And cmacq, please don't give personal suggestions to technical issue you don't know the context to or scope of. Would you like to go down the list of people in that megathread and tell each and every one to load their game on an SSD and see just how many are already using one with no benefit to the loading bugs?
Sorry but no I will not quit giving people suggestions and there is nothing "personal" about them. If you have loading problems and you have the game on an HDD the very first thing you look at is moving it to your SSD. That is a no-brainer. I know because I did that and it made an enormous difference. If you have also done that and still have loading issues well at least we have eliminated that as your problem. Trouble shooting on PCs should always be done one step at a time.
It's a personal suggestion because you gave it on a personal basis, that's all the word meant there.
And the problem with your suggestion is an assumption, that wasn't even grounded in what I'd personally said. When I note other people are having load issues, and you suggest I should swap my drives around without even knowing what drives I use, do you not see how your comment has a disconnect with reality as a result?
Troubleshooting should be done with a hardware diagnostic first, not a shoot-from-the-hip random suggestion.
And cmacq, please don't give personal suggestions to technical issue you don't know the context to or scope of. Would you like to go down the list of people in that megathread and tell each and every one to load their game on an SSD and see just how many are already using one with no benefit to the loading bugs?
Sorry but no I will not quit giving people suggestions and there is nothing "personal" about them. If you have loading problems and you have the game on an HDD the very first thing you look at is moving it to your SSD. That is a no-brainer. I know because I did that and it made an enormous difference. If you have also done that and still have loading issues well at least we have eliminated that as your problem. Trouble shooting on PCs should always be done one step at a time.
It's a personal suggestion because you gave it on a personal basis, that's all the word meant there.
And the problem with your suggestion is an assumption, that wasn't even grounded in what I'd personally said. When I note other people are having load issues, and you suggest I should swap my drives around without even knowing what drives I use, do you not see how your comment has a disconnect with reality as a result?
Troubleshooting should be done with a hardware diagnostic first, not a shoot-from-the-hip random suggestion.
You're really not making any sense at all here. I built PCs for more than 25 years. I know what I'm talking about. There's nothing "random" or "shoot from the hip about it". Honestly you sound like someone who doesn't know the difference between the two storage devices.
Anyone with half a brain can figure out if they have the game on their SSD and it's still not functioning properly they can ignore my suggestion.
It's a personal suggestion because you gave it on a personal basis, that's all the word meant there.
And the problem with your suggestion is an assumption, that wasn't even grounded in what I'd personally said. When I note other people are having load issues, and you suggest I should swap my drives around without even knowing what drives I use, do you not see how your comment has a disconnect with reality as a result?
Troubleshooting should be done with a hardware diagnostic first, not a shoot-from-the-hip random suggestion.
You're really not making any sense at all here. I built PCs for more than 25 years. I know what I'm talking about. There's nothing "random" or "shoot from the hip about it". Honestly you sound like someone who doesn't know the difference between the two storage devices.
Anyone with half a brain can figure out if they have the game on their SSD and it's still not functioning properly they can ignore my suggestion.
For someone that claims they know what they're talking about, you seem to lack a familiarity with standard procedure, dxdiag, and similar standard hardware diagnostics.
Knowing what the hardware is first is normal most anywhere. Random guesses will narrow you down over time, but it's highly inefficient to play 20 questions every time you troubleshoot something.
You might as well have said "did you try turning it off and on again?"
And cmacq, please don't give personal suggestions to technical issue you don't know the context to or scope of. Would you like to go down the list of people in that megathread and tell each and every one to load their game on an SSD and see just how many are already using one with no benefit to the loading bugs?
Sorry but no I will not quit giving people suggestions and there is nothing "personal" about them. If you have loading problems and you have the game on an HDD the very first thing you look at is moving it to your SSD. That is a no-brainer. I know because I did that and it made an enormous difference. If you have also done that and still have loading issues well at least we have eliminated that as your problem. Trouble shooting on PCs should always be done one step at a time.
It's a personal suggestion because you gave it on a personal basis, that's all the word meant there.
And the problem with your suggestion is an assumption, that wasn't even grounded in what I'd personally said. When I note other people are having load issues, and you suggest I should swap my drives around without even knowing what drives I use, do you not see how your comment has a disconnect with reality as a result?
Troubleshooting should be done with a hardware diagnostic first, not a shoot-from-the-hip random suggestion.
