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Does Star Citizen REALLY exist?
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You know what. Nevermind. Rerolling to another reality this one is ruined.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's important to get your facts straight.
As for SQ42 - CR is obsessive about showing this part of the game only when it's ready to be shown. More or less everything is riding on it being a true AAA quality game.
I'm personally estimating a "release version" late 2019. I would wait until 2030 if I had to.
The reason I'm estimating that date - is simply a gut response to the current stage of development and my 34 years of experience with the industry in general. After a while, you get pretty good at estimating how long things will take according to their level of ambition - and how much of delay they could handle in terms of the PR challenge.
Yes, they have ALL the promised modules released now. The next major patch is 3.0 - which will have the first versions of the most challenging-to-develop technology in it, which means the biggest hurdle will finally have been overcome.
3.0 will have: StarNetwork 1.0 (should alleviate most of the performance issues), Item 2.0, Planetary tech and Subsumption. That's pretty much all we've been waiting for.
So, if you were to be shown a SQ42 demo - and 3.0 actually comes out this year - what will your position be?
It's very well known that he wasn't the most popular dude at Origin - which isn't exactly rare when you're arguably the one with the most consistently successful titles released.
There's a youtube video out where Garriott and Spector both talk about CR and his style of leadership. You know, two people who would actually know what they're talking about - and they both criticise his perfectionism, but clearly acknowledge his talents.
That doesn't mean he's perfect - or that he's not arrogant or a control freak. It's not exactly a rare thing with people who're passionate or dedicated to their craft. One person he reminds me of, a lot, would be James Cameron - who's known for exactly the same things.
Why are you talking about what DS said about the budget needed? Do we have any reason to believe he knows what he's talking about. I love how you discredit every good thing about CR because your friends have told you bad things about him - but for whatever reason, DS gets a pass here? That's amusing.
In the end, all I can do is look at the games with his name on it - and I happen to be a HUGE fan of Wing Commander, Privateer, Freelancer and Starlancer. All of which he played significant parts on - issues during development or not. The issues with Freelancer and Microsoft might very well be CR aiming too high - but maybe, just maybe - it would have been a great game if he'd had the support he was hoping for? The game that was released was fantastic - and I hope you understand that CR is quite responsible for A LOT of what's good about that game, even if he left production at some point.
But that's not really my point at all, my point is that you're obsessed with him. You're looking at everything Star Citizen from that single narrow perspective of one person you don't personally know. You're completely ignoring all the things he's accomplished. EVERYTHING he's ever done, you've dismissed and downplayed as meaningless trivia - because he's such a terrible manager.
Almost every single post from you - and apparently you never stop around here - is about CR and how terrible he is.
This despite the fact that the game is obviously progressing - and things are moving forward. This despite how many times the CIG team has expressed how much they love the project and the job - over and over and over - and we're not talking PR stunts, because they haven't been in control of all the interviews.
I don't think you're being objective in the least, and I think you're in for quite a challenge when it comes to explaining why the game is actually coming out.
*I* can acknowledge that CR isn't perfect. He's clearly a flawed manager when it comes to predicting how long things will take - and he's obviously not good at relinquishing control. He's probably too ambitious for his own good, but then again - you sort of have to be if you want to really break new ground.
Can YOU acknowledge the good parts about him? What would they be?
Vendetta Online has a non-instanced, Newtonian twitch combat galaxy with a thriving player economy.
I just closed a player to player trade that more than doubled my in-game liquid capital, and I've been playing for 13 years. Feeling bullish. When I say "liquid capital" I don't mean USD, either. I earned it through finding a niche to compete in, gameplay-wise.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
Which it won't
Have fun
a fool and their cash are parted..
the only excuse they have, and a very bad one that is, is that they tried to dream the world á la Molyneux, yet reality hit them in the face and still try to save face.
One should always read ones own posts. It can only reaffirm the great contribution you make to this online community, your wit and wisdom.
And SQ 42 early 2015?
I believe things when I see enough evidence
All I see now is a uncompetent guy making up fake release dates and little content to show
When I see 3.0 in the state as was promised being released in 2017 then yes, the game might have a slight chance of releasing before 2020
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
SQ42 release has been delayed, yes.
