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Well, Grand Theft Auto: SA finally screwed themselves over

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253



    Originally posted by burningatta

    GRAND THEFT AUTO GAMES ARE SOME OF THE BEST GAMES EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!
    you gotta be shittin me! these games are a disgrace to gmaing every where! the only people that play these games are wanna-be thugs. all these games do is bring more violence to neighborhoods and in kids. i was at my friends house and his mother fu**ing 7 year old borther was playing this game. hes got a bright succesful future ahead of him. good going Rock Star on making such a bull sh*t game. and who cares about a sex scene!!! *gasp* oh no we can only see sex everywhere! cant hide it. whatever



    His "mother fu**ing 7 year old brother" ???

    Sounds like you have developed your own unique set of issues without Rockstars help

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  • ScarisScaris Member UncommonPosts: 5,332


    Originally posted by Razorback
    Originally posted by burningatta
    GRAND THEFT AUTO GAMES ARE SOME OF THE BEST GAMES EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!
    you gotta be shittin me! these games are a disgrace to gmaing every where! the only people that play these games are wanna-be thugs. all these games do is bring more violence to neighborhoods and in kids. i was at my friends house and his mother fu**ing 7 year old borther was playing this game. hes got a bright succesful future ahead of him. good going Rock Star on making such a bull sh*t game. and who cares about a sex scene!!! *gasp* oh no we can only see sex everywhere! cant hide it. whatever
    His "mother fu**ing 7 year old brother" ???
    Sounds like you have developed your own unique set of issues without Rockstars help

    Lol, thank you Razor.

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  • Kem0sabeKem0sabe Member Posts: 443


    Originally posted by apocadall
    Could always go with the conspiracy theory that RS hired a group of modders and told them exactly how to unlock this part of the game and then exploit and publicitate it so they would have so much publicity now.


    Eh, there is no midding needed, that was bulshit coming from RS, the sex scene is hardcoded into the game, the RS dev´s put it there, 3 different versions of the game have it, i´m still stupified how RS had the balls to claim some modders coded the sex scene and not them.

    Anyways, RS is majorly screwed on this one, the game has been taken off every major store chain, even online stores are only supposed to sell it in their addult sections wich included porn videos and vibrators... "hey dad, can you lend me your CC, i need to buy something from the XXX section on Smutshop.com"

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  • apocadallapocadall Member Posts: 64


    Originally posted by Kem0sabe
    Originally posted by apocadall
    Could always go with the conspiracy theory that RS hired a group of modders and told them exactly how to unlock this part of the game and then exploit and publicitate it so they would have so much publicity now.


    Eh, there is no midding needed, that was bulshit coming from RS, the sex scene is hardcoded into the game, the RS dev´s put it there, 3 different versions of the game have it, i´m still stupified how RS had the balls to claim some modders coded the sex scene and not them.

    Anyways, RS is majorly screwed on this one, the game has been taken off every major store chain, even online stores are only supposed to sell it in their addult sections wich included porn videos and vibrators... "hey dad, can you lend me your CC, i need to buy something from the XXX section on Smutshop.com"



    No, what I mean is RS DID put it in, and was waiting for the right time to tell a group of people how to unlock it and then with careful social engineering skills they've now got so much publicity it isn't funny.

  • OrccOrcc Member Posts: 3,043

    Seeing as how GTASA has already sold millions of copies, and has more than covered development costs, a measly TEMPORARY AO rating isnt goign to hinder sales. The AO rating is only until Rockstar removes the Hot Coffee section from the game code, then it goes back to being an M rated game, which will be some time in fall.


    Originally posted by Razorback

    Originally posted by burningatta
    GRAND THEFT AUTO GAMES ARE SOME OF THE BEST GAMES EVER MADE!!!!!!!!!
    you gotta be shittin me! these games are a disgrace to gmaing every where! the only people that play these games are wanna-be thugs. all these games do is bring more violence to neighborhoods and in kids. i was at my friends house and his mother fu**ing 7 year old borther was playing this game. hes got a bright succesful future ahead of him. good going Rock Star on making such a bull sh*t game. and who cares about a sex scene!!! *gasp* oh no we can only see sex everywhere! cant hide it. whatever



    I play them and I love them. No im not a wanna-be thug, I just want to have some fun.

    Oh, aren't you the one who made that thread about "Who here smokes weed?" Ya, youve got a bright future ahead of you.

