dunadurium, don't mind me about the sentence structure thing..I can be anal about stupid stuff like that. I apologize.
I also wanted to just reiterate with you that except for that VG community tangent I went off on, I pretty much agreed with everything else you said in your post (about people really needing challenge in their games, whether they know it or not). I think that's a pretty good accessment.
And about MS cancelling Mythica due to lack of progress, that very well could be to. I'm not really familiar with the whole Mythica story, I just know it was cancelled like so many others (UO2, UXO, Dragon Empires, Wish, etc.) back in the 'dark age' of MMOs .
According to the standards placed herein, I will fully admit I am an elitist. I enjoy challenge, socializing, and adventuring - and all the loss and gain that comes with that. I also freely admit that I will make judgments about a person based on how they communicate in game. Things such as, "ur" or "thx" immediately gives me the impression that the person the other end has a completely different playstyle than myself.
Perhaps this comes with age. Before you get all bent out of shape, allow me to explain. Younger generation gamers have grown UP with games, they've never known a life without computers, consoles, or internet. I'll be the first to say that I am jealous of that. However, I was growing up when home PCs were considered an impossibility, computers were large rooms with kettle sized metal disks, and Atari 2600 was considered the end all be all of gaming. It's a completely different world now - one, I believe, is taken for granted by the younger set - AND SHOULD BE - because they're lucky.
But I just don't want to play with them. I consider short-hand typing equal to speaking in acronym constantly. Not only that, but immersion suffers when I have to translate what is supposed to be my native language.
So once again, I am an elitist - and if this chases you away from Vanguard, then so much the better. I think there SHOULD be games that appeal to different sets - I'll gladly take the Lawrence Welk of MMOs, and you can take the Hip Upstarts... We're all going into a completely different social interaction between the ages - and this is just another sign of things to come.
Originally posted by SkarsTZ I TOTALLY agree with Etcarr here. I am *not* going to wait till beta to see how these things get implemented. I am *not* going to try the game myself and see if I enjoy it I am going to pass on this game because on the official forums of a game before beta with 20k people there are some hardcore people. I'm also going to read a few FAQ quotes and decide this game is obviously going to suck, I'm not going to see if they can make travel fun, not tedious, I will just assume it will be. SO BYE GUYS
this whole situation of having instances and not having instances is a mixed bag....i dunno if there is an answer yet; some people like being in an instance, and some dont.
i personally like being around people, even if i dont wanna talk to people i still dig being around people....we are social creatures, even in our seclusion...
i dont like instances, but i also dont like people camping shit 24/7.....so how do you fix that?
What I like about the initial post is how you say "I learned my lesson in EQ1." It's definitely a good thing to realize. Because EQ has been the only mmo out thus far that has made anything worthwhile or counted. Nothing counts in wow, daoc, ac, etc. Pre-expansion everquest was for the 'leetest of leet' and you knew who they were by what items they had acquired. It showed. People knew great players names, and the community was tight knit, even if full of scams, betrayals, and snobby people. I'd rather be part of a smaller tight knit community of people who play alot than the flakiness that WoW is.
Originally posted by Zolden What I like about the initial post is how you say "I learned my lesson in EQ1." It's definitely a good thing to realize. Because EQ has been the only mmo out thus far that has made anything worthwhile or counted. Nothing counts in wow, daoc, ac, etc. Pre-expansion everquest was for the 'leetest of leet' and you knew who they were by what items they had acquired. It showed. People knew great players names, and the community was tight knit, even if full of scams, betrayals, and snobby people. I'd rather be part of a smaller tight knit community of people who play alot than the flakiness that WoW is.
well said bro, i wouldnt trade the 6 years i played EverQuest for anything. Week long camps, countless days of playing straight, i dont regret it, it was ALOT of fun.
Exactly the point, most people dont even know what a community is. Unless from pre expansion EQ or Ultima Online.
