I definitely find Luke and Scully distracting, will always think of them in game as Luke and Scully, and would have preferred their voice with a different body.
Oh I'm the opposite! If I recognize a famous voice and the character playing it is not the actor then it distracts, it's like the voice of Morgan Freeman coming out of some random dude character.
They're doing it again. Misrepresenting the truth about the state of SQ42 to get donations. These guys are really slimy.
lol, every game dev in this planet can do trailers of their game, CIG can without being the "devil".
And several parts of that trailers were on the gameplay walkthrough demo they did of SQ42, so what exactly misrepresents SQ42 there? Or is it just the fact "how evil CIG dares to do trailers to hype their product before it gets released"?
Stop it dude. Quit comparing crowdfunded titles to producer-funded titles like crowdfunded titles should be able to act the exact same way with regards to marketing.
It's ignorant, and at this point you know as much.
No, I won't stop. Crowdfunded on not, game development is game development on independent of how the budget is funded. Crowdfunded or not, a company is a company, and it will like any company, have the same type of inner workings.
So I am going to compare, call me ignorant all you want, the how the game studio is funded does not change the reality of development and its overall business aspect.
To me, attacking a company for releasing a trailer of game scenes (as standard on the typical cinematic story-driven game) before the game is released is what is ignorant and perfect example of double standards. ~~mumbles away
To act as if a project's source of funding should have no bearing on how it utilizes its funding isn't just ignorant in this specific instance; it's ignorant in life in general.
Even the government recognizes that not all funding sources are equal.
To act as if a project's source of funding should have no bearing on how it utilizes its funding isn't just ignorant in this specific instance; it's ignorant in life in general.
Crowdfunding is a way of funding, it doesn't make the company being funded stop being a business. So things like marketing such as trailers, the PR and all that jazz, are nothing but part of the normal business of a company.
What crowdfunding mostly changes, is the whole interaction with the community that pledged for the product they are liable to deliver them.
You want to pretend that what I am saying is "petty garbage," but the reason you are so riled up is because you know I'm right. They are misrepresenting their progress on SQ42 to get donations.
There is a reason they didn't announce even a hint of an estimate for release or beta or whatever. It's because the sole purpose of this video is to hype people to give them money. They know that people will interpret it as SQ42 being somewhat close to finishing.
They will do this exact same thing next year as well. And there will be no date given.
Yep.
He knows how trailers work and the expectations they bring and calls it the "E3 effect" which let's face it is just the reality of how trailers work. They get released when something is announced and when something is close to launch. Many trailers also include the expected release date.
When a trailer gets released it's pretty common to assume it's coming soon.
Unless it's Star Citizen then you better assume it's not coming anytime soon, but hey here's a trailer anyway to make people think it might be. Totally not misrepresenting anything.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
To act as if a project's source of funding should have no bearing on how it utilizes its funding isn't just ignorant in this specific instance; it's ignorant in life in general.
Crowdfunding is a way of funding, it doesn't make the company being funded stop being a business. So things like marketing such as trailers, the PR and all that jazz, are nothing but part of the normal business of a company.
What crowdfunding mostly changes, is the whole interaction with the community that pledged for the product to deliver them.
Let's not act as if SCs core base isn't going to continually fund the project without a convention. The convention and this trailer isn't keeping CIG afloat, and we both know that.
I don't get it. Why release a trailer with no release date in sight?
Seems kinda weird. More so if the game is still 2-3 years out, or more. Especially after how long they have already been in development.
Unless @BeansnBread has a point about them misrepresenting stuff...
You could ask the same to CD ProjectRed, Ubisoft, Bethesda and probably any other AAA studio lol
As much as you guys are desperate to play a game as ambitious as this one you have to keep your perspective and not let the frustration get the best of your emotions.
He knows how trailers work and the expectations they bring and calls it the "E3 effect" which let's face it is just the reality of how trailers work. They get released when something is announced and when something is close to launch. Many trailers also include the expected release date.
When a trailer gets released it's pretty common to assume it's coming soon.
Unless it's Star Citizen then you better assume it's not coming anytime soon, but hey here's a trailer anyway to make people think it might be. Totally not misrepresenting anything.
There are trailers that include release dates, there are trailers who don't. Now I hope you smart enough to figure out that when a trailer appears and has no release date, then the logical perception is that the game is not close to release otherwise there would be a date.
Because I am a fan of Kingdom Hears, and I have been waiting for the 3rd for the LONGEST time, they have for many years shown trailers with gameplay of the game, but never a date was mentioned, and my perception was not that "oh look gameplay looks good game is about to release!", it was instead "damn no release date yet".
Or do you think that is not the logical perception?
I don't get it. Why release a trailer with no release date in sight?
Seems kinda weird. More so if the game is still 2-3 years out, or more. Especially after how long they have already been in development.
