i don't think i would ever want to try Samsung Gear VR.....
Not with an Note 7, anyway. You can't, actually. Oculus automatically detects that phone and will refuse to run.
I feel all right going in with my S6. Here is a phone that has been out since 2015. How many have melted/exploded? That's right (maybe 2? - also note that many brands of phone have been reported to explode, including iPhone).
In the article it notes that the washing machine is a different issue (rotational kinetic energy). I'll agree that this is not what Samsung needs right now; it doesn't look good for them.
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i don't think i would ever want to try Samsung Gear VR.....
Not with an Note 7, anyway. You can't, actually. Oculus automatically detects that phone and will refuse to run.
I feel all right going in with my S6. Here is a phone that has been out since 2015. How many have melted/exploded? That's right (maybe 2? - also note that many brands of phone have been reported to explode, including iPhone).
In the article it notes that the washing machine is a different issue (rotational kinetic energy). I'll agree that this is not what Samsung needs right now; it doesn't look good for them.
Lastly, Gear VR is made by Oculus, not Samsung. It happens to work with only Samsung phones, so it's easy to see why you made that connection. However, to be proper, there isn't any such thing as a "Samsung Gear VR": it's Oculus' product.
I should note that when I use my S6 with Gear VR, the phone does tend to overheat. I've taken to keeping a refrigerated gel pack handy when using Gear VR to cool the phone down as necessary. However, there is a big difference between overheating and exploding. Gear VR will also detect when the phone is out of temp and will pause the experience, stating that the phone needs to cool down.
Well, yes and no with the "gear VR" thing. Samsung devices are hardware, similar to like how HTC makes the Vive, but the Vive plays Oculus games too.
Samsung also has a standalone device that doesn't require a gear vr set, but just like the Vive - samsungs gear VR peripheral will work without the Oculus app store. There's a handy app that you can use to switch back and forth from autolaunching the Oculus service when you connect a device, but you can always just go to the particular service and freeze it so that the app store doesn't open.
Technically, most phones have the capability of running VR in some capacity, which is the total purpose of Cardboard. The VR videos I've produced allow for viewing even on a PC without a headset, though the headsets make it more immersive.
Lithium ion batteries are garbage. This is why those stupid hoverboards kept burning up and why they kept setting electric cars on fire for years before they got the cooling system right. The technology is outdated and not able to keep putting out the power required for these new devices. They can't put a cooling system in a phone because it would make it heavy and bulky. We keep using this crap because it is cheap, but eventually battery technology will have to change drastically. Other options do exist so maybe all these fires will push forward new investment in better safer batteries sooner.
Okay Mr. Goodenough Jr.; what's the newer, better alternative with a similar energy density that will allow something like a smartphone to realistically function?
I just can't wait to see your answer to this...
While I don't agree with his stance at all or his knee jerk reaction. I have been reading up on Carbon batteries and how effective they might be. So there is promise of progression in the future.
atm it looks like we will have a functioning warp drive before we have any of the thousands of new battery technologies which were supposed to come in a few months ever since the russians created graphene in 2004, ...
atm it looks like we will have a functioning warp drive before we have any of the thousands of new battery technologies which were supposed to come in a few months ever since the russians created graphene in 2004, ...
or just wait for them to produce a solution. as a side note I have a Note 4 and i STILL havent been able to start a fire with it, kinda pisses me off I am jelly
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
I was thinking about getting one of these phones prior to the launch because I had a defect with my iPhone 6+ which was the bending issue, I had it over a year with no problem then randomly it bent slightly and the touch screen wouldn't work, I thought that was a bad enough defect. Now I'm glad I didn't jump to this phone seeing how bad this defect is. I just want working phones again that don't have these insane issues.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box that Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
Honestly, I don't think it's as big a problem as is being made out to be. I think this is what Samsung thinks as well.
But they are going well beyond what is required in order to try to limit the damage to their brand name at this point. That's what I think the "fireproof box" really is - not that they think the phones really need that, just that they are trying to appear to be doing everything humanly possible to contain the situation and prevent it from flaring up worse (puns slightly intended there)
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box that Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
Honestly, I don't think it's as big a problem as is being made out to be. I think this is what Samsung thinks as well.