From watching my girlfriend play WoW she rarely ever sees the same characters playing 2 days in a row. Its just like counter strike or a game similiar turned into an RPG? It doesnt really make sense to me. I mean half the battle of an MMO is getting TEAMWORK down to a KEY. Least that is what i always thought, but with how games are releasing now, you just need a small PICKUP group of random people with no coordination and they will STILL get the objective. I mean, sure there are a handful of elite players that play WoW, and most likely those that are considered ELITE on WoW and other similiar games, wouldnt hold a snowballs chance in hell if they had to compete with the old EQ players or UO. They just dont have our dedication =p
I mean, god knows i had done 32 hour spawns 16 hours spawns hell week long spawns, it took alot of patience, and hard work, but i got all i wanted, and had fun doing it. Most games today, are going on the basis of Brand names, such as Turbine and the Dungeons and Dragons theme and the Lord of the rings thing, they are mashing together, (BTW i played the open beta for DDO, it was horrid, very buggy just info for people) Hopefully Vanguard will offer that old EQ feeling i miss so much.
But oh well back to the point, Dont play Vanguard go ahead pass it up, i dont care, have fun in that horrid game were gettign things means nothing and all the time you spent doing things means... nothing. Cause it can all be gotten by me in about 2 months of hardcore playing, on what would probally take a l33t sk33t newbies such as yourself a full year of playing. go back to your joke ass game, and stop posting on our forums.
Originally posted by Etcarr First of all, the guys over at Sigil have stated that they don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater... certain things will not be part of Vanguard. One of those things is instancing. Well, I do NOT agree that instancing is a bad thing. IF a game was created with no instancing, the servers would need to be very localized so that players from +6 timezones do not get an unfair advantage to the game content. We learned in EQ1 that it is simply a bad design when players with a timezone advantage are able to have more fun and see more game content than other players. Second of all, travel. Sigil says that travel should be fun, not trival. While I agree that SoE went overboard with portals and "hub zones" in EQ1, it is not my idea of fun having to hack through tons of content to get to any destination. EQ1 had classes (druid and wizard) that where rendered obolete by the hub zones. But to make all travel "interesting" by any standard will make the game too time intensive. Thirdly... if the forums over at www.vanguardsoh.com are any indication of the type of players that this game will attract, count me out. I am not a power gamer with no life outside of the game. The Vanguard message forums are full of hard core gamers... and there is no way I want to get sucked into a compitition with hard core gamers. I learned my lesson with EQ1. No thanks, not making that mistake again.
Good, thank god. You have made the right decision on not buying this game when it comes out, stick to your instant gratification in WoW and other baby games like that. Give the hardcore gamers a Real mmorpg the way it is Supposed to be, we invented the damn genre for god sake. I hope other WoW players do not buy this game because they will Only Ruin it by submitting feedback saying things like ooh im not leveling fast enough, im getting ganked. This is NOT a hold your hand kind of game, go play xbox for that. Instancing has Ruined the Genre by making it non mmorpg, why pay for a game to play by yourself? This game will have real depth and challenges, it is the Savior to the MMORPG Genre of Computer Games. This game will take back to the true roots of mmorpg's like EQ1, pre cu Swg, and even Daoc. I can't wait.
Ok i'll stop preaching to you now No hard feelings
Originally posted by SkarsTZ I TOTALLY agree with Etcarr here.I am *not* going to wait till beta to see how these things get implemented. I am *not* going to try the game myself and see if I enjoy itI am going to pass on this game because on the official forums of a game before beta with 20k people there are some hardcore people.I'm also going to read a few FAQ quotes and decide this game is obviously going to suck, I'm not going to see if they can make travel fun, not tedious, I will just assume it will be.SO BYE GUYS
To the OP,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Given your concerns, I think you would really enjoy DDO. I believe its design is geared more to your tastes than Vanguard. That's one of the great things about this industry, there are enough games out there that each person is likely to find one that makes them happy. The biggest challenge is to develop a strong enough community with a shared vision to support and nurture your interests in a particular game.
