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Bungie to Remove Gauntlet that Resembles Hate Group Symbol - Destiny 2 - MMORPG.com

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  • RockardRockard Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Xarko said:
    Poor Tyrone(a black guy and the president of Kekistan) must be REEEEing like a mad man seeing people keep calling his national flag a symbol of hate and white supremacy.
    First you go and invade Poland and then you wonder why.
    Shame on you,Kekistan.

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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited September 2017
    Oh this should break some sheeple hearts. Damn you President Tyrone, you filthy white supremacist. 


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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    edited September 2017
    Rhoklaw said:
    Torval said:
    Rhoklaw said:
    I love how you can get something removed from a game because it's offensive, but our lovely backwards media will still plaster videos of people burning the American Flag calling it Freedom of Speech. I know this websites rules, but if that doesn't seem extremely ironic, I don't know what does.

    Burning the flag and ranting against the government is a right and freedom of speech we bestow on citizens. Hate and oppression are not because we've also decided that all people have the unalienable right to pursue life equally as peers without regard to their ethnic or racial origins.

    Burning the flag doesn't violate that. Burning the flag show hate, discontent, or frustration and anger at the government which is totally acceptable. We've built into our very government nature the right to hate it to the point we replace it if it's gone bad.

    But hating others just for their DNA composition does violate all of that. You can have freedom of speech and still not have freedom to oppress and intimidate others with that speech. That freedom to speak also doesn't imply freedom from consequences of those words.

    In short, they're not equivalent just as standing against hateful racists doesn't make one a racist themselves.
    So, you don't see the irony in your statement? People burning a flag of the country that gives them the right to burn a flag? That is by definition... true irony. If you are protesting a government, you do so by voting. You don't burn 200 years of history because your unhappy now. That is called irrational behavior.
    I think it's a bit deeper than that.

    Burning the flag (for those who choose this way of protest) is about showing how unhappy they are with some Government decision/law, action, etc.

    The government allows this because it's part of the first amendment, and it's part of our ability to express ourselves, show our distaste, without getting punished. This is a good thing. And a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, (at least in theory) should always want this.

    So all of us can express our distaste for some government action yet sill love that our government recognizes our ability to do so. and love our country. It's essentially a very strong show of distaste for very particular actions. That's why it's not really ironic.

    What would be more ironic is if someone burned the flag completely decrying this country and everything the government does. This is not necessarily the case "in every case".


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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited September 2017
    Duplicate post. Sorry
  • SpeakzzzSpeakzzz Member UncommonPosts: 29
    So if an extremist islamic group starts using the american flag as a symbol do we stop flying the flag anywhere? I am offended by statues and building and clothes. We should all sleep on the streets naked and be farmers!
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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    edited September 2017
    Rockard said:

    White lives matter is racist,as is black lives matter,as in both those phrases the separative quality between people is their skin colour.
    Human lives matter,is not racist.
    The racist behaviour of others is not an excuse for one to behave like a racist.
    Now I'm not an expert on matters of sociology,but the way I see it and as far as the American case is concerned,racism is a far deeper problem than what many seem to understand,because it, ironically,transcends race and seems to be a quality found throughout the various ethnic groups in the US.
    Another bs narrative.. this is amazing. You do realize that somebody saying "Black Lives Matters" does not mean OTHER LIVES dont matter.. Its saying "Black Lives Matter, stop killing us." That's what its saying. Its not racist to say Black Lives Matter. Please tell me what is racist about that..

    If your home was on fire.. would you like the firemen to check on ALL THE HOMES before they got to yours? I mean All HOMES MATTER right? So in your time of need, would you be wrong for saying "HEY MY HOME MATTERS HELP ME! I'M GOING TO DIE!" No you would not.

    That does not mean you don't care about the other homes, but your home is the home on fire. Its urgent. 

    "White Lives Matter" is racist because its literally trying to take power out of the BLM movement by using its own term against them. White people are not being killed at a alarming rate in this country..they are not dealing with a major injustice because of their skin color...they aren't dealing with anything the average American isnt.

