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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Gdemami said:
    MightyUnclean said:
    You're never going to be able to carry on a serious conversation with him.
    ...that's correct.

    I cannot have a conversation with someone who is incapable of slightest rational thinking.

    So I'm guessing you never talk to yourself.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    Nilden said:
    Oh so none of us were right and Caspian didn't shut the entire thing down taking 8 million dollars and leaving his backers with nothing?
    ...you are about as much right as flat-earthers are, you know, they also predict the Sun will come up tommorrow.

    Moot discussion with people of such reasoning (dis)ability.
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Gdemami said:
    Nilden said:
    Oh so none of us were right and Caspian didn't shut the entire thing down taking 8 million dollars and leaving his backers with nothing?
    ...you are about as much right as flat-earthers are, you know, they also predict the Sun will come up tommorrow.

    Moot discussion with people of such reasoning (dis)ability.

    Says the person who if you were Conan the Barbarian and asked what is best in life, would reply, "To click the LOL button, see it glitter before you, and hear the lamentation of the forums!".
    Slapshot1188KyleranAnOldFart

    "You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon

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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,056
    edited April 2020
    Gdemami said:
    Nilden said:
    You're just salty because they were right about everything and this dumpster fire shutting down just proves you don't know anything about game design.
    ...actually, it only proves (further and again) utter lack of critical thinking and trolling of yours and others alike.

    You just shit talk.
    He isn’t wrong though.

    Besides, every time somebody displayed critical thinking concerning CoE you were quickly there to shut them up. Not with a counter example of critical thinking but a simple ‘you are wrong and are too dumb to understand.’ 

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    KyleranScotDakeruNildenMendel
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • Morgenes83Morgenes83 Member UncommonPosts: 287
    In many instances sites just seem to take the PR file emailed by a company and paste it into a “news” article.


    no shit.


    like in my recent research about this fiasco i came across articles by this site such as this one:


    you don't have to have a phd in game design to realise that the footage shown was utter garbage considering the game has been in development for 5 years.

    yet mmorpg.com made no mention of this.

    ironically, the article's author bio reads:

    A highly opinionated avid PC gamer, Poorna blindly panics with his friends in various multiplayer games, much to the detriment of his team. Constantly questioning industry practices and a passion for technological progress drive his love for the video game industry. He pulls no punches and tells it like he sees it.


    well he clearly did not question what the fuck have these scammers been doing for 5 years has he?


    Is Porn-a even a real human being?
    I have the impression he/it is an offshore agency you can hire to search the web/inbox for articles and repost them.

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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited April 2020
    lahnmir said:
    Not with a counter example of critical thinking but a simple ‘you are wrong and are too dumb to understand.’ 
    How so?

    When you lack required expertize, knowledge and data, you don't draw conclusions or pass judgements - you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

    That is perfectly valid objection based on critical thinking.
    Post edited by Gdemami on
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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    Gdemami said:
    lahnmir said:
    Not with a counter example of critical thinking but a simple ‘you are wrong and are too dumb to understand.’ 
    How so?

    When you lack required expertize, knowledge and data, you don't draw conclusions or pass judgements - you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

    That is perfectly valid objection based on critical thinking.
    I fully agree.
    Because that is exactly what Caspian did.
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  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,056
    Gdemami said:
    lahnmir said:
    Not with a counter example of critical thinking but a simple ‘you are wrong and are too dumb to understand.’ 
    How so?

    When you lack required expertize, knowledge and data, you don't draw conclusions or pass judgements - you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

    That is perfectly valid objection based on critical thinking.
    Then why do you keep doing it? You’re just a different side of the same coin. You continuously draw conclusions and pass judgement. Every time you point at someone you simply point at yourself, you just lack the self reflection to realise it.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    GdemamiKyleran
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    lahnmir said:
    Then why do you keep doing it?
    ...easily, I am not doing it.


    Kyleran
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,662
    Gdemami said:
    lahnmir said:
    Not with a counter example of critical thinking but a simple ‘you are wrong and are too dumb to understand.’ 
    How so?

    When you lack required expertize, knowledge and data, you don't draw conclusions or pass judgements - you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

    That is perfectly valid objection based on critical thinking.
    There were two hypotheses proposed.  
    One was that Walsh could not come close to delivering what he promised based off his timeline, budget, and experience. Those are actual data points.
    The second was that “armchair developers”  could not possibly predict what was going to happen.

    Well.  Based on perfectly valid critical thinking, the first hypothesis has proven correct and you still are searching for a way to support the second in the face of data showing it to be false.  You may not understand why you were wrong.  Honestly, I don’t care if you ever understand why you were wrong.  It’s enough for me to know that you were.

    Regardless of what subjective reasons you may throw out for it not being possible.  I (and others) have now called Greedmonger, Pathfinder Online, and Elyria correctly. Those are multiple data points. 

    So regardless of whether you understand WHY you were wrong.  When people are right 3 times in a row, the smart person will listen and consider what they say when the fourth time comes. 



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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited April 2020
    Slapshot1188 said:
    Based on perfectly valid critical thinking, the first hypothesis has proven correct
    ...yep, just like Earth being flat.
    Kyleran
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    Slapshot1188 said:
    When people are right 3 times in a row, the smart person will listen and consider what they say when the fourth time comes. 
    ...erm no.

    Smart person realize that if you throw shit on the wall for long enough, something is gonna stick.
  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Gdemami said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    Based on perfectly valid critical thinking, the first hypothesis has proven correct
    ...yep, just like Earth being flat.

    ...and Caspian designing a video game.

    "You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon

    "classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon

    Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer

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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,662
    Gdemami said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    When people are right 3 times in a row, the smart person will listen and consider what they say when the fourth time comes. 
    ...erm no.

    Smart person realize that if you throw shit on the wall for long enough, something is gonna stick.
    Smart person thinks that the first time.  Maybe the second time.  
    Smart person realizes that by 3rd time maybe they're the one full of shit.

    Gdemami

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,662
    Gdemami said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    Based on perfectly valid critical thinking, the first hypothesis has proven correct
    ...yep, just like Earth being flat.
    This makes as much sense as NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU WITH MY FINGERS IN MY EARS.

    Seriously dude.  Give it up.

    Kyleran

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    Smart person thinks 
    ...don't try to assume what smart people think when you believe that throwing shit on the wall "proves your hypothesis".
    Kyleran
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,662
    Gdemami said:
    Smart person thinks 
    ...don't try to assume what smart people think when you believe that throwing shit on the wall "proves your hypothesis".
    The assumption about throwing shit on a wall was yours.  You are the only person who got everything wrong.  Multiple times.

    Since you are so data-oriented that should tell you something.
    GdemamiKyleran

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    Slapshot1188 said:
    The assumption about throwing shit on a wall was yours. 
    ....that wasn't an assumption.
    Slapshot1188Kyleran
  • lahnmirlahnmir Member LegendaryPosts: 5,056
    Gdemami said:
    lahnmir said:
    Then why do you keep doing it?
    ...easily, I am not doing it.


    I love it when you prove me right. Its too easy.

    Gdemami said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    The assumption about throwing shit on a wall was yours. 
    ....that wasn't an assumption.
    And hold on there cowboy. I know we make fun of your silly little posts but we have never, ever thrown you against a wall.

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    Slapshot1188GdemamiKyleran
    'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'

    Kyleran on yours sincerely 


    'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'

    Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...



    'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless. 

    It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.

    It is just huge resource waste....'

    Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    But vblogs and blogs kept coming....

    @refail
    Kyleran
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited April 2020
    lahnmir said:
    I love it when you prove me right. Its too easy.
    ...the onus of proof is on you.
    Post edited by Gdemami on
    Kyleran
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    NPD. Look it up guys and stop feeding the troll the attention he craves.
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  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Why do I always feel the urge to re-watch the Monty Python Argument sketch whenever anyone has an extended exchange with Gdemami?  I'll leave it to you to do the search for yourselves.  It'll give you something to do while away a few virus-inspired seconds.



    Slapshot1188Iselin[Deleted User]

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • DeveronDeveron Member UncommonPosts: 60
    Mendel said:
    Why do I always feel the urge to re-watch the Monty Python Argument sketch whenever anyone has an extended exchange with Gdemami?  I'll leave it to you to do the search for yourselves.  It'll give you something to do while away a few virus-inspired seconds.



    No, it won’t. 
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  • Morgenes83Morgenes83 Member UncommonPosts: 287
    Gdemami said:
    Slapshot1188 said:
    When people are right 3 times in a row, the smart person will listen and consider what they say when the fourth time comes. 
    ...erm no.

    Smart person realize that if you throw shit on the wall for long enough, something is gonna stick.
    Smart person just leave the room quietly when some starts throwing shit around

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