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gattm99
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I bought SWG the day it released and attempted to make an account, for any of you who were there you know it didn't happen. I think I was able to make an account in a day or two. It took a day to patch the game and finally I could play. I made a character that I planned to be a gunfighter. My first impressions weren't good. My main problem was that I was spending hours running around to be destroyed by a doppy mission that payed 200 credits. That and I couldn't figure out the game's more advanced mechanics. I played a couple of weeks before I decided that was enough.
The JTL expansion really caught my attention. I loved the wingcommander and Independence War space flight games, and I thought a MMO that actually had more too it then point and click might be fun. Of course I got on here and listened to everyone whinning about the CU and decided to hold off.
Curoisty got the best of me and I bought the box a few days ago. All I can say is, big big improvement, but still not good. I can now take my BARC speeder to my missions instead of spening hours running along the planet, but when i get there I still get my ass handed to me.
The graphics were phenomenal, but ran like crap on my 6600GT, I disabled shading and now the game is playable but looks like any other game. Still good enough.
There are now things to do besides take missons from a machine.
A big improvement is getting all the starting profesions so you can mess around with all of them and see what you want to advance.
Still seems to be a lack of equipment, I mean low level gear. I still can't afford a piece of armor or a better weapon.
Seems like tons of Jedi running around fighting all the time. And while I could care less about continuity, (I unlike some am able to understand that star wars is a fictional world created and exploited to sell as much merchandise as possible, and that George Lucas is the high priest of merchandise, I further gather that SWG is a fictional recreation of a fictional world.) I would still like to see Jedi's be rare.
Anyway I haven't even had a chance to go to space yet and am looking forward to that, I may even pay for a second month!
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There is a trick ... ALLOW others to shower you with free equipment and ships and stuff and company and advice and a place to live in. The veteran players have plenty and are always willing to give you a starter package and some travel money ... the forum here is full with people that would help you get started. Join a guild and suddenly you will breeze through missions because while it IS possible to solo, being in a team IS more productive and more fun.
As you are still in the early phases of the game ... if none of the forums users here is playing on the server you are currently made your character, you might want to consider making another character on their server.
If you need money, thats VERY easy in SWG .. just start flying in space and hunt tier 1 and 2 enemy ships in your starter ship. You will kill them easily and you will get plenty of looted space components. Keep the good ones and use them on your ship AND sell the rest to the NPC chassis dealer in any larger starport. On average you will earn 100 k per hour, or 1-2 million on a weekend ... AND you get better as a pilot while doing that. With that money you can afford TONS of starter equipment. You COULD sell your BARC speeder for 4-5 mill, but I would not recommend it.
About performance ... RAM does the trick ... at least 1 GIG.
About boring missions ... do the quests (e.g. Mort in Dearic cantina on Talus, e.g. just about EVERYONE you meet on Kashyyyk) ... fun stuff .. multi part, multi planet, ground-space mix .. with nice rewards. MUCH better than the grind terminal missions. AND do all the newbie quests in Mos Eisley ... the new player experiences has been greatly improved with that.
About Jedi ... I think most of them concentrate on Dantooine Mining Outpost (and those are usually the worst, most juvenile ones) because thats Grand Grinding Central. I avoid it if I can and I dont see too many Jedi.
Have fun
Erillion
That video card should purr with SWG, Erillion is right about the ram. SWG is extremely ram intensive, get more. That will smooth it out.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Thanks
If you avoid shadows and the optional flora and stuff it may.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Good post, Erillion.
It IS hard to find good equipment for new people.
The best thing is to try and find a guild for new equipment that no one's using any more.
Veteran players usually won't bother putting equipment for sale if it's low-level and they're not going to make much money by selling it. They usually just drop it in their house.
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Yes
But I recommend playing no higher than 1024x768, turn off flora/fauna and shadows. In the launcher go to options and Disable world preloading and caching and set your shader to 1.1
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But I recommend playing no higher than 1024x768, turn off flora/fauna and shadows. In the launcher go to options and Disable world preloading and caching and set your shader to 1.1
Thanks a bunch man if it helps to know I have a 2900+ processor if that can help with the graphics at all.
Thanks
A good guild usually has AT LEAST one storage house filled with all kinds of stuff. Motto : Take what you need, leave what you dont need. Works perfectly.
If you need anything else, a good guild has all the crafters needed to get you any normal stuff you need within a few hours or days.