    The people who shout "White Lives Matter" are panicking because of the Dispossession of White people in general. They feel like they are losing something that used to be theirs. The Country. 

    BLM is nothing close to saying White Lives Matter, stop trying to make them the same. One is a cry from a race of people because of current injustices done to them, the other is not.

    White Lives Matter is hate. Those racist at those rallies (BTW the Virginia one wasnt the first) are saying "WLM, YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US"  that sounds like the fear of being dispossessed to me.

    Again, if your home was on fire, how would you feel if the fire dept said hey ALL HOMES MATTER we gotta check the other homes first. Meanwhile your house is the only one engulfed in flames. 



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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    That's close AF but honestly I wasn't aware of this "hate group". It was wise of them to modify it/or remove it.

    People who typically do the "libertard" "lib cuck" thing are bigots who do the "I'm trolling" thing, but they can't/won't do it in their day to day nor would take the deserved ass whooping for it without crying foul.

    So if it's a racist troll meme, it's still f#%& anybody who uses it promotes it or is sympathetic to it.
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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    Rockard said:
    klash2def said:
    @RockHard People who recognize and see a correlation between KEK and KKK are not retards. Bad choice of words for one, furthermore maybe its you that doesn't see what's really happening. Maybe you should log off and go outside for a minute or two.  

    EDIT: it has nothing to do with video games..
    From what I see,I get out a lot more than you do.
    The whole point of this flag was to troll people like you.
    And it's working.
    Kek.
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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited September 2017
    klash2def said:
    Rockard said:

    White lives matter is racist,as is black lives matter,as in both those phrases the separative quality between people is their skin colour.
    Human lives matter,is not racist.
    The racist behaviour of others is not an excuse for one to behave like a racist.
    Now I'm not an expert on matters of sociology,but the way I see it and as far as the American case is concerned,racism is a far deeper problem than what many seem to understand,because it, ironically,transcends race and seems to be a quality found throughout the various ethnic groups in the US.





    Another bs narrative.. this is amazing. You do realize that somebody saying "Black Lives Matters" does not mean OTHER LIVES dont matter.. Its saying "Black Lives Matter, stop killing us." That's what its saying. Its not racist to say Black Lives Matter. Please tell me what is racist about that..

    If your home was on fire.. would you like the firemen to check on ALL THE HOMES before they got to yours? I mean All HOMES MATTER right? So in your time of need, would you be wrong for saying "HEY MY HOME MATTERS HELP ME! I'M GOING TO DIE!" No you would not.

    That does not mean you don't care about the other homes, but your home is the home on fire. Its urgent. 

    "White Lives Matter" is racist because its literally trying to take power out of the BLM movement by using its own term against them. White people are not being killed at a alarming rate in this country..they are not dealing with a major injustice because of their skin color...they aren't dealing with anything the average American isnt.

    The people who shout "White Lives Matter" are panicking because of the Dispossession of White people in general. They feel like they are losing something that used to be theirs. The Country. 

    BLM is nothing close to saying White Lives Matter, stop trying to make them the same. One is a cry from a race of people because of current injustices done to them, the other is not.

    White Lives Matter is hate. Those racist at those rallies (BTW the Virginia one wasnt the first) are saying "WLM, YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US"  that sounds like the fear of being dispossessed to me.

    Again, if your home was on fire, how would you feel if the fire dept said hey ALL HOMES MATTER we gotta check the other homes first. Meanwhile your house is the only one engulfed in flames. 



     BLM is a hate group and propaganda machine. Look up for yourself where they get their financial backing. 

    Hint.... theyre white elitists.


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  • ForgrimmForgrimm Member EpicPosts: 3,069
    This thread turned out as expected.
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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    Speakzzz said:
    So if an extremist islamic group starts using the american flag as a symbol do we stop flying the flag anywhere? I am offended by statues and building and clothes. We should all sleep on the streets naked and be farmers!
    That's a little silly.

    The American flag already has a deep, iconic meaning to this country.

    If in 100+ years (or whatever) that meaning became synonymous with something very negative then "yeah" it wouldn't be used.