You're really not making any sense at all here. I built PCs for more than 25 years. I know what I'm talking about. There's nothing "random" or "shoot from the hip about it". Honestly you sound like someone who doesn't know the difference between the two storage devices.
Anyone with half a brain can figure out if they have the game on their SSD and it's still not functioning properly they can ignore my suggestion.
For someone that claims you know what you're talking about, you seem to lack a familiarity with standard procedure, dxdiag, and standard hardware diagnostics.
Knowing what the hardware is first is normal most anywhere. Random guesses will narrow you down over time, but it's highly inefficient to play 20 questions every time you troubleshoot something.
OK last reply here. This is not guesswork. Your solid state drive runs read data to your computer like a Ferrari. Your hard disk drive runs the same data like a Volkswagen Bus by comparison. There are no diagnostics required to realize that you put the data on the faster drive if the game has loading screen issues.
I also have a 3TB hdd and most of my games run fine from there. Anthem is not one of them. There are no diagnostics needed because your computer is not broken. You're simply choosing the faster drive to put the game on.
As you have pointed out: that solution doesn't fix the problem for everyone and a lot of the complaints we hear are from console people so that's a whole 'nother thing.
Knowing what the hardware is first is normal most anywhere. Random guesses will narrow you down over time, but it's highly inefficient to play 20 questions every time you troubleshoot something.
OK last reply here. This is not guesswork. Your solid state drive runs read data to your computer like a Ferrari. Your hard disk drive runs the same data like a Volkswagen Bus by comparison. There are no diagnostics required to realize that you put the data on the faster drive if the game has loading screen issues.
I also have a 3TB hdd and most of my games run fine from there. Anthem is not one of them. There are no diagnostics needed because your computer is not broken. You're simply choosing the faster drive to put the game on.
As you have pointed out: that solution doesn't fix the problem for everyone and a lot of the complaints we hear are from console people so that's a whole 'nother thing.
It is guesswork, because instead of heading off your suggestions with "What's the hardware setup?" you make a suggestion predicated on the assumption of a particular hardware configuration.
Sure, there's no diagnostics needed to know a faster drive will load faster. However there is logic in knowing beforehand if suggesting sticking it on a faster drive is a remotely useful comment or only as useful as suggesting you don't squeeze a jelly donut too hard before eating it.
So not only is it guesswork, it's useless guesswork. This is why, if you ever bothered to look at the bug megathread, people actually tend to list their PC hardware configurations. It's exactly why the header of the thread requests people list this;
"**TECHNICAL INFORMATION:** Your platform, operating system, hardware, etc."
So useless comments like yours don't fill the threads up. Loading issues can also be related to corrupt or slow memory too, singling out a specific component of a system's hardware, with no knowledge or understanding of the build, to make a suggestion about juggling parts. Is entirely random and does not further any solution.
This is not even mentioning that your response is still aberrant because you made the suggestion in a response to me, and it does not account for the fact that the information that shows people with SSD's are experiencing these same load issues in the very response you'd quoted. This entire nonsense of yours could have and should have been curtailed by you simply clicking on the link in the post you responded to, and seeing all the information laid out in front of you by many people.
Knowing what the hardware is first is normal most anywhere. Random guesses will narrow you down over time, but it's highly inefficient to play 20 questions every time you troubleshoot something.
OK last reply here. This is not guesswork. Your solid state drive runs read data to your computer like a Ferrari. Your hard disk drive runs the same data like a Volkswagen Bus by comparison. There are no diagnostics required to realize that you put the data on the faster drive if the game has loading screen issues.
I also have a 3TB hdd and most of my games run fine from there. Anthem is not one of them. There are no diagnostics needed because your computer is not broken. You're simply choosing the faster drive to put the game on.
As you have pointed out: that solution doesn't fix the problem for everyone and a lot of the complaints we hear are from console people so that's a whole 'nother thing.
It is guesswork, because instead of heading off your suggestions with "What's the hardware setup?" you make a suggestion predicated on the assumption of a particular hardware configuration.
Sure, there's no diagnostics needed to know a faster drive will load faster. However there is logic in knowing beforehand if suggesting sticking it on a faster drive is a remotely useful comment or only as useful as suggesting you don't squeeze a jelly donut too hard before eating it.
So not only is it guesswork, it's useless guesswork. This is why, if you ever bothered to look at the bug megathread, people actually tend to list their PC hardware configurations. So useless comments like yours don't fill the threads up.