And if you use player vendor search (red bazaar terminals, set on GALAXY WIDE vendor search, NOT the normal bazaar search) I am sure you will find just about ANYTHING. From the lowly CDEF pistol to the Krayt enhanced T21 rifle.
Have fun
Erillion
Fadeus, do you still play SWG?
"Alas, the beginings of things!"
He does. On Naritus galaxy.
have fun
Erillion
Sure do, however EQ II has been monopolizing more of my time at the moment. My time in SWG is mostly checking my vendor and surveying for new resources.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Jerk
You started talking about EQII and got me curious about the changes so I tried it out again (thank you AAP) and now I'm playing it more and more too. I'm currently about 50/50 between SWG and EQII now.
Gah...
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Jerk
You started talking about EQII and got me curious about the changes so I tried it out again (thank you AAP) and now I'm playing it more and more too. I'm currently about 50/50 between SWG and EQII now.
Gah...
*snickers*
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Jerk
You started talking about EQII and got me curious about the changes so I tried it out again (thank you AAP) and now I'm playing it more and more too. I'm currently about 50/50 between SWG and EQII now.
Gah...
*snickers*
Ahh well... back to 80%+ of my time in SWG... got to level 15 and was promptly reminded why I left EQII when *all* my quests started *requiring* a group to do them while they were still white. It's much better than it was and you can solo like mad but if you plan to do quests you better have time to group
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Jerk
You started talking about EQII and got me curious about the changes so I tried it out again (thank you AAP) and now I'm playing it more and more too. I'm currently about 50/50 between SWG and EQII now.
Gah...
*snickers*
Ahh well... back to 80%+ of my time in SWG... got to level 15 and was promptly reminded why I left EQII when *all* my quests started *requiring* a group to do them while they were still white. It's much better than it was and you can solo like mad but if you plan to do quests you better have time to group
What in the world are you talking about? All the quests don't require grouping and even if they did I would think that completely appropriate. SWG players were spoiled for almost 2 years, anything in the game could be done in under 2 hours. I have always felt very little reward for any storyline stuff in SWG, the only reward I got out of it was nostalgia from the movies and knowing the history of the saga.
Sorry you feel you should be able to do everything solo and that as you get higher level the game actually has some more strict requirements once you have had time to acclimate to the system and grouping. It doesn't take long to get into or form your own group if you need to do one. I did nothing but quest all weekend, had a blast with it, I have regulars I group with and we always play together.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Hey, I took some advise and did some space missions and made some pretty good money. That was able to allow me to buy a sword which allowed me to double my damage output, which made the game a whole lot more fun.
I also bought some bone armor and even though it says nothing about a restriction I am not certified to equip it??
I have now reached the point where I can no longer earn Space flight experience, but the space flight trainer says, just a few more missions, kind of makes me mad.
I am spending alot of money on training, and I know that other players can train, but I am apprehensive about spamming, "please train me in 1 hd" all over the place.
space progression is different then regular skill progression. just having enough experience wont do the trick, the skill trainers will have missions to run in order to advance to the next skill tier. check the conversation topics carefully, see if he is offering a new mission or if it reads different then before, if so, then that's your mission to complete for progression.
as for armor, you will not be certified in it until you novice an elite profession. certain professions grant the ability to use certain types of armors, and as you gain proficiency in that profession, the penalties for wearing the armor are reduced. being a master in an elite profession is usually enough to negate almost all penalties for wearing armor.
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Jerk
You started talking about EQII and got me curious about the changes so I tried it out again (thank you AAP) and now I'm playing it more and more too. I'm currently about 50/50 between SWG and EQII now.
Gah...
*snickers*
Ahh well... back to 80%+ of my time in SWG... got to level 15 and was promptly reminded why I left EQII when *all* my quests started *requiring* a group to do them while they were still white. It's much better than it was and you can solo like mad but if you plan to do quests you better have time to group
What in the world are you talking about? All the quests don't require grouping and even if they did I would think that completely appropriate. SWG players were spoiled for almost 2 years, anything in the game could be done in under 2 hours. I have always felt very little reward for any storyline stuff in SWG, the only reward I got out of it was nostalgia from the movies and knowing the history of the saga.
Sorry you feel you should be able to do everything solo and that as you get higher level the game actually has some more strict requirements once you have had time to acclimate to the system and grouping. It doesn't take long to get into or form your own group if you need to do one. I did nothing but quest all weekend, had a blast with it, I have regulars I group with and we always play together.
