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Fans Start Petition to Send Epic a Message of Love for the Doomed MOBA - Paragon - MMORPG.com

Paragon News - Fans of Paragon are hoping to send Epic Games a positive message of appreciation for Paragon through a Change.org petition to save the game. "Jude Dobbin" has posted a petition that has already garnered nearly 20,000 signatures to keep Paragon a living game for players. "Paragon is an amazing game that many of us as players have poured countless hours into" the petition reads, "I put forward the idea that Epic keep the servers for Paragon open even if they leave the game as is".

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Mikeha

I don't support closing down a game in favor of another. Sorry but that's just wrong.

Aeander

Damn. The petition got more signatures than the game has players.

etharn

Mikeha said:

I don't support closing down a game in favor of another. Sorry but that's just wrong.

Happens all the time.

Mikeha

etharn said:

Mikeha said:

I don't support closing down a game in favor of another. Sorry but that's just wrong.

Happens all the time.

I don't support it all the time. 

Ozmodan

When you make a product that does not have the features that gamers enjoy, this happens.

Sorry to the people who liked the game, but games like this need a decent playerbase to actually pay for it.

Kajidourden

*shrug*

If it was good enough it would retain it's playerbase enough to be worth their time. Propping up a failure is only prolonging the inevitable.

Hashbrick

People always try to put heart in business, if it's not making any money it has to go.  That's just simple economics.

sycogenesis

Epic doesn't care they shut the game down due to a corp greed scheme for BR fuck them. any product from now if it doesn't give them overnight bank they aren't fking with it anymore. No moba gets overnight succsess nor gets big succsess until it gets 8in least 2 years with a ranked and decent

Aeander

sycogenesis said:

Epic doesn't care they shut the game down due to a corp greed scheme for BR fuck them. any product from now if it doesn't give them overnight bank they aren't fking with it anymore. No moba gets overnight succsess nor gets big succsess until it gets 8in least 2 years with a ranked and decent

Overnight? Paragon had almost 2 years and multiple major game overhauls to prove itself. 

Mikeha

Correct me if I am wrong but Paragon is not doing bad, they just want to shift everything they have to Fortnite because its doing much better.

Hashbrick

Mikeha said:

Correct me if I am wrong but Paragon is not doing bad, they just want to shift everything they have to Fortnite because its doing much better.

Tell me what you would do as a business, put resources and money into a project barely making money with a small community or dump everything in your cash cow overflowing with money?

Scot

Hashbrick said:

Mikeha said:

Correct me if I am wrong but Paragon is not doing bad, they just want to shift everything they have to Fortnite because its doing much better.

Tell me what you would do as a business, put resources and money into a project barely making money with a small community or dump everything in your cash cow overflowing with money?

This is all about the money, there was a time when gaming companies put other values first, but now they might as well be selling you ice cream or detergent. And are we to believe a BR zone could not have been created for Paragon? There might be lore issues, but what gaming company takes any notice of lore these days?

Mikeha

Hashbrick said:

Mikeha said:

Correct me if I am wrong but Paragon is not doing bad, they just want to shift everything they have to Fortnite because its doing much better.

Tell me what you would do as a business, put resources and money into a project barely making money with a small community or dump everything in your cash cow overflowing with money?

Did you read my post? 

GeezerGamer

Hey "fans"......
Epic doesn't want your "love". They want your "$$$"
You should have been sending that "message" from the beginning.

postlarval

Scot said:

...there was a time when gaming companies put other values first, ....

No there hasn’t. *sigh* Gamers and the little fantasy worlds they live in.

Panther2103

Honestly, I played a couple hundred hours of Paragon, and I loved the game. I don't agree with the shutdown just because I really liked it but if it wasn't performing as expected and their other game was than it makes perfect sense. I really like the fact that they offered refunds on every purchase made on any console.

tawess

Here is the thing.

Back in the days of "pump n dump" game productions games could be left on their own. But today when you have liver servers and a culture that demands that games get updates...

The bar for how much it will cost to keep things alive have rised. Heck i remeber how EA used to simply shut down the online part of their games once it had some mileage on it.

Paragon had no offline part that could live on. So once the live part is bust.. that is it.. game is dead.

Hashbrick

Mikeha said:

Hashbrick said:

Mikeha said:

Correct me if I am wrong but Paragon is not doing bad, they just want to shift everything they have to Fortnite because its doing much better.

Tell me what you would do as a business, put resources and money into a project barely making money with a small community or dump everything in your cash cow overflowing with money?

Did you read my post? 

I did, you said you don't support game closing just because of another game with more traction.  The question still stands, if you were a business man what choice would you make?

Sinaku

The support should have been shown before the game was announced it was being shut down, not after. We don't really get to pick and choose when to support something, and then be mad when funding is pulled due to no one playing.

rojoArcueid

Sinaku said:

The support should have been shown before the game was announced it was being shut down, not after. We don't really get to pick and choose when to support something, and then be mad when funding is pulled due to no one playing.

What about the ones who did support it before the announcement? we don't count? unfortunately in Epic's eyes we don't. I doubt they change their minds because Paragon will not bring them pubg's money like FN is doing. Another proof that trends are all that matter in gaming now, specially in modern gaming (games as a service).

FlyByKnight

First World Issues. XD

GeezerGamer

Scot said:

Hashbrick said:

Mikeha said:

Correct me if I am wrong but Paragon is not doing bad, they just want to shift everything they have to Fortnite because its doing much better.

Tell me what you would do as a business, put resources and money into a project barely making money with a small community or dump everything in your cash cow overflowing with money?

This is all about the money, there was a time when gaming companies put other values first, but now they might as well be selling you ice cream or detergent. And are we to believe a BR zone could not have been created for Paragon? There might be lore issues, but what gaming company takes any notice of lore these days?

Look at the Video Game industry in the early 80s.

Specifically the Atari2600 game ET.

In a nutshell, all the initial positive response and success for the release of the game were false. 

Consumers didn't like it. It was an IP cash grab. Just like what we see today with EA and Star Wars. Poor to Mediocre games being carried by large IPs

That was in Dec. 1982. In 1983, they were burring ET cartridges of the game in landfills because they couldn't sell them. This was all part of the "Atari Shock" console game industry crash of 1983.

What we see today is even worse. Especially within this genre.

I guess this stuff is cyclical. But since consoles are a relatively new industry, we haven't seen it enough times yet.

cheyane

I suppose the people who supported this game forgot to play it and it stopped generating revenue. If you want your games to continue make sure you support them otherwise why should developers keep them open.

jgDuffay

see loads of posts about corp greed and epic wanting your $$, but what i heard yesterday was that they compensated all the money people had used in paragon ? at least that is better than just shutting down. i might be wrong here, that's just what a friend told me

Sovrath

Mikeha said:

Correct me if I am wrong but Paragon is not doing bad, they just want to shift everything they have to Fortnite because its doing much better.

er, and?

I appreciate that that you have some sort of "sense of fairness" but games are a business. They've always been a business even if the demands of being a business haven't always put pressure on their developers/studios.

Moving people from an "ok" money maker to a great money maker not only makes good business sense but it could prove to be a boon to those people who are being moved.

Working on an "ok" money maker might soon prove to be "working on a game that doesn't make money" and then the layoffs begin.

I'm sure the developers being moved are going to breather a sigh of relief that they have better job security going forward.