Why do people have to sign up for this? Its not like they don't know who to send the bags to.
Hoping some people miss it out and they save a few more bucks while being able to say, we offered a replacement, too bad you missed it.
Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics. Reply Add Multi-Quote
What triggers me the most. There is no "We apologize for the inconvenient" in that whole tweet. Nothing.
They act like a kid who's parents told them to apologize to another kid.
IDK why it would trigger you. I think some of you guys still think you're dealing with a friendly mom and pop game studio instead of a very large corporation.
They tweeted exactly what the legal department told them to tweet. Part of that is not admitting wrongdoing.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
This still screws over all the people who buy it after the cutoff date for submitting the request. I wonder how many are still sitting on shelves yet to be sold.
If they really wanted to make it right, they would create enough to cover/replace all bags produced.
Just saying it's crap with no explanation does nothing for your argument... What is "crap" or "soulless" about it? Only problem I have with it so far is the lack of friendly NPC's that aren't dead. It's pretty much a mixture of survival and FO4, which is a great improvement over previous FO games.
Just saying it's crap with no explanation does nothing for your argument... What is "crap" or "soulless" about it? Only problem I have with it so far is the lack of friendly NPC's that aren't dead. It's pretty much a mixture of survival and FO4, which is a great improvement over previous FO games.
An improvement? That is really so out there it must be sarcasm.
Just saying it's crap with no explanation does nothing for your argument... What is "crap" or "soulless" about it? Only problem I have with it so far is the lack of friendly NPC's that aren't dead. It's pretty much a mixture of survival and FO4, which is a great improvement over previous FO games.
An improvement? That is really so out there it must be sarcasm.
I think this game must be for people who actually don't like Fallout.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Just saying it's crap with no explanation does nothing for your argument... What is "crap" or "soulless" about it? Only problem I have with it so far is the lack of friendly NPC's that aren't dead. It's pretty much a mixture of survival and FO4, which is a great improvement over previous FO games.
FO has always been an RPG driven by hand-crafted PvE content on top of large open worlds. They ripped out the most pertinent portion of this content (NPCs involved in said PvE content) to make a survival game, one that isn't even particularly well-created or incredibly innovative in the survival realm.
Conversely, it barely qualifies itself as multiplayer. If D:OS2 had taken out all the NPCs and their associated quest/mission content and just thrown their players together in Fort Joy, you would have the same complaints. Just another example of big pubs/devs believing their fanbases will consume absolutely anything they decide to throw at them. Couple that with Bethesda's infamous buggy as hell release which can't be fixed, this time, by modders.... And I find it hard to believe that anyone could be incredulous about the negativity.
If you're going to remove one of your franchise's most popular features, you better damn well be sure the systems you're replacing it with are fun enough to make up for it for your fans. Bethesda failed here.
Story has never been the main attraction for multiplayer games. They may as well have made it singleplayer with all the fuss about a lack of narrative. It seems they wanted to branch out to fans of other genres and the fans of the previous games are having a hard time coming to terms with that. They may have lost more players than they gained with their outreach. They want some MTX income, and players who just want story probably wouldn't stick around to even glance at the store anyways.
Story has never been the main attraction for multiplayer games. They may as well have made it singleplayer with all the fuss about a lack of narrative. It seems they wanted to branch out to fans of other genres and the fans of the previous games are having a hard time coming to terms with that. They may have lost more players than they gained with their outreach. They want some MTX income, and players who just want story probably wouldn't stick around to even glance at the store anyways.
I agree, it hasn't ever been a focus in most multiplayer but for better or worse, many thought Fallout with friends would mean Fallout in total with friends, and I don't think that was an unreasonable expectation prior to things like BETA where players got got hands-on experience. And it isn't impossible; I cite Original Sin 2 for a reason, and that's because it literally maintains the exact same narrative content whether you play alone or with 3 other people.
