Fallout 4 still scratches any fallout itch I have. Maybe I just don't itch in the right places?
Same here, I've played that game to death in every possible sauce (Mods), and keep going back every couple of months.
76 doesn't add anything to it.
It's basically FO4 multiplayer mode.
I am not keen in playing in small servers...but if it was a MMORPG, that would be another story.
I’d be curious what you think being a traditional MMORPG would bring to the table which the current design doesn’t.
More people to play with.
There are already thousands upon thousands to play with.
Yeah? Server still capped at 32?
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Fallout 4 still scratches any fallout itch I have. Maybe I just don't itch in the right places?
Same here, I've played that game to death in every possible sauce (Mods), and keep going back every couple of months.
76 doesn't add anything to it.
It's basically FO4 multiplayer mode.
I am not keen in playing in small servers...but if it was a MMORPG, that would be another story.
I’d be curious what you think being a traditional MMORPG would bring to the table which the current design doesn’t.
More people to play with.
There are already thousands upon thousands to play with.
In the same server?
Back to my question, what exactly would you do with thousands on the same server.
FO world has never been about massive battles or anything, but rather the lone vault dweller wandering a wasteland with only a smattering or survivors anywhere.
Expecting the Battle for Helms deep doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Personally for me it has been worth playing since launch day. The ridiculous bashing of how bad it is, was unfortunately over blown. What bugs me is people at work and even my own teenage boys refuse to play it based purely on internet feedback. They go on about how horrible the game is and when i ask did you play it it's been 100% no, then how do you know it's that bad?
Exactly. Got old 300+ lv character and got back to the game now and levelling fresh one for Wastelanders. Game is much improved now and honestly Better than Fallout 4 by a lot.
Personally for me it has been worth playing since launch day. The ridiculous bashing of how bad it is, was unfortunately over blown. What bugs me is people at work and even my own teenage boys refuse to play it based purely on internet feedback. They go on about how horrible the game is and when i ask did you play it it's been 100% no, then how do you know it's that bad?
How is it overblown? The makers made promises then broke them. They even punished people for pointing out bugs and exploits in the game. Now they're even stealing from players.
They always did even in Fallout 3 and 4. You just either where lucky or just loaded save alike 99% of people.
That said They dont STEAL Favourite weapons. But anything else in trash bag is up for grabs
...it is a great game because they have fun with friends.
Solo was impossible at launch, and now with the sub i can confirm it's just as fun with or without friends.
The key to video games is to have fun, and multiplayer games key is fun with friends so you're kinda saying Fallout 76 scored a huge win there.
I played on launch with 300+ lv character now since day 1. Solo was very much possible back then. Honestly i dont see much difference in difficulty, if anything its actually harder in endgame now.
Don't support this garbage. 76 has been broken since launch and they have the audacity to load it with micro-transactions and a SUBSCRIPTION option. Like, give me a break, seriously. This game is a cash grab in the truest sense of the word. This is not a "well, they have to make money somehow" situation. This is a "we need to throw some multiplayer live service type game out there like Destiny or somehing so we can milk the hell out of our players, regardless of the quality" situation. They also broke their promise of "no gameplay altering mechanics" in the store....by a lot.
Also, saying a game is more fun with friends means the game is just not good. It is really difficult to find a game that is NOT more fun with friends. I mean, tossing feces around a locker room is more fun with friends. It should just be implied that a game is more fun with friends. If you have to point that out there aren't many other positive things to point out about it.
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By condoning any game that launches so badly we are telling gaming studios it is Ok to do that again. Since launch the game has shown it is built on an unstable foundation which continues to the present day. If we are saying you can have fun in a buggy mess we will get more buggy messes released. So I am saying don't go anywhere near it, spend your money on finished, polished games.
Fair, enough, which MMO or multiplayer online games recently launched do you consider to be finished and polished? Curious to know what bar we’re comparing FO76 to.
I have quite a high bar, I said the same things about No Man's Sky, but noted the caveat that they had a sounder foundation, subsequently they have added loads of content. NMS became a solid game but on release it was not a game anyone should have bought. I am putting FO76 in the same category as the likes of SotA, games I don't think will ever be properly fixed.
We all draw the line somewhere but FO76 crosses way over that line for me, it has damaged its studios reputation and put the FO brand in question. You are only as good as your last success and this was dire. I think Bethesda will turn things round with new releases though.