    And what would most likely happen is that it would be replaced with some other sort of iconography.

    I'm not really one for tearing down statues and the like because at one time they had meaning to the people of their respective communities. However, as we grow as a society, what should happen (in my opinion) is that they are labeled exactly for what they are and used as teaching tools.

    Getting rid of everything negative is hiding from our history, both good and bad, and we should be aware of "why" these things were positive and why they are negative.
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  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    klash2def said:
    Rockard said:

    White lives matter is racist,as is black lives matter,as in both those phrases the separative quality between people is their skin colour.
    Human lives matter,is not racist.
    The racist behaviour of others is not an excuse for one to behave like a racist.
    Now I'm not an expert on matters of sociology,but the way I see it and as far as the American case is concerned,racism is a far deeper problem than what many seem to understand,because it, ironically,transcends race and seems to be a quality found throughout the various ethnic groups in the US.
    Another bs narrative.. this is amazing. You do realize that somebody saying "Black Lives Matters" does not mean OTHER LIVES dont matter.. Its saying "Black Lives Matter, stop killing us." That's what its saying. Its not racist to say Black Lives Matter. Please tell me what is racist about that..

    If your home was on fire.. would you like the firemen to check on ALL THE HOMES before they got to yours? I mean All HOMES MATTER right? So in your time of need, would you be wrong for saying "HEY MY HOME MATTERS HELP ME! I'M GOING TO DIE!" No you would not.

    That does not mean you don't care about the other homes, but your home is the home on fire. Its urgent. 

    "White Lives Matter" is racist because its literally trying to take power out of the BLM movement by using its own term against them. White people are not being killed at a alarming rate in this country..they are not dealing with a major injustice because of their skin color...they aren't dealing with anything the average American isnt.

    The people who shout "White Lives Matter" are panicking because of the Dispossession of White people in general. They feel like they are losing something that used to be theirs. The Country. 

    BLM is nothing close to saying White Lives Matter, stop trying to make them the same. One is a cry from a race of people because of current injustices done to them, the other is not.

    White Lives Matter is hate. Those racist at those rallies (BTW the Virginia one wasnt the first) are saying "WLM, YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US"  that sounds like the fear of being dispossessed to me.

    Again, if your home was on fire, how would you feel if the fire dept said hey ALL HOMES MATTER we gotta check the other homes first. Meanwhile your house is the only one engulfed in flames. 




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  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 766
    SBFord said:
    Leiloni said:

    It wasn't a pep rally. They were originally protesting against the removal of a statue and nobody would have paid any attention to them had Antifa not showed up and made a thing of it as they are wont to do. 
    Bull shit. Any time people run around proudly waving the Nazi flag and chanting about white supremacy while spewing facist rhetoric, reasonable thinking caring Americans (and others in the world) take note and object. Please don't "whitewash" what that "rally" was. 
    what about when  another group runs around smashing windows, looting stores, and attacking people based on their skin color all the while shouting how their lives matter while simultaneously calling for the genocide of police?


    what about the Fascist rhetoric of the Anti-fascists running around in black hoodies and masks clubbing those who simply disagree with their views? 

    are these the the people you think as  "reasonable thinking caring Americans?" because they are the ones that showed up in large numbers in Charlotte to fight the alt right. . . 


    Saying the Far Right is evil because of their words WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY exhorting the Far Left as brave freedom fighters standing up for justice and freedom when their viewpoints are just as extreme is straight hypocrisy. . .


    ALL these extremists are equally evil.


    P.S. i guess politic is allowed in this thread.

    P.P.S. unless this was a honey pot to find people that dont share the political views of the site's owners in order to kick em off the boards. . .in which case good job you got me.


    P.P.P.S. I remember when video game forums were places to argue about video games. . .I miss those times.
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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    klash2def said:
    Rockard said:

    White lives matter is racist,as is black lives matter,as in both those phrases the separative quality between people is their skin colour.
    Human lives matter,is not racist.
    The racist behaviour of others is not an excuse for one to behave like a racist.
    Now I'm not an expert on matters of sociology,but the way I see it and as far as the American case is concerned,racism is a far deeper problem than what many seem to understand,because it, ironically,transcends race and seems to be a quality found throughout the various ethnic groups in the US.





