Here's Why Squadron 42 News Was Delayed

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Here's Why Squadron 42 News Was Delayed

Cloud Imperium have provided an update as to why news of Squadron 42, the single-player module of Star Citizen, was delayed, citing a video which wasn't up to their usual standard.

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Strizzy12

It's been about 8 years in the making... and still, it feels like... it'll take about 8 more.

Aeander

Cloud Imperium should change their name to Vapor Imperium.

yonpachi

Maybe because it never meant to be finished.

Wizardry

It was delayed because that is what Robert's does,is miss timelines and cost expectations.Not only is this FACT he admitted it himself when this whole ordeal started.He stated that you can't build a good game without deep pockets,a good investor to back you up when missing deadlines and costs go up.He was referring to when Microsoft backed him up.
Robert's claimed he left EA because they wouldn't give him enough money.Well even with Microsoft behind him,his ventures failed,his movie failed his games also sort of failed,they definitely were not hits.

He is in reality a very sub par developer,yes i enjoyed his 1988 Lands of Lore but that was a low budget platform and not like Robert's was pushing any envelopes and that was 32 years ago lol.

Eldrach

I really get what they’re trying to achieve, but they’d be better off building a working platform like elite dangerous did - after that feature creep wouldn’t matter as much

jmlane223

Eldrach said:

I really get what they’re trying to achieve, but they’d be better off building a working platform like elite dangerous did - after that feature creep wouldn’t matter as much

Agreed, but now they've run into the issue of over promising and having nothing to back up a lot of the expectations that comes with them. If they "released" anytime soon and under delivered then those foolish enough to continue to pay for "to be implemented" stuff would stop paying. They are still making a lot of money on promises and tech demo modules, why release and dry up the money from idiots who support that? Once it releases, is not half the game people were expecting and gets review bombed thats all she wrote. By that time Robert's will be more than set for life though and won't care.

mastergravy

if people want them to finish then quit playing and spending money of the game. when they start to bleed out only then will they take the gamers serious.

foxgirl

This guy happened on the perfect scheme of making a game of promises and then selling it to gullible people.

Jamar870

Check out the article on Ars Technica on our favorite vaporware. 

BeansnBread

What is this mess?

1. Give an explanation of the goals of our new Roadmap and what to expect from it
2. Show a rough mockup of the proposed new Roadmap
3. Share a work in progress version of the Roadmap for at least one of our core teams
4. And then finally transition to this new Roadmap

Is that a roadmap for the roadmap?

Tiller

foxgirl said:

This guy happened on the perfect scheme of making a game of promises and then selling it to gullible people.

Yeah but the gullible people think it's all part of a master plan somehow. One thing that will always remain true is there is always going to be charlatans to take advantage of peoples passion over something and gain a large following in the process. People you think are reasonable become absolute imbeciles about things they want to believe in, even if the opposite of their truth is staring them in the face.

Phoenix_Hawk

From the start it all seemed like a lot of hand waving, and promises with nothing to back it up, but for some reason, hordes of people were ready to jump onto the hype train, and empty their wallets.

Arglebargle

Wizardry said:

It was delayed because that is what Robert's does,is miss timelines and cost expectations.Not only is this FACT he admitted it himself when this whole ordeal started.He stated that you can't build a good game without deep pockets,a good investor to back you up when missing deadlines and costs go up.He was referring to when Microsoft backed him up.
Robert's claimed he left EA because they wouldn't give him enough money.Well even with Microsoft behind him,his ventures failed,his movie failed his games also sort of failed,they definitely were not hits.

He is in reality a very sub par developer,yes i enjoyed his 1988 Lands of Lore but that was a low budget platform and not like Robert's was pushing any envelopes and that was 32 years ago lol.

Roberts pushed some innovation, but it was at the elevator pitch level:  'Let's go for 3d games!', 'Let's put meaningful cinematics in games!'.  But when it comes down to the nuts and bolts of management and design, he's an anchor holding back his teams.

Plus he literally stole ideas (Kzinti), and presented mostly m.o.r. ,  comfort food characters and events.

Arglebargle

Tiller said:

foxgirl said:

This guy happened on the perfect scheme of making a game of promises and then selling it to gullible people.

