Um, who is this company? Have they even developed a single game, because their website doesn't list any. The fact that they list F2P and console games as their plan as well is a big red flag. Add in that it's a prequel to LOTR, but almost certainly not anything from the silmarillion or lost tales and I am VERY pessimistic on this.
Sorry for the bubble bursting but they made a new development company and didn't list who they are. and frankly, I don't want a developer with zero track record making a LOTRO MMO.
If you look at the text of the full article, LeYou is the corporate owner of the developer of this game. They also own Digital Extremes, devs of Warframe. There's also a link to the devs' site for your investigation.
Um, who is this company? Have they even developed a single game, because their website doesn't list any. The fact that they list F2P and console games as their plan as well is a big red flag. Add in that it's a prequel to LOTR, but almost certainly not anything from the silmarillion or lost tales and I am VERY pessimistic on this.
Sorry for the bubble bursting but they made a new development company and didn't list who they are. and frankly, I don't want a developer with zero track record making a LOTRO MMO.
If you look at the text of the full article, LeYou is the corporate owner of the developer of this game. They also own Digital Extremes, devs of Warframe. There's also a link to the devs' site for your investigation.
Yes I saw that part, but who are the creative leads of this development subsidiary. Who are these experienced developers? They are mentioning the work done by long time company Digital Extremes, but that team isn't making this.
Without finding out who the creative leads are, it's hard to get excited or optimistic. Even having solid leads in a new company means nothing as shown by Hellgate London and Wildstar. Making MMO's is damn hard. Making a solid and successful Middle Earth MMO and not having access to the new line film material is even harder these days.
It reminds me of Red Eagle Entertainment getting the rights to Wheel of Time multimedia back in the day. They also were announced with a nameless press statement.
Normally I would be jumping around like a little kid with this news, but it being developed by an Asian dev and being F2P, makes me think of grindy and far to cash shop intrusive. Will wait for more info, but most likely I will be giving it a pass.
Yup. When I read more into this, my joy instantly vanished!
Asian Dev + F2P means a crap game with a huge payment wall, pay 2 win cash shop and loot boxes!
/moves on again..... nothing to see here.....sadly
I'm happy to see something more in the Tolkien universe be made.
I'm going to do my best to remain cautiously hopeful until more is revealed.
F2P is not a horrible thing to me like others. It depends on how they do it. I also do not want to pass judgment on the developer just because they're Asian. That's just racist. I will wait to see how they act, and just what their product is upon release.
All I can say is that this news woke me up faster than my entire pot of coffee! I will be watching closely! WOOT!
Let me pour cold water over you. Don't get so hyped. The new dev is completely unknown. Remember beHavior and Eternal Crusade? Besides, if Turbine, absolute veterans of MMO genre didn't manage to make a "worthwhile" mmo, what makes you think these randoms will? Regardless, I'd rather have a proper LoTR RPG. Imagine DA:O or TES set in LoTR...
Speaking of DA:O, it's on sale for 3 bucks on Steam right now.
So many jaded people here. It's almost like they've been let down a bunch by the genre titles not living up to the expectations, and promises of developers.
Big veterans have been failing the genre recently, it's time for new blood to give it a try. Being F2P it's not hurting anyone.
I’m always amazed at how quick people are to dismiss new projects. ESO has proven conclusively that F2P can be a vastly superior format in today’s gaming environment. There are more than enough whales that are happy to purchase cosmetic items from the cash shop. Constant DLC with an optional sub makes for a great game.
Welcome to the boards!
There is one factor that connects all the best F2P games, they started off as subscription only.
So many jaded people here. It's almost like they've been let down a bunch by the genre titles not living up to the expectations, and promises of developers.
Big veterans have been failing the genre recently, it's time for new blood to give it a try. Being F2P it's not hurting anyone.
You are ignoring history if you are excited for this game by a completely unknown developer. It's very telling that they haven't given the names of the people behind it, which tells me they spent money for the license but don't even have the pieces in place.
Get excited for it if you want to, but there is literally nothing of substance behind this yet. If they don't have leads in place yet, how can they even have a polished initial design. That's a big ask for any MMO, but a middle earth MMO that takes place before LOTR events? All of the red flags are here.
Well i love the IP and have played lotro for years on and off so i will definetly follow the progress. But we need more info
I am a scizo misanthrope. So one day I may go BANZAI on your post. Have not yet though. Maybe there is hope? Nah there is really none for me or the human race.
So many jaded people here. It's almost like they've been let down a bunch by the genre titles not living up to the expectations, and promises of developers.
Big veterans have been failing the genre recently, it's time for new blood to give it a try. Being F2P it's not hurting anyone.