No one here is disputing delays. Again, delays are absolutely common with games like this.
If you think people who're making delayed games are incompetent because they can't accurately predict the unpredictable - then I'm afraid the incompetence is closer to you than you think.
Concrete results speak more than empty PR promises and talk.
That's not what the word means at all, but if you insist on not using words correctly - I won't get in your way
Have fun
because its not a bit suspicious at this point to anyone how this game has been in fuckin beta for like decades or so with literally nothing they can actually show up AND they still have the nerves to ask for more cash?
your right, my bad. Its just an overpriced alpha, with the actual promised game not existing. Hence, vaporware.
"In the computer industry, vaporware or vapourware is a product, typically computer hardware or software, that is announced to the general public but is never actually manufactured nor officially cancelled"
I stand corrected
It's not suspicious to people who actually know the reasons for the delays and understand them, no.
dont get me wrong, I have no problems with people spending their money the way they want. But im still veery much sceptical concerning this
I know, my bad .
The problem here, as I see it, is that you're trying to make your personal scepticism into something we should all be sharing, based on a position that's not informed.
In my opinion, if you want to project your concerns unto others - you really, really need to do your research and at least TRY to understand why things happen, instead of merely assuming the worst.
Not that what you're doing is unusual. That's pretty much what most of the vocal naysayers have been doing for a few years now.
I think SC combined elements that there was a demand for that makes peeps who were not interested into playing a space sim, pick one interest on SC, it is the way they merged this several play styles on the current alpha that already makes it provide one kinda unique play from what you find around on the MMO genre.
As for SC get outdated I think it's not hard to look at the current standing of the MMO genre, new MMO's coming out these days are already looking and even playing dated, what creates that big drain on MMO players that are simply tired of more of the same and their lack of ambition, hence why my statement that overall they need to catch up to SC before SC gets left behind (and this is under the assumption SC will not progress any further)
allright, point taken
The one thing that I learned about this election I can say without pissing off Trump Fans or Hillary Fans that will remain in the fact books for analytical purposes in our ongoing election history is that Hillary won the popular vote by having the majority of support coming from the major population centers. In short, over 50% of the vote came from 12% of the land people live in the United States in support of Hillary. Trump had an extreme level of coverage that wasn't just in the population centers, but in the rural communities that really combined and were extremely angry to the point they took an already harsh life and super busy schedule that they have and went out to vote. Trump had over 95% coverage across the U.S during the elections and that was impressive.
The impressive aspect that for the last 40 years, the central focus in political issues and agendas at the state level and federal level has been to expand the population centers as far and wide as possible with the majority of funding in each state going to the population centers themselves.
This caused a lot of anger on people who live in the Rural Communities, who tend to be farmers and factory workers who are truly responsible for the kind of life we live in the population centers. They do the grunt work and without their existence we would have no food, clothing, or anything transported to these population centers. I live in a population center myself, but I have studied business, economics, and political sciences to know and feel for these people, and I believe that enough was enough.
Somehow, somewhere...
The needs of these people have to be met.
We can't all live in population centers, but we can't make our majority focus only about population centers either.
I also question the fact that the U.S produces many scholars in many academic disciplines, and I am ashamed as an American Citizen that out of 320 million people in our population, the two candidates that ultimately became party leaders to run for the white house were these two! I feel that we, as a people failed in that one and could have done a better job.
This thread deals with Star Citizen, and I posted about it before...
I feel the project itself upon completion might provide something decent, and I said before I did not want to play the game. I wonder if the project is better than the X3 series of games. There is also Eve Online as far as space games go. I am extremely on the fence about it...
I feel its a discrimination against it due to the fact I feel the Genre overall hasn't been doing well and in the extreme saturation that exists, that developers are trying to draw out any fresh idea that has not been taken yet in an attempt to cash in on what little this genre has left unless change comes in some radical form.
We need something new and fresh,
but I am not willing to invest in it unless there is some merit in it.
I've been wrong far too many times in trying out a new game and not liking it.
Hopefully this post won't end in an infraction down my throat.
Its Inauguration Day, and I just wonder how the next four years are going to be like...