People are just trying to get money doing what they love, and let's face it, MMORPG news is trickling in slower and slower.
This guy is a whiny basement dweller taking up his plastic sword for a cause that isn't even an issue. Don't like the channel, don't subscribe to it, don't visit the website. Problem solved, nothing lost, nothing gained.
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I will leave this here from 2014 -- and to say that the MMO industry has gotten even more scarce in terms of news in the intervening 4 years is to understate things greatly, hence the further inclusion of MOBAs, multiplayer shooters, battle royale games and survival games to name a few.
"Over the next several years, something will be very apparent to the MMORPG faithful: MMORPGs will be released that aren't officially being called MMORPGs by their developers and publishers. Why? Because someone, somewhere, with all their marketing research and statistical analysis decided that "MMORPG" pretty much means World of Warcraft, nerds in the basement, and incidentally - the guy from South Park's beloved WoW episode.
The other side is that this means the genre's almost outgrown itself. More and more games are incorporating MMO-like features and online play into their core design. You'll have Bungie and Ubisoft claim often enough that Destiny or The Division "aren't really" MMOs. And perhaps, they're right. Destiny won't be a fully-on-all-the-time shared world in that you can't get away from other people. It has a core single-player narrative, but events happen in the massive game world that lead you into interacting and playing alongside others... and that almost sounds like the ideal theme park MMO, doesn't it?"
I got crucified on this site for suggesting that games like Division or Destiny are MMO because it didn't fit their OLD definition of MMO.
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That guy is an idiot. Watched this video a bit ago...he is just throwing baseless accusations at sites like this one when he doesn't understand that these sites have ALWAYS covered more then just MMOs. They also all primarily look at MMO news even with that fact and cover news no other gaming sites cover in regards to MMOs. He is an unprofessional fool who is just attacking people because he is a jealous kid who can't accomplish even 1/100th of what any of these sites have accomplished.
There was a time when this website didn't have gamer peripherals and non-mmo news. Covering non-mmorpg news on a site named mmorpg.com and saying that "things change" is a cop out. These sites are directly responsible for why people believe that games like destiny are mmorpgs and allow the misconception to propagate. There's no journalistic integrity at all when they are allowed to alter the terms to suit themselves. Instead of admitting and creating a discourse on how bad things are in the mmorpg industry they just ignore it and create the illusion that things are thriving. There have been countless true mmorpgs that never got a chance because they never had the populations, populations that were diverted by these news sites to games that aren't even mmorpgs because of the attention these sites brought to these non-mmorpg games. The video in question may be sensationalizing things but the facts are there and these sites are not blameless for the current state of the industry. Instead of supporting small mmorpg projects they rather support the big companies that produce online games and call them mmorpgs despite the fact they are not.
About 5:30 he tries to make the case that the "Neverwinter MMO isn't a proper MMO". What?
He says the word MMO dozens of times but ....
Except if its designed as he said, and as per the below..its not an MMO....
It's not an MMO in the sense that there aren't zones with hundreds-and-hundreds of people. You are not fighting for spawns. There's a very strong storyline throughout the game. So it's more of a story-based game closer to things like Dragon Age or Oblivion, which we really try to follow.
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I will leave this here from 2014 -- and to say that the MMO industry has gotten even more scarce in terms of news in the intervening 4 years is to understate things greatly, hence the further inclusion of MOBAs, multiplayer shooters, battle royale games and survival games to name a few.
"Over the next several years, something will be very apparent to the MMORPG faithful: MMORPGs will be released that aren't officially being called MMORPGs by their developers and publishers. Why? Because someone, somewhere, with all their marketing research and statistical analysis decided that "MMORPG" pretty much means World of Warcraft, nerds in the basement, and incidentally - the guy from South Park's beloved WoW episode.