    Another bs narrative.. this is amazing. You do realize that somebody saying "Black Lives Matters" does not mean OTHER LIVES dont matter.. Its saying "Black Lives Matter, stop killing us." That's what its saying. Its not racist to say Black Lives Matter. Please tell me what is racist about that..

    If your home was on fire.. would you like the firemen to check on ALL THE HOMES before they got to yours? I mean All HOMES MATTER right? So in your time of need, would you be wrong for saying "HEY MY HOME MATTERS HELP ME! I'M GOING TO DIE!" No you would not.

    That does not mean you don't care about the other homes, but your home is the home on fire. Its urgent. 

    "White Lives Matter" is racist because its literally trying to take power out of the BLM movement by using its own term against them. White people are not being killed at a alarming rate in this country..they are not dealing with a major injustice because of their skin color...they aren't dealing with anything the average American isnt.

    The people who shout "White Lives Matter" are panicking because of the Dispossession of White people in general. They feel like they are losing something that used to be theirs. The Country. 

    BLM is nothing close to saying White Lives Matter, stop trying to make them the same. One is a cry from a race of people because of current injustices done to them, the other is not.

    White Lives Matter is hate. Those racist at those rallies (BTW the Virginia one wasnt the first) are saying "WLM, YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US"  that sounds like the fear of being dispossessed to me.

    Again, if your home was on fire, how would you feel if the fire dept said hey ALL HOMES MATTER we gotta check the other homes first. Meanwhile your house is the only one engulfed in flames. 



     BLM is a hate group and propaganda machine. Look up for yourself where they get their financial backing. 

    Hint.... theyre white elitists.


    Stop believing everything you read on the internet.. You actually believe that bullshit because you WANT to believe it. Speaks volumes about you.

    .. another attempt at trying to dismantle a movement started because of injustice. 

    So is it just not possible at all that maybe we African Americans have some money in our pocket and just maybe funded BLM movement? Or no.. there is no way there are rich black people right? The money HAD to come from white elitist.. SMH..

    See this is the reason why BLM is important. Not just to my people, but to the Nation. Oh what? You thought only Black people subscribe to BLM?

    You want to believe BLM has something to do with White Nationalist so bad.. why? 
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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    edited September 2017
    klash2def said:
    klash2def said:
    Rockard said:

    White lives matter is racist,as is black lives matter,as in both those phrases the separative quality between people is their skin colour.
    Human lives matter,is not racist.
    The racist behaviour of others is not an excuse for one to behave like a racist.
    Now I'm not an expert on matters of sociology,but the way I see it and as far as the American case is concerned,racism is a far deeper problem than what many seem to understand,because it, ironically,transcends race and seems to be a quality found throughout the various ethnic groups in the US.





    Another bs narrative.. this is amazing. You do realize that somebody saying "Black Lives Matters" does not mean OTHER LIVES dont matter.. Its saying "Black Lives Matter, stop killing us." That's what its saying. Its not racist to say Black Lives Matter. Please tell me what is racist about that..

    If your home was on fire.. would you like the firemen to check on ALL THE HOMES before they got to yours? I mean All HOMES MATTER right? So in your time of need, would you be wrong for saying "HEY MY HOME MATTERS HELP ME! I'M GOING TO DIE!" No you would not.

    That does not mean you don't care about the other homes, but your home is the home on fire. Its urgent. 

    "White Lives Matter" is racist because its literally trying to take power out of the BLM movement by using its own term against them. White people are not being killed at a alarming rate in this country..they are not dealing with a major injustice because of their skin color...they aren't dealing with anything the average American isnt.

    The people who shout "White Lives Matter" are panicking because of the Dispossession of White people in general. They feel like they are losing something that used to be theirs. The Country. 

    BLM is nothing close to saying White Lives Matter, stop trying to make them the same. One is a cry from a race of people because of current injustices done to them, the other is not.