Vanguard is definitely designed to cater to a specific type of gamer who likes to play a certain way. It is not (and has never claimed to be) the game that will meet everyone's needs. Personally, I'm very interested in Vanguard as my play-style is aligned greatly with the game's design. However, I don't believe that it will have the same commercial success as WoW nor that it will reach as broad an audience as it is geared for more hardcore gamers.
Concerning the tone on the official Vanguard forums, I share your concerns. Some of this is compounded by the lack of information from Sigil which fuels speculation and opinion based debates, not fact based debates. In general, I avoid the official Vanguard forums and spend my time on the affiliate sites. If you're not aware, Vanguard has taken a novel approach to their community by fostering the growth of affiliate sites that support (manage) the community. For the most part, each of these sites has taken on a specific aspect of the game (i.e., a certain class like the Druids Grove, or a specific sphere like Vanguard Crafters). When the game goes live, the official Vanguard forum will shut down (except for a technical issues page) and all forum discussions will be the responsibility of each affiliate site. We'll have to see how this affects the tone of the debate, but so far the affiliate sites have more mature discussions. My favorites are Silky Venom and Ten Ton Hammer
Originally posted by Etcarr First of all, the guys over at Sigil have stated that they don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater... certain things will not be part of Vanguard. One of those things is instancing. Well, I do NOT agree that instancing is a bad thing. IF a game was created with no instancing, the servers would need to be very localized so that players from +6 timezones do not get an unfair advantage to the game content. We learned in EQ1 that it is simply a bad design when players with a timezone advantage are able to have more fun and see more game content than other players. Second of all, travel. Sigil says that travel should be fun, not trival. While I agree that SoE went overboard with portals and "hub zones" in EQ1, it is not my idea of fun having to hack through tons of content to get to any destination. EQ1 had classes (druid and wizard) that where rendered obolete by the hub zones. But to make all travel "interesting" by any standard will make the game too time intensive. Thirdly... if the forums over at www.vanguardsoh.com are any indication of the type of players that this game will attract, count me out. I am not a power gamer with no life outside of the game. The Vanguard message forums are full of hard core gamers... and there is no way I want to get sucked into a compitition with hard core gamers. I learned my lesson with EQ1. No thanks, not making that mistake again.
I understand the time concerns however instancing has become a crutch for many games to throw out 100's of lackluster unoriginal uninspired "dungeons" for people to trample thru, rinse and repeat. City of Heroes and the LDON expansion of EQI and the dungeons of EQII are all great examples of how generic most instanced dungeons are and how repetitive dungeons get when only four to five templates are used for 100's of dungeons. Go to warehouse and kill 20 goons, go to warehouse #2 and kill 20 other goons etc etc. D&D Online looks to be much the same.
To me and probably others who played the pen and paper and dice version of D&D, travel and exploration were part of the game and a fun part at that. Setting camps, watching for Rogues in the night, or nasty monsters, making decisions about setting a fire or not, traveling by road or by sea or thru woods etc was fun at the table and theoretically could be fun in a video game if done right.
Unfortunately the "Hard Core" tend to be the ones to surf forums. Stereotypically your average "Joe" playing 2-5 hours a week doesn't post about what ticks him off and what he loves because as you said, they have other life outside of MMORPGing.
Overall I think alot of people might enjoy Vanguard that right now aren't giving it a chance because of it's differences. However without travel and with instancing what you have is D&D Online which might be more up your alley. Log in to a "Community" town, get quest, teleport directly to instanced dungeon and do quest and repeat. That to me just doesn't feel like a true online world. I think Vanguard will feel like a true online world or closer than anything before it.
