But given you're creds your about as qualified to play arm-chair developer as anyone else, please, tell us you're amazing insight.
yah, I am just handing it to you now.
(get it... limp-wristed... handing it.)
I already stated where I thought they should focus before it turned into partial quotes and ad hominems.
I know this is going to mess with your raw ego, but if you go back and actually read I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all. Only on how they should present it to try to continue funding. Without funding, which looks to be a huge issue moving forward, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever how they plan to develop it. If you want I can use smaller words from now on. Or grunts. Don't want to lose the audience.
I guess we can add the typical deflections and non sequiturs to the list though. Thanks for reminding me of the tactics again.
It doesn't really matter much to me. The defenders of the game have done a fine job of showing that I was probably right about the project not going anywhere or having a solid plan moving forward. That's usually how these things work out once the bunker mentality sets in.
We can talk about other things and keep this thread near the top though, since we already are anyways. I like continuity.
one of the most insightful and important discoveries so far in this century, is the invention of the ignore button. Now I wonder why these forums havent managed to add that superb construction to an easy accessible spot for my convenience?
Slapshot1188 said: Are most people now comfortable that he will deliver SOMETHING? Yes.
This is everything.. because at one time, they weren't, just like all the other games in development.
If I would fault CoE for anything, it would be not hiding behind a nice sanitized PR face, which seems to be what has drawn all the butthurt ire.
Except about 2 yrs post KSer I was invited to try the CU pre alpha, and I had been seeing videos of the game for 6 months.
It was really rough of course, and just an early engine test with placeholders.
So far COE has much less to show than Ashes which started like last summer.
SBS / Caspian remind me so much of Aventurine / Tasos (?)
All they need to do is relocate the studio to Greece or offshore some of the development to Manilla to make the parallel complete.
Running Pre-alpha events or making pointless videos for the public are just a waste of time and money, both of which bad things to squander when your company is on a tight budget.
They are better served right now to spend their time and money on making the game then wasting it on doing some dog and pony show trying to appease the thankless.
You do realize most (not all) pre alpha events are for the purpose of testing the game and not a "dog and pony show" right?
I mean I suppose you could just not do any testing at all and then release the game and then deal with the fallout of a game breaking bug that prevents people from logging in because you decided it wasn't worth your time to do a dog and pony show.
You do realize that most companies hire or outsource a professional QA team to test their game, people like frostymug. or maybe you don't. Which would make his cred lost on you.
Yep and times have changed so not only do they have a professional QA team to test their game but they also bring in the community because as good as your QA team might be its always good to have a fresh set of eyes looking at your game.
They get a crapload of redundant reports or reports that might just say "hey this is broke" which takes time to sort but it also means you get some gems that will find the bugs, write about them in detail and even how to reproduce them which saves the team time.
Also you could do without the little jabs at anyone who doesn't agree with you. It makes you look like a child and undermines any good points your post might have, if any.
I already stated where I thought they should focus before it turned into partial quotes and ad hominems.
I know this is going to mess with your raw ego, but if you go back and actually read I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all. Only on how they should present it to try to continue funding. Without funding, which looks to be a huge issue moving forward, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever how they plan to develop it. If you want I can use smaller words from now on. Or grunts. Don't want to lose the audience.
I guess we can add the typical deflections and non sequiturs to the list though. Thanks for reminding me of the tactics again.
It doesn't really matter much to me. The defenders of the game have done a fine job of showing that I was probably right about the project not going anywhere or having a solid plan moving forward. That's usually how these things work out once the bunker mentality sets in.
We can talk about other things and keep this thread near the top though, since we already are anyways. I like continuity.
Lets see.
You say: "I already stated where I thought they should focus " Then you say "I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all"
You do realize.. at least one of those has to be wrong.
I claim that people don't really have the credentials to be telling anyone how to run a game company, because if they did, their ego would never let them shut up about it.
You come in and admit you don't have the creds to talk about how a game company should do things.
and somehow I am wrong and the bad guy.
Seems Legit.
Kefo said: Yep and times have changed so not only do they have a professional QA team to test their game but they also bring in the community because as good as your QA team might be its always good to have a fresh set of eyes looking at your game.
