Just makes me think the game may be being launched too early. Not talking MH too early, but this, the reduced story and prioritising multiplayer raises questions. I still think we will get a great game, it just makes me question how great?
At least they get to sit in a chair behind a desk all day, unlike those businesses/retail that are required to stand, lift, and physical labour all day. Overtime sucks though, no matter what job you do.
IMHO, would still a great job to have if treated right.
When I was working eons ago I worked in a state in Malaysia where the private firms were 6 1/2 week day. Meaning Saturday half day Sunday off but the government offices in some states in Malaysia observe Thursday half day Friday off. So basically I worked 7 days a week. My boss told me to take any day off but I still had stuff I had to do during the week so never managed in 9 years of working to simply take any day I wanted off unless I got sick.
When I met my European husband I was of the opinion they were lazy because they worked 5 days a week and they complained they worked too much. I was really amazed how much time they get off until my husband pointed out how many public holidays we have in Malaysia because we observe all the religious festivals for Chinese New Year (2 or 3 days depending on the state) , X'Mas, Thaipusam (Hindu), Vesak (Buddhist), Deepavali (Hindu) , 2 Muslim festivals of Hari Raya Haji and Puasa. King's and Sultan's birthdays and on and on. So yeah we have a lot of National and State holidays but still 6 1/2 day week.
All the time I worked I never thought it was too hard at all. Perhaps I was naive but when I see people grousing about working hours I often think back to when I worked and how many nights I went home at 8 pm and was up at 5 am having to travel to another state for work. Ridiculous hours but many people can get fired easily in Malaysia. Not much job security there compared to Italy. Every time I watch Italians work and compare how they work in Malaysia I always think poorly of the Europeans and yet they do well.
So working all that extra hours really isn't that fruitful after all look at Germany and their work ethic, they work less hours and do well. So Malaysia is just inefficient but if things break down here in Italy I have to wait days to get it repaired. In Malaysia people come within the day and have it up and running.
Italy you cannot simply fire people so they slack off and work poorly and it annoys me to no end that they are never in danger of losing their job. They get pregnant and immediately get a letter saying that they might lose the child and get to stay home during the pregnancy at full pay and then maternity leave too. Gaming the system but I don't know which is better because in my office one clerk came to work after 3 days from having delivered her child because she could not afford to stay home and wanted extra pay for the 2 weeks maternity leave. My boss was thrilled to have her back. Her husband was a lazy bum.
There is a certain amount of working hours on your contract though, it doesn't say "until all the work is done and the boss decides it is time.
...yep, that is why I say any decent job.
Hourly jobs are for peasants where what they do is unimportant enough to be left undone.
Spoken like an idiot salaryman who actually makes less per hour than a sanitation worker.
But hey dress them in a white collar and they can then look down on peasants with confidence.
LMAO
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Italy you cannot simply fire people so they slack off and work poorly and it annoys me to no end that they are never in danger of losing their job. They get pregnant and immediately get a letter saying that they might lose the child and get to stay home during the pregnancy at full pay and then maternity leave too. Gaming the system but I don't know which is better because in my office one clerk came to work after 3 days from having delivered her child because she could not afford to stay home and wanted extra pay for the 2 weeks maternity leave. My boss was thrilled to have her back. Her husband was a lazy bum.
There's something absolutely wonderful and at the same frustrating when it comes to Italy.
I love how it's so laid back, that nothing is "so" important that it has to be rush, rush rush.
Until you can't get a thing or as you say, something needs to get fixed.
As far as the topic, while I am a full believer in 5 day work weeks and working sensible hours, sometimes it's a "pick your poison" scenario.
There are times that the hours at hand just can't get things done. I can easily see why people working in game development would need to work more hours up to release though there is a part of me that thinks they should just push the launch back a little to ease that stress.
Maybe some day video game workers will unionize. Which is good and bad at the same time.
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I personally like how my work looks after this kind of thing. They ask for people to willing work later. No demands. If I was forced to work 6 days a week, I would quickly look for a new job. I Work to live, not live to work. Family time comes first.
I feel that they are exaggerating everything, many work do that without problem and in game companies that is more common because they have to finish the game in a certain time and it will always happen that they will have to work a few months overtime to achieve the delivery date.
If they do not reward you in some way, it may be the problem but nothing serious. But if you study or want to work in a gaming company, that's common.
I work in a hosting company and there are times that we have to migrate many clients to another server and that takes a long time depending on the number of clients and the backup to verify that all the information is transferred without problem, we have to stay later since those changes They are made at night, we do not receive extra money but yes, they give us the day off depending on the server situation or sometimes we have to stay months late but the company rewards us in some way. (I've been in the company for 13 years)
If you are not willing to do that, you are in the wrong profession
I know the expected reaction is going to be to call the company evil and talk about their "mistreatment" of their employees, but this is quite reasonable. So they have to work an extra (paid) day a week for 6 weeks. Wow... a whopping 6 extra days...
My company will institute mandatory OT from Nov 1 to Jan 15
It's called running a business that has peaks and deadlines.
makes me remember when I had to work sunday to sunday for 3 weeks to get things in line, and I knew I had to do it so I didn't cried like it would kill me.
later devs complain no one respect then, I need to ask how anyone would? most work are garbage nowadays, and then we had "devs" like him crying life is hard
Spoken like an idiot salaryman who actually makes less per hour than a sanitation worker.