    White Lives Matter is hate. Those racist at those rallies (BTW the Virginia one wasnt the first) are saying "WLM, YOU WILL NOT REPLACE US"  that sounds like the fear of being dispossessed to me.

    Again, if your home was on fire, how would you feel if the fire dept said hey ALL HOMES MATTER we gotta check the other homes first. Meanwhile your house is the only one engulfed in flames. 



     BLM is a hate group and propaganda machine. Look up for yourself where they get their financial backing. 

    Hint.... theyre white elitists.


    Stop believing everything you read on the internet.. You actually believe that bullshit because you WANT to believe it. Speaks volumes about you.

    .. another attempt at trying to dismantle a movement started because of injustice. 

    So is it just not possible at all that maybe we African Americans have some money in our pocket and just maybe funded BLM movement? Or no.. there is no way there are rich black people right? The money HAD to come from white elitist.. SMH..

    See this is the reason why BLM is important. Not just to my people, but to the Nation. Oh what? You thought only Black people subscribe to BLM?

    You want to believe BLM has something to do with White Nationalist so bad.. why? 
     Come back and talk to me when you can think for yourself. Dont believe what I say? Look it up for yourself. The internet is the greatest spurce of imformation in history, i suggest you try it some time.

    Subject chamge just to see where your mind really is. Choose true or false for the following.

     Lybia had one of the highest standards of living im the entire middle east before NATO bombed them.T or F

    Women in Lybia had more rights than amy other Muslim nation in tue middle east. T or F

    Bonus points if you can tell me the first piece of infrastructure that went up after Lybia fell and who owns it.

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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    edited September 2017
    @sayuu stop associating BLM with people who want to kill police. That's bullshit and you know it is.. again as I keep saying people will do anything to dismantle BLM because its a group of minorities actually fighting for themselves the right way. 

    People looting, attacking police, has nothing to do with BLM. Its stupid people who are taking advantage of a situation for their own gain. There are police officers that fully support the BLM movement. Stop this narrative of BLM vs Police.

    Again people are trying to dismantle a movement by spreading lies and false information about it.. oldest trick in the book but apparently it still works.. 

    EDIT: They are not asking for the death of police, they are asking for Police Reform. 2 Diff things. Since so many were losing their life to Police Brutality and the only answer Police would give afterwards is "I was scared." 
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  • XxxusernametakenxxxXxxusernametakenxxx Member UncommonPosts: 127
    So will Bungie remove masks? That is the symbol of the Alt left terrorists hate groups antifaci?
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  • AeanderAeander Member LegendaryPosts: 8,061
    klash2def said:


    Your train of thought too about how "If you ignore bad things it goes away" is a problem. To actually get rid of issues like Hate you must face it head on, not ignore it and act like it does not exist. People who act like its not real are part of the problem. 


    No, mate. No. Hate groups become passe when they are ignored. That is reality. That is how you deal with bigotry. You push it aside and let it become irrelevant, as all bad ideas eventually become.

    To this, you might say "oh, but the Civil Rights movement was a thing and it was important." Yes, yet it was. But here's the thing. The Civil Rights movement effectively mirrored our situation today through its two most prominent (and polar opposite) leaders - Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm X. Guess which one of these was actually successful and correct? Hint - we now name every other school and street after the guy.

    Martin Luther King was successful entirely because his objective was to gain equal coexistence for oppressed minorities. He wasn't a firebrand or a radical like his counterpart. His ideas won out in the end entirely because they sought to establish a new normal, which the general public eventually saw as being rightfully normal. Yes, you need to make a peaceful stand to achieve that legal equality, but once that legal equality has been achieved, the objective shifts and society must re-normalize. World War II and the civil rights movement established the obvious - that Nazism is bad. We then ostracized these groups to the fringes of our society where they belong.