I haven’t played NMS but have been playing F76 for awhile. There is just an amazing amount of exploration possible in F76. Originally I stopped playing because it just grew tedious to have everyone dead. Every quest ended in a tragically dead body being discovered. With the new NPCs that has changed. We have been taking our time and haven’t even gotten to the faction leaders yet. Have 1 ally (Beckett) but haven’t explored his quest lines yet.
Its not perfect but so far so good.
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Personally for me it has been worth playing since launch day. The ridiculous bashing of how bad it is, was unfortunately over blown. What bugs me is people at work and even my own teenage boys refuse to play it based purely on internet feedback. They go on about how horrible the game is and when i ask did you play it it's been 100% no, then how do you know it's that bad?
its all true though...every criticism is 100 % true..it was an awful game..and is now only slightly less awful.the game was a broken mess for almost a year.more bugs then any other AAA game out there.Bethesda isnt known for QA on there games..this isnt an overblown criticism.im glad for any sale that is lost to Bethesda because of customer warnings.
By condoning any game that launches so badly we are telling gaming studios it is Ok to do that again. Since launch the game has shown it is built on an unstable foundation which continues to the present day. If we are saying you can have fun in a buggy mess we will get more buggy messes released. So I am saying don't go anywhere near it, spend your money on finished, polished games.
Fair, enough, which MMO or multiplayer online games recently launched do you consider to be finished and polished? Curious to know what bar we’re comparing FO76 to.
I have quite a high bar, I said the same things about No Man's Sky, but noted the caveat that they had a sounder foundation, subsequently they have added loads of content. NMS became a solid game but on release it was not a game anyone should have bought. I am putting FO76 in the same category as the likes of SotA, games I don't think will ever be properly fixed.
We all draw the line somewhere but FO76 crosses way over that line for me, it has damaged its studios reputation and put the FO brand in question. You are only as good as your last success and this was dire. I think Bethesda will turn things round with new releases though.
So again I ask, what recently launched MMO or online Multiplayer games have met your high bar of quality?
We all can point to numerous failures, they are legion.
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I was going to buy it now with Wastelander's release but decided not to due to Fallout 1st, the subscription service for what is essentially a single player game. Needing to pay to have proper storage can fuck right off along with Bethesda. They've turned me off to all of their future titles with such shenanigans.
I was going to buy it now with Wastelander's release but decided not to due to Fallout 1st, the subscription service for what is essentially a single player game. Needing to pay to have proper storage can fuck right off along with Bethesda. They've turned me off to all of their future titles with such shenanigans.
Except...its not a single player game...are you sure you know what FO76 is about?
Sub service is totally optional you know, "proper" storage is provided, which you'll have to manage.....properly.
If you are a horder like me either pony up for the sub, purchase a 2nd account for convenient storage mules (I have one along with a sub, as I really hoard) or ask a friend to help you transfer stuff to a mule on the same account.
Oh, I see, nevermind, you were just confirming your reasons to hate Bethesda, check.
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I was going to buy it now with Wastelander's release but decided not to due to Fallout 1st, the subscription service for what is essentially a single player game. Needing to pay to have proper storage can fuck right off along with Bethesda. They've turned me off to all of their future titles with such shenanigans.
Except...its not a single player game...are you sure you know what FO76 is about?
Sub service is totally optional you know, "proper" storage is provided, which you'll have to manage.....properly.
If you are a horder like me either pony up for the sub, purchase a 2nd account for convenient storage mules (I have one along with a sub, as I really hoard) or ask a friend to help you transfer stuff to a mule on the same account.
Oh, I see, nevermind, you were just confirming your reasons to hate Bethesda, check.
While your dogged defense of Bethesda is...admirable... in this thread, I don't (didn't) have any ill will toward Bethesda until now. I do not support pay for storage games or pay to fix games, ever. Yes it's an online game and it's a RPG but not an MMORPG which is the only thing that could possibly warrant a subscription fee. It's not like this is a "season pass" for $20-$40 that covers a whole year of content releases; it's a sub. $13 a month for a coop optional "essentially single player game". Yea. No.
All of that aside, let's not forget what a pile of dogshit this game was on release. That people might even consider putting eyeballs on it now is extremely gracious of them. From my understanding this is nowhere near the turnaround that games like No Man's Sky and FFXIV have made so it's still dogshit just has some perfume spritzed on it now.