But they are going well beyond what is required in order to try to limit the damage to their brand name at this point. That's what I think the "fireproof box" really is - not that they think the phones really need that, just that they are trying to appear to be doing everything humanly possible to contain the situation and prevent it from flaring up worse (puns slightly intended there)
I mostly agree, but make no mistake... the danger is real.
It's a design flaw and a case of trying to do too much too soon. Samsung is doing the right thing and I applaud them for it.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
If 1 in 1000 phones is catching fire, that is way too many.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
If 1 in 1000 phones is catching fire, that is way too many.
I am glad you feel that way and its I suppose noble for you to have such a view, its not one that I share however how you and I feel about that has nothing to do with what I just said regarding 'fire proof boxes'.
Its very clear to be that its highly likely they are having these fire proof boxes explictly to placate to the masses and not based on anything other then PR.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
If 1 in 1000 phones is catching fire, that is way too many.
I am glad you feel that way and its I suppose noble for you to have such a view, its not one that I share however how you and I feel about that has nothing to do with what I just said regarding 'fire proof boxes'.
Its very clear to be that its highly likely they are having these fire proof boxes explictly to placate to the masses and not based on anything other then PR.
I think the fireproof boxes have much more to do with a little thing called "liability"
I don't think there was public pressure. Most people, including my wife, would rather have had kept their phones. It's a huge pain in the ass returning them and getting a comparable phone - which there actually isn't a phone made by a competitor to match it.
There was government and corporate pressure, but they wouldn't have shut it down if a significantly higher than average incident rate occurred. Samsung wouldn't have allowed themselves to be railroaded unless they knew it was an issue too.
Here is a decent article explaining why this phone was recalled, listed a couple other major phone battery recalls, and does a decent job explaining the most likely cause based on findings. More than 100 phones caught fire in less than a month. That's less than .01% of Note 7 phones sold, but it's massively more than other phones.
If there is a design fault that results in the phone exploding, then it doesn't matter if it was just 100 occurences, or 1000 occurences, it would be a persistent risk where the likelihood of it happening could only increase with time, maybe its a hassle, but consider yourself lucky, at least it didn't happen to you.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
If 1 in 1000 phones is catching fire, that is way too many.
They made what, 2M of them? And we have like... maybe 200 confirmed cases?
That's 1 in 10,000. I would call that getting into the region of significant, mostly because the severity of the failure. If it were just "the phone breaks" (or bends) and you needed to replace/return it, that would be one thing, and that number would probably be perfectly acceptable. But that isn't it, it's "phone catches on fire, and there is a chance that it could bring down an airplane or burn down your house in your sleep kill your family".
Would I buy a new Note? No, I wouldn't. But at the same time, if I already had one, I wouldn't feel the need to put it in a lead box and walk away from it slowly. I would continue to use it, although I would keep an eye on it until I could get it replaced at my own convenience.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
If 1 in 1000 phones is catching fire, that is way too many.
They made what, 2M of them? And we have like... maybe 200 confirmed cases?
That's 1 in 10,000. I would call that getting into the region of significant, mostly because the severity of the failure. If it were just "the phone breaks" (or bends) and you needed to replace/return it, that would be one thing, and that number would probably be perfectly acceptable. But that isn't it, it's "phone catches on fire, and there is a chance that it could bring down an airplane or burn down your house in your sleep kill your family".
Would I buy a new Note? No, I wouldn't. But at the same time, if I already had one, I wouldn't feel the need to put it in a lead box and walk away from it slowly. I would continue to use it, although I would keep an eye on it until I could get it replaced at my own convenience.
well 'special snowflake idology' aside for the moment.
isnt the whole 'fire proof boxes' NOT for the Note 7 but for other phones in which if one is concerned they can buy said fire proof box? people are so gullible.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
If 1 in 1000 phones is catching fire, that is way too many.
They made what, 2M of them? And we have like... maybe 200 confirmed cases?
That's 1 in 10,000. I would call that getting into the region of significant, mostly because the severity of the failure. If it were just "the phone breaks" (or bends) and you needed to replace/return it, that would be one thing, and that number would probably be perfectly acceptable. But that isn't it, it's "phone catches on fire, and there is a chance that it could bring down an airplane or burn down your house in your sleep kill your family".
Would I buy a new Note? No, I wouldn't. But at the same time, if I already had one, I wouldn't feel the need to put it in a lead box and walk away from it slowly. I would continue to use it, although I would keep an eye on it until I could get it replaced at my own convenience.
