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When the v8.2 Rise of Azshara update rolls into World of Warcraft tomorrow (Wednesday in the EU), players will be able to complete Pathfinder Part 2 which will not only unlock flying in Kul Tiras and Zandalar, but also in the new Nazjatar and Mechagon zones as well. Doing so will see players earn the new Wonderwing 2.0 mount as a reward as well.
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What, me worry?
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Because there won't be any economy. Because a lot of the challenge at the beginning will be gone if you can just land on top of whatever you need and fly away afterwards. Because it's a game... there needs to be something to work towards.
I never get this type of complains. This is no different than asking why you don't just get the best gear in the game, so that you can actually enjoy the game... WoW doesn't have that option, but there are a lot of other games you can get whatever you want, as long as you are willing to pay the right price.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/LOL I am just hoping some exec from Blizz reads this thread and makes it happen... I would sub again at least. Just way too busy to handle things like rep grinds nowadays, but logging in to play a new character and gain a few levels would be no problem.
Gut Out!
What, me worry?
Glad I didn't stick around past 2 weeks. I still wouldn't be able to fly anyways.
Taking a selling feature from a previous expansion and locking it behind a time gated achievement grind is scummy.
Pathfinder is essentially like telling everyone who bought the burning crusade that their investment and support was for nothing. Start over plebs.
Everything you already earned or paid for is being reset every expansion because the current team only knows how to make self contained raiding content.
And Flying is irrelevant in Classic.
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I know that what you say think it's cool, but it genuinely sounds awful. That's literally worst than having to run around on the ground, so I don't see the point in that, just so that you can fly...
Do I think that there should be something to unlock ground mounts every game? No because you literally can't compare what ground mounts and flying mounts bring to the game.
If you think those kids that would constantly gank players were cancer wait till you actually give them wings lol.
Also the only reason there is actually an achievement for flying is because since flying being available at the beginning is a bad idea and it will be a while before it's available that achievement is something that literally everyone will get passively as long as they play 2-3 hours per week.
Btw to clarify I'm not thrilled to run on the ground, but the game isn't designed to have flying mounts and not ruin quite a bit of the experience.
All mounts still work, the only difference is the flying ones just can't fly.
I can understand completely why a system like this is in place. When you have a way to bypass a lot of obstacles then it trivializes said obstacles. I know myself if I was a developer and I placed down a gauntlet of hostiles for a prize or something of the like and someone just hopped on their flying mount on day 1 and bypassed everything I would be angry thus making me think what would be the point of me taking the time to design this. Situations like this may seem like a "so what" point to them but they also only care to see it from their point of view.
Another reason is PvP. Flying provides a pause button. There shouldn't be a pause button in MMO's. Also it really devalues PvP when someone can swoop in, kill someone, then fly right out without any repercussions. Later in the expansions this isn't so much a deal because of lighter traffic in areas but when it is initially released there is a lot of traffic that can lead to some epic scale fights and, like it or not, PvP is a part of the game that needs to be accounted for.
The thing is there are mutliple reasons why they probably did this. Most people however only care about what they want and don't see the bigger picture where as a company needs to look at situations from more than the view of a customer.
Logically, yes it does not make sense to have a bird hover instead of fly but sometimes, and as much as I hate to admit it, in an MMO gameplay takes more precedence over logic.
People that like to fly everywhere will stop playing and buying the expansions. I guess they figure if you can fly right at start then people will quit faster?
Dunno..i am one that stopped playing and buying the expansions years ago when they made this change, with no flying in new expac's till you were really done with everything, but the grind. Just took away any desire for me to keep going.
No use raising hell about it...just play something else that is fun to you.
Because when people once loved a game and it was ruined by idiot developers we get a little bitter and want to throw shit at them at every opportunity. Maybe you should just ignore us the way you are preaching for us to ignore the articles? Funny how that works.
Someone who does care for the content and stories will use flying to double up on both, not ignore it. These are the folks who pathfinder has harmed the most because you are not only costing them time and money, but also the agency to play the game how they like. Perhaps they just want to fly around and smell the roses and go talk to an NPC they hadnt seen before. Now they have to grind dailies for months and do raids and all kinda of crap they may not actually enjoy just to have the same agency within the game that they’ve had for over a decade. Just to get an extra month or two of subs? Just to force people into content that dont even care about it to begin with? Just a stupid stupid idea imo.
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