I was going to buy it now with Wastelander's release but decided not to due to Fallout 1st, the subscription service for what is essentially a single player game. Needing to pay to have proper storage can fuck right off along with Bethesda. They've turned me off to all of their future titles with such shenanigans.
Except...its not a single player game...are you sure you know what FO76 is about?
Sub service is totally optional you know, "proper" storage is provided, which you'll have to manage.....properly.
If you are a horder like me either pony up for the sub, purchase a 2nd account for convenient storage mules (I have one along with a sub, as I really hoard) or ask a friend to help you transfer stuff to a mule on the same account.
Oh, I see, nevermind, you were just confirming your reasons to hate Bethesda, check.
While your dogged defense of Bethesda is...admirable... in this thread, I don't (didn't) have any ill will toward Bethesda until now. I do not support pay for storage games or pay to fix games, ever. Yes it's an online game and it's a RPG but not an MMORPG which is the only thing that could possibly warrant a subscription fee. It's not like this is a "season pass" for $20-$40 that covers a whole year of content releases; it's a sub. $13 a month for a coop optional "essentially single player game". Yea. No.
All of that aside, let's not forget what a pile of dogshit this game was on release. That people might even consider putting eyeballs on it now is extremely gracious of them. From my understanding this is nowhere near the turnaround that games like No Man's Sky and FFXIV have made so it's still dogshit just has some perfume spritzed on it now.
Ahh, another person whose never played saying it's not a MMORPG. While true from a traditional sense, the game is hosted entirely on company run servers, so it could warrant a sub, which isn't required, single player games run solely on my PC.
The sub provides multiple benefits, if none are worthwhile to you, all good.
But it's your right to spend money as you wish, can't fault anyone for that.
Fortunately I'm rich and can afford $13 a month...but I get not everyone can afford to be a whale like me.
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By condoning any game that launches so badly we are telling gaming studios it is Ok to do that again. Since launch the game has shown it is built on an unstable foundation which continues to the present day. If we are saying you can have fun in a buggy mess we will get more buggy messes released. So I am saying don't go anywhere near it, spend your money on finished, polished games.
Fair, enough, which MMO or multiplayer online games recently launched do you consider to be finished and polished? Curious to know what bar we’re comparing FO76 to.
I have quite a high bar, I said the same things about No Man's Sky, but noted the caveat that they had a sounder foundation, subsequently they have added loads of content. NMS became a solid game but on release it was not a game anyone should have bought. I am putting FO76 in the same category as the likes of SotA, games I don't think will ever be properly fixed.
We all draw the line somewhere but FO76 crosses way over that line for me, it has damaged its studios reputation and put the FO brand in question. You are only as good as your last success and this was dire. I think Bethesda will turn things round with new releases though.
So again I ask, what recently launched MMO or online Multiplayer games have met your high bar of quality?
We all can point to numerous failures, they are legion.
Well real MMO's launching are one in a blue moon, if you are talking multiplayer games I would say Trine 4 or Division 2 (which had a recent update). These experiences are not what FO76 wanted to achieve but I can't give something a pass because it does not have strong recent genre competition. If we go back something like Conan Exiles or even NMS in fact might be more similar?
I was going to buy it now with Wastelander's release but decided not to due to Fallout 1st, the subscription service for what is essentially a single player game. Needing to pay to have proper storage can fuck right off along with Bethesda. They've turned me off to all of their future titles with such shenanigans.
Except...its not a single player game...are you sure you know what FO76 is about?
Sub service is totally optional you know, "proper" storage is provided, which you'll have to manage.....properly.
If you are a horder like me either pony up for the sub, purchase a 2nd account for convenient storage mules (I have one along with a sub, as I really hoard) or ask a friend to help you transfer stuff to a mule on the same account.
Oh, I see, nevermind, you were just confirming your reasons to hate Bethesda, check.
While your dogged defense of Bethesda is...admirable... in this thread, I don't (didn't) have any ill will toward Bethesda until now. I do not support pay for storage games or pay to fix games, ever. Yes it's an online game and it's a RPG but not an MMORPG which is the only thing that could possibly warrant a subscription fee. It's not like this is a "season pass" for $20-$40 that covers a whole year of content releases; it's a sub. $13 a month for a coop optional "essentially single player game". Yea. No.