The other side is that this means the genre's almost outgrown itself. More and more games are incorporating MMO-like features and online play into their core design. You'll have Bungie and Ubisoft claim often enough that Destiny or The Division "aren't really" MMOs. And perhaps, they're right. Destiny won't be a fully-on-all-the-time shared world in that you can't get away from other people. It has a core single-player narrative, but events happen in the massive game world that lead you into interacting and playing alongside others... and that almost sounds like the ideal theme park MMO, doesn't it?"
I got crucified on this site for suggesting that games like Division or Destiny are MMO because it didn't fit their OLD definition of MMO.
Good thing we no longer use the "old definitions" of what a dog or cat is....
Wait, we do....same for MMORPGS. No need to change what is easily understood.
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There was a time when this website didn't have gamer peripherals and non-mmo news. Covering non-mmorpg news on a site named mmorpg.com and saying that "things change" is a cop out. These sites are directly responsible for why people believe that games like destiny are mmorpgs and allow the misconception to propagate. There's no journalistic integrity at all when they are allowed to alter the terms to suit themselves. Instead of admitting and creating a discourse on how bad things are in the mmorpg industry they just ignore it and create the illusion that things are thriving. There have been countless true mmorpgs that never got a chance because they never had the populations, populations that were diverted by these news sites to games that aren't even mmorpgs because of the attention these sites brought to these non-mmorpg games. The video in question may be sensationalizing things but the facts are there and these sites are not blameless for the current state of the industry. Instead of supporting small mmorpg projects they rather support the big companies that produce online games and call them mmorpgs despite the fact they are not.
On the one hand it's truly sad how much these fake mmo sites have watered down the acronym.
On the other hand mmo devs have delivered such garbage for the past decade, these sites literally have nothing to talk about. So it's either throw in the towel or pretend Diablo 3 news belongs here until something decent arrives.
This all seems like a pointless argument. Out of all the mmo sites that are out there this is HANDS DOWN, the best one, its clean, laid out neatly. The community here for what I have seen is very kind and seems slightly tight.
People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....
There was a time when this website didn't have gamer peripherals and non-mmo news. Covering non-mmorpg news on a site named mmorpg.com and saying that "things change" is a cop out. These sites are directly responsible for why people believe that games like destiny are mmorpgs and allow the misconception to propagate. There's no journalistic integrity at all when they are allowed to alter the terms to suit themselves. Instead of admitting and creating a discourse on how bad things are in the mmorpg industry they just ignore it and create the illusion that things are thriving. There have been countless true mmorpgs that never got a chance because they never had the populations, populations that were diverted by these news sites to games that aren't even mmorpgs because of the attention these sites brought to these non-mmorpg games. The video in question may be sensationalizing things but the facts are there and these sites are not blameless for the current state of the industry. Instead of supporting small mmorpg projects they rather support the big companies that produce online games and call them mmorpgs despite the fact they are not.
First post and this guy already gets it.
Not at all.
Take a TV channel named after a particular genre. Let's call it... American Movie Classics (it could easily be any of another 50+ similar type channels). For about 20 years it focused on... classic movies. Over the last decade+ it has expanded from that.. to include more modern programming... as well as original TV shows.
A check of their listings today would show... some classics like Titanic and The Three Stooges. It also would show things like "Comic Book Men" and "McMaffia".
If people who watch that channel start to call "Comic Book Men" and "McMaffia" classic American movies.. that would hardly be the channel's fault. It would be because the viewers were morons.
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There was a time when this website didn't have gamer peripherals and non-mmo news. Covering non-mmorpg news on a site named mmorpg.com and saying that "things change" is a cop out. These sites are directly responsible for why people believe that games like destiny are mmorpgs and allow the misconception to propagate. There's no journalistic integrity at all when they are allowed to alter the terms to suit themselves. Instead of admitting and creating a discourse on how bad things are in the mmorpg industry they just ignore it and create the illusion that things are thriving. There have been countless true mmorpgs that never got a chance because they never had the populations, populations that were diverted by these news sites to games that aren't even mmorpgs because of the attention these sites brought to these non-mmorpg games. The video in question may be sensationalizing things but the facts are there and these sites are not blameless for the current state of the industry. Instead of supporting small mmorpg projects they rather support the big companies that produce online games and call them mmorpgs despite the fact they are not.
