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  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    Yeah, I agree. I think they should have let Steven Sharif approve it first.
    Its not about approval. It is about correct information. The pledges were still apart of the referral program and they could have told him that. Problem would be solved. 
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    Not sure how the world works exactly. But I took a PR course like 15 years ago and I remember there was something about never stating someone lied but instead say they are wrong. It does the same thing without offending anyone, even when you are absolutely sure you are right. That lesson has helped me a lot over the years. Although I know how you humans get all emotional sometimes, so I can't really judge your kind. 
    [Deleted User]
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    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Nyctelios said:
    Nyctelios said:
    I literally just finished watching John Wick 2 and thought "I guess I'll check mmorpg but I'm sure nothing much happened..."


    So, what happened to our pizza?
    Sorry, I just threw it away when I remembered none of you are Alison Brie :P 
    But I am Alison Brie!!
    [Deleted User]
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    Not sure how the world works exactly. But I took a PR course like 15 years ago and I remember there was something about never stating someone lied but instead say they are wrong. It does the same thing without offending anyone, even when you are absolutely sure you are right. That lesson has helped me a lot over the years. Although I know how you humans get all emotional sometimes, so I can't really judge your kind. 
    Are you a reptile?
  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    The big problem with KS not stepping in more and clarifying their actions. It leaves Intrepid plenty of leverage to frame this anyway they want as long as they follow through on the pledge thing. 

    It is no longer in KS's hands unless they retroactively take action. Which is unlikely as the ultimate goal has been accomplished here.

    To me it seems likely all parties just move on from it. As it's just a loss to all involved to take it any further.  
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  • skullhead51skullhead51 Member UncommonPosts: 21
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    Official Statement:

    Kickstarter has stated that one time financial rewards are acceptable for package pledges on Kickstarter. This was also a part in the PCGamer article,

    I reached out to Kickstarter to see what their policy is on the matter. "Last year we began allowing financial incentives for referrals," they responded. "But we do not allow revenue or profit sharing, which this program essentially offers through its payouts over time."

    As such, Kickstarter asked us to change the language on our referral program. 


    The PCGamer was incorrect however in stating;

    In response to PC Gamer's inquiry, Kickstarter told me they've informed Intrepid Studios, which has removed Kickstarter pledges from its referral program.

    This is an outright lie, and we have sent a request for a retraction from PCGamer. MassivelyOP has now today issued an article based on the PCGamer reporting.


    Pledges from Kickstarter will have the referral reward associated with it, that reflects it's policy of a "financial incentive for referrals" and remains in accordance with their policies and procedures at Kickstarter.

    Intrepid Studios is in close communications with Kickstarter, as we are now their 10th highest funded Video Game project ever.


    ...... (snip)

    ...... (snip)

    Something doesn't add up.
    Slapshot1188[Deleted User]
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
    Good luck getting your money back.  Oops. I mean, yeah. Good luck getting a statement from them.
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    Really? You can't figure it out? It's the same old "creative accounting" game that is played daily by any group that gets funding from different sources with said funding having strings attached to it about how a particular pot of money from the many pots is going to be used.

    All that Intrepid had to do to become compliant with KS rules was to say that the KS funds would be used for game development and any future payouts when the game launches would be paid from "general funds" at that point in the future.

    I'm sure that's the loophole that is allowing both KS and Intrepid to feel like they can live with it.
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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    Not sure how the world works exactly. But I took a PR course like 15 years ago and I remember there was something about never stating someone lied but instead say they are wrong. It does the same thing without offending anyone, even when you are absolutely sure you are right. That lesson has helped me a lot over the years. Although I know how you humans get all emotional sometimes, so I can't really judge your kind. 
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Iselin said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    Really? You can't figure it out? It's the same old "creative accounting" game that is played daily by any group that gets funding from different sources with said funding having strings attached to it about how a particular pot of money from the many pots is going to be used.

    All that Intrepid had to do to become compliant with KS rules was to say that the KS funds would be used for game development and any future payouts when the game launches would be paid from "general funds" at that point in the future.

    I'm sure that's the loophole that is allowing both KS and Intrepid to feel like they can live with it.
    You seem to be really good at finding all of the loopholes. Keep it up!
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    Not sure how the world works exactly. But I took a PR course like 15 years ago and I remember there was something about never stating someone lied but instead say they are wrong. It does the same thing without offending anyone, even when you are absolutely sure you are right. That lesson has helped me a lot over the years. Although I know how you humans get all emotional sometimes, so I can't really judge your kind. 
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    What is your spirit animal?
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
    Good luck getting your money back.  Oops. I mean, yeah. Good luck getting a statement from them.
    Iselin said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    Really? You can't figure it out? It's the same old "creative accounting" game that is played daily by any group that gets funding from different sources with said funding having strings attached to it about how a particular pot of money from the many pots is going to be used.

    All that Intrepid had to do to become compliant with KS rules was to say that the KS funds would be used for game development and any future payouts when the game launches would be paid from "general funds" at that point in the future.