Originally posted by Drumwiz Give the hardcore gamers a Real mmorpg the way it is Supposed to be, we invented the damn genre for god sake. I hope other WoW players do not buy this game because they will Only Ruin it by submitting feedback saying things like ooh im not leveling fast enough, im getting ganked. This is NOT a hold your hand kind of game, go play xbox for that. Instancing has Ruined the Genre by making it non mmorpg, why pay for a game to play by yourself? This game will have real depth and challenges, it is the Savior to the MMORPG Genre of Computer Games. This game will take back to the true roots of mmorpg's like EQ1, pre cu Swg, and even Daoc. I can't wait. Ok i'll stop preaching to you now No hard feelings
I agree, no one from WoW should play, or anyone for that matter. The "hardcore" are nothing but a band of useless kiddies, with no responsibilty or lives so they can waste all kind of time on a crappy game like Vanguard. It will not even have enough players for the flyspeck called Vanguard to matter in the MMORPG world! You didn't invent sh*t "hardcore", D&D been around since the 70's and you KIDDIES weren't there!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Im amused that people keep saying that players from WoW should not be playing Vanguard, because the ultimate truth in the universe acording to some is that WoW is filled with children.
I just want to say that i played more WoW than i would care to admit, and currently im playing a certain beta2 since Chirstmas, to be honest, that game is looking great, but its not the "harcore" experience some are salivating about, its a mmorpg, the gameplay is akin to final fantasy XI in terms of what you can solo or not, apart from that, run of the mill fantasy mmorpg, tho as it still early, many styff will be added in the coming year.
Originally posted by sebbonx I agree, no one from WoW should play, or anyone for that matter. The "hardcore" are nothing but a band of useless kiddies, with no responsibilty or lives so they can waste all kind of time on a crappy game like Vanguard. It will not even have enough players for the flyspeck called Vanguard to matter in the MMORPG world! You didn't invent sh*t "hardcore", D&D been around since the 70's and you KIDDIES weren't there!
You and WoW are perfect for each other, never leave it! And if you get bored, just re-roll and get to 60 again!
Both Anarchy and Darken have more than enough reasons to dislike alot of the more immature WoW crowd, one of the reasons i left WoW was the lack of content at the end game, but if you add on top of that the ignorant pricks whose sole goal in life is to make your time playing WoW the worst experience possible, then you can say i left running and will keep running untill the expansion hits, then i might reactivate to try out the new races and areas, as i love the lore behind WoW, so every bit of story helps
I´m pretty exited about Brad and Sigil´s work with vanguard, its not a revolution, but its a breath of fresh air on the mmorpg genre, for once, the developers are listening to the players feedback and we have a community that is mature enough to understand that the most important think is not "phat loot" but making friends and beeing social, as i liked to say to my WoW guildmates, "friends before epics".
Vanguard will provide the tools for some excelent gameplay and good fun, beyond that, i think the players are the ones that will make or brake the game, much like it was with EQ and UO when they were launched, i had some great fun there, and i truly hope i will have the same experience with Vanguard.
I just got done looking through the boards and I can't believe that there are fanboys for a game that isn't even out yet.
I would just tell everyone not to get your hopes up because chances are they will take things out before launch. Look at DnL, everyone was all excited about it and people were raving about it and then Settlers came and people hated it. So just don't fall for it again (Like EQ2 launch and DnL.)
Originally posted by Kem0sabe Im amused that people keep saying that players from WoW should not be playing Vanguard, because the ultimate truth in the universe acording to some is that WoW is filled with children.
I totally agree with this misconception, but it's people like the asshat that posted above you that give WoW it's immature image.
You show you are a Vanguard player with this comment, btw this isn't Vanguard boards, your post (and you) have been reported. It is perfectly legit to HATE Vanguard as most of the MMORPG population do! You are the puny minority!
Vanguard is nothing more then a rehash of EQ, a game only popular because no one was around to compete, you will be lucky to launch and won't hold more then a flyspeck of people.
Originally posted by Kem0sabe Im amused that people keep saying that players from WoW should not be playing Vanguard, because the ultimate truth in the universe acording to some is that WoW is filled with children.
