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Sony Reportedly Working on New Three-Tier Subscription Service Replacing PlayStation Now and Plus |

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edited December 2021 in News & Features Discussion

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A new report says that Sony is working on its own competitor to Xbox game pass, a new tiered system that would change or combine PlayStation Plus and PlayStation Now.

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  • MurmaiderMurmaider Member UncommonPosts: 123
    If they could allow for streaming and playing games from phones, i think it would do really well.

    A lot of security guards at my work got Xbox game pass just for that feature.

    I see a lot of them sitting at their desk and playing games on their phone.

    I get jealous sometimes. Lol
    maskedweasel
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    This was speculated for some time now and I'm glad it is happening. We had to have something on par with Xbox Game pass. 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Won't be worth it with the way Sony fights for its walled garden. They don't want players from other systems playing together. That's part of why Xbox game pass is so popular, they make it easy to play across all platforms, and would even let ps5 and xbsx players play together if it weren't for Sony. 

    Just have no faith in Sony these days. 
    AlverantApridiselaseritjimmywolf



  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    Good news. XBox game pass needs more competition.
    seamonkey001
     
  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    Won't be worth it with the way Sony fights for its walled garden. They don't want players from other systems playing together. That's part of why Xbox game pass is so popular, they make it easy to play across all platforms, and would even let ps5 and xbsx players play together if it weren't for Sony. 

    Just have no faith in Sony these days. 
    Dunno.. I find it stupid that you can't play for example ark survival with steam players, only Microsoft store players can play it with Xbox players but not other platforms :(
    maskedweasellaserit

  • seamonkey001seamonkey001 Member UncommonPosts: 87
    Figures. After just purchasing a PS4 for my kids as a Christmas gift, they look at doing something similar to XBox. I agree with Vrika that XBox needs competition to possibly lower its prices and Sony is the best thing we got to create competition and the only company Bill Gates cannot buy out.

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  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    Murmaider said:
    If they could allow for streaming and playing games from phones, i think it would do really well.

    A lot of security guards at my work got Xbox game pass just for that feature.

    I see a lot of them sitting at their desk and playing games on their phone.

    I get jealous sometimes. Lol
    I am glad I never worked anywhere where staff thought their working hours should be occupied with games. What confidence in security would you be expected to have if they are watching a gaming screen all the time.
    jimmywolf
  • KratierKratier Member RarePosts: 626
    when companies compete we all benefit usually, like when ps plus started giving free games, now all companies do it
    ConstantineMerus
  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    I wanted to bring up the idea of exclusivity and good deals limiting our gaming freedom. We all play on only certain platforms and buy games from certain sources, even being on Steam means I have no time for Epic apart from freebies.

    These subscriptions tie you to the company involved even more, after all if you only play one game you are not getting your monies worth. So you play two or three, or four. It makes financial sense but ties you in to one menu, in other words you get nothing for free which is what the subscription may be making you think you are getting.
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Scot said:
    I wanted to bring up the idea of exclusivity and good deals limiting our gaming freedom. We all play on only certain platforms and buy games from certain sources, even being on Steam means I have no time for Epic apart from freebies.

    These subscriptions tie you to the company involved even more, after all if you only play one game you are not getting your monies worth. So you play two or three, or four. It makes financial sense but ties you in to one menu, in other words you get nothing for free which is what the subscription may be making you think you are getting.
    You know Scot, people actually like their consoles. ;) 

    I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. Ps5 is my favourite platform for gaming. I pay £35 a year for my sub and I get about £1400 free games and if you are an impulse buyer like me then close to £2000 on exclusive discounts.

    Now there some MMOs that I don't get on my console. And some Xbox exclusives too.

    Tbh, there hasn't been a single title before that I had cared. And if I would want to play Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield then I would buy an Xbox too. Another £350.a lot cheaper than almost any PC component. 

    The annual £35 is for online services. It's a bit more but you can sync sub to Black Friday sale. And you get a lot of contents for free, and there are several cosmetics and add-ons free for Plus members too.

    I got my console for £350 directly from Sony, exclusive invite as a loyal customer. 

    How am I losing money here? This is the cheapest mode of high quality gaming. 

    I prefer a competitive market over a monopoly. If Microsoft hadn't bought Zenimax then Sony wouldn't had bought like 15 more studies to work on several projects and remakes. And without Gamepass, then again Sony didn't have to bring this new and much better subscription service neither.
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    @scot I am trying to recruit you! :) 
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Scot said:
    I wanted to bring up the idea of exclusivity and good deals limiting our gaming freedom. We all play on only certain platforms and buy games from certain sources, even being on Steam means I have no time for Epic apart from freebies.

    These subscriptions tie you to the company involved even more, after all if you only play one game you are not getting your monies worth. So you play two or three, or four. It makes financial sense but ties you in to one menu, in other words you get nothing for free which is what the subscription may be making you think you are getting.
    You know Scot, people actually like their consoles. ;) 


    Is OK, I've accepted that other people are doing it wrong.

