I'd say playing Elite Dangerous is more Sci Fi Sim, Much more serious like EVE in the sense that it is a real universe. No Mans Sky is more like a Saturday morning cartoon or a comic book. I dont know if that makes sense but its the best way i can describe it .
I feel like ED has less to do but provides a more realistic setting, like i said a sim experience. No Mans Sky is Arcade with more to do. If you like one i think you will like the other.
I hope landings are fairly easy in NMS. Hearing about the challenges some faced in ED has kept me from trying it even though I bought it in a Steam sale earlier this year.
Yeah the landings in NMS are super easy , you just hit E anywhere you want on a planet and auto land. When you approach a space station you just fly into the light beam and it auto pilots you in.
As far as the the challenges of landing in ED, That was my favorite part TBH. All my time in ED has been spent space trucking. No bountys or mining just simply delivering one good from one planet or station to the next. Its super relaxing and almost zen like. For me its American Truck simulator in space, love it. Landing in ED = Backing your truck into a tight spot in ATS
In real life I struggle to park my Frontier pick-up correctly even in a "pull-though."
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huimble has the same problem as gog ( no mp ) or its with mp ( as the steam version )? Steam price is 26.99 aswell mehtinks, at least until tomorrow.
Pretty sure all version gog/steam w/e will have multiplayer as Next is suppose to be a free update isn't it?
NO Multiplayer is steam only right now, All other versions have to wait a few months or so.
Ah GOG is pushing the B.S. galaxy client then?
Noticed this about GoG since galaxy platform came out, the games they sell are no longer DRM free if there's a MP portion of the game as they generally require you to play via galaxy which is essentially a drm.
Thought HG wasn't suppose to do that...oh well is good you can get it free elsewhere along with a crack for MP I guess...lolz
Really games need to get back to the good ole fashion self hosting a la Grim Dawn for these single player games with limited MP.
Except cracks almost never work for multiplayer unless you use a LAN program to fake a connection to another player. The reason they have to push a client as DRM for multiplayer environments is probably because of the fact that companies almost never would allow a DRM free client to run multiplayer, as it would be cheater central.
I hate being forced to use a new client as much as the next person, but honestly I can't get mad at them for having the requirement for multiplayer.
is it a shared universe. there are 2 options. play with friends or start alone. will i see other bases, occupied planets if I start alone.. my own server kinda thing or a shared experience where you sort of start off alone?
I'm doing some reading, including the galactic hub (Thx Torval), but it seems kinda light on some of the details.
huimble has the same problem as gog ( no mp ) or its with mp ( as the steam version )? Steam price is 26.99 aswell mehtinks, at least until tomorrow.
Pretty sure all version gog/steam w/e will have multiplayer as Next is suppose to be a free update isn't it?
NO Multiplayer is steam only right now, All other versions have to wait a few months or so.
Ah GOG is pushing the B.S. galaxy client then?
Noticed this about GoG since galaxy platform came out, the games they sell are no longer DRM free if there's a MP portion of the game as they generally require you to play via galaxy which is essentially a drm.
Thought HG wasn't suppose to do that...oh well is good you can get it free elsewhere along with a crack for MP I guess...lolz
Really games need to get back to the good ole fashion self hosting a la Grim Dawn for these single player games with limited MP.
Except cracks almost never work for multiplayer unless you use a LAN program to fake a connection to another player. The reason they have to push a client as DRM for multiplayer environments is probably because of the fact that companies almost never would allow a DRM free client to run multiplayer, as it would be cheater central.
I hate being forced to use a new client as much as the next person, but honestly I can't get mad at them for having the requirement for multiplayer.
Dunno but I have used many MP cracks that actually work, and by all reports the mp fix works just fine, anyways I am not mad but I used to support GOG due to them being no DRM but since the galaxy thing I kind of lost interest in them and don't see why I shouldn't just use steam.
I mean I hate using "platforms" such as steam but if I MUST use one to play a game then I will just use steam...
Far far too busy enjoying Warframe right now though so will wait before touching NMS if I ever get around to it.
There's just far too many interesting games for me to keep up, my list of "need to try" just keeps getting bigger and bigger...lmao
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Meh, it's just as shite as it was back when it launched. How long has it been and you still can't remap all keybindings? No hotas support? No true multiplayer. Sorry, my definition of a multiplayer game extends beyond 4 player co-op. All they did was add a few things to do, improved the graphics (At the cost of performance), and rebranded it. Some people enjoy the single player exploration that it offers in spades. I just don't. I accept that it's just my opinion and preference.