We can't know what the number could have been, because the product has been recalled and discontinued. If the problem wasn't real or if the problem was trivial and easily fixable I don't believe the solution would have been so radical.
They abandoned a whole production line. That's not something you decide lightly.
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
It doesn't matter what we think.
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
Did Samsung actually think that, or did they just capitulate to public pressure
Isn't that also part of the problem.
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
creating a 'fire proof' solution for a different generation of phone then the one that is having the issue very much sounds like capitulating to public pressure.
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
If 1 in 1000 phones is catching fire, that is way too many.
They made what, 2M of them? And we have like... maybe 200 confirmed cases?
That's 1 in 10,000. I would call that getting into the region of significant, mostly because the severity of the failure. If it were just "the phone breaks" (or bends) and you needed to replace/return it, that would be one thing, and that number would probably be perfectly acceptable. But that isn't it, it's "phone catches on fire, and there is a chance that it could bring down an airplane or burn down your house in your sleep kill your family".
Would I buy a new Note? No, I wouldn't. But at the same time, if I already had one, I wouldn't feel the need to put it in a lead box and walk away from it slowly. I would continue to use it, although I would keep an eye on it until I could get it replaced at my own convenience.
well 'special snowflake idology' aside for the moment.
isnt the whole 'fire proof boxes' NOT for the Note 7 but for other phones in which if one is concerned they can buy said fire proof box? people are so gullible.
..they created and sent out the fireproof boxes for free because Fedex and UPS wouldn't transport devices that were prone to catching fire, even when turned off.
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I feel all right going in with my S6. Here is a phone that has been out since 2015. How many have melted/exploded? That's right (maybe 2? - also note that many brands of phone have been reported to explode, including iPhone).
In the article it notes that the washing machine is a different issue (rotational kinetic energy). I'll agree that this is not what Samsung needs right now; it doesn't look good for them.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
Samsung also has a standalone device that doesn't require a gear vr set, but just like the Vive - samsungs gear VR peripheral will work without the Oculus app store. There's a handy app that you can use to switch back and forth from autolaunching the Oculus service when you connect a device, but you can always just go to the particular service and freeze it so that the app store doesn't open.
Technically, most phones have the capability of running VR in some capacity, which is the total purpose of Cardboard. The VR videos I've produced allow for viewing even on a PC without a headset, though the headsets make it more immersive.
The only good thing about all that was that it had sold abbysmaly anyway, recall or no recall..
http://wccftech.com/apple-iphone-7-explodes-sets-car-fire/
now, should i make a new thread saying that Apple has serious issues and has exploding phones and that your health is at risk by using it?
What does matter is that Samsung thinks the problem is serious enough to pull and discontinue the product.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
or just wait for them to produce a solution. as a side note I have a Note 4 and i STILL havent been able to start a fire with it, kinda pisses me off I am jelly
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
The fire proof box and return policy that @Torval mentions above is interesting and telling at the same time.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
But they are going well beyond what is required in order to try to limit the damage to their brand name at this point. That's what I think the "fireproof box" really is - not that they think the phones really need that, just that they are trying to appear to be doing everything humanly possible to contain the situation and prevent it from flaring up worse (puns slightly intended there)
If they felt their other phones had a good chance to catch fire enough to create a 'fire proof box' to protect consumers they would instead pull them....lol ''fire proof box'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
It's a design flaw and a case of trying to do too much too soon. Samsung is doing the right thing and I applaud them for it.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
Its very clear to be that its highly likely they are having these fire proof boxes explictly to placate to the masses and not based on anything other then PR.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
That's 1 in 10,000. I would call that getting into the region of significant, mostly because the severity of the failure. If it were just "the phone breaks" (or bends) and you needed to replace/return it, that would be one thing, and that number would probably be perfectly acceptable. But that isn't it, it's "phone catches on fire, and there is a chance that it could bring down an airplane or burn down your house in your sleep kill your family".
Would I buy a new Note? No, I wouldn't. But at the same time, if I already had one, I wouldn't feel the need to put it in a lead box and walk away from it slowly. I would continue to use it, although I would keep an eye on it until I could get it replaced at my own convenience.
isnt the whole 'fire proof boxes' NOT for the Note 7 but for other phones in which if one is concerned they can buy said fire proof box?
people are so gullible.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
They abandoned a whole production line. That's not something you decide lightly.
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee