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Were at a stand off. Everyone looses.
delete5230
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It boils down to this. No one is happy. A select few have their niche game for the time being (ESO,WoW,FF14,GW2) but all-in-all take that game away their back in the pool with the rest of us.
It all comes down to money. I started with wanting a monthly fee, then realized it's all bad.
Standoff:
-MAXIMUM PROFIT (company)
-Good wholesome game (player)
I took the Liberty to find this:
Wholesome- Somebody who is pure of heart, devoid of corruption or malice, modest, stable, virtuous, and all-around sweet and compassionate....... This is what we want in a game..... This will not come from Triple A.... Never !!
I want a monthly fee but their is "some golden rules attached".
- The game has to have a long run never ending cycle of entertainment to it. Obviously the player will get tired of it, but the potential has to be their.
- The company or developer needs to re-invest proceeds. It seems they are unwilling to do that other than fixing mandatory bugs. Instead they spit out expansions and sell their game to the player all over again.
Unfortunately both golden rules are not even a thought, but instead maximum profit.
WITH MAXIMUM PROFIT BEING THE COMPANIES GOAL. THIS LEAVES THE MMORPG PLAYER WITH ALL BAD OPTIONS.
A word for the optimist:
You opinion can't count. Go ahead and eat your spoiled tuna sandwich and not complain
It all comes down to money. I started with wanting a monthly fee, then realized it's all bad.
Standoff:
-MAXIMUM PROFIT (company)
-Good wholesome game (player)
I took the Liberty to find this:
Wholesome- Somebody who is pure of heart, devoid of corruption or malice, modest, stable, virtuous, and all-around sweet and compassionate....... This is what we want in a game..... This will not come from Triple A.... Never !!
I want a monthly fee but their is "some golden rules attached".
- The game has to have a long run never ending cycle of entertainment to it. Obviously the player will get tired of it, but the potential has to be their.
- The company or developer needs to re-invest proceeds. It seems they are unwilling to do that other than fixing mandatory bugs. Instead they spit out expansions and sell their game to the player all over again.
Unfortunately both golden rules are not even a thought, but instead maximum profit.
WITH MAXIMUM PROFIT BEING THE COMPANIES GOAL. THIS LEAVES THE MMORPG PLAYER WITH ALL BAD OPTIONS.
A word for the optimist:
You opinion can't count. Go ahead and eat your spoiled tuna sandwich and not complain
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But that opens the door for maximum game play.
Sooner or later, someone will take advantage of that opening.
Once upon a time....
It could go full circle.
ESO, WoW, FFXIV and GW2 are not niche.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
The problem with the entire market and even within the games i enjoy is we always have to be worried about the next day and what changes might arrive because devs are just greedy as hell.We might be sailing along,having fun,then all of a sudden game breaking changes,not the same game anymore or we see developers doing some really retarded things instead of fixing the current state of games.
Creativity has pretty much been tossed out the window,al devs want to give us is the exact same game as last month with a different skin>>>NO THANKS,this isn't an art sale,this is gaming.
Many years ago i had hopes,i thought just maybe there are going to be studios that have a pssion to deliver something special,well 35 years later,i finally realized,this is just a business to MOST fo them,they care little about achievements in game design but care a lot about money and how fast hey can start making it.
Some might think...well they woudl want to make AAA games to outsell the other guy,nope doesn't work that way,you onl;y deliver what others are doing then try to bend the market in your favor with less effort means like marketing and paying streamers/websites to endorse yorurgames.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Developers wouldn't have this FAKE shroud to hide behind,nobody would be lying or deceiving on their behalf,the truth would come out,then developers would have to step up,nobody to cover their ass.Right now it is ONE BIG game of deceit and everyone is in on it to make a buck.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
There are so many games to choose from now, so many different MMOs. The industry has some lame elements to it, but there are always alternatives.
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Your post here are your thoughts and how you feel.
This is how most EVERYONE HERE FEELS. Difference being it's me.
If I were to pull a one-eighty and say the opposite, infact anything, it would be met with the same opposition.
Grammar aside, I wouldn't take back a word..... Why?..... Because it's true.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
People don't like being told what to do and how to think, thats a given, nothing new about that.
"Even if correct" people don't like to be told about it.
People are thinking it, I'm saying it.
It's like this:
If something is on the floor and NEEDS to be picked up. People despise being told to pick it up. Even if they planned on picking it up eventually because it NEEDS to.
People here hate the crap we have now with the exception of their niche one game. The only difference being I'm saying it..... but the fact still stands, they hate the crap.
Lets explore this:
People think it... I say it... mmorpg's suck !
It's like this:
Your in a van pool with five other guys. One takes a dump in their pants, it smells awful.
No one says a word. Well, I'm the one that will say " John, did you do that ?"
So you have to ask yourself are we happy with MMOs right now or have we learnt to be happy with them? Certainly I am not content with many of the changes we have seen to even those MMOs like ESO and Lotro which I still think are worth playing. I can see how we have been taught to play a different way, the way gaming companies want us to play rather than the way we want to play.
From cash shops to loot boxes and other casino elements in MMOs, from solo rules over grouping which in turn fostered an easy mode culture. Slowly but surely we were pulled along. Now some of these elements players who had not been MMO players wanted, like the predominance of solo play. But we did not, you could hear players talking about the need for soloing to be easier, but not for MMOs to be made into a solo to top level game.
The market is now theirs because they have the numbers, but indie may be where those of us who want a rebalancing find our answer. But as I said a rebalancing, I am not sure classic EQ would be for be for example (presuming here they went the whole hog) as think modern MMOs have a lot to offer.
Keep your chin up and you never know, you may get the MMO you have been looking for in a year or two.
If all corporate money pulled out of the gaming industry you would be left with all small niche games. Maybe that would be better, maybe not, but the days of big budget games would be over.
Instead of me wanting the industry to change to my ideals, I have simply moved on to the SP games that I enjoy playing which means I have moved to basically playing on my console. I still play some MP games with my youngest daughter, but those are on a rotational basis and only for a couple months at a time. Don't get burned out on them that way.
I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.