All of that aside, let's not forget what a pile of dogshit this game was on release. That people might even consider putting eyeballs on it now is extremely gracious of them. From my understanding this is nowhere near the turnaround that games like No Man's Sky and FFXIV have made so it's still dogshit just has some perfume spritzed on it now.
Ahh, another person whose never played saying it's not a MMORPG. While true from a traditional sense, the game is hosted entirely on company run servers, so it could warrant a sub, which isn't required, single player games run solely on my PC.
The sub provides multiple benefits, if none are worthwhile to you, all good.
But it's your right to spend money as you wish, can't fault anyone for that.
Fortunately I'm rich and can afford $13 a month...but I get not everyone can afford to be a whale like me.
Your rationalizations about charging for extra storage doesn't work here any more than it does in ESO.
You see there is this other way to deal with inadequate storage in a game which is to just fix it. Selling relief from it is scummy - it's just cash shop driven bad design that is left in a poor state to drive revenues. That's just F2P app store garbage marketing... in a B2P game.
Trying to rationalize it away as being only an issue for "hoarders" is just "my game right or wrong, love it or leave it" fanboy 101 shit.
And "I am rich" is beyond lame and totally beside the point. I thought you were better than this at picking the hills you're willing to die on.
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I was going to buy it now with Wastelander's release but decided not to due to Fallout 1st, the subscription service for what is essentially a single player game. Needing to pay to have proper storage can fuck right off along with Bethesda. They've turned me off to all of their future titles with such shenanigans.
Except...its not a single player game...are you sure you know what FO76 is about?
Sub service is totally optional you know, "proper" storage is provided, which you'll have to manage.....properly.
If you are a horder like me either pony up for the sub, purchase a 2nd account for convenient storage mules (I have one along with a sub, as I really hoard) or ask a friend to help you transfer stuff to a mule on the same account.
Oh, I see, nevermind, you were just confirming your reasons to hate Bethesda, check.
While your dogged defense of Bethesda is...admirable... in this thread, I don't (didn't) have any ill will toward Bethesda until now. I do not support pay for storage games or pay to fix games, ever. Yes it's an online game and it's a RPG but not an MMORPG which is the only thing that could possibly warrant a subscription fee. It's not like this is a "season pass" for $20-$40 that covers a whole year of content releases; it's a sub. $13 a month for a coop optional "essentially single player game". Yea. No.
All of that aside, let's not forget what a pile of dogshit this game was on release. That people might even consider putting eyeballs on it now is extremely gracious of them. From my understanding this is nowhere near the turnaround that games like No Man's Sky and FFXIV have made so it's still dogshit just has some perfume spritzed on it now.
Ahh, another person whose never played saying it's not a MMORPG. While true from a traditional sense, the game is hosted entirely on company run servers, so it could warrant a sub, which isn't required, single player games run solely on my PC.
The sub provides multiple benefits, if none are worthwhile to you, all good.
But it's your right to spend money as you wish, can't fault anyone for that.
Fortunately I'm rich and can afford $13 a month...but I get not everyone can afford to be a whale like me.
Your rationalizations about charging for extra storage doesn't work here any more than it does in ESO.
You see there is this other way to deal with inadequate storage in a game which is to just fix it. Selling relief from it is scummy - it's just cash shop driven bad design that is left in a poor state to drive revenues. That's just F2P app store garbage marketing... in a B2P game.
Trying to rationalize it away as being only an issue for "hoarders" is just "my game right or wrong, love it or leave it" fanboy 101 shit.
And "I am rich" is beyond lame and totally beside the point. I thought you were better than this at picking the hills you're willing to die on.
I expect developers to find some way, some how to add continuous monetization to their products, GaaS is here to stay which I've learned to accept.
The genie is out of the bottle, there is no going back. Would I like more free storage, absolutely, but isn't going to happen, theres a reason when asked about the benefits of a sub 1st members often call it "the Trap."
Yet, I know many people who play FO76 without the sub, just like I knew many folks who only had one account in EVE, instead of six like me.
Also, I know folks who sub for a month, fill the stash box, then cancel for a few months. While you can't put anything else in without a sub, you can still take scrap out, so it's perfect for when a player is taking a break or only intermittently.