I totally agree with this misconception, but it's people like the asshat that posted above you that give WoW it's immature image.
You are the an example of why Vanguard won't have anything but a puny player base, VANGUARD SUCKS !!!!! It will be filled with the most childish players, just check their boards!!!!!
Originally posted by Kem0sabe Im amused that people keep saying that players from WoW should not be playing Vanguard, because the ultimate truth in the universe acording to some is that WoW is filled with children.
I totally agree with this misconception, but it's people like the asshat that posted above you that give WoW it's immature image.
You are the an example of why Vanguard won't have anything but a puny player base, VANGUARD SUCKS !!!!! It will be filled with the most childish players, just check their boards!!!!!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Originally posted by sebbonx 5 million players and your aiming for 100k?! Don't bash my game when your PUNY game is made for the wierdo's amounting to a tiny fraction of the MMORPG populace...you're just jealous and like crappy unpopular raid garbage. Go zerg another mob and call it "skill" it's not even remotely skill.
Um, I seriously hope you don't mean WoW because WoW's end game is nothing but 40 man raids.
You seriously need to get a clue if you dont think you are being hypocritical or just play stupid. I am not a fan of Vanguard either but.. really wake up.
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dunadurium, don't mind me about the sentence structure thing..I can be anal about stupid stuff like that. I apologize.
I also wanted to just reiterate with you that except for that VG community tangent I went off on, I pretty much agreed with everything else you said in your post (about people really needing challenge in their games, whether they know it or not). I think that's a pretty good accessment.
And about MS cancelling Mythica due to lack of progress, that very well could be to. I'm not really familiar with the whole Mythica story, I just know it was cancelled like so many others (UO2, UXO, Dragon Empires, Wish, etc.) back in the 'dark age' of MMOs
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According to the standards placed herein, I will fully admit I am an elitist. I enjoy challenge, socializing, and adventuring - and all the loss and gain that comes with that. I also freely admit that I will make judgments about a person based on how they communicate in game. Things such as, "ur" or "thx" immediately gives me the impression that the person the other end has a completely different playstyle than myself.
Perhaps this comes with age. Before you get all bent out of shape, allow me to explain. Younger generation gamers have grown UP with games, they've never known a life without computers, consoles, or internet. I'll be the first to say that I am jealous of that. However, I was growing up when home PCs were considered an impossibility, computers were large rooms with kettle sized metal disks, and Atari 2600 was considered the end all be all of gaming. It's a completely different world now - one, I believe, is taken for granted by the younger set - AND SHOULD BE - because they're lucky.
But I just don't want to play with them. I consider short-hand typing equal to speaking in acronym constantly. Not only that, but immersion suffers when I have to translate what is supposed to be my native language.
So once again, I am an elitist - and if this chases you away from Vanguard, then so much the better. I think there SHOULD be games that appeal to different sets - I'll gladly take the Lawrence Welk of MMOs, and you can take the Hip Upstarts... We're all going into a completely different social interaction between the ages - and this is just another sign of things to come.
this whole situation of having instances and not having instances is a mixed bag....i dunno if there is an answer yet; some people like being in an instance, and some dont.
i personally like being around people, even if i dont wanna talk to people i still dig being around people....we are social creatures, even in our seclusion...
i dont like instances, but i also dont like people camping shit 24/7.....so how do you fix that?
They fix that by having boss mobs spawn in random locations so you can't camp it.
Death to SCS!
well said bro, i wouldnt trade the 6 years i played EverQuest for anything. Week long camps, countless days of playing straight, i dont regret it, it was ALOT of fun.
Exactly the point, most people dont even know what a community is. Unless from pre expansion EQ or Ultima Online.