They get a crapload of redundant reports or reports that might just say "hey this is broke" which takes time to sort but it also means you get some gems that will find the bugs, write about them in detail and even how to reproduce them which saves the team time.
Also you could do without the little jabs at anyone who doesn't agree with you. It makes you look like a child and undermines any good points your post might have, if any.
Look, you had your mind made up and set before you even came into this discussion. if I thought you actually came here for a respectful discussion where you were open to being wrong, and not be wrapped up in feeding your ego to be right at any and all costs, I'd dispense with the jabs, like I have with some other posters.
So, tell me why I should care what you think?
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Yep and times have changed so not only do they have a professional QA team to test their game but they also bring in the community because as good as your QA team might be its always good to have a fresh set of eyes looking at your game.
They get a crapload of redundant reports or reports that might just say "hey this is broke" which takes time to sort but it also means you get some gems that will find the bugs, write about them in detail and even how to reproduce them which saves the team time.
Also you could do without the little jabs at anyone who doesn't agree with you. It makes you look like a child and undermines any good points your post might have, if any.
Look, you had your mind made up and set before you even came into this discussion. if I thought you actually came here for a respectful discussion where you were open to being wrong, and not be wrapped up in feeding your ego to be right at any and all costs, I'd dispense with the jabs, like I have with some other posters.
So, tell me why I should care what you think?
Really? I had my mind made up before I came here? So you’re telling people they aren’t qualified to comment on how a game studio is run but you’re qualified to tell me what I’m thinking before I think it? That’s quite a feat.
I am open to a discussion and if you read what I wrote I was discussing but also told you when you insult people it undermines your arguments no matter how good they are.
You should take your own advice about being open to being wrong and not trying to feed your ego since you spent how many pages arguing with how many people about how they are wrong and you are right in regards to agreeing to a terms of service and how it is legally binding.
I already stated where I thought they should focus before it turned into partial quotes and ad hominems.
I know this is going to mess with your raw ego, but if you go back and actually read I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all. Only on how they should present it to try to continue funding. Without funding, which looks to be a huge issue moving forward, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever how they plan to develop it. If you want I can use smaller words from now on. Or grunts. Don't want to lose the audience.
I guess we can add the typical deflections and non sequiturs to the list though. Thanks for reminding me of the tactics again.
It doesn't really matter much to me. The defenders of the game have done a fine job of showing that I was probably right about the project not going anywhere or having a solid plan moving forward. That's usually how these things work out once the bunker mentality sets in.
We can talk about other things and keep this thread near the top though, since we already are anyways. I like continuity.
Lets see.
You say: "I already stated where I thought they should focus " Then you say "I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all"
You do realize.. at least one of those has to be wrong.
I claim that people don't really have the credentials to be telling anyone how to run a game company, because if they did, their ego would never let them shut up about it.
You come in and admit you don't have the creds to talk about how a game company should do things.
and somehow I am wrong and the bad guy.
Seems Legit.
I already stated where I thought they should focus on, get this because I will say it again only slow this time... PRESENTATION to get more INTEREST and POTENTIAL FUNDING. Did you catch the missing word this time?
(it's develop)
So hopefully you do now finally realize neither of my statements were wrong. You're arguing just to argue and clearly have no idea what I wrote about other than it wasn't gushing over the game or your boy Walsh.
I already stated where I thought they should focus before it turned into partial quotes and ad hominems.
I know this is going to mess with your raw ego, but if you go back and actually read I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all. Only on how they should present it to try to continue funding. Without funding, which looks to be a huge issue moving forward, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever how they plan to develop it. If you want I can use smaller words from now on. Or grunts. Don't want to lose the audience.
I guess we can add the typical deflections and non sequiturs to the list though. Thanks for reminding me of the tactics again.
It doesn't really matter much to me. The defenders of the game have done a fine job of showing that I was probably right about the project not going anywhere or having a solid plan moving forward. That's usually how these things work out once the bunker mentality sets in.
We can talk about other things and keep this thread near the top though, since we already are anyways. I like continuity.
