I dont care, I'll straight up say I hope Activision-Blizzard buys out EQ. Or even SE. SE could do a lot with the EQ IP.
Wouldn't that be something if Activision Blizzard ended up with the EQ IP. What was once a fight between two giant upcoming mmos. With daily / weekly/ monthly epeen contests each announcing they have more players then the next.
I do feel however Blizzard could really pull off some amazing Everquesting if they somehow ended up with the IP. Not that they need or I imagine really even want the IP because they can come up with and have way better already in there stables.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
I always find it funny that people talk about games like EQ EQ2 as If they are completely dated games. WoW and EQ2 were released at essentially the same time and both are still being played. And for what it's worth, I dont know that another game has been released that is better than either other than Guildwars 2. Someone needs to release a real MMO that gets back to the concept that Everquest was, real community and a need for group interaction.
C'mon, one of you liquid asset wealthy MMORPG.com guys who spend $15,000 US to P2W in games purchase DBG. Then we can all open the Everquest Next files and see what was really going on with that debacle.
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I dont care, I'll straight up say I hope Activision-Blizzard buys out EQ. Or even SE. SE could do a lot with the EQ IP.
Activision, Blizzard & SE, have waaaaaay better IP's to take care of. They don't need EQ IP's.
Its not really about if "need" it or not, its just about controlling the market. Whether people think it or not, the EQ/II progression servers did get decent traction. Activision-Blizzard pulling in those numbers before WoW Classic only cements a stronger hold on the "old school" market. Keep in mind the games have been running in "maintenance" mode for years now anyway with "new" updates, so honestly the cost to keep them up is minor in comparison to the control of the market they would get in return. And as what was said before, a lot of assets are still around that Daybreak has control of. I mean Overwatch was born from dead mmo assets so maybe Activision-Blizzard will purchase the EQ IP and flip it into an EQ inspired battle royal since the landscape and models were pretty much done. Given how "popular" battle royals have been as of late, its not a far fetched idea.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
What are they going to do, crowdfund the purchase of DBG? Where is the money coming from?
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
Its to my understanding they only have about 5-6M$ confirmed. That aside though, this could go sideways for them really fast if they dont clarify what is going on to their backers. Its always good to have multiple titles under one's belt, but when you're relying on community funding to get something to fruition, its as the old saying goes "Individuals are smart, but people are stupid."
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
Because they could not afford a 30 mil project without a kickstarter? You cant exactly run a KS to buy a company, at least I don't think you can.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
How are you even confused? So are they going to do a Kickstarter for a new acquisition? Because that's what they would have to do. I doubt any of the money is liquid enough and they are not making any profits since the one game they are making is still costing them to develop. Even if they had an extra 30 million lying around, I doubt they could acquire DBG for that kind of a bargain, and if they did it would be the worst business decision ever.
One would collapse under the weight of the other. Something would get canceled, sold, or not made because they would basically be merging and in one big hot mess. They just aren't strong enough of a company yet to take on that type of portfolio, I don't care what they think they can do.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
Because they could not afford a 30 mil project without a kickstarter? You cant exactly run a KS to buy a company, at least I don't think you can.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
What are they going to do, crowdfund the purchase of DBG? Where is the money coming from?
I fail to understand how you guys are not reading these facts;
-In the KS they stated Steven was personally funding the core project which they stated was roughly 30m dollars.
-They also stated that the KS was for marketing and for funding stretch goals ie Underrealm, sea combat etc.
-The sources for this article are DAYBREAK, which means obviously this info is not from Intrepid, and that they OBVIOUSLY have the funding to compete with the other potential buyers.
-Nobody here knows the financial wherewith-all of Steven, so why the assumptions?
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
Because they could not afford a 30 mil project without a kickstarter? You cant exactly run a KS to buy a company, at least I don't think you can.
Not saying they cant BUT...
There is more than one reason why Kickstarters are done these days, especially for MMOs:
You have no money and you need the KS money (pretty iffy for MMO projects that seldom raise more than 2 or 3 mil this way) or...
You have the money but want to gauge interest in your project by how many people participate n the KS drive.
I have always been under the impression that Ashes falls clearly into the 2nd category.
It would still be odd for a small company to buy a larger one but the fact that they did a KS for Ashes means jack.