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  • Kem0sabeKem0sabe Member Posts: 443

    Ah, but now RS have left themself open to lawsuits, their stock has fallen in price, total refund cash set aside is in the order of 50 milion, wich i think more than surpasses development costs, it will not be cheap to produce a entire new batch of games to sell after the sex scene is removed, overall it will cost RS.

    not to mention RS´s credit with gamers has been severely damaged, they lie to our faces, expect us to swalow it?

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  • lyonman24lyonman24 Member Posts: 855

    WHO FRIGGIN CARES ABOUT A SEX SCENE???? I WILL TELL YOU WHO FUKKING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE!!!!!!!
    PLAIN AND SIMPLE THEY RATHER THERE KIDS SEE DEATH AND VIOLENCE THAN PEOPLE MAKING LOVE/SEX...

    DAMN REPIBLICANS!!! LOL

    NOW WHO WOULD RATHER WATCH OR JOIN IN ON SEX??? I KNOW I WOULD RATHER THAN KILL SOMEONE FOR FUN.

    THATS WHY AMERICA IS BACK ASSWARDS.

    SORRY THIS IS MY BIGGEST PICK/GRIPE ABOUT THE COUNTRY I LOVE AND LIVE IN. ::::20::::::28::

  • GamewizeGamewize Member Posts: 956



    Originally posted by lyonman24

    WHO FRIGGIN CARES ABOUT A SEX SCENE???? I WILL TELL YOU WHO FUKKING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE!!!!!!!
    PLAIN AND SIMPLE THEY RATHER THERE KIDS SEE DEATH AND VIOLENCE THAN PEOPLE MAKING LOVE/SEX...
    DAMN REPIBLICANS!!! LOL
    NOW WHO WOULD RATHER WATCH OR JOIN IN ON SEX??? I KNOW I WOULD RATHER THAN KILL SOMEONE FOR FUN.
    THATS WHY AMERICA IS BACK ASSWARDS.
    SORRY THIS IS MY BIGGEST PICK/GRIPE ABOUT THE COUNTRY I LOVE AND LIVE IN. ::::20::::::28::



    WOW! All capitals and being stupid, boy you just did 2 HUGE no-no's, and there you go bringing religion in here, im religous myself but I dont want another flame war, And, as a matter of fact, quite a few people care. So please, type correctly, cut out the flaming, and post like an intelligent human being.

    I think it's the objective of your past self to make you cringe.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by Vald
    Im really curious about why people are claiming RS screwed themselves over?


    They just lost over 6 dollars in stocks (which relates to over 55 million dollars in lost revenue every 3 months).

    This isnt including the games they must accept back (in terms of ganes this is pretty much a complete lose)

    My store alone is returning 1200 copies this weekend. That's 1200x35.95 for one store. So far Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, BestBuy, Babbages, EB, Target, Wal*Mart, EB, and Gamestop (not to mention hundreds of other smaller company gaming stores)

    So you have 55 million dollars in lost revenue from stocks and future earnings every 3 months, over 200 million in software returned and money back (including used games that were bought months ago), a federal investigation, a continuing ESRB panel investigation and mega fine, and a Parental-led non-profit group pressing charges citing undisclosed source of a rather graphic sex scene.

    That's why RS are screwing themselves.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by Razorback
    Every other 14+ year old with a soft Mom or Dad will just get their folks to grab it for them anyway...
    .


    Not if they have to go to a Porn bookstore/game shop to pick it up they wont. In the U.S it's rated A. That's the equilivant of rated X. X= Porno

    However, in the fall it should be back to M with altered content

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by lyonman24
    WHO FRIGGIN CARES ABOUT A SEX SCENE???? I WILL TELL YOU WHO FUKKING RELIGIOUS PEOPLE!!!!!!!


    it has nothing to do with the sex scene ....and it has nothing to do with religious people (as it seems if anything gets pulled that another likes they blame religious people....pretty bad copout if you ask me)

    The game was pulled because:

    1. They lied to the ESRB panel (who are not religious)
    2. The lied to a Congressional panel (who are certainly NOT relgious). Thepanel was headed by Hillary Clinton.
    3. They lied about it being led and developed by Modders
    4. They lied
    5. It was the cumulation of Violence, Drugs, Gangrelated praise, and sex. Not just the sex.
    Which all inevitably led to an A rating and thus pulled

    Please dont blame it on the religious people....that's very ignorant and prejudice. Not one organization that investigated RockStar was religious by any means so please dont put religion into it...that will just open an unnecessary can of unrelated worms.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253



    Originally posted by En1Gma




    Originally posted by Razorback
    Every other 14+ year old with a soft Mom or Dad will just get their folks to grab it for them anyway...
    .