Lets see.
You say: "I already stated where I thought they should focus " Then you say "I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all"
You do realize.. at least one of those has to be wrong.
I claim that people don't really have the credentials to be telling anyone how to run a game company, because if they did, their ego would never let them shut up about it.
You come in and admit you don't have the creds to talk about how a game company should do things.
and somehow I am wrong and the bad guy.
Seems Legit.
I already stated where I thought they should focus on, get this because I will say it again only slow this time... PRESENTATION to get more INTEREST and POTENTIAL FUNDING. Did you catch the missing word this time?
(it's develop)
So hopefully you do now finally realize neither of my statements were wrong. You're arguing just to argue and clearly have no idea what I wrote about other than it wasn't gushing over the game or your boy Walsh.
So yeah, you're wrong. Legit.
"You're just arguing to argue..."
Shame I knew you were talking about Ungood, even before reading who you had quoted.
Yep and times have changed so not only do they have a professional QA team to test their game but they also bring in the community because as good as your QA team might be its always good to have a fresh set of eyes looking at your game.
They get a crapload of redundant reports or reports that might just say "hey this is broke" which takes time to sort but it also means you get some gems that will find the bugs, write about them in detail and even how to reproduce them which saves the team time.
Also you could do without the little jabs at anyone who doesn't agree with you. It makes you look like a child and undermines any good points your post might have, if any.
Look, you had your mind made up and set before you even came into this discussion. if I thought you actually came here for a respectful discussion where you were open to being wrong, and not be wrapped up in feeding your ego to be right at any and all costs, I'd dispense with the jabs, like I have with some other posters.
So, tell me why I should care what you think?
Really? I had my mind made up before I came here? So you’re telling people they aren’t qualified to comment on how a game studio is run but you’re qualified to tell me what I’m thinking before I think it? That’s quite a feat.
I am open to a discussion and if you read what I wrote I was discussing but also told you when you insult people it undermines your arguments no matter how good they are.
You should take your own advice about being open to being wrong and not trying to feed your ego since you spent how many pages arguing with how many people about how they are wrong and you are right in regards to agreeing to a terms of service and how it is legally binding.
No.. I never said anyone was wrong. I said they were assholes for endlessly shitting on a game and the game developer. This entire discussion thus far as is being driven by the people that want to attack the game it's supporters. If not for those deplorable people that just have to endless trash on this game and the developer, this whole discussion would have died on page 1.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
frostymug said I already stated where I thought they should focus on, get this because I will say it again only slow this time... PRESENTATION to get more INTEREST and POTENTIAL FUNDING. Did you catch the missing word this time?
Oh I see, you don't think building something quantifiable, like a presentation model to show investors is a part of the game development.
Ok well, thanks for clearing that up, your post makes total sense now. Nothing but respect that you had the foresight to mention this was from an uneducated point of view.
Thanks.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Yep and times have changed so not only do they have a professional QA team to test their game but they also bring in the community because as good as your QA team might be its always good to have a fresh set of eyes looking at your game.
They get a crapload of redundant reports or reports that might just say "hey this is broke" which takes time to sort but it also means you get some gems that will find the bugs, write about them in detail and even how to reproduce them which saves the team time.
Also you could do without the little jabs at anyone who doesn't agree with you. It makes you look like a child and undermines any good points your post might have, if any.
Look, you had your mind made up and set before you even came into this discussion. if I thought you actually came here for a respectful discussion where you were open to being wrong, and not be wrapped up in feeding your ego to be right at any and all costs, I'd dispense with the jabs, like I have with some other posters.
So, tell me why I should care what you think?
Really? I had my mind made up before I came here? So you’re telling people they aren’t qualified to comment on how a game studio is run but you’re qualified to tell me what I’m thinking before I think it? That’s quite a feat.
I am open to a discussion and if you read what I wrote I was discussing but also told you when you insult people it undermines your arguments no matter how good they are.
You should take your own advice about being open to being wrong and not trying to feed your ego since you spent how many pages arguing with how many people about how they are wrong and you are right in regards to agreeing to a terms of service and how it is legally binding.