First post and this guy already gets it.
Not at all.
Take a TV channel named after a particular genre. Let's call it... American Movie Classics (it could easily be any of another 50+ similar type channels). For about 20 years it focused on... classic movies. Over the last decade+ it has expanded from that.. to include more modern programming... as well as original TV shows.
A check of their listings today would show... some classics like Titanic and The Three Stooges. It also would show things like "Comic Book Men" and "McMaffia".
If people who watch that channel start to call "Comic Book Men" and "McMaffia" classic American movies.. that would hardly be the channel's fault. It would be because the viewers were morons.
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People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....
Most of all, why is everyone complaining.
Except the fact that it isn't a MMORPG. A true MMORPG is a world that allows a large number of players to interact with one another. An instance based game is anything but massively multiplayer as the very nature of the design limits the amount of players that can interact with one another. Games like destiny and SWL are NOT MMORPGs, they are simply online multiplayer co-op, or as SWL call themselves, shared world RPG. How anyone can call a game that limits the number of players to 20 in a zone or even less a MMORPG is beyond my understanding. It doesn't matter if 1000s of players are playing the same game if they can't even interact with each other in any meaningful way. The only reason people slap on a MMO label on games is because of their inability to comprehend what a MMORPG is and that is not a reason to claim the term is changing.
People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....
And this my friends, is why language is important.
Because for well over a decade MMO has meant a game where hundreds or thousands of players can occupy the same world at the same time.
And then a few confusing headers starts making them act like there are drugs in the water and putting all kinds of crazy ideas in their heads.
Make Diablo an MMORPG and there isn't a single online game that doesn't qualify as an MMO.
I've heard the 1991 version was an MMO but I never played it so I can't say. The 2002 version and the 2006 sequels were not MMOs. The 2013 version apparently was.
So that probably has a lot to do with the confusion around saying "Neverwinter was an MMO" or "Neverwinter was not an MMO". Both statements are correct depending on which Neverwinter game you are talking about.
There was a time when this website didn't have gamer peripherals and non-mmo news. Covering non-mmorpg news on a site named mmorpg.com and saying that "things change" is a cop out. These sites are directly responsible for why people believe that games like destiny are mmorpgs and allow the misconception to propagate. There's no journalistic integrity at all when they are allowed to alter the terms to suit themselves. Instead of admitting and creating a discourse on how bad things are in the mmorpg industry they just ignore it and create the illusion that things are thriving. There have been countless true mmorpgs that never got a chance because they never had the populations, populations that were diverted by these news sites to games that aren't even mmorpgs because of the attention these sites brought to these non-mmorpg games. The video in question may be sensationalizing things but the facts are there and these sites are not blameless for the current state of the industry. Instead of supporting small mmorpg projects they rather support the big companies that produce online games and call them mmorpgs despite the fact they are not.
LOL no, it's not a cop out. Companies grow and change all the time. What did Amazon start as? OH but sites names Amazon that don't sell items from the Amazon is a cop out. Need more Amazon stuff.
Google is used synonymously with web searches. They can't create hardware, or the most used mobile operating system in the world named Android because that isn't what "googling" means.
What a joke. Almost as big of a joke as blaming any sites' coverage for "the current state of the industry"
Developers and PR companies have the same chance across the board to make their mark, and MMORPGs are no different. That MMORPG.COM covers more than MMOs, and clearly defines whether what they're covering is hardware, action RPGs, CORPGs and so on, shouldn't be looked down on.
Who should be looked down on, are those that can't figure out what one game is from another because of what the name on the website is.
But even more-so the guy who posted the video is just being hypocritical. Again, he says that sites are "lying to you for money" ... .... that's exactly what he did... he's monetizing his channel isn't he? His case against the websites in questions are flimsy at best, and his assertion that they "lie to you" for money is a lie as much as any other, created for clicks, so he can get you to watch his misguided views so he can make money.