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how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
How are you even confused? So are they going to do a Kickstarter for a new acquisition? Because that's what they would have to do. I doubt any of the money is liquid enough and they are not making any profits since the one game they are making is still costing them to develop. Even if they had an extra 30 million lying around, I doubt they could acquire DBG for that kind of a bargain, and if they did it would be the worst business decision ever.
One would collapse under the weight of the other. Something would get canceled, sold, or not made because they would basically be merging and in one big hot mess. They just aren't strong enough of a company yet to take on that type of portfolio, I don't care what they think they can do.
3.2 mil only came from ks though.. the core game is 100% funded by their CEO steven sharif. if 30 mil can go towards a game from sharifs pocket, whose to say a whole game studio isn't out of his budget.
intrepid is made up of industry veterans most of who were higher ups at daybreak/soe at one point or another... daybreak itself was formed from old soe people so why would intrepid... ex daybreak and soe people.. be incompetent with running daybreak.. a company most of them came from running previously?
I am definitely not to interested in Intrepid buying Daybreak. Let them release their own title and get some success and focus on that rather than worry about Daybreak's IP's. Daybreaks IP's or at least the EQ IP really needs someone passionate about it.
Whether some folks want to admit it in these comments or not, it is one of if not the most important MMO's to ever come out. I want someone passionate about it's style of play with an eye for the future. I don't think any of the small studios that are working on their own titles should be worrying about taking this task on.
It's more like an episode of "Fix this Gaming Company" and really needs the attention to detail that pure focus provides and not someone small that's already releasing or working on a different title. We need like a gaming philanthropist to purchase Daybreak and find a game dev passionate about EQ and the SOE stable of games to head it. Just because I think the main issue with Daybreak has been their management of their IP's and not necessarily the devs, but that's pure guess work on my part.
DBG before it was formed and SOE was in control had a history of moving people in and out, then acquiring this and that, this includes the whole Vanguard thing.
Now facts have come out about the sale and creation of DBG and the shells are still being moved around and the pea is still being hidden, now a rumor that the Ashes team could maybe be interested fits well with the history of this, a company full of ex SOE guys buying back SOE assets, then Sony possibly then taking over Ashes plus old assets.
Crazy theory I know but Sony moves in strange ways when it comes to profits and tax management, this could of been a long game.
IS SOE actually really dead, or taking a nap for tax purposes that 10% ownership kinda says there is a heat beat.
Here's hoping this will end up giving Planetside 2 the boost it needs.
My dream someone takes over Planetside2 and allows for a 40k mod/spinoff game reminds me of some of the 40k books ive read its so close to looking like it sometimes it hurts LOL.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
How are you even confused? So are they going to do a Kickstarter for a new acquisition? Because that's what they would have to do. I doubt any of the money is liquid enough and they are not making any profits since the one game they are making is still costing them to develop. Even if they had an extra 30 million lying around, I doubt they could acquire DBG for that kind of a bargain, and if they did it would be the worst business decision ever.
One would collapse under the weight of the other. Something would get canceled, sold, or not made because they would basically be merging and in one big hot mess. They just aren't strong enough of a company yet to take on that type of portfolio, I don't care what they think they can do.
3.2 mil only came from ks though.. the core game is 100% funded by their CEO steven sharif. if 30 mil can go towards a game from sharifs pocket, whose to say a whole game studio isn't out of his budget.
intrepid is made up of industry veterans most of who were higher ups at daybreak/soe at one point or another... daybreak itself was formed from old soe people so why would intrepid... ex daybreak and soe people.. be incompetent with running daybreak.. a company most of them came from running previously?
I mean, if he wanted to spend his personal fortune on a dying game studio, I guess it's possible.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
Because they could not afford a 30 mil project without a kickstarter? You cant exactly run a KS to buy a company, at least I don't think you can.
All I'm going to say is, Intrepid Kickstarted Ashes right? Buying the rights to the games and the IPs would be kinda expensive. I mean, DC Universe alone... not even talking about it as a game but the IP, that could be a pretty penny.
Yeah, that's why I assume a bigger company may buy it up. Intrepid can't afford it, and since they have yet to publish Ashes, they aren't gonna get any investors on board.
how do you kno what intrepid can and cannot afford? ? im confused.. if intrepid has enough to fund a 30million project (confirmed on ks) then why couldnt they afford to buy daybreak?
What are they going to do, crowdfund the purchase of DBG? Where is the money coming from?
I fail to understand how you guys are not reading these facts;
-In the KS they stated Steven was personally funding the core project which they stated was roughly 30m dollars.