Unless @BeansnBread has a point about them misrepresenting stuff...
You could ask the same to CD ProjectRed, Ubisoft, Bethesda and probably any other AAA studio lol
As much as you guys are desperate to play a game as ambitious as this one you have to keep your perspective and not let the frustration get the best of your emotions.
have any of these company asked for player money BEFORE the game was done and with a launch date ready?
Yeah it's called pre-orders and funding by private investors/shareholders lol
How do you think pays for the dev's working year after year to get games made?
Dude, you've gotten consistently worse in your time spamming here about SC.
Pre-orders funding the development of the AAA published game?? Da fuq planet are you on? This even directly contradicts your statements bitching at others about how AAA publushed games take just as long as SC, we just don't hear about it. How the fuck would pre-orders fund development before the title is even announced to the public?
Trying to pass off shareholders as identical to crowdfunding backers? What?
You want to pretend that what I am saying is "petty garbage," but the reason you are so riled up is because you know I'm right. They are misrepresenting their progress on SQ42 to get donations.
There is a reason they didn't announce even a hint of an estimate for release or beta or whatever. It's because the sole purpose of this video is to hype people to give them money. They know that people will interpret it as SQ42 being somewhat close to finishing.
They will do this exact same thing next year as well. And there will be no date given.
No, because your argument is petty garbage, not what you are saying, what I am saying about what you are saying. lol
Guess what! Trailers before the product is released and even the release trailers, are meant to hype people into buying / getting interested into buying the product. Why do you think Pre-Orders exist?!
And indeed no release date was given for SQ42, so any smart person will know it's not somewhat close to finishing, I think everyone here kinda knows that when a game is announced and shares trailer but dates, that game is not near completion independent on how good the trailers look. I think it's rather logical to percieve it as such.
What do you mean, wasn't SQ42 release date supposed to be 2015? Roberts sad that in December 2014 live stream.
What do you mean, wasn't SQ42 release date supposed to be 2015? Roberts sad that in December 2014 live stream.
SQ42 was delayed multiple times, as so was SC, but as it current stands both titles do not have a release date, hence why no date is mentioned on the trailer, neither on the pages of the game.
What do you mean, wasn't SQ42 release date supposed to be 2015? Roberts sad that in December 2014 live stream.
SQ42 was delayed multiple times, as so was SC, but as it current stands both titles do not have a release date, hence why no date is mentioned on the trailer, neither on the pages of the game.
have any of these company asked for player money BEFORE the game was done and with a launch date ready?
Yeah it's called pre-orders and funding by private investors/shareholders lol
How do you think pays for the dev's working year after year to get games made?
Dude, you've gotten consistently worse in your time spamming here about SC.
Pre-orders funding the development of the AAA published game?? Da fuq planet are you on? This even directly contradicts your statements bitching at others about how AAA publushed games take just as long as SC, we just don't hear about it. How the fuck would pre-orders fund development before the title is even announced to the public?
Trying to pass off shareholders as identical to crowdfunding backers? What?
If you're going to barge into a conversation at least take the time to read the topic and the context. Thanks.
Hey news flash guys every company who's game missed a release date are LIARS lol ! You can't make this up can you
I just got an email that talks about SQ42. So they've sent out a summery of their progress. I'm sure people who are really into the game will provide more information.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
heh, when it fits the discussion gets derailed to not admit defeat on the argument this all started on, "the trailer misrepresents SQ42 because people think the game is close to release"... hmmm!
have any of these company asked for player money BEFORE the game was done and with a launch date ready?
Yeah it's called pre-orders and funding by private investors/shareholders lol
How do you think pays for the dev's working year after year to get games made?
Dude, you've gotten consistently worse in your time spamming here about SC.
Pre-orders funding the development of the AAA published game?? Da fuq planet are you on? This even directly contradicts your statements bitching at others about how AAA publushed games take just as long as SC, we just don't hear about it. How the fuck would pre-orders fund development before the title is even announced to the public?
Trying to pass off shareholders as identical to crowdfunding backers? What?
If you're going to barge into a conversation at least take the time to read the topic and the context. Thanks.
Hey news flash guys every company who's game missed a release date are LIARS lol ! You can't make this up can you
The context is self-contained in the quote boxes included in my post.
You have gotten to the point where you spout off the same nonsensical points, sleazy salesman-style, every time someone posts something criticizing CIG.
If their criticism doesn't fall neatly into the category of one of those points, you completely ignore it and try to imply they made one of those points, or you just kind mouth off ad-lib style about haters.
It's become more and more pathetic to watch this shit go down between the knights and the haters. What's ironic is that as more and more of the game gets developed, you guys should have more ammunitiion for valid counters to criticism, but you knights have only gotten less and less valid with your responses.
He knows how trailers work and the expectations they bring and calls it the "E3 effect" which let's face it is just the reality of how trailers work. They get released when something is announced and when something is close to launch. Many trailers also include the expected release date.