You are ignoring history if you are excited for this game by a completely unknown developer. It's very telling that they haven't given the names of the people behind it, which tells me they spent money for the license but don't even have the pieces in place.
Get excited for it if you want to, but there is literally nothing of substance behind this yet. If they don't have leads in place yet, how can they even have a polished initial design. That's a big ask for any MMO, but a middle earth MMO that takes place before LOTR events? All of the red flags are here.
Yes but history has also shown good work form unknown developers. Who were CD Projekt Red before the Witcher?
Or Bioware with Baldur's gate?
Doom was created by two "guys" with moderate success with Wolfenstein but pretty much commander keen right?
It's really more about the talent and vision and design of the people involved. Having some experience making an actual mmorpg is a huge help and will probably make or break the project at this point.
Can they do it? Meh, I was disappointed with the Neverwinter when it came out so here's to this developer not creating something like that.
We'll wait and see.
For me the "excitement" is that someone is actually going to try. As opposed to "not trying" which is never good.
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I’m always amazed at how quick people are to dismiss new projects. ESO has proven conclusively that F2P can be a vastly superior format in today’s gaming environment. There are more than enough whales that are happy to purchase cosmetic items from the cash shop. Constant DLC with an optional sub makes for a great game.
So superior that they added loot boxes. I'm sure that had nothing to do with cash flow though. Also, I thought ESO was B2P? Did that change?
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.
Normally I would be jumping around like a little kid with this news, but it being developed by an Asian dev and being F2P, makes me think of grindy and far to cash shop intrusive. Will wait for more info, but most likely I will be giving it a pass.
Yup. When I read more into this, my joy instantly vanished!
Asian Dev + F2P means a crap game with a huge payment wall, pay 2 win cash shop and loot boxes!
/moves on again..... nothing to see here.....sadly
The developers are in California
Pfft.. The Little China neighborhood in Los Angeles, CA! Same thing!
Normally I would be jumping around like a little kid with this news, but it being developed by an Asian dev and being F2P, makes me think of grindy and far to cash shop intrusive. Will wait for more info, but most likely I will be giving it a pass.
Yup. When I read more into this, my joy instantly vanished!
Asian Dev + F2P means a crap game with a huge payment wall, pay 2 win cash shop and loot boxes!
/moves on again..... nothing to see here.....sadly
The developers are in California
Pfft.. The Little China neighborhood in Los Angeles, CA! Same thing!
Burbank
DAMN IT! Gimme a few days- I'll find another way to connect these "dots."
Yes but history has also shown good work form unknown developers. Who were CD Projekt Red before the Witcher?
Or Bioware with Baldur's gate?
Doom was created by two "guys" with moderate success with Wolfenstein but pretty much commander keen right?
That's correct and I agree with the idea, just not with the examples... except maybe Bioware, but even in their case the era was different, an unknown team with 3 guys alone really could make something amazing. Not so much in the current market.
As for the other examples, id wasn't just 2 guys and Wolf3D was not simply a moderate success, it was just as a tech marvel as Doom after it. (plus yep, they had a couple games before, definitely not an unknown team.)
CDP also wasn't popping out into the world with Witcher, they were on the market years before (a nice tie to the Bioware example, the core of the first Witcher was from a porting project about Baldur's Gate). True that CDP Red was separated later, however. NoClip had a video about them recently, probably in relation with the FckDRM launch: https://youtu.be/ffngZOB1U2A
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Is there even a single successful AAA F2P MMO? WOW, FF14, ESO and GW2 certainly aren't. POE isn't even an MMO.
SWTOR and STO were forced to move to F2P and both carry major stigmas.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Asian Dev + F2P means a crap game with a huge payment wall, pay 2 win cash shop and loot boxes!
/moves on again..... nothing to see here.....sadly
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There is one factor that connects all the best F2P games, they started off as subscription only.
Have not yet though. Maybe there is hope?
Nah there is really none for me or the human race.
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So superior that they added loot boxes. I'm sure that had nothing to do with cash flow though. Also, I thought ESO was B2P? Did that change?
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
As for the other examples, id wasn't just 2 guys and Wolf3D was not simply a moderate success, it was just as a tech marvel as Doom after it. (plus yep, they had a couple games before, definitely not an unknown team.)
CDP also wasn't popping out into the world with Witcher, they were on the market years before (a nice tie to the Bioware example, the core of the first Witcher was from a porting project about Baldur's Gate). True that CDP Red was separated later, however.
NoClip had a video about them recently, probably in relation with the FckDRM launch: https://youtu.be/ffngZOB1U2A