    If they enjoy gaming on the equivalent a toaster with crippled controls who am I to stop them.

    PC Master Race....now and forever...

    ;)


    ConstantineMerusLinifScotSensai

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    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

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  • ConstantineMerusConstantineMerus Member EpicPosts: 3,338
    Kyleran said:
    Scot said:
    I wanted to bring up the idea of exclusivity and good deals limiting our gaming freedom. We all play on only certain platforms and buy games from certain sources, even being on Steam means I have no time for Epic apart from freebies.

    These subscriptions tie you to the company involved even more, after all if you only play one game you are not getting your monies worth. So you play two or three, or four. It makes financial sense but ties you in to one menu, in other words you get nothing for free which is what the subscription may be making you think you are getting.
    You know Scot, people actually like their consoles. ;) 


    Is OK, I've accepted that other people are doing it wrong.

    If they enjoy gaming on the equivalent a toaster with crippled controls who am I to stop them.

    PC Master Race....now and forever...

    ;)


    Kneel down peasants, we are in presence of royalty! I'm sorry Master Kyleran, when I was uttering that garbage, I didn't mean you. Please, forgive me Sire! 
    LinifKyleran
    Constantine, The Console Poster

    • "One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
  • ChildoftheShadowsChildoftheShadows Member EpicPosts: 2,193
    Scot said:
    Murmaider said:
    If they could allow for streaming and playing games from phones, i think it would do really well.

    A lot of security guards at my work got Xbox game pass just for that feature.

    I see a lot of them sitting at their desk and playing games on their phone.

    I get jealous sometimes. Lol
    I am glad I never worked anywhere where staff thought their working hours should be occupied with games. What confidence in security would you be expected to have if they are watching a gaming screen all the time.
    It's better than them being asleep at the time something happens and expecting them to be responsive. 
    Scot
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    edited December 2021
    Honestly, I'd buy a PS5 if I could find one at normal retail price. (Two actually, my son also wants one)

    No way in hell will I yield to the terrorists selling them for over a grand on Walmart.coms estore.


    ConstantineMerus

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,429
    Scot said:
    I wanted to bring up the idea of exclusivity and good deals limiting our gaming freedom. We all play on only certain platforms and buy games from certain sources, even being on Steam means I have no time for Epic apart from freebies.

    These subscriptions tie you to the company involved even more, after all if you only play one game you are not getting your monies worth. So you play two or three, or four. It makes financial sense but ties you in to one menu, in other words you get nothing for free which is what the subscription may be making you think you are getting.
    You know Scot, people actually like their consoles. ;) 

    I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. Ps5 is my favourite platform for gaming. I pay £35 a year for my sub and I get about £1400 free games and if you are an impulse buyer like me then close to £2000 on exclusive discounts.

    Now there some MMOs that I don't get on my console. And some Xbox exclusives too.

    Tbh, there hasn't been a single title before that I had cared. And if I would want to play Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield then I would buy an Xbox too. Another £350.a lot cheaper than almost any PC component. 

    The annual £35 is for online services. It's a bit more but you can sync sub to Black Friday sale. And you get a lot of contents for free, and there are several cosmetics and add-ons free for Plus members too.

    I got my console for £350 directly from Sony, exclusive invite as a loyal customer. 

    How am I losing money here? This is the cheapest mode of high quality gaming. 

    I prefer a competitive market over a monopoly. If Microsoft hadn't bought Zenimax then Sony wouldn't had bought like 15 more studies to work on several projects and remakes. And without Gamepass, then again Sony didn't have to bring this new and much better subscription service neither.
    I am thinking more of PC subscriptions but consoles make you buy into "our menu" just as much. We only have so much time to game, I have a subscription so I had better make that worth my while. This feeling we have restricts us from casting our gaming net far and wide.
    Kyleran
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Scot said:
    Scot said:
    I wanted to bring up the idea of exclusivity and good deals limiting our gaming freedom. We all play on only certain platforms and buy games from certain sources, even being on Steam means I have no time for Epic apart from freebies.

    These subscriptions tie you to the company involved even more, after all if you only play one game you are not getting your monies worth. So you play two or three, or four. It makes financial sense but ties you in to one menu, in other words you get nothing for free which is what the subscription may be making you think you are getting.
    You know Scot, people actually like their consoles. ;) 

    I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. Ps5 is my favourite platform for gaming. I pay £35 a year for my sub and I get about £1400 free games and if you are an impulse buyer like me then close to £2000 on exclusive discounts.

    Now there some MMOs that I don't get on my console. And some Xbox exclusives too.

    Tbh, there hasn't been a single title before that I had cared. And if I would want to play Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield then I would buy an Xbox too. Another £350.a lot cheaper than almost any PC component. 