Keep in mind, the sub also covers developer provided private worlds, a sore spot for some for reasons I really can't relate to, a great tent for scrapping, storage, cooking and getting fine tuned while in the field, and..1650 Atoms a month, which keeps me looking good.
Yes, the are charging me $13.00 a month.
Thirteen dollars, $13, 1300 pennies, hmm, no matter how I write it, just a pittance, I set fire in an ashtray to more more money everyday, yet people constantly decry the unreasonableness of it, so I must be a whale, no?
Ever since I started playing MMOs, I have almost always had multiple subs, three in L1, five in DAOC, three in L2, three in WOW, two in LotRO, and finally six in EVE, which I paid for annually in cash....about $780 a year in total.
As for being better than all this, c'mon, I live under the bridge which you well know.
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FO world has never been about massive battles or anything, but rather the lone vault dweller wandering a wasteland with only a smattering or survivors anywhere.
Expecting the Battle for Helms deep doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Just happens to be hundreds of similar worlds which you can hop to endlessly, the design actually works quite well for a game like this.
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Exactly. Got old 300+ lv character and got back to the game now and levelling fresh one for Wastelanders. Game is much improved now and honestly Better than Fallout 4 by a lot.
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They always did even in Fallout 3 and 4. You just either where lucky or just loaded save alike 99% of people.
That said They dont STEAL Favourite weapons. But anything else in trash bag is up for grabs
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I played on launch with 300+ lv character now since day 1. Solo was very much possible back then. Honestly i dont see much difference in difficulty, if anything its actually harder in endgame now.
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We all draw the line somewhere but FO76 crosses way over that line for me, it has damaged its studios reputation and put the FO brand in question. You are only as good as your last success and this was dire. I think Bethesda will turn things round with new releases though.
Its not perfect but so far so good.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
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its all true though...every criticism is 100 % true..it was an awful game..and is now only slightly less awful.the game was a broken mess for almost a year.more bugs then any other AAA game out there.Bethesda isnt known for QA on there games..this isnt an overblown criticism.im glad for any sale that is lost to Bethesda because of customer warnings.
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Sub service is totally optional you know, "proper" storage is provided, which you'll have to manage.....properly.
If you are a horder like me either pony up for the sub, purchase a 2nd account for convenient storage mules (I have one along with a sub, as I really hoard) or ask a friend to help you transfer stuff to a mule on the same account.
Oh, I see, nevermind, you were just confirming your reasons to hate Bethesda, check.
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The sub provides multiple benefits, if none are worthwhile to you, all good.
But it's your right to spend money as you wish, can't fault anyone for that.
Fortunately I'm rich and can afford $13 a month...but I get not everyone can afford to be a whale like me.
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You see there is this other way to deal with inadequate storage in a game which is to just fix it. Selling relief from it is scummy - it's just cash shop driven bad design that is left in a poor state to drive revenues. That's just F2P app store garbage marketing... in a B2P game.
Trying to rationalize it away as being only an issue for "hoarders" is just "my game right or wrong, love it or leave it" fanboy 101 shit.
And "I am rich" is beyond lame and totally beside the point. I thought you were better than this at picking the hills you're willing to die on.
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BTW,
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The genie is out of the bottle, there is no going back. Would I like more free storage, absolutely, but isn't going to happen, theres a reason when asked about the benefits of a sub 1st members often call it "the Trap."
Yet, I know many people who play FO76 without the sub, just like I knew many folks who only had one account in EVE, instead of six like me.
Also, I know folks who sub for a month, fill the stash box, then cancel for a few months. While you can't put anything else in without a sub, you can still take scrap out, so it's perfect for when a player is taking a break or only intermittently.
Keep in mind, the sub also covers developer provided private worlds, a sore spot for some for reasons I really can't relate to, a great tent for scrapping, storage, cooking and getting fine tuned while in the field, and..1650 Atoms a month, which keeps me looking good.
Yes, the are charging me $13.00 a month.
Thirteen dollars, $13, 1300 pennies, hmm, no matter how I write it, just a pittance, I set fire in an ashtray to more more money everyday, yet people constantly decry the unreasonableness of it, so I must be a whale, no?
Ever since I started playing MMOs, I have almost always had multiple subs, three in L1, five in DAOC, three in L2, three in WOW, two in LotRO, and finally six in EVE, which I paid for annually in cash....about $780 a year in total.
As for being better than all this, c'mon, I live under the bridge which you well know.
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