From watching my girlfriend play WoW she rarely ever sees the same characters playing 2 days in a row. Its just like counter strike or a game similiar turned into an RPG? It doesnt really make sense to me. I mean half the battle of an MMO is getting TEAMWORK down to a KEY. Least that is what i always thought, but with how games are releasing now, you just need a small PICKUP group of random people with no coordination and they will STILL get the objective. I mean, sure there are a handful of elite players that play WoW, and most likely those that are considered ELITE on WoW and other similiar games, wouldnt hold a snowballs chance in hell if they had to compete with the old EQ players or UO. They just dont have our dedication =p
I mean, god knows i had done 32 hour spawns 16 hours spawns hell week long spawns, it took alot of patience, and hard work, but i got all i wanted, and had fun doing it. Most games today, are going on the basis of Brand names, such as Turbine and the Dungeons and Dragons theme and the Lord of the rings thing, they are mashing together, (BTW i played the open beta for DDO, it was horrid, very buggy just info for people) Hopefully Vanguard will offer that old EQ feeling i miss so much.
But oh well back to the point, Dont play Vanguard go ahead pass it up, i dont care, have fun in that horrid game were gettign things means nothing and all the time you spent doing things means... nothing. Cause it can all be gotten by me in about 2 months of hardcore playing, on what would probally take a l33t sk33t newbies such as yourself a full year of playing. go back to your joke ass game, and stop posting on our forums.
Good, thank god. You have made the right decision on not buying this game when it comes out, stick to your instant gratification in WoW and other baby games like that. Give the hardcore gamers a Real mmorpg the way it is Supposed to be, we invented the damn genre for god sake. I hope other WoW players do not buy this game because they will Only Ruin it by submitting feedback saying things like ooh im not leveling fast enough, im getting ganked. This is NOT a hold your hand kind of game, go play xbox for that. Instancing has Ruined the Genre by making it non mmorpg, why pay for a game to play by yourself? This game will have real depth and challenges, it is the Savior to the MMORPG Genre of Computer Games. This game will take back to the true roots of mmorpg's like EQ1, pre cu Swg, and even Daoc. I can't wait.
Ok i'll stop preaching to you now
No hard feelings
LOL, sarcastically true!
To the OP,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Given your concerns, I think you would really enjoy DDO. I believe its design is geared more to your tastes than Vanguard. That's one of the great things about this industry, there are enough games out there that each person is likely to find one that makes them happy. The biggest challenge is to develop a strong enough community with a shared vision to support and nurture your interests in a particular game.
Vanguard is definitely designed to cater to a specific type of gamer who likes to play a certain way. It is not (and has never claimed to be) the game that will meet everyone's needs. Personally, I'm very interested in Vanguard as my play-style is aligned greatly with the game's design. However, I don't believe that it will have the same commercial success as WoW nor that it will reach as broad an audience as it is geared for more hardcore gamers.
Concerning the tone on the official Vanguard forums, I share your concerns. Some of this is compounded by the lack of information from Sigil which fuels speculation and opinion based debates, not fact based debates. In general, I avoid the official Vanguard forums and spend my time on the affiliate sites. If you're not aware, Vanguard has taken a novel approach to their community by fostering the growth of affiliate sites that support (manage) the community. For the most part, each of these sites has taken on a specific aspect of the game (i.e., a certain class like the Druids Grove, or a specific sphere like Vanguard Crafters). When the game goes live, the official Vanguard forum will shut down (except for a technical issues page) and all forum discussions will be the responsibility of each affiliate site. We'll have to see how this affects the tone of the debate, but so far the affiliate sites have more mature discussions. My favorites are Silky Venom and Ten Ton HammerI understand the time concerns however instancing has become a crutch for many games to throw out 100's of lackluster unoriginal uninspired "dungeons" for people to trample thru, rinse and repeat. City of Heroes and the LDON expansion of EQI and the dungeons of EQII are all great examples of how generic most instanced dungeons are and how repetitive dungeons get when only four to five templates are used for 100's of dungeons. Go to warehouse and kill 20 goons, go to warehouse #2 and kill 20 other goons etc etc. D&D Online looks to be much the same.