    Now, we've done the opposite. We've decided to point fingers at an irrelevant, worthless group of human beings and say "hey, look at how shit these people are." Whether they deserve this or not (which they obviously do) is irrelevant. What is relevant is that a spotlight has been shone onto these people. A reminder has been shoved into the modern discourse that bigotry is a thing. And after roughly half a decade or so of this spotlight being shown, with a corresponding rise in Malcolm X-like "anti-white" ideology, we now have a rise in the very far-right hate groups that we have spent decades pushing aside and ignoring. Except now, the white supremacists get to call themselves a counter culture, and that's a problem. They should not be a counter culture, but rather an insignificant speck. 

    Of course, I'm sure you'll disagree. That's fine. But my point here is a simple one. By sticking with the peaceful coexistence and normalcy that MLK helped to establish, we have had decades of progress. It is only now - by refusing to just "ignore the bad things until they go away" that we have a racist, science-denying reality tv show host in a position of power. Wonderful, right? Decades of social and scientific progress spat on in a single moment because someone had to remind the world that Nazis are a thing that still exists.
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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    edited September 2017
    klash2def said:
     BLM is a hate group and propaganda machine. Look up for yourself where they get their financial backing. 

    Hint.... theyre white elitists.


    Stop believing everything you read on the internet.. You actually believe that bullshit because you WANT to believe it. Speaks volumes about you.

    .. another attempt at trying to dismantle a movement started because of injustice. 

    So is it just not possible at all that maybe we African Americans have some money in our pocket and just maybe funded BLM movement? Or no.. there is no way there are rich black people right? The money HAD to come from white elitist.. SMH..

    See this is the reason why BLM is important. Not just to my people, but to the Nation. Oh what? You thought only Black people subscribe to BLM?

    You want to believe BLM has something to do with White Nationalist so bad.. why? 
     Come back and talk to me when you can think for yourself. Dont believe what I say? Look it up for yourself. The internet is the greatest spurce of imformation in history, i suggest you try it some time.

    Subject chamge just to see where your mind really is. Choose true or false for the following.

     Lybia had one of the highest standards of living im the entire middle east before NATO bombed them.T or F

    Women in Lybia had more rights than amy other Muslim nation in tue middle east. T or F

    Go
    Who do you think you are? You dont get to change the subject. What? you think are teaching me something? You arent teaching me shit.. lol

    I served 8 years in the United States Marine Corps, I've been in the the middle east several times and am well aware of the situation there. But I kindly ask:

    What the hell does that have to do with anything I said?

    I asked you a simple question: "why do you want BLM to be associated with White Elitist so bad?"

    Think for myself? Please.. you are the one referencing a false rumor about BLM being paid for by White Elitist.. to what gain? Why do you assume BLM isn't paid for by the many rich black,white,asian,indian etc people around the world that subscribe to it?
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  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    SBFord said:
    Leiloni said:

    It wasn't a pep rally. They were originally protesting against the removal of a statue and nobody would have paid any attention to them had Antifa not showed up and made a thing of it as they are wont to do. 
    Bull shit. Any time people run around proudly waving the Nazi flag and chanting about white supremacy while spewing facist rhetoric, reasonable thinking caring Americans (and others in the world) take note and object. Please don't "whitewash" what that "rally" was. 

    @SBFord can you tell us what the rules are on posting politics in forum threads?  I think everyone needs to seem them posted in this thread.
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  • goobsnewsgoobsnews Member UncommonPosts: 220
    lol when someone says that KEK is a hate group thing, jesus christ you couldn't be any more uneducated about the matter.
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    It's fun to watch all these wannabe alt-right 4chan troll knobbers try to normalize KKK/Nazis, and their symbols and stuff only to say "ITS TROLLING BRO!" from the comfort of their PC gaming chairs, behind their firewalls and VPNs.  They always seem so emboldened, but they aren't. Just passive aggressive weenies who stand for something just enough that they can hop back on the fence when a fight is about to happen.