    Not if they have to go to a Porn bookstore/game shop to pick it up they wont. In the U.S it's rated A. That's the equilivant of rated X. X= Porno

    However, in the fall it should be back to M with altered content


    Oh right... well geez.... ok I didnt know that...image

    That actually sucks LOL

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  • lyonman24lyonman24 Member Posts: 855

    WHAT 2 BIG NO-NO'S?? ITS A FACT RELIGIOUS NUTS COMPLAIN ABOUT NUDITY/SEX. I BELIEVE IN GOD BUT I DONT GO TO A CHURCH PLAIN SIMPLE DONE. 3 OF MY CLOSEST FEMALE FRIENDS WHERE ASSULTED IN CHURCH SO YES I HOLD A GRUDGE DO I THINK ALL CHURCHES ARE BAD NO I DONT.

    BUT ALL I HEAR THIS OK NO NO SEX ED IN SCHOOLS BANNING STRIP CLUBS AND BOTCOTTING ADULT BOOK STORE IS RELIOUS PEOPLE. THE BAD THING IS IS VIOLENCE IS FINE IF VIOLENCE WAS NOT FINE THERE WOULD ONLY BE 50'S SITCOME RERUNS ON TV. PLAIN AND SIMPLE THE RELIGIOUS SIDE OF AMERICA GETS ABOUT 90-95 PERCENT OF WHAT THEY WANT CHANGED.

    THIS IS JUST MY PROSPECTIVE ITS NOT FLAMING AT ALL ITS MY OPINION I RESPECT YOUR OPINION I DONT FLAME YOU FOR YOUR SO DONT PUT MINE DOWN. WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.

    BUT THIS IS JUST WHAT I SEE/HEAR WHERE IM FROM.::::20::::::28::

    ORGASMS NEVER KILLED ANYONE BUT ROUGH SEX HAS LOL

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Do you believe in a Caps Lock button ?

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  • firemagicfiremagic Member Posts: 878


    Originally posted by lyonman24
    WHAT 2 BIG NO-NO'S?? ITS A FACT RELIGIOUS NUTS COMPLAIN ABOUT NUDITY/SEX. I BELIEVE IN GOD BUT I DONT GO TO A CHURCH PLAIN SIMPLE DONE. 3 OF MY CLOSEST FEMALE FRIENDS WHERE ASSULTED IN CHURCH SO YES I HOLD A GRUDGE DO I THINK ALL CHURCHES ARE BAD NO I DONT.BUT ALL I HEAR THIS OK NO NO SEX ED IN SCHOOLS BANNING STRIP CLUBS AND BOTCOTTING ADULT BOOK STORE IS RELIOUS PEOPLE. THE BAD THING IS IS VIOLENCE IS FINE IF VIOLENCE WAS NOT FINE THERE WOULD ONLY BE 50'S SITCOME RERUNS ON TV. PLAIN AND SIMPLE THE RELIGIOUS SIDE OF AMERICA GETS ABOUT 90-95 PERCENT OF WHAT THEY WANT CHANGED. THIS IS JUST MY PROSPECTIVE ITS NOT FLAMING AT ALL ITS MY OPINION I RESPECT YOUR OPINION I DONT FLAME YOU FOR YOUR SO DONT PUT MINE DOWN. WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.BUT THIS IS JUST WHAT I SEE/HEAR WHERE IM FROM.::::20::::::28::ORGASMS NEVER KILLED ANYONE BUT ROUGH SEX HAS LOL

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  • MerodocMerodoc Member Posts: 227

    Interestingly, Amazon.com is still selling copies of San Andreas. Note, though, that the page contents that the game has an "M" rating--pick it up while you can.

    I watched the video of Hot Coffee, and will post a link if desired. It is something I would never show to anyone under the age of 15/16--whatsoever, no exceptions. It should be noted that the pixels and women are ugly and it really isn't anything hot'n'horny.

     

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  • lyonman24lyonman24 Member Posts: 855

    FIRST OFF IM AT WORK AND THEY STICK THE CAP LOCK BUTTON SO RELAX IM NOT YELLING.

    ENIGMA LIKE I WAS SAYING EVEN BEFORE THIS SEX SCENE IT WAS ALL I HEARD WAS RELIGIOUS THATS ALL I SAW/HEARD CRY ABOUT THIS GAME. ITS NOT OUT IF IGNORANCE I SPEEK ITS OUT OF WHAT I SEE/HEAR. WHAT GROUP DID A OPEN BURNING OF HARRY POTTER?? CHURCH GOERS. WHO DID A OPEN BURNING OF GTA ATLEAST IN NORTHERN CALI??? CHURCH GOERS. THAT IS JUST WHAT I HEARED/SAW. I MYSELF BELIEVE IN GOD BUT I DONT GO TO CHURCH.