Yeah OK just as I thought. You just argue for the sake of it. It's fuckin duh if a person doesn't have a solid state the suggestion is useless. However if you're running a PC without one in this day and age your system is slow so most people have them. If you don't have the game on your sdd move it. It's that simple.
I corrected you because you ignored a very simple fact. You quoted and directly replied to me, don't tell me I'm "looking for an argument" when you instigated it. That's just childish.Besides, this first response from you;
PC here and can't say I've seen any 5 second load screens. And seems that according to the bug megathreads , the endless load screens are also back.
I don't see any of those, never have and you should put the game on your ssd if you have one. I have no reason to lie about my load times and most the time I often don't even wait 10 seconds to get into a mission anymore. Would I like it if there were none? Of course but it is nothing like it was 2 weeks ago.
EDIT: OK playing through the story again this time solo. Just loaded into a contract and I timed it. It took 18 seconds. That will be the longest I will wait until this mission is done.
This highlights just how far out of touch you have been this whole time. You clearly didn't even review that link to see that a users hardware technical information is requested and generally listed already on their bug report, and shows that most are already on SSD.
Yet, you tell me and them to switch to hardware we're already using.
Do you still not see how your comment is utterly nonsensical? You telling a person that's drinking milk, they should drink some milk, is a useless comment. You telling people that are dominantly listing an SSD as their drive that they should get an SSD, is a useless comment.
Why did you choose to even respond in the first place when you never even read or understood the thing you were replying to?
On top of that, this also bears repeating the very point that was made prior regarding using anecdote to dismiss things;
"Problem here is that people are experiencing these issues. Arguing from your perspective that "Well Ihaven't." doesn't suddenly make it so these issues don't exist. This is the problem with anecdotal argument, and the reason for those megathreads. They culminate and show the spectrum of issues for many users.
Anthem is rated lower than Fallout 76. And with the con of "inexcusable level of bugs" after you literally spent all of THAT shitshow's review excusing a far greater level of bugs. Is that a joke?
Be consistent if you want to be taken seriously. Because right now, I can't and don't take this site seriously as a review platform.
Have you actually played fo76, or you just talking out of your ass? Cause despite the bugs, FO76 has easily 50 hours of single player content despite being online, it's fun as hell, basically 90% FO4 gameplay in an entirely new world with some survival mechanics.
Have you actually played fo76, or you just talking out of your ass? Cause despite the bugs, FO76 has easily 50 hours of single player content despite being online, it's fun as hell, basically 90% FO4 gameplay in an entirely new world with some survival mechanics.
Can I charge you full price for a pizza now and deliver the ingredients over the course of months, plus a monthly fee while you wait? Here's a pizza box to get you started.
Knowing what the hardware is first is normal most anywhere. Random guesses will narrow you down over time, but it's highly inefficient to play 20 questions every time you troubleshoot something.
OK last reply here. This is not guesswork. Your solid state drive runs read data to your computer like a Ferrari. Your hard disk drive runs the same data like a Volkswagen Bus by comparison. There are no diagnostics required to realize that you put the data on the faster drive if the game has loading screen issues.
I also have a 3TB hdd and most of my games run fine from there. Anthem is not one of them. There are no diagnostics needed because your computer is not broken. You're simply choosing the faster drive to put the game on.
As you have pointed out: that solution doesn't fix the problem for everyone and a lot of the complaints we hear are from console people so that's a whole 'nother thing.
It is guesswork, because instead of heading off your suggestions with "What's the hardware setup?" you make a suggestion predicated on the assumption of a particular hardware configuration.
Sure, there's no diagnostics needed to know a faster drive will load faster. However there is logic in knowing beforehand if suggesting sticking it on a faster drive is a remotely useful comment or only as useful as suggesting you don't squeeze a jelly donut too hard before eating it.
So not only is it guesswork, it's useless guesswork. This is why, if you ever bothered to look at the bug megathread, people actually tend to list their PC hardware configurations. So useless comments like yours don't fill the threads up.
Yeah OK just as I thought. You just argue for the sake of it. It's fuckin duh if a person doesn't have a solid state the suggestion is useless. However if you're running a PC without one in this day and age your system is slow so most people have them. If you don't have the game on your sdd move it. It's that simple.