Meh, it's just as shite as it was back when it launched. How long has it been and you still can't remap all keybindings? No hotas support? No true multiplayer. Sorry, my definition of a multiplayer game extends beyond 4 player co-op. All they did was add a few things to do, improved the graphics (At the cost of performance), and rebranded it. Some people enjoy the single player exploration that it offers in spades. I just don't. I accept that it's just my opinion and preference.
Except for the comment about game performance (which could be your hardware) all of your complaints are due to your personal preference and not any real deficiency on the game's part.
In my case, keyboard remapping, never do it. Hotas support, its not a space simulator, I'm told you land with a press of a button.
Besides, flight sticks are illogical outside of an atmosphere, not exactly controlling the flaps and what not in a vacuum. (Even if Star Wars stupidly shows it happening)
4 player multiplayer is still multiplayer regardless of your personal "true Scotsman" definition.
As for soloing in space, 3/4 of my 10 years in EVE were soloing, after all, space is a vast lonely place where meeting another often ends up in conflict.
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Meh, it's just as shite as it was back when it launched. How long has it been and you still can't remap all keybindings? No hotas support? No true multiplayer. Sorry, my definition of a multiplayer game extends beyond 4 player co-op. All they did was add a few things to do, improved the graphics (At the cost of performance), and rebranded it. Some people enjoy the single player exploration that it offers in spades. I just don't. I accept that it's just my opinion and preference.
For some of us 4 player coop is enough, while I do enjoy mmo's some games like this I rather just play with a small private group.
I consider games like this "single player games with Coop MP" which bring me to the whole galaxy drm thing as I feel such games should be done like Grim Dawn rather than bigger mmo type games where you need to connect to official servers etc etc.
For me this is kind of like two steps forward but one step back.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Meh, it's just as shite as it was back when it launched. How long has it been and you still can't remap all keybindings? No hotas support? No true multiplayer. Sorry, my definition of a multiplayer game extends beyond 4 player co-op. All they did was add a few things to do, improved the graphics (At the cost of performance), and rebranded it. Some people enjoy the single player exploration that it offers in spades. I just don't. I accept that it's just my opinion and preference.
Except for the comment about game performance (which could be your hardware) all of your complaints are due to your personal preference and not any real deficiency on the game's part.
In my case, keyboard remapping, never do it. Hotas support, its not a space simulator, I'm told you land with a press of a button.
Besides, flight sticks are illogical outside of an atmosphere, not exactly controlling the flaps and what not in a vacuum. (Even if Star Wars stupidly shows it happening)
4 player multiplayer is still multiplayer regardless of your personal "true Scotsman" definition.
As for soloing in space, 3/4 of my 10 years in EVE were soloing, after all, space is a vast lonely place where meeting another often ends up in conflict.
I played at launch. My performance is worse. It's a simple fact. No hardware changes other than adding a SSD. So you figure that one out.
Remapping is expected by today's standards in gaming. Not being able to remap TAB to inventory is a failure on the developers. That's not the only example, it's just one. I don't think I'm going out on a limb by saying that control setups vary to a great degree from person to person. So, it would also be a fact in saying that many gamers disagree with you.
Flight sticks are logical when you're flying. Yes? Okay, next.
I agree that my opinions are my own. And I said as much in my post. It's my view. I feel that co-op in this game is tacked on and cheap. Co-op though, is just simply not my thing. I'll admit, again, this is my opinion. I accept that people will disagree with how I view it.
EVE is likely not the greatest example, as the idea that there could be conflict is not a direct comparison to how NMS works. There is never a chance for conflict. You can't run into other people. But, as I said before, and as you have essentially admitted, you enjoy this type of gameplay. For anyone that enjoys being on your own. Making discoveries in a vast and nearly endless universe. Building your own base, and inviting a few friends to run around causing a ruckus in a purely single player space. This game is as good as any other.
I do want to say though. As a warning to those who are curious. Make sure that this is your preferred type of gameplay. If it isn't, then you'll be disappointed. It's still the same game at it's core.
First planet I am on radiation and toxic atmosphere kills me. Could not find sodium in time.
Get underground as quick as you can. Then start looking around. Getting in a overhead cave will prevent and maybe recover your systems so you can explore. Stay out of storms as much as possible. A storm is coming? Get underground as soon as possible.
Repair your visor as soon as possible so you can use the F key to find sodium, oxygen, et.all.
Any one who played earlier than this update should start a new avatar save so you can find out what you're missing on your original save.
And if you find a salvage ship that's better then your current one then Purchase it for 0 Units. Exchanging ships will cause you to lose your original ship and it's inventory that's still sitting 50 feet away.