Thousands of people can, and did, play on the same server at the same time, while interacting with one another in the same world, adventuring together, etc. And at one time, there were zones with a couple hundred people at least in the same instance. I don't know what that shit show looks like now, but when I played in 2013 I was playing a MMORPG.
"Within each Shard however, there can be many temporary instances of each map. These are numbered in the following format: Black Water District #18. This does little to affect game play, unless you play regularly with a friend or group of friends. When you enter the game, you are automatically put in the "best" instance, presumably the one with the least players or highest number of guildmates."
It's hardly MMO when the server is broken up into instances of zones, there is no way you were ever in an zone instance with hundreds of others because these instances have a limit of players. A true MMORPG has no such limits and hence the massively aspect. Neverwinter is exactly like SWL.
Thousands of people can, and did, play on the same server at the same time, while interacting with one another in the same world, adventuring together, etc. And at one time, there were zones with a couple hundred people at least in the same instance. I don't know what that shit show looks like now, but when I played in 2013 I was playing a MMORPG.
"Within each Shard however, there can be many temporary instances of each map. These are numbered in the following format: Black Water District #18. This does little to affect game play, unless you play regularly with a friend or group of friends. When you enter the game, you are automatically put in the "best" instance, presumably the one with the least players or highest number of guildmates."
It's hardly MMO when the server is broken up into instances of zones, there is no way you were ever in an zone instance with hundreds of others because these instances have a limit of players. A true MMORPG has no such limits and hence the massively aspect. Neverwinter is exactly like SWL.
So which are the "true MMORPGs"?
Bonus question: is pre-splitting the population into servers with a cap of say, 5000, 750 of which may be logged in when you are better than having no cap whatsoever and splitting them on the fly if and when the need arises for a specific overcrowded locale?
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To be more serious and sounding slightly corny, this site's staff and community is more of like a family. Sometimes you'll get bias pieces but they are usually stated in the piece and people have the ability to disagree and more importantly actually show their disagreement unlike certain places like steam forums or "official" company site forums, where opinion is either ignored/locked/silenced (Looking at you SE and Trion). Given that its been happening more and more recently and practices on the company side of gaming have become more and more questionable, I think having that ability to create dialogue is very important and has also garnered notice by certain games' communities such as "MMORPG.com said this about the game" or "There's a forum on mmorpg.com saying this." So actually, I'll say my thanks to the staff and the community for the ability to share my opinions this entire time as well as getting opinions that may both agree and/or disagree with my own.
There was a time when this website didn't have gamer peripherals and non-mmo news. Covering non-mmorpg news on a site named mmorpg.com and saying that "things change" is a cop out. These sites are directly responsible for why people believe that games like destiny are mmorpgs and allow the misconception to propagate. There's no journalistic integrity at all when they are allowed to alter the terms to suit themselves. Instead of admitting and creating a discourse on how bad things are in the mmorpg industry they just ignore it and create the illusion that things are thriving. There have been countless true mmorpgs that never got a chance because they never had the populations, populations that were diverted by these news sites to games that aren't even mmorpgs because of the attention these sites brought to these non-mmorpg games. The video in question may be sensationalizing things but the facts are there and these sites are not blameless for the current state of the industry. Instead of supporting small mmorpg projects they rather support the big companies that produce online games and call them mmorpgs despite the fact they are not.
First post and this guy already gets it.
How do you jump from...
"I only shared this because it had me laughing the entire video and I doubt he will get likes or subscribes"
to
"He makes some valid points and they need to be addressed."
to
the quoted post above
The game companies are the ones to blame for the current state of MMORPG's. No game site has ever had any significant impact on game development prior to release. The most significant impact any game site had on games was probably Curse cause WoW mods on there later became WoW features but that ain't no news site.