    HOW CAN I KEEP RELIGION OUT OF A DISCUSSION THAT THEY HELPED BANN TONS OF STUFF?? INCLUDING GAMES WHAT YOU DONT THINK THEY FELT PRESSURE FROM RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ABOUT THIS GAME?? ALL IM RELAYING IS WHAT INFO I HAVE AND HOW I FEEL IM NOT FLAMING ANYONE ENIGMA.

    IM JUST TIRED OF TRYING TO KEEP RELIGION OUT OF SUBJECTS THAT ARE EFFECTED BY IT JUST SO WE DONT OFFEND ANYONE. CALL MY A FAT BASTARD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM FAT DO I CARE OF YOUR OPINION NO I DONT. BECAUSE ITS A OPINON. ALL IM SAYING IS DONT BE SO SENCITIVE OVER RELGION EVERYONE ITS A BELIEF SYSTEM SOME POEPLE LIVE BY. I LIVE BY MY WORD AND ACTIONS JUST HOW WE AS PEOPLE ARE DIFFERANT PLEASE JUST DONT SAY IM IGNORANT FOR SAYING THAT CAUSE IM NOT ITS JUST MY OPINION WHICH SOME PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME ACCEPTING. I SORRY IF YOU FEEL IM FLAMEING BUT IM NOT.::::20::::::28::

    AND WELL ALSO IM NOT USING RELIGION AS A COPOUT JUST INFO I HAVE SEEN/HEARD. AND IF THE GAME WAS SO BAD WHY DIDNT ESRB BANN IT BEFORE THIS PIXELATED NIGHTMARE OF A SEX SCENE???

  • GamewizeGamewize Member Posts: 956
    Probably because few, if anyone, knew about it until now.

    I think it's the objective of your past self to make you cringe.

  • DinionDinion Member Posts: 879


    Originally posted by Merodoc
    Interestingly, Amazon.com is still selling copies of San Andreas. Note, though, that the page contents that the game has an "M" rating--pick it up while you can.
    I watched the video of Hot Coffee, and will post a link if desired. It is something I would never show to anyone under the age of 15/16--whatsoever, no exceptions. It should be noted that the pixels and women are ugly and it really isn't anything hot'n'horny.

    mods probably don't want it posted but could you send me a link? I want to know what all the fuss is about.

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  • ValdVald Member Posts: 138



    Originally posted by En1Gma




    Originally posted by Vald
    Im really curious about why people are claiming RS screwed themselves over?


    They just lost over 6 dollars in stocks (which relates to over 55 million dollars in lost revenue every 3 months).

    This isnt including the games they must accept back (in terms of ganes this is pretty much a complete lose)

    My store alone is returning 1200 copies this weekend. That's 1200x35.95 for one store. So far Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, BestBuy, Babbages, EB, Target, Wal*Mart, EB, and Gamestop (not to mention hundreds of other smaller company gaming stores)

    So you have 55 million dollars in lost revenue from stocks and future earnings every 3 months, over 200 million in software returned and money back (including used games that were bought months ago), a federal investigation, a continuing ESRB panel investigation and mega fine, and a Parental-led non-profit group pressing charges citing undisclosed source of a rather graphic sex scene.

    That's why RS are screwing themselves.



    Ok, now take away the cost to gain this amount of television time to advertise a single game. Then take away the cost to reprint all those returned untampered copies of the game. How long is this loss really going to last? three months at the most? I mean come on, screwing yourself means you actually lose money in the long run not minor set backs but large strides forward in financial growth. And the statement that its no longer available instores any more was my point that they can now raise the price, due to the selective distribution of the game. Or even better, this is a very minor code in the game. removing it wont change the gameplay at all, just like adding it didnt. So they simply remove this coding from the future prints of the game to bring the rating down but then sell the unaltered games with the adult rating for whatever price they want with the code already unlocked. They have alot of options here, all of which will make them more money than they are losing now.

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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    I'm locking this thread as I think it's going to spiral WAY off topic.

    Also, that last post did not help ::::04::::::07::


    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • MerodocMerodoc Member Posts: 227

    Ok, ok. Sorry. I didn't think the video would have quite that effect. Sorry, again, but so many people were posting outright lies I felt it had to be set in stone.

    Sorry to creep you out, En1gma, you are still my superhero.

