He REALLY missed my point now didn't he. Then again, so did Trollol. Same old, same old.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
...the third time is the charm? I guess not...
Nah, you're right. your third response still lacks any charm, itt isn't even entertaining or witty. Its just repeating the same line in the hopes of it becoming true. Nice trick though, putting yourself on repeat until the other one gives up. Now you know two cheap debating tricks.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Why do people even bother with this? Why not play Elite Dangerous, Outer Worlds, or No Mans Sky?
Because there are not... Star Citizen.
I did pledged to ED and even got lifetime free update. I won't play NMS or EVE because there are not my type of space games. Outer words is not a space game.
Many ED and EVE players do support SC.
I stopped playing ED years ago and have hundreds hours in SC Alpha. My best 45$ ratio vs entertainment.
If all you've invested is $45 you don't even deserve to call yourself a fan. Quit being a chizler and break out that wallet.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Its just repeating the same line in the hopes of it becoming true.
...eh, it's you who is repeatedly failing to grasp a simple point.
I am just pointing it out, it's was true the first time and it is still true now.
When JoeBlobber pointed out to 1M backers, your reply was:
"7,8 billion people on the planet and not even 4 million of them interested in SC, if you want to make BS comparisons I can easily top you."
You call that a BS comparison but ironically, you are the only one to make such comparison.
JoeBlobber pointed out to 1M backers, which is the only number that matters there, thus your 7.8B comparison is just epic fail on your end.
Considering above, your further comments are even more funny...
That's what happens when you try to score above your league.
Sigh, it really went straight over your head. So here, let me spell it out.
Joe pointed out 1M backers IN COMPARISON to 10 haters on these forums. He did so on purpose to compare a really big number to an unrelated really small number. A dishonest comparison in favour of SC to show just how big and popular it is. No where did he just mention 1M like you are suggesting now.
In response I took those 1M backers and made them look really small in comparison to the world population in an succesful attempt to show the ridiculousness of HIS comparison, which is comparing unrelated numbers as to make a point. Surprise, it doesn't.
You then swooped in, didn't pay any effort, ran your mouth, and look like a fool while insulting yourself deeper into the hole you have dug yourself into.
I mean, I love to play with you but at least pay attention...
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
lahnmir said: A dishonest comparison in favour of SC to show just how big and popular it is.
....it's not dishonest, 1M backers does show the popularity of SC. It is a statement of fact and legitimate point.
He even explicitely told you that in following comment:
"7,8 billion people on the planet and 20 comments of naysayers vs 1 million individual backers. facts not BS dude"
The "dishonest", or rather stupid, was your comparison to 7.8B.
To recap again:
comparison to backers = valid comparison to non-backers = invalid
It's not about numbers difference - your epic fail, it is about numbers you compare, ie. you would need to make a comparison to a game with higher sub numbers.
You didn't get the point, your argument is/was fallacious, you keep acting as if you were smarter than you demonstratively are.
And there I was so proud of you for accepting your limitations... /sigh
lahnmir said: A dishonest comparison in favour of SC to show just how big and popular it is.
....it's not dishonest, 1M backers does show the popularity of SC. It is a statement of fact and legitimate point.
He even explicitely told you that in following comment:
"7,8 billion people on the planet and 20 comments of naysayers vs 1 million individual backers. facts not BS dude"
The "dishonest", or rather stupid, was your comparison to 7.8B.
To recap again:
comparison to backers = valid comparison to non-backers = invalid
It's not about numbers difference - your epic fail, it is about numbers you compare, ie. you would need to make a comparison to a game with higher sub numbers.
You didn't get the point, your argument is/was fallacious, you keep acting as if you were smarter than you demonstratively are.
And there I was so proud of you for accepting your limitations... /sigh
Sigh....
Comparing people on a single specific forum who dislike SC with every single backer of SC ever lumped together = valid and not stupid? What is wrong with you? And that is dishonest, honest would be comparing every person who likes SC to every person who doesn't.