To me and probably others who played the pen and paper and dice version of D&D, travel and exploration were part of the game and a fun part at that. Setting camps, watching for Rogues in the night, or nasty monsters, making decisions about setting a fire or not, traveling by road or by sea or thru woods etc was fun at the table and theoretically could be fun in a video game if done right.
Unfortunately the "Hard Core" tend to be the ones to surf forums. Stereotypically your average "Joe" playing 2-5 hours a week doesn't post about what ticks him off and what he loves because as you said, they have other life outside of MMORPGing.
Overall I think alot of people might enjoy Vanguard that right now aren't giving it a chance because of it's differences. However without travel and with instancing what you have is D&D Online which might be more up your alley. Log in to a "Community" town, get quest, teleport directly to instanced dungeon and do quest and repeat. That to me just doesn't feel like a true online world. I think Vanguard will feel like a true online world or closer than anything before it.
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If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Im amused that people keep saying that players from WoW should not be playing Vanguard, because the ultimate truth in the universe acording to some is that WoW is filled with children.
I just want to say that i played more WoW than i would care to admit, and currently im playing a certain beta2 since Chirstmas, to be honest, that game is looking great, but its not the "harcore" experience some are salivating about, its a mmorpg, the gameplay is akin to final fantasy XI in terms of what you can solo or not, apart from that, run of the mill fantasy mmorpg, tho as it still early, many styff will be added in the coming year.
All ur Mountain Dew is belong to me.
Both Anarchy and Darken have more than enough reasons to dislike alot of the more immature WoW crowd, one of the reasons i left WoW was the lack of content at the end game, but if you add on top of that the ignorant pricks whose sole goal in life is to make your time playing WoW the worst experience possible, then you can say i left running and will keep running untill the expansion hits, then i might reactivate to try out the new races and areas, as i love the lore behind WoW, so every bit of story helps
I´m pretty exited about Brad and Sigil´s work with vanguard, its not a revolution, but its a breath of fresh air on the mmorpg genre, for once, the developers are listening to the players feedback and we have a community that is mature enough to understand that the most important think is not "phat loot" but making friends and beeing social, as i liked to say to my WoW guildmates, "friends before epics".
Vanguard will provide the tools for some excelent gameplay and good fun, beyond that, i think the players are the ones that will make or brake the game, much like it was with EQ and UO when they were launched, i had some great fun there, and i truly hope i will have the same experience with Vanguard.
All ur Mountain Dew is belong to me.
I just got done looking through the boards and I can't believe that there are fanboys for a game that isn't even out yet.
I would just tell everyone not to get your hopes up because chances are they will take things out before launch. Look at DnL, everyone was all excited about it and people were raving about it and then Settlers came and people hated it. So just don't fall for it again (Like EQ2 launch and DnL.)
Also, I wasn't directing my statement to anyone in this thread. Just making a statement in general that I've seen.
You show you are a Vanguard player with this comment, btw this isn't Vanguard boards, your post (and you) have been reported. It is perfectly legit to HATE Vanguard as most of the MMORPG population do! You are the puny minority!
Vanguard is nothing more then a rehash of EQ, a game only popular because no one was around to compete, you will be lucky to launch and won't hold more then a flyspeck of people.
You are the an example of why Vanguard won't have anything but a puny player base, VANGUARD SUCKS !!!!! It will be filled with the most childish players, just check their boards!!!!!
You are the an example of why Vanguard won't have anything but a puny player base, VANGUARD SUCKS !!!!! It will be filled with the most childish players, just check their boards!!!!!
I rest my case.
I rest my case, look who got their post deleted.
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Um, I seriously hope you don't mean WoW because WoW's end game is nothing but 40 man raids.
You seriously need to get a clue if you dont think you are being hypocritical or just play stupid. I am not a fan of Vanguard either but.. really wake up.
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