Hey look! It's another news STORY and INFORMATION about a game that people used to play and might be interested to read about!
Information is power and the intelligence of our readers proves that they absolutely understood what this "project" was. Kudos to our discerning readers. You always amaze me.
So let me get this straight. You supply facts and information and then I have to use critical thinking skills to formulate my own sound judgement? Why are you guy forcing me to grind and do stuff? Shouldn't you be telling me what to think?
Skipping the fluff on some of the more cerebral quests, aka - not a fetch or kill quest, can really shaft you if you aren't lucky. Read the fluff !
(LoL)
Hey look! It's another news STORY and INFORMATION about a game that people used to play and might be interested to read about!
Information is power and the intelligence of our readers proves that they absolutely understood what this "project" was. Kudos to our discerning readers. You always amaze me.
So let me get this straight. You supply facts and information and then I have to use critical thinking skills to formulate my own sound judgement? Why are you guy forcing me to grind and do stuff? Shouldn't you be telling me what to think?
Just follow the big yellow "?",then markers will show up on your map telling you exactly where to go.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I can't believe some of these comments are happening. It's amazing in the information era--where you can google, read and learn about almost anything--not only we have trouble understanding concepts and definitions, but we insist on our mistakes as well.
As a friend once said it best; ignorance is the choice not to know.
Let's put it this way , shall we ?
I can't believe mmorpg.com some of these comments are happening. It's amazing in the information era--where you can google, read and learn about almost anything--not only we have trouble understanding concepts and definitions, but we insist on our mistakes as well.didn't do their job properly.
As a friend once said it best; ignorance is the choice not to know.
They were the ones showing us this News. If you put us, the readers, googling any piece of News, information, etc from mmorpg.com, for additional info, then why bother visiting mmorpg.com in the first place?
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
uhm WRONG, there is an intrinsic responsibility that is part of providing news "to verify its actual real information". that is what news actually means its real verified unbiased facts or that is what it was supposed to mean before liberals hijacked the industry and turned it into a propaganda machine. Good try though lol.
There is something deeply entertaining in you calling the news a liberal propaganda machine in a thread where you are arguing against people being able to do their own due diligence and make their own decision on a neutral information piece.
You did vote with trumphy, didn't you ?
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Not sure where you gathered that I voted with "trumphy" based on that, but given that and the fact that you obviously need to be spoonfed information and instructions on how to act on it, I can only assume coherent, independent thought puts you out of your element so I'll just wish you good luck in life.
ps. Yes, I am telling you that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter. As a news site which wrote and did no kind of promotion whatsoever rather than providing completely neutral information on it.
Can you show where any promotion was made at all? They just provided information on it. No different than if they mentioned X game was on sale on Steam Early Access. In no way does that obligate me to buy it. I like information myself, but if you prefer to waltz through life ignorant, more power to you. You're apparently off to a roaring start.
I hope you have a great day.
No, wait. I insist that you have a great day. Act accordingly. I have other sheep to tend to.
Yes, the legitimacy of the “company” or “school” behind this is, well non existant. They’re not legitimate. They sold fake diplomas, there is no actual school.
If you enjoy giving money to scam artists however, you should immediately go donate to their campaign."
That is the second comment I saw on that page I
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
uhm WRONG, there is an intrinsic responsibility that is part of providing news "to verify its actual real information". that is what news actually means its real verified unbiased facts or that is what it was supposed to mean before liberals hijacked the industry and turned it into a propaganda machine. Good try though lol.
There is something deeply entertaining in you calling the news a liberal propaganda machine in a thread where you are arguing against people being able to do their own due diligence and make their own decision on a neutral information piece.
You did vote with trumphy, didn't you ?
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Ok, so a couple of observations.
1) Are you suggesting that for every new crowdfunding initiative that is reported on, the writer should be performing detailed background searches, Google map views of their homes, etc.? That's effectively what you're saying. I never heard you have any problem with any other report of a new crowdfunding initiative before this one, and they reported no more or less detail on any other project.
2) Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that journalists should be making a subjective opinion about products instead of remaining neutral and simply providing information. It's funny because it seems like any time journalists provide a subjective opinion about something, especially on this site, they are shills.
3) You actually CAN promote things without all the information. Watch CNN for like a day and you'll see it happen multiple times. This is what you might refer to as a developing story. So you attempt to break the story first and then you update it with information as it's available. That's pretty much how news works these days. MMORPG was actually fully aligned with that idea and reported an update as the information was available. If news agencies waited until all the information was available before reporting on something, it would be the end of journalism. Period!