G logic at its finest but its okay. I know you don't want to be right, you just want to have the argument and call others dumb. So you did, you must feel great now.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
lahnmir said: A dishonest comparison in favour of SC to show just how big and popular it is.
....it's not dishonest, 1M backers does show the popularity of SC. It is a statement of fact and legitimate point.
He even explicitely told you that in following comment:
"7,8 billion people on the planet and 20 comments of naysayers vs 1 million individual backers. facts not BS dude"
The "dishonest", or rather stupid, was your comparison to 7.8B.
To recap again:
comparison to backers = valid comparison to non-backers = invalid
It's not about numbers difference - your epic fail, it is about numbers you compare, ie. you would need to make a comparison to a game with higher sub numbers.
You didn't get the point, your argument is/was fallacious, you keep acting as if you were smarter than you demonstratively are.
And there I was so proud of you for accepting your limitations... /sigh
Sigh....
Comparing people on a single specific forum who dislike SC with every single backer of SC ever lumped together = valid and not stupid? What is wrong with you? And that is dishonest, honest would be comparing every person who likes SC to every person who doesn't.
G logic at its finest but its okay. I know you don't want to be right, you just want to have the argument and call others dumb. So you did, you must feel great now.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
I wouldn't waste anymore time going back and forth with a flat earther.
Comparing people on a single specific forum who dislike SC with every single backer of SC ever lumped together = valid and not stupid? What is wrong with you? And that is dishonest, honest would be comparing every person who likes SC to every person who doesn't.
Indeed, that's valid point because people who do not play/do not pay do not count, it's irrelevant metrics - the point that keeps slipping your feeble mind.
Wrong? I am just not stupid and that's probably wrong tho...
Comparing people on a single specific forum who dislike SC with every single backer of SC ever lumped together = valid and not stupid? What is wrong with you? And that is dishonest, honest would be comparing every person who likes SC to every person who doesn't.
Indeed, that's valid point because people who do not play/do not pay do not count, it's irrelevant metrics - the point that keeps slipping your feeble mind.
Wrong? I am just not stupid and that's probably wrong tho...
For fun I'll explain it a bit more, I understand fair comparisons are complex for one who never makes them:
Comparing everyone from group A (in this case everyone who has ever been critical of SC) Versus everyone from group B (everyone who has ever backed SC) = Valid
Comparing a very specific subgroup from group A (Vocal people on mmorpg.com) Versus everyone from group B (everyone who has ever backed SC) = Invalid
The same parameters have to apply to be able to make a fair comparison, that is not the case here.
1M = fact 10 naysayers on mmorpg.com = fact 7.8B world population = fact Any kind of relation between the three above = nonsense
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I remember when the white knights would come out swinging on these posts. Now they are becoming more and more of a ghost town. RIP the only fun thing about Start Shitizen.
Spending more time playing than defending the game to ten (or so) people that aren't here for games, just arguments. The same ten lifeless individuals you can see in about every thread pontificating on topics they have little to no first hand experience with but somehow think they have an expert opinion on. Why waste time trying to get them out of their small minded ways? I'd rather just go enjoy my hobby and not worry about what they have to bitch/whine/moan about on a given day.
I hope that clears it up for you.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
Literally 10's naysayers vs 1 million individual backers having zero influence on the project, whatever they leave as comments or likes
7,8 billion people on the planet and not even 4 million of them interested in SC, if you want to make BS comparisons I can easily top you.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
7,8 billion people on the planet and 20 comments of naysayers vs 1 million individual backers. facts not BS dude
Such a lazy argument. You know there's more people alive with computers that can run SC that dont play the game than there are people that play the game. Oh no.... That means your game sucks... Well anyway if i go by your logic.
If you really want to think properly, look at the actual comments. Out of 20 people only 2-3 defend the game, and they are usually the same people. While the other 20+ people are usually different....
But meh.. whatever.
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Tanking this hysterical argument further, 1 million backers and what was the last estimate of money raised - 362 million? That means on average each backer spend 362 USD on what? A tech demo that keeps getting pushed back because the developers don't have any clue on how to manage a project. This is sad, really.