When a trailer gets released it's pretty common to assume it's coming soon.
Unless it's Star Citizen then you better assume it's not coming anytime soon, but hey here's a trailer anyway to make people think it might be. Totally not misrepresenting anything.
There are trailers that include release dates, there are trailers who don't. Now I hope you smart enough to figure out that when a trailer appears and has no release date, then the logical perception is that the game is not close to release otherwise there would be a date.
Because I am a fan of Kingdom Hears, and I have been waiting for the 3rd for the LONGEST time, they have for many years shown trailers with gameplay of the game, but never a date was mentioned, and my perception was not that "oh look gameplay looks good game is about to release!", it was instead "damn no release date yet".
Or do you think that is not the logical perception?
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if you said you watched a trailer for a video game without a release date and said, "Can't wait to play that in ten plus years!".
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
One thing is sure, the longer the games take to release the higher the level of criticism. Happens for every game that takes a long time to deliver and will be magnified for CIG because of the amount of player backing.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
The same old Yada Yada Yada with armchair dev's criticizing about stuff they have no clue about.
That was boring back in 2015 and No, haters and critics are not worth of the time of long and detailed posts explaining why they are wrong again and again lol
It's all been said over and over and it's pointless to go over it again and again every time a troll or cynic feels the need to express "their" emotional distresses with the usual hyperbolic ignorant accusations or "theories".
The games are in development and a playable version has been in backers computers since 2013 and been updated ever since. So yes, backers will share content, news, patch updates, gameplay in gaming forums.
Haters will keep hating because that's all they got left lol
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if you said you watched a trailer for a video game without a release date and said, "Can't wait to play that in ten plus years!".
But it is the logical thing, if it doesn't have a date there's no point on pretending it does, because every trailer will look like a finished game those months from release and those years from release.
It's why I mentioned Kingdom Hearts 3 because it's like the trailers, literally 1 trailer a year for many years already, but never a date, so I don't find any sense to expect the game is coming soon out of a trailer looking good, because the moment it is coming soon there will always be a date attached.
The same old Yada Yada Yada with armchair dev's criticizing about stuff they have no clue lol
That was boring back in 2015 and no haters and critics are not worth of the time of long and detailed posts explaining why they are wrong lol
It's all been said over and over and it's pointless to go over it again and again every time a troll or cynic feels the need to express "their" emotional distresses with the usual hyperbolic ignorant accusations or "theories".
The game is in development, backers share content, news, patch updates, gameplay etc
haters keep hating because that's all they got left lol
Cultists keep culting because that's all they got.
lol
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if you said you watched a trailer for a video game without a release date and said, "Can't wait to play that in ten plus years!".
But it is the logical thing, if it doesn't have a date there's no point on pretending it does, because every trailer will look like a finished game those months from release and those years from release.
It's why I mentioned Kingdom Hearts 3 because it's like the trailers, literally 1 trailer a year for many years already, but never a date, so I don't find any sense to expect the game is coming soon out of a trailer looking good, because the moment it is coming soon there will always be a date attached.
Uh huh...
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Even the government recognizes that not all funding sources are equal.
What crowdfunding mostly changes, is the whole interaction with the community that pledged for the product they are liable to deliver them.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/We all wait to see if the spaceship actually comes to pick up anybody, and if it does do the worshiping plebs get to get on board too.
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Because I am a fan of Kingdom Hears, and I have been waiting for the 3rd for the LONGEST time, they have for many years shown trailers with gameplay of the game, but never a date was mentioned, and my perception was not that "oh look gameplay looks good game is about to release!", it was instead "damn no release date yet".
Or do you think that is not the logical perception?
Pre-orders funding the development of the AAA published game?? Da fuq planet are you on? This even directly contradicts your statements bitching at others about how AAA publushed games take just as long as SC, we just don't hear about it. How the fuck would pre-orders fund development before the title is even announced to the public?
Trying to pass off shareholders as identical to crowdfunding backers? What?
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
It seems a monthly report specific for SQ42, we've only had SC ones with rare mentions of SQ42.
You have gotten to the point where you spout off the same nonsensical points, sleazy salesman-style, every time someone posts something criticizing CIG.
If their criticism doesn't fall neatly into the category of one of those points, you completely ignore it and try to imply they made one of those points, or you just kind mouth off ad-lib style about haters.
It's become more and more pathetic to watch this shit go down between the knights and the haters. What's ironic is that as more and more of the game gets developed, you guys should have more ammunitiion for valid counters to criticism, but you knights have only gotten less and less valid with your responses.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
It's why I mentioned Kingdom Hearts 3 because it's like the trailers, literally 1 trailer a year for many years already, but never a date, so I don't find any sense to expect the game is coming soon out of a trailer looking good, because the moment it is coming soon there will always be a date attached.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/