Yes, the legitimacy of the “company” or “school” behind this is, well non existant. They’re not legitimate. They sold fake diplomas, there is no actual school.
If you enjoy giving money to scam artists however, you should immediately go donate to their campaign."
That is the second comment I saw on that page I
They're not crying about MassivelyOP posting the article, like the babies on this site are.
uhm WRONG, there is an intrinsic responsibility that is part of providing news "to verify its actual real information". that is what news actually means its real verified unbiased facts or that is what it was supposed to mean before liberals hijacked the industry and turned it into a propaganda machine. Good try though lol.
There is something deeply entertaining in you calling the news a liberal propaganda machine in a thread where you are arguing against people being able to do their own due diligence and make their own decision on a neutral information piece.
You did vote with trumphy, didn't you ?
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Ok, so a couple of observations.
1) Are you suggesting that for every new crowdfunding initiative that is reported on, the writer should be performing detailed background searches, Google map views of their homes, etc.? That's effectively what you're saying. I never heard you have any problem with any other report of a new crowdfunding initiative before this one, and they reported no more or less detail on any other project.
2) Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that journalists should be making a subjective opinion about products instead of remaining neutral and simply providing information. It's funny because it seems like any time journalists provide a subjective opinion about something, especially on this site, they are shills.
3) You actually CAN promote things without all the information. Watch CNN for like a day and you'll see it happen multiple times. This is what you might refer to as a developing story. So you attempt to break the story first and then you update it with information as it's available. That's pretty much how news works these days. MMORPG was actually fully aligned with that idea and reported an update as the information was available. If news agencies waited until all the information was available before reporting on something, it would be the end of journalism. Period!
Giving exemples, such as CNN or other News sites/channels , that hey also report News with not much info , is pathetic. So from your logic, if one is doing it, then is fine for the rest of sites to do it heh? Weak thinking here.
You are defending "not informed News" at his best it seems. I am done with naive and weak mentality I just saw on mmorpg.com this past day. I will always comment on things I don't like.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
uhm WRONG, there is an intrinsic responsibility that is part of providing news "to verify its actual real information". that is what news actually means its real verified unbiased facts or that is what it was supposed to mean before liberals hijacked the industry and turned it into a propaganda machine. Good try though lol.
There is something deeply entertaining in you calling the news a liberal propaganda machine in a thread where you are arguing against people being able to do their own due diligence and make their own decision on a neutral information piece.
You did vote with trumphy, didn't you ?
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Ok, so a couple of observations.
1) Are you suggesting that for every new crowdfunding initiative that is reported on, the writer should be performing detailed background searches, Google map views of their homes, etc.? That's effectively what you're saying. I never heard you have any problem with any other report of a new crowdfunding initiative before this one, and they reported no more or less detail on any other project.
2) Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that journalists should be making a subjective opinion about products instead of remaining neutral and simply providing information. It's funny because it seems like any time journalists provide a subjective opinion about something, especially on this site, they are shills.
3) You actually CAN promote things without all the information. Watch CNN for like a day and you'll see it happen multiple times. This is what you might refer to as a developing story. So you attempt to break the story first and then you update it with information as it's available. That's pretty much how news works these days. MMORPG was actually fully aligned with that idea and reported an update as the information was available. If news agencies waited until all the information was available before reporting on something, it would be the end of journalism. Period!
Giving exemples, such as CNN or other News sites/channels , that hey also report News with not much info , is pathetic. So from your logic, if one is doing it, then is fine for the rest of sites to do it heh? Weak thinking here.
You are defending "not informed News" at his best it seems. I am done with naive and weak mentality I just saw on mmorpg.com this past day. I will always comment on things I don't like.
This is MMO news, not deep investigative journalism. Save your tears for a good cause.
uhm WRONG, there is an intrinsic responsibility that is part of providing news "to verify its actual real information". that is what news actually means its real verified unbiased facts or that is what it was supposed to mean before liberals hijacked the industry and turned it into a propaganda machine. Good try though lol.
There is something deeply entertaining in you calling the news a liberal propaganda machine in a thread where you are arguing against people being able to do their own due diligence and make their own decision on a neutral information piece.
You did vote with trumphy, didn't you ?
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Ok, so a couple of observations.
1) Are you suggesting that for every new crowdfunding initiative that is reported on, the writer should be performing detailed background searches, Google map views of their homes, etc.? That's effectively what you're saying. I never heard you have any problem with any other report of a new crowdfunding initiative before this one, and they reported no more or less detail on any other project.
2) Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that journalists should be making a subjective opinion about products instead of remaining neutral and simply providing information. It's funny because it seems like any time journalists provide a subjective opinion about something, especially on this site, they are shills.
3) You actually CAN promote things without all the information. Watch CNN for like a day and you'll see it happen multiple times. This is what you might refer to as a developing story. So you attempt to break the story first and then you update it with information as it's available. That's pretty much how news works these days. MMORPG was actually fully aligned with that idea and reported an update as the information was available. If news agencies waited until all the information was available before reporting on something, it would be the end of journalism. Period!
Giving exemples, such as CNN or other News sites/channels , that hey also report News with not much info , is pathetic. So from your logic, if one is doing it, then is fine for the rest of sites to do it heh? Weak thinking here.
You are defending "not informed News" at his best it seems. I am done with naive and weak mentality I just saw on mmorpg.com this past day. I will always comment on things I don't like.
This is MMO news, not deep investigative journalism. Save your tears for a good cause.
I am not tearing, in fact I add my voice to a scam. MMO news site? Then , who did mmorpg.com quoted in this article? Right, another MMO News site who actually did some investigation on a scam.
You can't post news without investigation. And .. I am pretty sure that mmorpg.com can be in the journalism category. Hence, investigating News they post.
People often tend to believe "is fine", when actually is not. Because of this, people might of get scammed. People who follows mmorpg.com as their primary News site and who take it as good News posted here.
But is fine. However not so for people who might got scammed.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy? Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
You are defending "not informed News" at his best it seems. I am done with naive and weak mentality I just saw on mmorpg.com this past day. I will always comment on things I don't like.
I would say the weak thinking here is someone making a mountain out of a mole hill. So fretful when it doesn't have to be. But "whatever" glad you feel comfortable commenting on things you don't like.
I just pity the person who tells another person this news only to have you overhear ...
person 1: Did you hear? Someone is trying to buy the assets of Marvel Heroes. person 2: Really? That's great. Though I doubt they'll get it. person 1: True but it will be interesting to see how that turns out IceAge: OMG why are you spreading that information?!?!?! Don't you know that this isn't verified and they are probably scammers, you should know better. person 1: I don't know, I just heard it, it's no big deal ... IceAge: 20 minute lecture on being responsible on what you say ...
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uhm WRONG, there is an intrinsic responsibility that is part of providing news "to verify its actual real information". that is what news actually means its real verified unbiased facts or that is what it was supposed to mean before liberals hijacked the industry and turned it into a propaganda machine. Good try though lol.
There is something deeply entertaining in you calling the news a liberal propaganda machine in a thread where you are arguing against people being able to do their own due diligence and make their own decision on a neutral information piece.
You did vote with trumphy, didn't you ?
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Ok, so a couple of observations.
1) Are you suggesting that for every new crowdfunding initiative that is reported on, the writer should be performing detailed background searches, Google map views of their homes, etc.? That's effectively what you're saying. I never heard you have any problem with any other report of a new crowdfunding initiative before this one, and they reported no more or less detail on any other project.
2) Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that journalists should be making a subjective opinion about products instead of remaining neutral and simply providing information. It's funny because it seems like any time journalists provide a subjective opinion about something, especially on this site, they are shills.
3) You actually CAN promote things without all the information. Watch CNN for like a day and you'll see it happen multiple times. This is what you might refer to as a developing story. So you attempt to break the story first and then you update it with information as it's available. That's pretty much how news works these days. MMORPG was actually fully aligned with that idea and reported an update as the information was available. If news agencies waited until all the information was available before reporting on something, it would be the end of journalism. Period!
Giving exemples, such as CNN or other News sites/channels , that hey also report News with not much info , is pathetic. So from your logic, if one is doing it, then is fine for the rest of sites to do it heh? Weak thinking here.
You are defending "not informed News" at his best it seems. I am done with naive and weak mentality I just saw on mmorpg.com this past day. I will always comment on things I don't like.
Ok, how about this then. What is indiegogo's responsibility in all of this? You are saying that it's the news site who is responsible for inspecting the validity of any crowdfunding campaign. However, since that campaign is targeted at consumers, then should the crowdfunding site not be the one who is responsible for vetting their campaigns for scams?
I think that you're somewhat killing the messenger here. The question you really need to ask yourself is, do you feel like, within reason, any project listed on a crowdfunding site, accepting your money, should have been vetted prior to launch? I'm sorry, but there should be a reasonable expectation of good will with these campaigns, so why should a news site expect any less than a consumer?
Can we just all agree to disagree with IceAge and move on with our lives?