Yeah but the gullible people think it's all part of a master plan somehow. One thing that will always remain true is there is always going to be charlatans to take advantage of peoples passion over something and gain a large following in the process. People you think are reasonable become absolute imbeciles about things they want to believe in, even if the opposite of their truth is staring them in the face.

Roberts probably half believes those ruses himself.  Feynman says the first principle is not to fool yourself, because you're the easiest person to fool.  A friend who worked at Origin said of Roberts, "He believes everything he says, regardless of its relationship to reality."

FrodoFragins

BeansnBread said:

What is this mess?

1. Give an explanation of the goals of our new Roadmap and what to expect from it
2. Show a rough mockup of the proposed new Roadmap
3. Share a work in progress version of the Roadmap for at least one of our core teams
4. And then finally transition to this new Roadmap

Is that a roadmap for the roadmap?

Yes it is. LOL.

I see the three white knights are nowhere to be seen as even they can't defend this shit.

jmlane223

FrodoFragins said:

BeansnBread said:

What is this mess?

1. Give an explanation of the goals of our new Roadmap and what to expect from it
2. Show a rough mockup of the proposed new Roadmap
3. Share a work in progress version of the Roadmap for at least one of our core teams
4. And then finally transition to this new Roadmap

Is that a roadmap for the roadmap?

Yes it is. LOL.



I see the three white knights are nowhere to be seen as even they can't defend this shit.

Agreed, I'm a little sad I have not seen them yet. It adds to the entertainment value that is StarShitizen

TiamatRoar

Aren't those three usually there to defend CIG within the hour?  What, was there nothing in the article to trigger their alarms or something?

At any rate, it's one thing to point out how impossible (for attackers) or how expanded (for defenders) Star Citizen's scope is, but when CiG can't even get the offline single-player game finished when a single player offline game is like, a truckton less complex than what Star Citizen is supposed to be, that's a whole new level of pathetic and alarm.

FrodoFragins

TiamatRoar said:

Aren't those three usually there to defend CIG within the hour?  What, was there nothing in the article to trigger their alarms or something?

At any rate, it's one thing to point out how impossible (for attackers) or how expanded (for defenders) Star Citizen's scope is, but when CiG can't even get the offline single-player game finished when a single player offline game is like, a truckton less complex than what Star Citizen is supposed to be, that's a whole new level of pathetic and alarm.

But it's 100x worse than that.  they can't even make the time to tell their backers what the true status of SQ42 is.  They don't need fancy videos.  They need a real status update and preferably a realistic ETA for beta testing.  Just tell them what the roadblocks currently are.

Getting SQ42 released will help their PR immensely.  I'm sure they are aware and are either too incompetent to get it out or just don't care enough.

strawhat0981

300 MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!

Amathe

I don't know how, but somehow the spenders will see this as a positive and donate even more. It's like Apocalypse Now. The more crazy shit Colonel Kurtz does, the more his followers adore him.

MightyUnclean

Amathe said:

I don't know how, but somehow the spenders will see this as a positive and donate even more. It's like Apocalypse Now. The more crazy shit Colonel Kurtz does, the more his followers adore him.

OMG, they care so much, they delayed things just to create an even more awesome video for us!  <spend spend>

Untamedgunner

We realize with the budget of Rockstar and more time then RED DEAD 2 and GTA 5 we simply can’t put our this product like this. When we announced this game Nividia 1050 was recommended now it’s a joke RTX 2080 Super i27 32 quad core processor rayzene25000 turbo nitro. Should run this on low settings 25 FPS zero shadows no bloom

Kyleran

CIG never met a deadline they couldn't miss.

Iselin

Another day, another convoluted excuse.

Untamedgunner

BeansnBread said:

What is this mess?

1. Give an explanation of the goals of our new Roadmap and what to expect from it
2. Show a rough mockup of the proposed new Roadmap
3. Share a work in progress version of the Roadmap for at least one of our core teams
4. And then finally transition to this new Roadmap

Is that a roadmap for the roadmap?

BeansnBread said:

What is this mess?

1. Give an explanation of the goals of our new Roadmap and what to expect from it
2. Show a rough mockup of the proposed new Roadmap
3. Share a work in progress version of the Roadmap for at least one of our core teams
4. And then finally transition to this new Roadmap

Is that a roadmap for the roadmap?