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"I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone." Robin Williams
The universe was restarted again. You'll be missing all of the tech you added to your suit, tool and ships. You'll have lost almost all of your recipes. You'll need to rebuild your tool, get a portable refiner, blueprint analyser, base computer, signal booster. You will have kept your unlocked inventory slots.
Once into space you need to take a mission to defend a freighter. Be sure to save your old game before taking this mission. If you screw up you'll only have to recover a few minutes of game time. If you already have a freighter you need to DECLINE the offer of acquiring this new freighter for free. Don't even talk to the freighter admiral after you decline it. Otherwise you'll have a lost your old freighter and now have an B/C 15-18 slot new freighter.
"I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone." Robin Williams
First planet I am on radiation and toxic atmosphere kills me. Could not find sodium in time.
Get underground as quick as you can. Then start looking around. Getting in a overhead cave will prevent and maybe recover your systems so you can explore. Stay out of storms as much as possible. A storm is coming? Get underground as soon as possible.
Repair your visor as soon as possible so you can use the F key to find sodium, oxygen, et.all.
Any one who played earlier than this update should start a new avatar save so you can find out what you're missing on your original save.kkk
And if you find a salvage ship that's better then your current one then Purchase it for 0 Units. Exchanging ships will cause you to lose your original ship and it's inventory that's still sitting 50 feet away.
I purchased a salvage ship for 0 credits. I'm not sure where it still is or what to do with it, but I was hoping I could sell it for the pittance it's worth.
I'll let you find out what you can do with a salvage ship on your own. It's not a big spoiler but it is something to learn.
"I used to think the worst thing in life was to be all alone. It's not. The worst thing in life is to end up with people who make you feel all alone." Robin Williams
All I really know about the game is its sci-fi and was terrible on release..>Can you guys go into a little more detail about the gameplay?
Its a sandbox exploration game set in space. There are more planets than you could possibly visit in a lifetime of playing which were all procedural generated when the game launched. Not sure if they are now fixed ie a Virtual random replica of the universe or its all created on the fly but either way its impressive. Each planet you visit will have different biomes , some have life some dont, some have conditions where you take damage , some dont its all very unique.
The game loop is Exploring, or what i "think" is the point of the game and reaching the center of the universe. The game is kind of grindy in this respect as finding fuel to jump from galaxy to galaxy requires fuel materials that will have you going from planet to planet acquiring mats each time you want to make a jump.
The other really cool thing are the ships which are also procedural generated . Each time you visit a space station multiple random NPC ships will fly in and you have the option of chatting with the alien pilot buying any ship which catches your eye provided you have the credits
There is so much more to the game but the best way to describe this is think Elite Dangerous but not as serious and with more things to do. The graphics in No Mans Sky are fantastic and if you are the type of person who loves exploring in MMO's or RPG's then this game is a must buy, especially at the sale price.
Thanks for the great write up...Sounds right up my alley...I am going to wiat for it to come down a bit more.
I'd say playing Elite Dangerous is more Sci Fi Sim, Much more serious like EVE in the sense that it is a real universe. No Mans Sky is more like a Saturday morning cartoon or a comic book. I dont know if that makes sense but its the best way i can describe it .
I feel like ED has less to do but provides a more realistic setting, like i said a sim experience. No Mans Sky is Arcade with more to do. If you like one i think you will like the other.
I hope landings are fairly easy in NMS. Hearing about the challenges some faced in ED has kept me from trying it even though I bought it in a Steam sale earlier this year.
Yeah the landings in NMS are super easy , you just hit E anywhere you want on a planet and auto land. When you approach a space station you just fly into the light beam and it auto pilots you in.
As far as the the challenges of landing in ED, That was my favorite part TBH. All my time in ED has been spent space trucking. No bountys or mining just simply delivering one good from one planet or station to the next. Its super relaxing and almost zen like. For me its American Truck simulator in space, love it. Landing in ED = Backing your truck into a tight spot in ATS
I think it is only hard because players who never played any Elite games before expected it to be just fly in at max speed like Wing Commander games.
First planet I am on radiation and toxic atmosphere kills me. Could not find sodium in time.
Get underground as quick as you can. Then start looking around. Getting in a overhead cave will prevent and maybe recover your systems so you can explore. Stay out of storms as much as possible. A storm is coming? Get underground as soon as possible.
Repair your visor as soon as possible so you can use the F key to find sodium, oxygen, et.all.
Any one who played earlier than this update should start a new avatar save so you can find out what you're missing on your original save.kkk
And if you find a salvage ship that's better then your current one then Purchase it for 0 Units. Exchanging ships will cause you to lose your original ship and it's inventory that's still sitting 50 feet away.