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
I appreciate the 'news' article. I like laughing at ridiculous scam efforts.
I also understand the fight for 'good' journalism. I feel the efforts would be better suited for Yahoo news ,newsweek, Huffpo, or Fox,..or the bigger more mainstream outlets as opposed to a gaming site.
The most concerning thing to me about the MMO Fallout article is the mention of a movement to revert a game to public domain when it shuts down. That's put my mind on overdrive.
I want to address this bit because I think there is an important distinction here.
The legislation that I quote in the article and that the company is talking about is unrelated to public domain. Parts of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act deal with criminalizing the circumvention of copyright protection tools, for instance bypassing a key check or server authentication. For a long time, this meant that if a company shut its authentication servers down, customers were out of luck.
A few years back, the DMCA rules were changed to exempt defunct video games. This doesn't put the games in the public domain or relinquish the company's ownership of them, it offers limited legal protection to people cracking games that have been rendered unplayable due to, for instance, CD authentication servers no longer being online. This exemption only extended to single player games, did not cover online servers, and there has been a push to expand that exemption to allow for entities to bypass restrictions and bring online servers for defunct online games and MMOs.
It doesn't revoke ownership of said property, but it essentially allows for protection regarding products that the rights holder has shown no interest in supporting (and thus would have no damages to claim), or is no longer around to support. To put it in perspective for Marvel Heroes for example, if this exemption gets pushed through a group would be protected should they decide to create a Marvel Heroes private server. This would not, however, give them the rights to develop new content or profit off of said game.
The instance about public domain in my piece was a backup plan noted in the Indiegogo Campaign that if the attempt to secure the Marvel license fell through, that the Marvel licensed heroes would be replaced by old characters that are already in the Public Domain and thus could be added without licensing issues.
I definitely didn't express my ideas very well in that post. I stand (or rather, sit) corrected.
My point was that the parties involved in supporting this law, regarding Marvel Heroes, could lead to attempts to leverage this law into a situation where they, this questionable group, would be able to circumvent the decision (of the IP holders) to shut this game down and restore a functional game. One of the aspects of IP ownership is being able to control how and when that property is used. Disney/Marvel made that decision. This new organization seeks to subvert that decision, and possibly resume service of Marvel Heroes. This exemption to the DMCA laws seems to be a first step towards unraveling existing IP laws.
How is a company being able to operate Marvel Heroes without permission of Disney/Marvel any different via a technical legal loophole any different from putting the images and likenesses into public domain? Even if they replace the Marvel images with other non-Marvel images, the public likely to play this new version will know that The Smulk is really The Hulk. I don't see a substantial difference in the effect.
Maybe it would stand under parody and fair use laws, but at some point the laws concerning plagiarism would have to come into effect, I'd think. Replacing the protected images with unprotected images might be simple, but the abilities and powers might also need to be changed to distinguish the Marvel characters' descriptions from the replacement characters. (Character descriptions can also be considered part of the IP). I'd think that might be a lot more work than expected.
Anyway, a good discussion for the lawyers.
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Skipping the fluff on some of the more cerebral quests, aka - not a fetch or kill quest, can really shaft you if you aren't lucky. Read the fluff !
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Just follow the big yellow "?",then markers will show up on your map telling you exactly where to go.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I can't believe mmorpg.com some of these comments are happening. It's amazing in the information era--where you can google, read and learn about almost anything--not only we have trouble understanding concepts and definitions, but we insist on our mistakes as well. didn't do their job properly.
As a friend once said it best; ignorance is the choice not to know.
They were the ones showing us this News. If you put us, the readers, googling any piece of News, information, etc from mmorpg.com, for additional info, then why bother visiting mmorpg.com in the first place?
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
Is like this scam, is showing up , and mmorpg.com ( not knowing in the first place that is a scam ) is passively making Advertising to the said scam, saying "Look! Someone has this product." and leave it like that, with no additional information about that "product" ( they could of dig to search for more information but hence, passively ).
Now , moving forward , there were some people from mmorpg.com "buying" into that News and actually bought the product. They then learn that this "product" was a scam. Now, are you telling me that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter? As a News site which wrote and passively promoted that News? Your ignorance is big on this one.
You can't promote a product without digging about it. Period!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
ps. Yes, I am telling you that mmorpg.com is held no responsibility with this matter. As a news site which wrote and did no kind of promotion whatsoever rather than providing completely neutral information on it.