-They also stated that the KS was for marketing and for funding stretch goals ie Underrealm, sea combat etc.
-The sources for this article are DAYBREAK, which means obviously this info is not from Intrepid, and that they OBVIOUSLY have the funding to compete with the other potential buyers.
-Nobody here knows the financial wherewith-all of Steven, so why the assumptions?
Its just as easy to assume he doesn't have the finanical wherewith-all as it is to assume he does.
Time will tell where the truth lies..... or if he lied about the truth.
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Agree , Activision / blizzard wont make a new mmorpg soon , too busy with sports games and WoW is still going on
SE , has tons of game on the list already and dont need more IP.
is sad that EQ franchise wont get a new game anytime soon
I do feel however Blizzard could really pull off some amazing Everquesting if they somehow ended up with the IP. Not that they need or I imagine really even want the IP because they can come up with and have way better already in there stables.
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Its not really about if "need" it or not, its just about controlling the market. Whether people think it or not, the EQ/II progression servers did get decent traction. Activision-Blizzard pulling in those numbers before WoW Classic only cements a stronger hold on the "old school" market. Keep in mind the games have been running in "maintenance" mode for years now anyway with "new" updates, so honestly the cost to keep them up is minor in comparison to the control of the market they would get in return. And as what was said before, a lot of assets are still around that Daybreak has control of. I mean Overwatch was born from dead mmo assets so maybe Activision-Blizzard will purchase the EQ IP and flip it into an EQ inspired battle royal since the landscape and models were pretty much done. Given how "popular" battle royals have been as of late, its not a far fetched idea.
What are they going to do, crowdfund the purchase of DBG? Where is the money coming from?
Because they could not afford a 30 mil project without a kickstarter? You cant exactly run a KS to buy a company, at least I don't think you can.
Not saying they cant BUT...
One would collapse under the weight of the other. Something would get canceled, sold, or not made because they would basically be merging and in one big hot mess. They just aren't strong enough of a company yet to take on that type of portfolio, I don't care what they think they can do.
I fail to understand how you guys are not reading these facts;
-In the KS they stated Steven was personally funding the core project which they stated was roughly 30m dollars.
-They also stated that the KS was for marketing and for funding stretch goals ie Underrealm, sea combat etc.
-The sources for this article are DAYBREAK, which means obviously this info is not from Intrepid, and that they OBVIOUSLY have the funding to compete with the other potential buyers.
-Nobody here knows the financial wherewith-all of Steven, so why the assumptions?
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I have always been under the impression that Ashes falls clearly into the 2nd category.
It would still be odd for a small company to buy a larger one but the fact that they did a KS for Ashes means jack.
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intrepid is made up of industry veterans most of who were higher ups at daybreak/soe at one point or another... daybreak itself was formed from old soe people so why would intrepid... ex daybreak and soe people.. be incompetent with running daybreak.. a company most of them came from running previously?
Whether some folks want to admit it in these comments or not, it is one of if not the most important MMO's to ever come out. I want someone passionate about it's style of play with an eye for the future. I don't think any of the small studios that are working on their own titles should be worrying about taking this task on.
It's more like an episode of "Fix this Gaming Company" and really needs the attention to detail that pure focus provides and not someone small that's already releasing or working on a different title. We need like a gaming philanthropist to purchase Daybreak and find a game dev passionate about EQ and the SOE stable of games to head it. Just because I think the main issue with Daybreak has been their management of their IP's and not necessarily the devs, but that's pure guess work on my part.
Now facts have come out about the sale and creation of DBG and the shells are still being moved around and the pea is still being hidden, now a rumor that the Ashes team could maybe be interested fits well with the history of this, a company full of ex SOE guys buying back SOE assets, then Sony possibly then taking over Ashes plus old assets.
Crazy theory I know but Sony moves in strange ways when it comes to profits and tax management, this could of been a long game.
IS SOE actually really dead, or taking a nap for tax purposes that 10% ownership kinda says there is a heat beat.
Either way I want someone to get it that will continue the EQ franchise.
My dream someone takes over Planetside2 and allows for a 40k mod/spinoff game reminds me of some of the 40k books ive read its so close to looking like it sometimes it hurts LOL.
I mean, if he wanted to spend his personal fortune on a dying game studio, I guess it's possible.
Time will tell where the truth lies..... or if he lied about the truth.
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