I purchased a salvage ship for 0 credits. I'm not sure where it still is or what to do with it, but I was hoping I could sell it for the pittance it's worth.
I'll let you find out what you can do with a salvage ship on your own. It's not a big spoiler but it is something to learn.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I'd say playing Elite Dangerous is more Sci Fi Sim, Much more serious like EVE in the sense that it is a real universe. No Mans Sky is more like a Saturday morning cartoon or a comic book. I dont know if that makes sense but its the best way i can describe it .
I feel like ED has less to do but provides a more realistic setting, like i said a sim experience. No Mans Sky is Arcade with more to do. If you like one i think you will like the other.
Hopefully docking is easier in NMS. ED was a nightmare. I think they thought I really wanted to fly an actual space ship, complete with insane UI/key bindings. I'm thinking about picking up NMS...although I prefer combat and PvE character building much more than survival and building structures.
I'd say playing Elite Dangerous is more Sci Fi Sim, Much more serious like EVE in the sense that it is a real universe. No Mans Sky is more like a Saturday morning cartoon or a comic book. I dont know if that makes sense but its the best way i can describe it .
I feel like ED has less to do but provides a more realistic setting, like i said a sim experience. No Mans Sky is Arcade with more to do. If you like one i think you will like the other.
Hopefully docking is easier in NMS. ED was a nightmare. I think they thought I really wanted to fly an actual space ship, complete with insane UI/key bindings. I'm thinking about picking up NMS...although I prefer combat and PvE character building much more than survival and building structures.
It is. In ED you have to follow some basic rules, slow down when nearing the station, contact station to get landing permission and make sure your landing gear is down and for gods sake keep a keybind image guide next to your KB/mouse or hotas/joystick till you know your stuff by heart. It not that difficult unless you have a really bad controller set up. For example I can't play ED to save my life on a controller or with kb/mouse but with a joystick and kb or hotas is sooo much easier for me.
ED is more sim like when it comes to handling and flying but it's no where near DCS level of simulation and people that think ED is super hard to land have never played a real sim and are really looking for arcade type control.
NMS is far more arcady, not saying there's anything wrong with this but they are really different beasts.
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I'm planning to give this a try as well. Greenman has it on 55% off for a steam key if you have an account and get their promotion letters. Same 50% otherwise.
Anyone playing in Asia Timezone? Or NA Daytime? XD
Are they planning a more mmo'ish type of shared experience?
Probably not. They have added multiplayer, and I could see them making small improvements over time.
You can't just convert a basically single player game into a MMO, there are design decisions for each made early on that prohibit a title from really being both a good single player game vs a good MMO.
They would have to make a new game like Bethesda is doing with Fallout 76. (Instead of just adding it to Fallout 4)
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If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
I hate being forced to use a new client as much as the next person, but honestly I can't get mad at them for having the requirement for multiplayer.
I self identify as a monkey.
I'm doing some reading, including the galactic hub (Thx Torval), but it seems kinda light on some of the details.
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
In my case, keyboard remapping, never do it. Hotas support, its not a space simulator, I'm told you land with a press of a button.
Besides, flight sticks are illogical outside of an atmosphere, not exactly controlling the flaps and what not in a vacuum. (Even if Star Wars stupidly shows it happening)
4 player multiplayer is still multiplayer regardless of your personal "true Scotsman" definition.
As for soloing in space, 3/4 of my 10 years in EVE were soloing, after all, space is a vast lonely place where meeting another often ends up in conflict.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Repair your visor as soon as possible so you can use the F key to find sodium, oxygen, et.all.
Any one who played earlier than this update should start a new avatar save so you can find out what you're missing on your original save.
And if you find a salvage ship that's better then your current one then Purchase it for 0 Units. Exchanging ships will cause you to lose your original ship and it's inventory that's still sitting 50 feet away.
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Once into space you need to take a mission to defend a freighter. Be sure to save your old game before taking this mission. If you screw up you'll only have to recover a few minutes of game time. If you already have a freighter you need to DECLINE the offer of acquiring this new freighter for free. Don't even talk to the freighter admiral after you decline it. Otherwise you'll have a lost your old freighter and now have an B/C 15-18 slot new freighter.
Yeah, I'm a dirty cheater.....
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Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Anyone playing in Asia Timezone? Or NA Daytime? XD
I self identify as a monkey.
You can't just convert a basically single player game into a MMO, there are design decisions for each made early on that prohibit a title from really being both a good single player game vs a good MMO.
They would have to make a new game like Bethesda is doing with Fallout 76. (Instead of just adding it to Fallout 4)
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
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