No.. I never said anyone was wrong. I said they were assholes for endlessly shitting on a game and the game developer. This entire discussion thus far as is being driven by the people that want to attack the game it's supporters. If not for those deplorable people that just have to endless trash on this game and the developer, this whole discussion would have died on page 1.
I believe the word you’re looking for is criticism. People are allowed to have their opinions and if they are rooted in common sense then generally it’s acceptable irregardless of how much someone might not agree with it. Stating the studio might be in trouble because they decided to drop SpatialOS and layoff some staff is a good predication to make.
I’ve seen plenty of attacks from the supporters of the game against the people who are voicing their opinion so it’s kinda the pot calling the kettle black here in this case. And you have said someone was wrong, directly and indirectly, see page 5 in your response to @OrangeBoy.
This forums reminds me a lot of the SC forum where any negative opinion, no matter how well written, is shouted down by the few vocal supporters. So you’re right this thread would have died on page 1 if the supporters just ignored it.
If I exclude all whose inputs consists to a major part of building their arguments upon trying to discredit the other part, or questioning their mental capabilities, Im left with 3 people here worth reading. Its fine by me as its narrowing it down a lot, but at the same time take a break, imagine your counterpart has the same intellectual awareness and capability as yourself, only his/her opinion is different, then try to make an argument based on that.
In keeping with a core pillar of this game, how much would I have to pay you to get added to the "good list?"
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frostymug said I already stated where I thought they should focus on, get this because I will say it again only slow this time... PRESENTATION to get more INTEREST and POTENTIAL FUNDING. Did you catch the missing word this time?
Oh I see, you don't think building something quantifiable, like a presentation model to show investors is a part of the game development.
Ok well, thanks for clearing that up, your post makes total sense now. Nothing but respect that you had the foresight to mention this was from an uneducated point of view.
Thanks.
Three slides or less, a key rule in presentations. Caspian admitted he couldn't get investors to sit through his 8 page one.
Then again, perhaps he isn't as qualified to give presentations as some of us?
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Yep and times have changed so not only do they have a professional QA team to test their game but they also bring in the community because as good as your QA team might be its always good to have a fresh set of eyes looking at your game.
They get a crapload of redundant reports or reports that might just say "hey this is broke" which takes time to sort but it also means you get some gems that will find the bugs, write about them in detail and even how to reproduce them which saves the team time.
Also you could do without the little jabs at anyone who doesn't agree with you. It makes you look like a child and undermines any good points your post might have, if any.
Look, you had your mind made up and set before you even came into this discussion. if I thought you actually came here for a respectful discussion where you were open to being wrong, and not be wrapped up in feeding your ego to be right at any and all costs, I'd dispense with the jabs, like I have with some other posters.
So, tell me why I should care what you think?
Really? I had my mind made up before I came here? So you’re telling people they aren’t qualified to comment on how a game studio is run but you’re qualified to tell me what I’m thinking before I think it? That’s quite a feat.
I am open to a discussion and if you read what I wrote I was discussing but also told you when you insult people it undermines your arguments no matter how good they are.
You should take your own advice about being open to being wrong and not trying to feed your ego since you spent how many pages arguing with how many people about how they are wrong and you are right in regards to agreeing to a terms of service and how it is legally binding.
No.. I never said anyone was wrong. I said they were assholes for endlessly shitting on a game and the game developer. This entire discussion thus far as is being driven by the people that want to attack the game it's supporters. If not for those deplorable people that just have to endless trash on this game and the developer, this whole discussion would have died on page 1.
For a new guy that has not purchased the game you are very passionate in it's defense. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong if you CantPlayHockey.
My suggestion is that you focus less on calling other posters assholes though. Just stay on discussing the game and all will be well.
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For a new guy that has not purchased the game you are very passionate in it's defense. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong if you CantPlayHockey.
My suggestion is that you focus less on calling other posters assholes though. Just stay on discussing the game and all will be well.
I haven' actually defended the game itself tho. I simply stand by the fact that its a major douche move to continuously hound upon a game and attack those that want to support it.