Game companies often buy 'sponsored' adverts on this site and others and they have every right to cause it's a free market but some are too cheap so no one hears about them. If anything I think this site and others give lots of free coverage and the 15% that aren't mentioned people find on their own if they care enough.
Your shift from posting the original video 'just because' to your responses slowly becoming more agenda driven makes me think you're the person who made that video or in some way know that guy and was asked to post it here.
The original video and the "attack" by him is SJW behavior at its finest. Change the name of this site to kangaroo chicken f***ers then they'll complain about that too when there's none of that here and just game news.
There was a time when this website didn't have gamer peripherals and non-mmo news. Covering non-mmorpg news on a site named mmorpg.com and saying that "things change" is a cop out. These sites are directly responsible for why people believe that games like destiny are mmorpgs and allow the misconception to propagate. There's no journalistic integrity at all when they are allowed to alter the terms to suit themselves. Instead of admitting and creating a discourse on how bad things are in the mmorpg industry they just ignore it and create the illusion that things are thriving. There have been countless true mmorpgs that never got a chance because they never had the populations, populations that were diverted by these news sites to games that aren't even mmorpgs because of the attention these sites brought to these non-mmorpg games. The video in question may be sensationalizing things but the facts are there and these sites are not blameless for the current state of the industry. Instead of supporting small mmorpg projects they rather support the big companies that produce online games and call them mmorpgs despite the fact they are not.
First post and this guy already gets it.
How do you jump from...
"I only shared this because it had me laughing the entire video and I doubt he will get likes or subscribes"
to
"He makes some valid points and they need to be addressed."
to
the quoted post above
The game companies are the ones to blame for the current state of MMORPG's. No game site has ever had any significant impact on game development prior to release. The most significant impact any game site had on games was probably Curse cause WoW mods on there later became WoW features but that ain't no news site.
Game companies often buy 'sponsored' adverts on this site and others and they have every right to cause it's a free market but some are too cheap so no one hears about them. If anything I think this site and others give lots of free coverage and the 15% that aren't mentioned people find on their own if they care enough.
Your shift from posting the original video 'just because' to your responses slowly becoming more agenda driven makes me think you're the person who made that video or in some way know that guy and was asked to post it here.
The original video and the "attack" by him is SJW behavior at its finest. Change the name of this site to kangaroo chicken f***ers then they'll complain about that too when there's none of that here and just game news.
Yeah I noticed his 180 degree change in tone too when a suspicious brand new account agreed with him. Sounds like Mikeha just wants to go with whatever the flow is.
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You are kidding right? Why would people search for anything when sites like this specifically spoon feed people that information? It's exactly sites like this that have "top games" lists and such that continue the cycle of the current stagnation by funneling people to the already populated games. I have experienced surges in population in games from social activity on reddit and mmorpg news sites after certain articles came out. I have also seen many MMORPGs die simply from lack of exposure and dwindling populations. There have been plenty of games that simply couldn't sustain active development because of a small playerbase. People talking about games is the number one way that attracts new players and mmorpg sites are one of the main ways that get people talking.
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This guy is a whiny basement dweller taking up his plastic sword for a cause that isn't even an issue. Don't like the channel, don't subscribe to it, don't visit the website. Problem solved, nothing lost, nothing gained.
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Attacking the guy doesn't change the fact that calling every online game a MMO messes up SEO and dilutes what little MMORPG news still exists.
This isn't a signature, you just think it is.
It's not an MMO in the sense that there aren't zones with hundreds-and-hundreds of people. You are not fighting for spawns. There's a very strong storyline throughout the game. So it's more of a story-based game closer to things like Dragon Age or Oblivion, which we really try to follow.
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Wait, we do....same for MMORPGS. No need to change what is easily understood.
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OP does not need to remember anything.
He is entitled to his opinion just like you are entitled to yours. He makes some valid points and they need to be addressed.
/Agree
First post and this guy already gets it.