And Bethesda lost players for sure going multiplayer, but I think they could've lost a lot less if they had actually released a polished product. Fans would've had to give them credit for releasing a game that isn't infamously buggy as their previous titles were.
It's like Bethesda left in all the cons they've always had, then gambled on replacing the narrative form with multiplayer and a watered down narrative, instead of just supplementing the personal experience of previous Fallout with the ability to bring along a buddy.
Why do people have to sign up for this? Its not like they don't know who to send the bags to.
Just bare minimum effort! They just hope that the vast majority won't notice until it's too late, so they only have to actually order a handful canvas bags.
Corporate greed at it's finest!
The whole Power Armor Edition was already a huge rip-off and then trying to pull a fast one on those buying this just makes me sick.
The whole gaming industry is getting more and more rotten to the core! The whole crap with Overpriced Cash Shops, Loot boxes, ingame gambling, etc. It just gets harder and harder to find a decent game these days that isn't somehow infested by Corporate greed that tries to nickel and dime you at every turn.
Bethesda has now officially made it to my greedy scam corporation list alongside Activision, EA, TRION, PWE/Cryptic, etc.
Honestly, it's 100% damage control and, at least to my thinking, too little too late. I mean, it's fabulous that people will get what was promised, but it doesn't smack of good will, just full blown damage control which never feels good.
You too!? Wow....I am no fan boy, but this is worse then when the first AoC hit and everyone was all up in arms and wanted Funcom to burn to the ground.....all this hate was non stop bandwagon jumping, and I am disappointed to see you on one of the wagons SBFord....
Honestly, it's 100% damage control and, at least to my thinking, too little too late. I mean, it's fabulous that people will get what was promised, but it doesn't smack of good will, just full blown damage control which never feels good.
You too!? Wow....I am no fan boy, but this is worse then when the first AoC hit and everyone was all up in arms and wanted Funcom to burn to the ground.....all this hate was non stop bandwagon jumping, and I am disappointed to see you on one of the wagons SBFord....
Funcom false advertised Game features on the back of the retail game box, that were not in the game and never arrived to this day.
It's called False advertising!
Same now with Bethesda! But with Bethesda it's far worse! They advertise a 200 dollar special edition, clearly advertising a "Canvas" bag and then ship a cheap nylon bag instead to pull a fast one on their customers! You can't sink any lower than that as a Game Studio and ruin your reputation in the process!
I have no idea what those suits at Bethesda were thinking when making that idiotic decision to save a few pennies on an already overpriced product and then trying to rip people off even more by not delivering the product that was advertised! Basically opening them up for legal action!
Some heads need to roll over this, but I have a feeling this came from the very top and nothing will happen.
So yes, She is spot on with this being Damage Control. They desperately trying to salvage what they can from this ridiculous and completely unnecessary situation they got themselves in, what could have been totally avoided if they just delivered what was advertised in the first place!
Or are you perfectly okay when you order for example an expensive Leather jacket and then get a cheap plastic jacket delivered instead?
Companies shouldn't be able to get away with these kind of scam practices! Bethesda is no different in this.
The problem (and fix) as I see it are gaming companies are spending too much time, effort, and resources on bonus items. Stick to what you do best, making games.
Why do people have to sign up for this? Its not like they don't know who to send the bags to.
I imagine it'd be a logistics nightmare for the distributors. The gamestops, best buys, walmarts, etc. would have to comb through their databases for each person who had purchased Fallout 76 power armor editions, then email a massive dump to Bethesda all at once as well as verify that each customer who had bought it still lives at the address they were at when they had bought the game. Likewise any gift power armor editions purchased would have the canvas bag sent to the gifter instead of the person who actually received the game, the resellers on ebay would end up getting the canvas bag instead of the people who bought them instead.
All-in-all, it'd be much easier for everyone involved for the sign-up because someone fills out the form with the receipt number, bethesda calls the distributor and asks if the receipt is valid, distributor says yes, and bag is sent to the form's address instead of what could possibly be someone else's house or a reseller who then resells the bag that the poor shmuck who bought the game off them is screwed out of.