Truth is, if not for you endless need to attack this game and its supporters and thus keeping this topic alive, It would have been dead before I joined the forums.
So kudos, its all your fault. Believe this or not, you can keep your opinion to yourself, the world won't end. Try sometime.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
For a new guy that has not purchased the game you are very passionate in it's defense. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong if you CantPlayHockey.
My suggestion is that you focus less on calling other posters assholes though. Just stay on discussing the game and all will be well.
I haven' actually defended the game itself tho. I simply stand by the fact that its a major douche move to continuously hound upon a game and attack those that want to support it.
Truth is, if not for you endless need to attack this game and its supporters and thus keeping this topic alive, It would have been dead before I joined the forums.
So kudos, its all your fault. Believe this or not, you can keep your opinion to yourself, the world won't end. Try sometime.
All this energy won't transfer into the game actually being worth a damn. Should try putting it towards something better
For a new guy that has not purchased the game you are very passionate in it's defense. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong if you CantPlayHockey.
My suggestion is that you focus less on calling other posters assholes though. Just stay on discussing the game and all will be well.
I haven' actually defended the game itself tho. I simply stand by the fact that its a major douche move to continuously hound upon a game and attack those that want to support it.
Truth is, if not for you endless need to attack this game and its supporters and thus keeping this topic alive, It would have been dead before I joined the forums.
So kudos, its all your fault. Believe this or not, you can keep your opinion to yourself, the world won't end. Try sometime.
That was kind of my point. Critics talk about the game or company. Fans talk about the game. Guys who CantPlayHockey just jump in threads to complain about people complaining and derail topics.
A little tweak here or there is fine.. I like to give the occasional gloat myself But this constant obsession with other posters to the point of calling them assholes is just not needed and detracts from the game conversation. I mean, I've surely been called worse and just shrug it off... but it's pretty juvenile and as we discussed in some of our very first interactions... going down the personal insult route is just a sign you've lost the argument.
How about we just all start fresh and focus on the topic which is the State of the Studio? I know they had a Q&A the other day. Has anyone scanned it for company updates?
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You know, really this is already a great PVP game and it doesn't even need gameplay. The rivers of salt is produces could preserve enough food to end world hunger.
You know, really this is already a great PVP game and it doesn't even need gameplay. The rivers of salt is produces could preserve enough food to end world hunger.
You're right!
I mean the amount of effort some people spend to disprove something because plenty of other people feel it has many p2w elements is pretty impressive.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Three slides or less, a key rule in presentations. Caspian admitted he couldn't get investors to sit through his 8 page one.
Then again, perhaps he isn't as qualified to give presentations as some of us?
PMP, Software Development Project Manager.
Ok. Now we can have a discussion.
Well, Since we both know that He's already giving the backers too much as it is (8 pages LOL) so what he needs to do is Keep it Simple, remove the excess talk about the game, ideology, and all that other BS that most people who roll bank don't really give a major shit about, and Pitch the ROI in a way that these people can understand.
Which brings up back to the Loot Boxes. and I hope since we are both professionals, that we both also caught this. Since by his own admission, his backers want loot boxes, that means, that the backers he is dealing with don't need to see "more game" they need to see "more money" from this game.
So while building the game and getting things further along is all well and good, and does a huge service to make his Crowfunded backers feel better and build their faith, its not what is going to get the sale to the backers he is looking for, and we both already knew that.
That's the state of the game.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
That was kind of my point. Critics talk about the game or company. Fans talk about the game. Guys who CantPlayHockey just jump in threads to complain about people complaining and derail topics.
nah man., you have been a vindictively attacking anyone that supports this game, calling them to be other posters, making up lies about them, in fact, lets not forget that you accused me of being someone else when I joined.. so.. you.. directly.. are the problem here.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
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I know this is going to mess with your raw ego, but if you go back and actually read I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all. Only on how they should present it to try to continue funding. Without funding, which looks to be a huge issue moving forward, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever how they plan to develop it. If you want I can use smaller words from now on. Or grunts. Don't want to lose the audience.
I guess we can add the typical deflections and non sequiturs to the list though. Thanks for reminding me of the tactics again.