On the other hand mmo devs have delivered such garbage for the past decade, these sites literally have nothing to talk about. So it's either throw in the towel or pretend Diablo 3 news belongs here until something decent arrives.
People complaining that D3 is on here and isn't an "MMORPG" yet it is Online, there is alot of people playing it, you do gain levels. So I would say it is Massively multiplayer (Being theres alot of people and you can play it with others) It is online, it is an rpg.....
Most of all, why is everyone complaining.
Take a TV channel named after a particular genre. Let's call it... American Movie Classics (it could easily be any of another 50+ similar type channels). For about 20 years it focused on... classic movies. Over the last decade+ it has expanded from that.. to include more modern programming... as well as original TV shows.
A check of their listings today would show... some classics like Titanic and The Three Stooges. It also would show things like "Comic Book Men" and "McMaffia".
If people who watch that channel start to call "Comic Book Men" and "McMaffia" classic American movies.. that would hardly be the channel's fault. It would be because the viewers were morons.
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Because for well over a decade MMO has meant a game where hundreds or thousands of players can occupy the same world at the same time.
And then a few confusing headers starts making them act like there are drugs in the water and putting all kinds of crazy ideas in their heads.
Make Diablo an MMORPG and there isn't a single online game that doesn't qualify as an MMO.
Neverwinter Nights (1991)
Neverwinter Nights (2002)
Neverwinter Nights 2 (2006)
Neverwinter (2013)
I've heard the 1991 version was an MMO but I never played it so I can't say. The 2002 version and the 2006 sequels were not MMOs. The 2013 version apparently was.
So that probably has a lot to do with the confusion around saying "Neverwinter was an MMO" or "Neverwinter was not an MMO". Both statements are correct depending on which Neverwinter game you are talking about.
Google is used synonymously with web searches. They can't create hardware, or the most used mobile operating system in the world named Android because that isn't what "googling" means.
What a joke. Almost as big of a joke as blaming any sites' coverage for "the current state of the industry"
Developers and PR companies have the same chance across the board to make their mark, and MMORPGs are no different. That MMORPG.COM covers more than MMOs, and clearly defines whether what they're covering is hardware, action RPGs, CORPGs and so on, shouldn't be looked down on.
Who should be looked down on, are those that can't figure out what one game is from another because of what the name on the website is.
But even more-so the guy who posted the video is just being hypocritical. Again, he says that sites are "lying to you for money" ... .... that's exactly what he did... he's monetizing his channel isn't he? His case against the websites in questions are flimsy at best, and his assertion that they "lie to you" for money is a lie as much as any other, created for clicks, so he can get you to watch his misguided views so he can make money.
It's hardly MMO when the server is broken up into instances of zones, there is no way you were ever in an zone instance with hundreds of others because these instances have a limit of players. A true MMORPG has no such limits and hence the massively aspect. Neverwinter is exactly like SWL.
Bonus question: is pre-splitting the population into servers with a cap of say, 5000, 750 of which may be logged in when you are better than having no cap whatsoever and splitting them on the fly if and when the need arises for a specific overcrowded locale?
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"I only shared this because it had me laughing the entire video and I doubt he will get likes or subscribes"
to
"He makes some valid points and they need to be addressed."
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the quoted post above
The game companies are the ones to blame for the current state of MMORPG's. No game site has ever had any significant impact on game development prior to release. The most significant impact any game site had on games was probably Curse cause WoW mods on there later became WoW features but that ain't no news site.
Game companies often buy 'sponsored' adverts on this site and others and they have every right to cause it's a free market but some are too cheap so no one hears about them. If anything I think this site and others give lots of free coverage and the 15% that aren't mentioned people find on their own if they care enough.
Your shift from posting the original video 'just because' to your responses slowly becoming more agenda driven makes me think you're the person who made that video or in some way know that guy and was asked to post it here.
The original video and the "attack" by him is SJW behavior at its finest. Change the name of this site to kangaroo chicken f***ers then they'll complain about that too when there's none of that here and just game news.
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