With that I'm done with you - ignored
You're claiming to have built PCs for more than 25 years, still you aren't mature enough to fathom the simple things Limnic is trying to say to you. Feel free to ignore me too, I'm done with your childish behaviour.
The story was good i enjoyed it but it was drastically short ... I just cant help but to think this is it after all those years... but in all honesty it feels like a lot of the game was cut out only to be fed to us later as "DLC"
You know its a good game when they are still hiring people to try and fix the game... on positive note they are releasing more content on a flawed buggie game... oh wait.. my bad
I thought they put in the long loading time because they have invested in tobacco, alcohol and maby ball cleaners like on SNL.
Or maybe they think a 6 button game would give us carpal tunnel syndrome and we need some time off.
I tried the game on 2 differant top digital storm systems SSD's. The load times are slow, boringly slow, and sometimes it just hangs at like 85-95 percent and won't load.
Other times it's slow just to give you unable to load pilot data errior.
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And the problem with your suggestion is an assumption, that wasn't even grounded in what I'd personally said. When I note other people are having load issues, and you suggest I should swap my drives around without even knowing what drives I use, do you not see how your comment has a disconnect with reality as a result?
Troubleshooting should be done with a hardware diagnostic first, not a shoot-from-the-hip random suggestion.
Anyone with half a brain can figure out if they have the game on their SSD and it's still not functioning properly they can ignore my suggestion.
Knowing what the hardware is first is normal most anywhere. Random guesses will narrow you down over time, but it's highly inefficient to play 20 questions every time you troubleshoot something.
You might as well have said "did you try turning it off and on again?"
I also have a 3TB hdd and most of my games run fine from there. Anthem is not one of them. There are no diagnostics needed because your computer is not broken. You're simply choosing the faster drive to put the game on.
As you have pointed out: that solution doesn't fix the problem for everyone and a lot of the complaints we hear are from console people so that's a whole 'nother thing.
Sure, there's no diagnostics needed to know a faster drive will load faster. However there is logic in knowing beforehand if suggesting sticking it on a faster drive is a remotely useful comment or only as useful as suggesting you don't squeeze a jelly donut too hard before eating it.
So not only is it guesswork, it's useless guesswork. This is why, if you ever bothered to look at the bug megathread, people actually tend to list their PC hardware configurations. It's exactly why the header of the thread requests people list this;
"**TECHNICAL INFORMATION:** Your platform, operating system, hardware, etc."
So useless comments like yours don't fill the threads up. Loading issues can also be related to corrupt or slow memory too, singling out a specific component of a system's hardware, with no knowledge or understanding of the build, to make a suggestion about juggling parts. Is entirely random and does not further any solution.
This is not even mentioning that your response is still aberrant because you made the suggestion in a response to me, and it does not account for the fact that the information that shows people with SSD's are experiencing these same load issues in the very response you'd quoted. This entire nonsense of yours could have and should have been curtailed by you simply clicking on the link in the post you responded to, and seeing all the information laid out in front of you by many people.
With that I'm done with you - ignored
Yet, you tell me and them to switch to hardware we're already using.
Do you still not see how your comment is utterly nonsensical? You telling a person that's drinking milk, they should drink some milk, is a useless comment. You telling people that are dominantly listing an SSD as their drive that they should get an SSD, is a useless comment.
Why did you choose to even respond in the first place when you never even read or understood the thing you were replying to?
On top of that, this also bears repeating the very point that was made prior regarding using anecdote to dismiss things;
"Problem here is that people are experiencing these issues. Arguing from your perspective that "Well I haven't." doesn't suddenly make it so these issues don't exist. This is the problem with anecdotal argument, and the reason for those megathreads. They culminate and show the spectrum of issues for many users.
Just because you personally claim you have not experienced any such issue is not proof it's not an issue, especially for the users that are actively experiencing it."
Read more at https://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/479592/anthem-review-here-we-go-again-mmorpg-com/p12#TklhLrU9eUCiftSo.99
This business practice isn't going to last long.
You're claiming to have built PCs for more than 25 years, still you aren't mature enough to fathom the simple things Limnic is trying to say to you. Feel free to ignore me too, I'm done with your childish behaviour.
Or maybe they think a 6 button game would give us carpal tunnel syndrome and we need some time off.
I tried the game on 2 differant top digital storm systems SSD's. The load times are slow, boringly slow, and sometimes it just hangs at like 85-95 percent and won't load.
Other times it's slow just to give you unable to load pilot data errior.