...well, you have spoken like a true peasant who doesn't understand the difference between wage and salary.
I understand it perfectly. Salary is when they get you to work at a lower hourly rate and make you feel good about it because they tell you you're now important... and you buy it.
Works like a charm on the self-important morons like you and allows the company to pocket the extra cash.
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
This is much ado about nothing. Crunch is a problem, but this is the employees essentially being asked for 7 days of paid overtime. Not 7 days per week. 7 days in totality at the end of this project.
I understand it perfectly. Salary is when they get you to work at a lower hourly rate and make you feel good about it because they tell you you're now important... and you buy it.
Works like a charm on the self-important morons like you and allows the company to pocket the extra cash.
...yep, don't forget to mention this next time someone complains how much Kotick is making - poor self-important moron being exploited by the company. Hey, they are saving money on him!!
Holy fuck....you guys are truly a piece of work...
I understand it perfectly. Salary is when they get you to work at a lower hourly rate and make you feel good about it because they tell you you're now important... and you buy it.
Works like a charm on the self-important morons like you and allows the company to pocket the extra cash.
...yep, all those top managers and CEOs of biggest corporations are exploited and tricked by lower hourly rate than they deserve. Poor self-important morons.
Holy fuck....you guys are truly a piece of work...
No the execs take care of themselves with salaries well beyond what any hourly or lower level salaryman makes.
It's the white collar salarymen, like I said, who think their 80 hours per week will see them rise to the top sometime before the stroke or heart attack from overwork gets them.
Why do you think lawyers charge by the hour? Hint: time = money.
Piece of work indeed. Self-important idiot overtly looking down on "peasants."
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Hourly jobs are for peasants where what they do is unimportant enough to be left undone.
IMHO, would still a great job to have if treated right.
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When I met my European husband I was of the opinion they were lazy because they worked 5 days a week and they complained they worked too much. I was really amazed how much time they get off until my husband pointed out how many public holidays we have in Malaysia because we observe all the religious festivals for Chinese New Year (2 or 3 days depending on the state) , X'Mas, Thaipusam (Hindu), Vesak (Buddhist), Deepavali (Hindu) , 2 Muslim festivals of Hari Raya Haji and Puasa. King's and Sultan's birthdays and on and on. So yeah we have a lot of National and State holidays but still 6 1/2 day week.
All the time I worked I never thought it was too hard at all. Perhaps I was naive but when I see people grousing about working hours I often think back to when I worked and how many nights I went home at 8 pm and was up at 5 am having to travel to another state for work. Ridiculous hours but many people can get fired easily in Malaysia. Not much job security there compared to Italy. Every time I watch Italians work and compare how they work in Malaysia I always think poorly of the Europeans and yet they do well.
So working all that extra hours really isn't that fruitful after all look at Germany and their work ethic, they work less hours and do well. So Malaysia is just inefficient but if things break down here in Italy I have to wait days to get it repaired. In Malaysia people come within the day and have it up and running.
Italy you cannot simply fire people so they slack off and work poorly and it annoys me to no end that they are never in danger of losing their job. They get pregnant and immediately get a letter saying that they might lose the child and get to stay home during the pregnancy at full pay and then maternity leave too. Gaming the system but I don't know which is better because in my office one clerk came to work after 3 days from having delivered her child because she could not afford to stay home and wanted extra pay for the 2 weeks maternity leave. My boss was thrilled to have her back. Her husband was a lazy bum.
But hey dress them in a white collar and they can then look down on peasants with confidence.
LMAO
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― CD PROJEKT RED
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/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I love how it's so laid back, that nothing is "so" important that it has to be rush, rush rush.
Until you can't get a thing or as you say, something needs to get fixed.
As far as the topic, while I am a full believer in 5 day work weeks and working sensible hours, sometimes it's a "pick your poison" scenario.
There are times that the hours at hand just can't get things done. I can easily see why people working in game development would need to work more hours up to release though there is a part of me that thinks they should just push the launch back a little to ease that stress.
Maybe some day video game workers will unionize. Which is good and bad at the same time.
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If they do not reward you in some way, it may be the problem but nothing serious. But if you study or want to work in a gaming company, that's common.
I work in a hosting company and there are times that we have to migrate many clients to another server and that takes a long time depending on the number of clients and the backup to verify that all the information is transferred without problem, we have to stay later since those changes They are made at night, we do not receive extra money but yes, they give us the day off depending on the server situation or sometimes we have to stay months late but the company rewards us in some way. (I've been in the company for 13 years)
If you are not willing to do that, you are in the wrong profession
and I'm not from NA
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The importance/responsibility, cannot be measured in hourly rate. You are simply paid to get the job done.
Do you think his boss is paid by an hour? Do you believe any top managers are working on per hour basis?
makes me remember when I had to work sunday to sunday for 3 weeks to get things in line, and I knew I had to do it so I didn't cried like it would kill me.
later devs complain no one respect then, I need to ask how anyone would? most work are garbage nowadays, and then we had "devs" like him crying life is hard
Works like a charm on the self-important morons like you and allows the company to pocket the extra cash.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
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Holy fuck....you guys are truly a piece of work...
It's the white collar salarymen, like I said, who think their 80 hours per week will see them rise to the top sometime before the stroke or heart attack from overwork gets them.
Why do you think lawyers charge by the hour? Hint: time = money.
Piece of work indeed. Self-important idiot overtly looking down on "peasants."
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
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