Hurrah!! ! Rejoice! Great news! The gaming development world is in need of some good old regulations, clearly we are just running ourselves to the ground.
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If the data about whales in MMORPG's is correct as for mobile games. It will be funny if these possible laws drive them off and MMORPG's go belly up without the funds to support themselves. This might be the death of F2P and B2P and the return of the subscription games.
Hurrah!! ! Rejoice! Great news! The gaming development world is in need of some good old regulations, clearly we are just running ourselves to the ground.
Hey, if gaming companies are going to bring real life into their games by allowing us to buy in-game items with real life money, it only makes sense that the real life regulations around such things follow as well. Of course, typically there aren't too many real life regulations around buying most things so there isn't too much to worry about regarding most in-game real-money purchases, but when it comes to gambling... well, they asked for it, since it's not like they didn't know it was gambling anyways.
this is great, I think it was predatory as well. My 12 year old son comes to me all the time asking for money for shit in games.. the answer is always "NO and it will remain no until you EARN the money and can decide responsibly how you want to spend it"
Our tax dollars at work... legislation to ban loot boxes in video games passes while legislation on gun control sits in a filibuster for all eternity.
Laugh at that...
A shock to some I know but Belgium isn't in the US.
Even ignoring your point, it's as if some folks seem to be implying that politicians could solve that gun control issue lickety-split no problem, if only they weren't so distracted by everything else...
Here's to all who enjoyed pointing out this was just whining by the butt-hurt... enjoy!
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Hard to say where this all ends-up and what different companies will do preemptively if anything. Most will probably just wait and do nothing other than lobby like an SOB.
Robert Trump is on the Zenimax board of directors by the way
And since Belgium isn't in the US companies won't be able to adopt US style gross manipulation of the truth lobbying to influence what may happen.
As far as ESO goes it may mean changes to the EU servers - and presumably people with an EU account will have to log on to EU servers. (Potential ways around this of course but most won't bother.)
It's good news, loot boxes unregulated extravaganza is going to end.
I posted in the other thread, there's also news in the US side against loot boxes:
Who would have imagined, politicians and gamers on the same page. Expect Gdemami cause reasons.
Waiting for some other good news :
Unregulated extravaganza from Dev's , using "backers" money as an excuse to "hit and run" , is going to an end.
As EA seems to be the ... killer of the loot boxes, I hope robert spatial industry will be the .. killer of the "K(ick) S(teal) Projects" .
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
Hard to say where this all ends-up and what different companies will do preemptively if anything. Most will probably just wait and do nothing other than lobby like an SOB.
Robert Trump is on the Zenimax board of directors by the way
And since Belgium isn't in the US companies won't be able to adopt US style gross manipulation of the truth lobbying to influence what may happen.
As far as ESO goes it may mean changes to the EU servers - and presumably people with an EU account will have to log on to EU servers. (Potential ways around this of course but most won't bother.)
Too complicated. Whatever they do (if anything,) it'll be to all platforms and servers.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
lowers head...Canada where are you,so slow to act,always waiting for others to act first,we should be the leaders in what is right,not followers. /claps for Belgium to lead the way.It really is imo a no brainer and as i have been saying,gaming has been getting away with murder and the laws are coming,many more changes still needed.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
It's good news, loot boxes unregulated extravaganza is going to end.
I posted in the other thread, there's also news in the US side against loot boxes:
Who would have imagined, politicians and gamers on the same page. Expect Gdemami cause reasons.
Our tax dollars at work... legislation to ban loot boxes in video games passes while legislation on gun control sits in a filibuster for all eternity.
Laugh at that...
Both are issues and need to be dealt with, and at least in the USA, the gun issue isn't going anywhere due to the gun lobby.
However, they are talking about Belgium. I haven't heard of Belgium having any kind of gun problem. Does Belgium even have any functional guns these days? You never really hear about Belgium, unless you read/watch Hercule Peroit, but he was apparently in the UK, and of course, he's fictional. (If I spelled the name incorrectly, my apologize to Agatha.)
It's good news, loot boxes unregulated extravaganza is going to end.
I posted in the other thread, there's also news in the US side against loot boxes:
Who would have imagined, politicians and gamers on the same page. Expect Gdemami cause reasons.
Our tax dollars at work... legislation to ban loot boxes in video games passes while legislation on gun control sits in a filibuster for all eternity.
Laugh at that...
Both are issues and need to be dealt with, and at least in the USA, the gun issue isn't going anywhere due to the gun lobby.
However, they are talking about Belgium. I haven't heard of Belgium having any kind of gun problem. Does Belgium even have any functional guns these days? You never really hear about Belgium, unless you read/watch Hercule Peroit, but he was apparently in the UK, and of course, he's fictional. (If I spelled the name incorrectly, my apologize to Agatha.)
You do not watch the news much...been a couple terrorist attacks in Belgium keeping them in the news.
Don't get your hopes up at this point - because the chances of anything coming out of this as far as EU are slim to none.
The chances of anything happening in the rest of the world - even smaller.
And before last week the standard line was companies don't listen or care and this type of monetization creep is the future. No matter how the general gaming public might feel.