Can you show where any promotion was made at all? They just provided information on it. No different than if they mentioned X game was on sale on Steam Early Access. In no way does that obligate me to buy it. I like information myself, but if you prefer to waltz through life ignorant, more power to you. You're apparently off to a roaring start.
I hope you have a great day.
No, wait. I insist that you have a great day. Act accordingly. I have other sheep to tend to.
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Yes, the legitimacy of the “company” or “school” behind this is, well non existant. They’re not legitimate. They sold fake diplomas, there is no actual school.
If you enjoy giving money to scam artists however, you should immediately go donate to their campaign."
That is the second comment I saw on that page I
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
Ok, so a couple of observations.
1) Are you suggesting that for every new crowdfunding initiative that is reported on, the writer should be performing detailed background searches, Google map views of their homes, etc.? That's effectively what you're saying. I never heard you have any problem with any other report of a new crowdfunding initiative before this one, and they reported no more or less detail on any other project.
2) Secondly, you seem to be suggesting that journalists should be making a subjective opinion about products instead of remaining neutral and simply providing information. It's funny because it seems like any time journalists provide a subjective opinion about something, especially on this site, they are shills.
3) You actually CAN promote things without all the information. Watch CNN for like a day and you'll see it happen multiple times. This is what you might refer to as a developing story. So you attempt to break the story first and then you update it with information as it's available. That's pretty much how news works these days. MMORPG was actually fully aligned with that idea and reported an update as the information was available. If news agencies waited until all the information was available before reporting on something, it would be the end of journalism. Period!
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You are defending "not informed News" at his best it seems. I am done with naive and weak mentality I just saw on mmorpg.com this past day. I will always comment on things I don't like.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
Can we just have a "Suzie Says its Bad" sticker, stuck on the graphic that goes with the story.
You can't post news without investigation. And .. I am pretty sure that mmorpg.com can be in the journalism category. Hence, investigating News they post.
People often tend to believe "is fine", when actually is not. Because of this, people might of get scammed. People who follows mmorpg.com as their primary News site and who take it as good News posted here.
But is fine. However not so for people who might got scammed.
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!
I just pity the person who tells another person this news only to have you overhear ...
person 1: Did you hear? Someone is trying to buy the assets of Marvel Heroes.
person 2: Really? That's great. Though I doubt they'll get it.
person 1: True but it will be interesting to see how that turns out
IceAge: OMG why are you spreading that information?!?!?! Don't you know that this isn't verified and they are probably scammers, you should know better.
person 1: I don't know, I just heard it, it's no big deal ...
IceAge: 20 minute lecture on being responsible on what you say ...
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Ok, how about this then. What is indiegogo's responsibility in all of this? You are saying that it's the news site who is responsible for inspecting the validity of any crowdfunding campaign. However, since that campaign is targeted at consumers, then should the crowdfunding site not be the one who is responsible for vetting their campaigns for scams?
I think that you're somewhat killing the messenger here. The question you really need to ask yourself is, do you feel like, within reason, any project listed on a crowdfunding site, accepting your money, should have been vetted prior to launch? I'm sorry, but there should be a reasonable expectation of good will with these campaigns, so why should a news site expect any less than a consumer?
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Ummmmmm, I'm sorry, did the Internet just evolve in the last 10 minutes or something?
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I also understand the fight for 'good' journalism. I feel the efforts would be better suited for Yahoo news ,newsweek, Huffpo, or Fox,..or the bigger more mainstream outlets as opposed to a gaming site.
My point was that the parties involved in supporting this law, regarding Marvel Heroes, could lead to attempts to leverage this law into a situation where they, this questionable group, would be able to circumvent the decision (of the IP holders) to shut this game down and restore a functional game. One of the aspects of IP ownership is being able to control how and when that property is used. Disney/Marvel made that decision. This new organization seeks to subvert that decision, and possibly resume service of Marvel Heroes. This exemption to the DMCA laws seems to be a first step towards unraveling existing IP laws.
How is a company being able to operate Marvel Heroes without permission of Disney/Marvel any different via a technical legal loophole any different from putting the images and likenesses into public domain? Even if they replace the Marvel images with other non-Marvel images, the public likely to play this new version will know that The Smulk is really The Hulk. I don't see a substantial difference in the effect.
Maybe it would stand under parody and fair use laws, but at some point the laws concerning plagiarism would have to come into effect, I'd think. Replacing the protected images with unprotected images might be simple, but the abilities and powers might also need to be changed to distinguish the Marvel characters' descriptions from the replacement characters. (Character descriptions can also be considered part of the IP). I'd think that might be a lot more work than expected.
Anyway, a good discussion for the lawyers.
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