No Fadeus I don't think that I should be able to do *everything* solo. But if a quest is going to need a group it would be nice if they mentioned it. They do sometimes but not in all of them. I don't always have time to drag a group together to hunt with me.
EQ2 is a lot of fun but it does require a lot more time commitment than SWG. One of the reasons I love SWG so much is I can hop on for 30 minutes and feel like I've accomplished something at the end of my session. I didn't get that feeling in EQ2, fairly quickly in fact. In SWG even doing 'elite' professions I could see serious headway after 30 minutes. And in 30 minutes I can complete any quest in the SWG game (or at least a portion of it).
I am a casual gamer. Wasn't always, but my kids, wife and job have turned me into one except late at night. So if I only have a short time to hop on I don't want to waste it. I guess that's why I love SWG so much
I don't have to have 1 or 2 hours to play to have fun. I can literally hop on for 15-30 minutes and have almost as much fun as I can with 1 or 2 hours.
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I just wanted to say thank you for posting this advice. I followed it and the difference in my game play is night and day. I was previously unable to use JTL because I couldn't follow the motions of the other ships, and I was disappointed with the level of lag in SWG as a whole. These tips got rid of the lag I was having and I'm well on the way on my pilot track now
Very grateful for the advice.
Few more tips;
If not on a busy server move now,
Try Erillion's server, or bria ,ahazi gorath, chillestra
Do the starter quests, they give badges and some goodies. Also on a busier server you will find groups forming at the starport or cantina for lower ends.
Do not worry about equipment till novice the 17, 18s are what folks use at the lower ends and scout blaster for around 8 or 9 pistol
Novice can only be learned from trainer everything else can be taught by someone else, never spend credits on training if you do not have to
Do not spend all your time "leveling up" that can get very boring. Take some time to see some of the wonderful sites in the world. My favorite place is Theeds Palace (Naboo) they did an amazing job there!
Visit Mos esily cantina see if any real live folks are on and chat a bit, folks usualy are very friendly on the larger servers, and the community is part of what makes swg still good
Do not try and learn everything all at once. There is alot to the game and each aspect can be very different. Most of all try different things and see what you like the best doing and work on that
Get ATLEAST 1gb of ram, 2gb will make the game run completely smooth.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Get ATLEAST 1gb of ram, 2gb will make the game run completely smooth.
Get 2GB RAM and turn off your pagefile and let XP run in RAM
No pagefile crap going on in the background to slow things down, the entire OS runs in RAM as well as the game so flipping between OS/Game is lightning fast.
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Get ATLEAST 1gb of ram, 2gb will make the game run completely smooth.
Get 2GB RAM and turn off your pagefile and let XP run in RAM
No pagefile crap going on in the background to slow things down, the entire OS runs in RAM as well as the game so flipping between OS/Game is lightning fast.
XP is inefficient that way. MS wrote it to be more effective running a swap file. I wouldn't suggest this wthout alot more then 2gb of ram. If you have some benchmarks to prove me wrong on that El I would love to see them, because everything I have ever read contradicts what you said.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Get ATLEAST 1gb of ram, 2gb will make the game run completely smooth.
Get 2GB RAM and turn off your pagefile and let XP run in RAM
No pagefile crap going on in the background to slow things down, the entire OS runs in RAM as well as the game so flipping between OS/Game is lightning fast.
XP is inefficient that way. MS wrote it to be more effective running a swap file. I wouldn't suggest this wthout alot more then 2gb of ram. If you have some benchmarks to prove me wrong on that El I would love to see them, because everything I have ever read contradicts what you said.
I've read the same things but I didn't bother benchmarking. My only evidence is the fact that I can alt-tab and perform many applications faster now with the pagefile turned off than when it was on. If the pagefile is on, at all, the system will stick parts of the OS into it. Which means if you need to access those parts you have to wait for the system to fetch them from disk. Microsoft can claim whatever they want but my system has been performing much better, faster and more stable than when I had the pagefile turned on since I turned it off.
I wouldn't recommend doing it with less than 2gb of RAM, however. If you're below 2gb of RAM I can think of several situations where you might actually need the pagefile. And even with 2gb of RAM you do need to keep your memory utilization in mind because if you try to use more than what you have the system will freeze up.
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