Well the worm has turned. EA tired to push the boundaries, the public responded with a resounding no, Disney pulled their leash and EA backed down. Even if no actual legislation is to follow the precedent has been set. Being a company that appears to participate in predatory monetization schemes now will acquire a very negative public image. And that's the last thing investors are going to desire.
And since this investigation and legal battle will make it into the public mainstream news even people who have no interest in gaming will hear, be influenced and respond to it. Making it very hard for corporate public relations to deflect the damage by claiming the outrage is only coming from a minority of internet troglodytes.
Hurrah!! ! Rejoice! Great news! The gaming development world is in need of some good old regulations, clearly we are just running ourselves to the ground.
Hey, if gaming companies are going to bring real life into their games by allowing us to buy in-game items with real life money, it only makes sense that the real life regulations around such things follow as well. Of course, typically there aren't too many real life regulations around buying most things so there isn't too much to worry about regarding most in-game real-money purchases, but when it comes to gambling... well, they asked for it, since it's not like they didn't know it was gambling anyways.
Well, I'm just fantasizing that one day they would have regulation on how people can make games, and have each category defined. No longer lobby shooters be called mmorpg.. Most importantly, keep gaming companies in check with what they promise. Make the customer have easy access for a refund if promises were not delivered. Drastic changes to games, like archeage, will also allow a customer refund, including his ingame shop purchases. Big changes to the game will be voted on by tthe "veteran, active" player base. Veteran is those who played for at least half a year, active is played at least 35 hours in 2 months.
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I get this argument that regulations are not what people want in gaming.. I mean, if they start saying you can't have blood or swearing/cursing in games then it would be terrible but this isn't regulations about gameplay or content, that's already regulated by censorship laws and age restrictions. This would be about video game business practices.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Are they going to roll TCG games into this as well? If not, why? It is the exact same mechanic. Outlaw Pokemon, Magic and all the rest of them.
I wouldn't mind. When I think about it, I know quite a few people who are gambling addicts today where TCGs at least in part laid the seed when they were young. The road to teaching a child that gambling is okay and "fun" can easily begin with giving them randomized pokemon for their cash.
That didn't take long... also glad to see some common sense finally being applied.
I'd be surprised if this resulted in an outright ban though, more likely loot boxes will just be heavily regulated (age restrictions, disclosure of odds, extra taxes, etc.), which for any game aiming at the mass market may as well be a ban.
It's good news, loot boxes unregulated extravaganza is going to end.
I posted in the other thread, there's also news in the US side against loot boxes:
Who would have imagined, politicians and gamers on the same page. Expect Gdemami cause reasons.
Just to clarify, this video, from the US does not state that loot boxes are gambling, or that they are illegal (at this time). They do state that legislation should be added to prevent predatory sales.
I have not seen the actual statement from Belgium to see if it is similar (I suspect it is).
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
As far as ESO goes it may mean changes to the EU servers - and presumably people with an EU account will have to log on to EU servers. (Potential ways around this of course but most won't bother.)
Waiting for some other good news :
Unregulated extravaganza from Dev's , using "backers" money as an excuse to "hit and run" , is going to an end.
As EA seems to be the ... killer of the loot boxes, I hope robert spatial industry will be the .. killer of the "K(ick) S(teal) Projects" .
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
You think politicians do not cater to the whiny and butt-hurt? It was the whiny and butt-hurt that cried for this type of action.
/claps for Belgium to lead the way.It really is imo a no brainer and as i have been saying,gaming has been getting away with murder and the laws are coming,many more changes still needed.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Both are issues and need to be dealt with, and at least in the USA, the gun issue isn't going anywhere due to the gun lobby.
However, they are talking about Belgium. I haven't heard of Belgium having any kind of gun problem. Does Belgium even have any functional guns these days? You never really hear about Belgium, unless you read/watch Hercule Peroit, but he was apparently in the UK, and of course, he's fictional. (If I spelled the name incorrectly, my apologize to Agatha.)
Lost my mind, now trying to lose yours...
You do not watch the news much...been a couple terrorist attacks in Belgium keeping them in the news.
Well the worm has turned. EA tired to push the boundaries, the public responded with a resounding no, Disney pulled their leash and EA backed down. Even if no actual legislation is to follow the precedent has been set. Being a company that appears to participate in predatory monetization schemes now will acquire a very negative public image. And that's the last thing investors are going to desire.
And since this investigation and legal battle will make it into the public mainstream news even people who have no interest in gaming will hear, be influenced and respond to it. Making it very hard for corporate public relations to deflect the damage by claiming the outrage is only coming from a minority of internet troglodytes.
Drastic changes to games, like archeage, will also allow a customer refund, including his ingame shop purchases.
Big changes to the game will be voted on by tthe "veteran, active" player base. Veteran is those who played for at least half a year, active is played at least 35 hours in 2 months.
Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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I'd be surprised if this resulted in an outright ban though, more likely loot boxes will just be heavily regulated (age restrictions, disclosure of odds, extra taxes, etc.), which for any game aiming at the mass market may as well be a ban.
PS. Never thought I'd say this, but thanks EA.
Just to clarify, this video, from the US does not state that loot boxes are gambling, or that they are illegal (at this time). They do state that legislation should be added to prevent predatory sales.
I have not seen the actual statement from Belgium to see if it is similar (I suspect it is).