    Trolling, hate baiting or whatever the fuck you clowns call it doesn't make you centrist or outside a conflict. It means you're a coward who uses "just kidding" to escape the consequences of your true stance. Talk about entitlement, must be fun to be able to "play" like that.
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  • XxxusernametakenxxxXxxusernametakenxxx Member UncommonPosts: 127
    edited September 2017

    klash2def said:


    Rhoklaw said:


    Torval said:


    Rhoklaw said:

    I love how you can get something removed from a game because it's offensive, but our lovely backwards media will still plaster videos of people burning the American Flag calling it Freedom of Speech. I know this websites rules, but if that doesn't seem extremely ironic, I don't know what does.


    Burning the flag and ranting against the government is a right and freedom of speech we bestow on citizens. Hate and oppression are not because we've also decided that all people have the unalienable right to pursue life equally as peers without regard to their ethnic or racial origins.

    Burning the flag doesn't violate that. Burning the flag show hate, discontent, or frustration and anger at the government which is totally acceptable. We've built into our very government nature the right to hate it to the point we replace it if it's gone bad.

    But hating others just for their DNA composition does violate all of that. You can have freedom of speech and still not have freedom to oppress and intimidate others with that speech. That freedom to speak also doesn't imply freedom from consequences of those words.

    In short, they're not equivalent just as standing against hateful racists doesn't make one a racist themselves.


    So, you don't see the irony in your statement? People burning a flag of the country that gives them the right to burn a flag? That is by definition... true irony. If you are protesting a government, you do so by voting. You don't burn 200 years of history because your unhappy now. That is called irrational behavior.


    Being American is Ironic in general. I don't need to give a history lesson..

    Burning a Flag is not comparable to a racist pep rally that promotes Hate against other people



    So when the Alt-left terrorist hate group antifaci and BLM holds signs that says kill white people is that racist? When they holds sign saying all white people are racist doesn't that make them racist and bigots? When the Alt left terrorists groups like antifaci and BLM throw urine and feces, fire spray, hit them with boards with nails is that a hate group? Now I'm not talking about them attacking white supremist I'm talking when they attack the supporter of The President of The United States does that make the Alt left racist, hateful bigots?

    I get it you think the Alt left terrorists hate groups LIKE BLM and Antifaci are perfectly fine and only white people can be racist. Sorry contrary to what you were indoctrinated in whatever school you attended thsts not the case. You clearly do need a history lesson.
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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    klash2def said:
    klash2def said:
     BLM is a hate group and propaganda machine. Look up for yourself where they get their financial backing. 

    Hint.... theyre white elitists.


    Stop believing everything you read on the internet.. You actually believe that bullshit because you WANT to believe it. Speaks volumes about you.

    .. another attempt at trying to dismantle a movement started because of injustice. 

    So is it just not possible at all that maybe we African Americans have some money in our pocket and just maybe funded BLM movement? Or no.. there is no way there are rich black people right? The money HAD to come from white elitist.. SMH..

    See this is the reason why BLM is important. Not just to my people, but to the Nation. Oh what? You thought only Black people subscribe to BLM?

    You want to believe BLM has something to do with White Nationalist so bad.. why? 
     Come back and talk to me when you can think for yourself. Dont believe what I say? Look it up for yourself. The internet is the greatest spurce of imformation in history, i suggest you try it some time.

    Subject chamge just to see where your mind really is. Choose true or false for the following.

     Lybia had one of the highest standards of living im the entire middle east before NATO bombed them.T or F

    Women in Lybia had more rights than amy other Muslim nation in tue middle east. T or F

    Go
    Who do you think you are? You dont get to change the subject. What? you think are teaching me something? You arent teaching me shit.. lol

    I served 8 years in the United States Marine Corps, I've been in the the middle east several times and am well aware of the situation there. But I kindly ask:

    What the hell does that have to do with anything I said?

    I asked you a simple question: "why do you want BLM to be associated with White Elitist so bad?"

    Think for myself? Please.. you are the one referencing a false rumor about BLM being paid for by White Elitist.. to what gain? Why do you assume BLM isn't paid for by the many rich black,white,asian,indian etc people around the world that subscribe to it?
     I said go look where their money comes from if you dont believe me. I then accused you of being the one letting others do your thinking for you. 

    As i thought, you dodged my questions. 

    What was your MOS? Disinformation? Lol
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