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Can I join your BS statistic competition?
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Issues more news and videos
Never release
Keep cashing in from gullible people
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
I am just pointing it out, it's was true the first time and it is still true now.
When JoeBlobber pointed out to 1M backers, your reply was:
"7,8 billion people on the planet and not even 4 million of them interested in SC, if you want to make BS comparisons I can easily top you."
You call that a BS comparison but ironically, you are the only one to make such comparison.
JoeBlobber pointed out to 1M backers, which is the only number that matters there, thus your 7.8B comparison is just epic fail on your end.
Considering above, your further comments are even more funny...
That's what happens when you try to score above your league.
Out of 100 of your last posts tagged with LOL, I contributed by 17 lols only.
If all you've invested is $45 you don't even deserve to call yourself a fan. Quit being a chizler and break out that wallet.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Please stop, it's sad to see people digging themselves into a hole, especially when they aren't aware they are doing so.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Joe pointed out 1M backers IN COMPARISON to 10 haters on these forums. He did so on purpose to compare a really big number to an unrelated really small number. A dishonest comparison in favour of SC to show just how big and popular it is. No where did he just mention 1M like you are suggesting now.
In response I took those 1M backers and made them look really small in comparison to the world population in an succesful attempt to show the ridiculousness of HIS comparison, which is comparing unrelated numbers as to make a point. Surprise, it doesn't.
You then swooped in, didn't pay any effort, ran your mouth, and look like a fool while insulting yourself deeper into the hole you have dug yourself into.
I mean, I love to play with you but at least pay attention...
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
He even explicitely told you that in following comment:
"7,8 billion people on the planet and 20 comments of naysayers vs 1 million individual backers. facts not BS dude"
The "dishonest", or rather stupid, was your comparison to 7.8B.
To recap again:
comparison to backers = valid
comparison to non-backers = invalid
It's not about numbers difference - your epic fail, it is about numbers you compare, ie. you would need to make a comparison to a game with higher sub numbers.
You didn't get the point, your argument is/was fallacious, you keep acting as if you were smarter than you demonstratively are.
And there I was so proud of you for accepting your limitations... /sigh
Comparing people on a single specific forum who dislike SC with every single backer of SC ever lumped together = valid and not stupid? What is wrong with you? And that is dishonest, honest would be comparing every person who likes SC to every person who doesn't.
G logic at its finest but its okay. I know you don't want to be right, you just want to have the argument and call others dumb. So you did, you must feel great now.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Indeed, that's valid point because people who do not play/do not pay do not count, it's irrelevant metrics - the point that keeps slipping your feeble mind.
Wrong? I am just not stupid and that's probably wrong tho...
Comparing everyone from group A (in this case everyone who has ever been critical of SC) Versus everyone from group B (everyone who has ever backed SC) = Valid
Comparing a very specific subgroup from group A (Vocal people on mmorpg.com) Versus everyone from group B (everyone who has ever backed SC) = Invalid
The same parameters have to apply to be able to make a fair comparison, that is not the case here.
1M = fact
10 naysayers on mmorpg.com = fact
7.8B world population = fact
Any kind of relation between the three above = nonsense
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Spending more time playing than defending the game to ten (or so) people that aren't here for games, just arguments. The same ten lifeless individuals you can see in about every thread pontificating on topics they have little to no first hand experience with but somehow think they have an expert opinion on. Why waste time trying to get them out of their small minded ways? I'd rather just go enjoy my hobby and not worry about what they have to bitch/whine/moan about on a given day.
I hope that clears it up for you.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
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Such a lazy argument. You know there's more people alive with computers that can run SC that dont play the game than there are people that play the game. Oh no.... That means your game sucks... Well anyway if i go by your logic.
If you really want to think properly, look at the actual comments. Out of 20 people only 2-3 defend the game, and they are usually the same people. While the other 20+ people are usually different....
But meh.. whatever.
Basically clicking away text windows ruins every MMO, try to have fun instead of rushing things. Without story and lore all there is left is a bunch of mechanics.
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