It would of been better if they didn't deliver the bags ... they should of made a video instead with them giving the same responses they did , deal with it! shu now! .. this only made it worse.
then they would have been successfully sued, the switch with the bags was textbook false advertising....and I guarantee you that their corporate lawyer informed them of such once there was talk of a class action lawsuit.
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They act like a kid who's parents told them to apologize to another kid.
Hoping some people miss it out and they save a few more bucks while being able to say, we offered a replacement, too bad you missed it.
Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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They tweeted exactly what the legal department told them to tweet. Part of that is not admitting wrongdoing.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
If they really wanted to make it right, they would create enough to cover/replace all bags produced.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Conversely, it barely qualifies itself as multiplayer. If D:OS2 had taken out all the NPCs and their associated quest/mission content and just thrown their players together in Fort Joy, you would have the same complaints. Just another example of big pubs/devs believing their fanbases will consume absolutely anything they decide to throw at them. Couple that with Bethesda's infamous buggy as hell release which can't be fixed, this time, by modders.... And I find it hard to believe that anyone could be incredulous about the negativity.
If you're going to remove one of your franchise's most popular features, you better damn well be sure the systems you're replacing it with are fun enough to make up for it for your fans. Bethesda failed here.
And Bethesda lost players for sure going multiplayer, but I think they could've lost a lot less if they had actually released a polished product. Fans would've had to give them credit for releasing a game that isn't infamously buggy as their previous titles were.
It's like Bethesda left in all the cons they've always had, then gambled on replacing the narrative form with multiplayer and a watered down narrative, instead of just supplementing the personal experience of previous Fallout with the ability to bring along a buddy.
Just bare minimum effort! They just hope that the vast majority won't notice until it's too late, so they only have to actually order a handful canvas bags.
Corporate greed at it's finest!
The whole Power Armor Edition was already a huge rip-off and then trying to pull a fast one on those buying this just makes me sick.
The whole gaming industry is getting more and more rotten to the core! The whole crap with Overpriced Cash Shops, Loot boxes, ingame gambling, etc. It just gets harder and harder to find a decent game these days that isn't somehow infested by Corporate greed that tries to nickel and dime you at every turn.
Bethesda has now officially made it to my greedy scam corporation list alongside Activision, EA, TRION, PWE/Cryptic, etc.
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
You too!? Wow....I am no fan boy, but this is worse then when the first AoC hit and everyone was all up in arms and wanted Funcom to burn to the ground.....all this hate was non stop bandwagon jumping, and I am disappointed to see you on one of the wagons SBFord....
It's called False advertising!
Same now with Bethesda! But with Bethesda it's far worse! They advertise a 200 dollar special edition, clearly advertising a "Canvas" bag and then ship a cheap nylon bag instead to pull a fast one on their customers!
You can't sink any lower than that as a Game Studio and ruin your reputation in the process!
I have no idea what those suits at Bethesda were thinking when making that idiotic decision to save a few pennies on an already overpriced product and then trying to rip people off even more by not delivering the product that was advertised! Basically opening them up for legal action!
Some heads need to roll over this, but I have a feeling this came from the very top and nothing will happen.
So yes, She is spot on with this being Damage Control. They desperately trying to salvage what they can from this ridiculous and completely unnecessary situation they got themselves in, what could have been totally avoided if they just delivered what was advertised in the first place!
Or are you perfectly okay when you order for example an expensive Leather jacket and then get a cheap plastic jacket delivered instead?
Companies shouldn't be able to get away with these kind of scam practices! Bethesda is no different in this.
All-in-all, it'd be much easier for everyone involved for the sign-up because someone fills out the form with the receipt number, bethesda calls the distributor and asks if the receipt is valid, distributor says yes, and bag is sent to the form's address instead of what could possibly be someone else's house or a reseller who then resells the bag that the poor shmuck who bought the game off them is screwed out of.