    I'm sure that's the loophole that is allowing both KS and Intrepid to feel like they can live with it.
    You seem to be really good at finding all of the loopholes. Keep it up!
    Here comes that time of day where Prescience just posts with snarky one sentence comments instead of real responses. >.>
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    What is your spirit animal?
    Don't have any. I believe that's exclusive to humans. 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    What is your spirit animal?
    Don't have any. I believe that's exclusive to humans. 
    Okay... What do you identify as?
  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    What is your spirit animal?
    Don't have any. I believe that's exclusive to humans. 
    Okay... What do you identify as?
    Yo, can you guys flirt in a PM please?
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    What is your spirit animal?
    Don't have any. I believe that's exclusive to humans. 
    Okay... What do you identify as?
    I respond to the name Alison Brie. 
    [Deleted User]
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,649
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
    We actually do have a statement from them.  I think it's actually from their Director of Communications.  It's the quote above.  I have not seen Intrepid dispute it's validity. Ball is in Intrepid's court because the quote very specifically states that they said certain things.

    it appears someone is lying... could be Intrepid to us, could be Intrepid to Kickstarter, could be Kickstarter. At this time it doesn't APPEAR to be the author (who nobody apologized to yet... amazing)

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  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    What is your spirit animal?
    Don't have any. I believe that's exclusive to humans. 
    Okay... What do you identify as?
    I respond to the name Alison Brie. 
    But she has emotions...
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Are you a reptile?
    Reptiles have emotions. 
    What is your spirit animal?
    Don't have any. I believe that's exclusive to humans. 
    Okay... What do you identify as?
    I respond to the name Alison Brie. 
    But she has emotions...
    How do you know for sure? 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    This is the best MMO I've ever played.
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  • PonziniPonzini Member UncommonPosts: 534
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
    We actually do have a statement from them.  I think it's actually from their Director of Communications.  It's the quote above.  I have not seen Intrepid dispute it's validity. Ball is in Intrepid's court because the quote very specifically states that they said certain things.

    it appears someone is lying... could be Intrepid to us, could be Intrepid to Kickstarter, could be Kickstarter. At this time it doesn't APPEAR to be the author (who nobody apologized to yet... amazing)

    Who owes him an apology? He posted wrong information. If he had checked with Intrepid he would have got corrected. He got secondhand info from kickstarter who either misunderstood or was told a lie/wrong info. Either way the author should have got both sides of a story before coming out with it. Is that not standard practice to reach out for comments?
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Nyctelios said:
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
    That's the funny bit. "We are not big of a deal" yet you had to "call Steve here" to safeguard this holy project.

    "We are not big of a deal" yet people keep pasting our threads on Discord saying "STEVEN, help us! The meanies are talking about you!!!"

    "We are not big of a deal" yet we are quoted by both parties in regards of this situation (instead of them solving it elsewhere, by their official channels).

    Yes, we are not big of a deal, but why the fuzz is here then? If I hear noises I say let's party.
    More importantly, you have Alison Brie on your thread. 
    [Deleted User]MadFrenchie
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    edited June 2017
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
    We actually do have a statement from them.  I think it's actually from their Director of Communications.  It's the quote above.  I have not seen Intrepid dispute it's validity. Ball is in Intrepid's court because the quote very specifically states that they said certain things.

    it appears someone is lying... could be Intrepid to us, could be Intrepid to Kickstarter, could be Kickstarter. At this time it doesn't APPEAR to be the author (who nobody apologized to yet... amazing)

    Who owes him an apology? He posted wrong information. If he had checked with Intrepid he would have got corrected. He got secondhand info from kickstarter who either misunderstood or was told a lie/wrong info. Either way the author should have got both sides of a story before coming out with it. Is that not standard practice to reach out for comments?
    David Gallagher the director of communications that ratified everything Steven Messner originally wrote is "second hand info"?

    Maybe Steven Sharif shouldn't have told Kickstarter they were complying with the removal of pledges from the referral system as David Gallagher stated. 

     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

     “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program," - David Gallagher, Kickstarter Director of Communications.

  • PresciencePrescience Member UncommonPosts: 255
    Ponzini said:
    Ponzini said:
    Is Kickstarter lying about Intrepid telling them they would remove Kickstarter Pledges from the referral system? Or do we just not care because we benefit from it? Either by getting cash (me) or by getting more money for their new favorite project?

    Is it just ignored because Steven came and said they were absolutely transparent?
    If that is true then Kickstarter is lying... and that's an even bigger story.
    Or maybe no one lied. Maybe there was miscommunication. Either way kickstarter said it was acceptable to them. It's their website. So all should be good now. 

    Really though the author should have checked with Intrepid before posting the story. Would have saved a lot of headaches.
    “[Intrepid Studios] told us that Kickstarter pledges would be removed from the program, making it entirely separate from the Kickstarter project"

    That either happened or it didn't. Someone appears to be lying. Its a big story if it's Intrepid. It's a bigger one if it's Kickstarter.
    LOL You guys just want it to be a big story. We are probably the only ones talking about this. 10 dudes in a forum. 

    Only Kickstarter can confirm this. Assuming their communication was through email and not phone. I am pretty sure this whole thing is over though. Good luck getting a statement from them on this.
    It seems like a big deal on reddit right now. Maybe you need to send Steven to make a response there too?
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