It doesn't really matter much to me. The defenders of the game have done a fine job of showing that I was probably right about the project not going anywhere or having a solid plan moving forward. That's usually how these things work out once the bunker mentality sets in.
We can talk about other things and keep this thread near the top though, since we already are anyways. I like continuity.
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
They get a crapload of redundant reports or reports that might just say "hey this is broke" which takes time to sort but it also means you get some gems that will find the bugs, write about them in detail and even how to reproduce them which saves the team time.
Also you could do without the little jabs at anyone who doesn't agree with you. It makes you look like a child and undermines any good points your post might have, if any.
You say: "I already stated where I thought they should focus "
Then you say "I never gave any insight or suggestions on how I felt they should develop the game at all"
You do realize.. at least one of those has to be wrong.
I claim that people don't really have the credentials to be telling anyone how to run a game company, because if they did, their ego would never let them shut up about it.
You come in and admit you don't have the creds to talk about how a game company should do things.
and somehow I am wrong and the bad guy.
Seems Legit.
Look, you had your mind made up and set before you even came into this discussion. if I thought you actually came here for a respectful discussion where you were open to being wrong, and not be wrapped up in feeding your ego to be right at any and all costs, I'd dispense with the jabs, like I have with some other posters.
So, tell me why I should care what you think?
I am open to a discussion and if you read what I wrote I was discussing but also told you when you insult people it undermines your arguments no matter how good they are.
You should take your own advice about being open to being wrong and not trying to feed your ego since you spent how many pages arguing with how many people about how they are wrong and you are right in regards to agreeing to a terms of service and how it is legally binding.
(it's develop)
So hopefully you do now finally realize neither of my statements were wrong. You're arguing just to argue and clearly have no idea what I wrote about other than it wasn't gushing over the game or your boy Walsh.
So yeah, you're wrong. Legit.
Shame I knew you were talking about Ungood, even before reading who you had quoted.
Ok well, thanks for clearing that up, your post makes total sense now. Nothing but respect that you had the foresight to mention this was from an uneducated point of view.
Thanks.
I’ve seen plenty of attacks from the supporters of the game against the people who are voicing their opinion so it’s kinda the pot calling the kettle black here in this case. And you have said someone was wrong, directly and indirectly, see page 5 in your response to @OrangeBoy.
This forums reminds me a lot of the SC forum where any negative opinion, no matter how well written, is shouted down by the few vocal supporters. So you’re right this thread would have died on page 1 if the supporters just ignored it.
"Before posting" of course.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Then again, perhaps he isn't as qualified to give presentations as some of us?
PMP, Software Development Project Manager.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
My suggestion is that you focus less on calling other posters assholes though. Just stay on discussing the game and all will be well.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Truth is, if not for you endless need to attack this game and its supporters and thus keeping this topic alive, It would have been dead before I joined the forums.
So kudos, its all your fault. Believe this or not, you can keep your opinion to yourself, the world won't end. Try sometime.
A little tweak here or there is fine.. I like to give the occasional gloat myself
How about we just all start fresh and focus on the topic which is the State of the Studio? I know they had a Q&A the other day. Has anyone scanned it for company updates?
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
By saying that, does that label me as paranoid or did I learn to see through the Matrix coding?
I mean the amount of effort some people spend to disprove something because plenty of other people feel it has many p2w elements is pretty impressive.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Well, Since we both know that He's already giving the backers too much as it is (8 pages LOL) so what he needs to do is Keep it Simple, remove the excess talk about the game, ideology, and all that other BS that most people who roll bank don't really give a major shit about, and Pitch the ROI in a way that these people can understand.
Which brings up back to the Loot Boxes. and I hope since we are both professionals, that we both also caught this. Since by his own admission, his backers want loot boxes, that means, that the backers he is dealing with don't need to see "more game" they need to see "more money" from this game.
So while building the game and getting things further along is all well and good, and does a huge service to make his Crowfunded backers feel better and build their faith, its not what is going to get the sale to the backers he is looking for, and we both already knew that.
That's the state of the game.
That was me and the fact that you can't differ between us makes me think once more that you are an old friend of us.