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  • methane47methane47 Member UncommonPosts: 3,694


    Originally posted by lyonman24
    IM JUST TIRED OF TRYING TO KEEP RELIGION OUT OF SUBJECTS THAT ARE EFFECTED BY IT JUST SO WE DONT OFFEND ANYONE. CALL MY A FAT BASTARD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM FAT DO I CARE OF YOUR OPINION NO I DONT. BECAUSE ITS A OPINON. ALL IM SAYING IS DONT BE SO SENCITIVE OVER RELGION EVERYONE ITS A BELIEF SYSTEM SOME POEPLE LIVE BY. I LIVE BY MY WORD AND ACTIONS JUST HOW WE AS PEOPLE ARE DIFFERANT PLEASE JUST DONT SAY IM IGNORANT FOR SAYING THAT CAUSE IM NOT ITS JUST MY OPINION WHICH SOME PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME ACCEPTING. I SORRY IF YOU FEEL IM FLAMEING BUT IM NOT.::::20::::::28::

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    -Introducting wrtiting to Civilization....

    -Introducting Science to People....

    -Trying to Ban alchohol... EVEN THOUGH we KNOW that Alchohol is a totally harmless drink with no adverse effects.

    -for a small group of us that protested a book that they did not think was good for little children....
    (Even though they had to BUY The book in order to burn it)

    -Trying to keep pornography and sexual ludeness out of the mind of minors... Even though We all know that children would never do such bad things...

    -Trying to keep pornography out of games that we know our children are going to play...

    <sarcastic smilie>
    DANG YOU CHURCH GOERS>>> YOU NEVER DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR SOCIETY!! ALL YOU DO IS INTERFARE WITH THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT WANT TO DO IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE PLAY GAMES THAT HAVE 2 MINUTE SEX SENCES IN THEM!!!!!! BECAUSE SINCE IN 200 OUT OF THE 1 MILLION CHURCHES THERE WAS SOME SHADY ACTIVITY I WILL NEVER GO TO ANOTHER CHURCH AGAIN.... THOSE ROTTEN CHURCHES....
    <sarcastic smilie>


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  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384


    Originally posted by Merodoc
    Ok, ok. Sorry. I didn't think the video would have quite that effect. Sorry, again, but so many people were posting outright lies I felt it had to be set in stone.
    Sorry to creep you out, En1gma, you are still my superhero.
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  • ValdVald Member Posts: 138



    Originally posted by methane47




    Originally posted by lyonman24
    IM JUST TIRED OF TRYING TO KEEP RELIGION OUT OF SUBJECTS THAT ARE EFFECTED BY IT JUST SO WE DONT OFFEND ANYONE. CALL MY A FAT BASTARD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM FAT DO I CARE OF YOUR OPINION NO I DONT. BECAUSE ITS A OPINON. ALL IM SAYING IS DONT BE SO SENCITIVE OVER RELGION EVERYONE ITS A BELIEF SYSTEM SOME POEPLE LIVE BY. I LIVE BY MY WORD AND ACTIONS JUST HOW WE AS PEOPLE ARE DIFFERANT PLEASE JUST DONT SAY IM IGNORANT FOR SAYING THAT CAUSE IM NOT ITS JUST MY OPINION WHICH SOME PEOPLE HAVE A HARD TIME ACCEPTING. I SORRY IF YOU FEEL IM FLAMEING BUT IM NOT.::::20::::::28::


    Well I'm going to publicly apologize for church goers right now... For All the injustice we have done...
    -Introducting wrtiting to Civilization....

    -Introducting Science to People....

    -Trying to Ban alchohol... EVEN THOUGH we KNOW that Alchohol is a totally harmless drink with no adverse effects.

    -for a small group of us that protested a book that they did not think was good for little children....
    (Even though they had to BUY The book in order to burn it)

    -Trying to keep pornography and sexual ludeness out of the mind of minors... Even though We all know that children would never do such bad things...

    -Trying to keep pornography out of games that we know our children are going to play...

    <sarcastic smilie>
    DANG YOU CHURCH GOERS>>> YOU NEVER DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR SOCIETY!! ALL YOU DO IS INTERFARE WITH THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT WANT TO DO IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE PLAY GAMES THAT HAVE 2 MINUTE SEX SENCES IN THEM!!!!!! BECAUSE SINCE IN 200 OUT OF THE 1 MILLION CHURCHES THERE WAS SOME SHADY ACTIVITY I WILL NEVER GO TO ANOTHER CHURCH AGAIN.... THOSE ROTTEN CHURCHES....
    <sarcastic smilie>




    This is offtopic but sorry, religion is not the foundation of written language...nor science...I'll agree with the anti-drinking, book burning, and child raising statement though.

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