    The annual £35 is for online services. It's a bit more but you can sync sub to Black Friday sale. And you get a lot of contents for free, and there are several cosmetics and add-ons free for Plus members too.

    I got my console for £350 directly from Sony, exclusive invite as a loyal customer. 

    How am I losing money here? This is the cheapest mode of high quality gaming. 

    I prefer a competitive market over a monopoly. If Microsoft hadn't bought Zenimax then Sony wouldn't had bought like 15 more studies to work on several projects and remakes. And without Gamepass, then again Sony didn't have to bring this new and much better subscription service neither.
    I am thinking more of PC subscriptions but consoles make you buy into "our menu" just as much. We only have so much time to game, I have a subscription so I had better make that worth my while. This feeling we have restricts us from casting our gaming net far and wide.
    Hence why I play one, and only one MMORPG at a time, and no other games.



    Scot

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177
    edited December 2021
    Kyleran said:
    Scot said:
    Scot said:
    I wanted to bring up the idea of exclusivity and good deals limiting our gaming freedom. We all play on only certain platforms and buy games from certain sources, even being on Steam means I have no time for Epic apart from freebies.

    These subscriptions tie you to the company involved even more, after all if you only play one game you are not getting your monies worth. So you play two or three, or four. It makes financial sense but ties you in to one menu, in other words you get nothing for free which is what the subscription may be making you think you are getting.
    You know Scot, people actually like their consoles. ;) 

    I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. Ps5 is my favourite platform for gaming. I pay £35 a year for my sub and I get about £1400 free games and if you are an impulse buyer like me then close to £2000 on exclusive discounts.

    Now there some MMOs that I don't get on my console. And some Xbox exclusives too.

    Tbh, there hasn't been a single title before that I had cared. And if I would want to play Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield then I would buy an Xbox too. Another £350.a lot cheaper than almost any PC component. 

    The annual £35 is for online services. It's a bit more but you can sync sub to Black Friday sale. And you get a lot of contents for free, and there are several cosmetics and add-ons free for Plus members too.

    I got my console for £350 directly from Sony, exclusive invite as a loyal customer. 

    How am I losing money here? This is the cheapest mode of high quality gaming. 

    I prefer a competitive market over a monopoly. If Microsoft hadn't bought Zenimax then Sony wouldn't had bought like 15 more studies to work on several projects and remakes. And without Gamepass, then again Sony didn't have to bring this new and much better subscription service neither.
    I am thinking more of PC subscriptions but consoles make you buy into "our menu" just as much. We only have so much time to game, I have a subscription so I had better make that worth my while. This feeling we have restricts us from casting our gaming net far and wide.
    Hence why I play one, and only one MMORPG at a time, and no other games.



    Me too I cannot play more than one. I have tried and found I didn't enjoy either because I kept feeling I was missing out on the other while playing one. I guess I am too committed to an MMORPG when I play it and I want to experience everything slowly and playing two just destroys that immersion.
    KyleranScot

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    edited December 2021
    I currently have in my home:

    1 PS5
    2 PS4
    1 XBox Series X
    1 Xbox One
    2 Nintendo Switches
    1 Nintendo Wii U
    1 Nintendo Wii
    2 Desktop Gaming PCs (with 3 new ones waiting to be wrapped up for Christmas)
    1 Laptop gaming PC
    1 non-gaming laptop
    1 Macbook Air
    3 Ipads
    2 Ipad Minis

    If the proposed Sony service is actually like the Gamepass (especially if there is some sort of PC connection) I would grab it immediately. The Gamepass Ultimate (for PC) is great because it lets me dabble in games for a day or two and for some reason I do that a lot more than I go and actually play the backlog of Steam games I own.  Maybe its because any game is instantly also available to my friends with no need to convince folks to buy a game to try it.

    I'm the poster child for this service I guess.

    ConstantineMerus

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    edited December 2021
    I currently have in my home:

    1 PS5
    2 PS4
    1 XBox Series X
    1 Xbox One
    2 Nintendo Switches
    1 Nintendo Wii U
    1 Nintendo Wii
    2 Desktop Gaming PCs (with 3 new ones waiting to be wrapped up for Christmas)
    1 Laptop gaming PC
    1 non-gaming laptop
    1 Macbook Air
    3 Ipads
    2 Ipad Minis

    If the proposed Sony service is actually like the Gamepass (especially if there is some sort of PC connection) I would grab it immediately. The Gamepass Ultimate (for PC) is great because it lets me dabble in games for a day or two and for some reason I do that a lot more than I go and actually play the backlog of Steam games I own.  Maybe its because any game is instantly also available to my friends with no need to convince folks to buy a game to try it.

    I'm the poster child for this service I guess.

    Apparently zero wives or children.....
    maskedweaselbcbullyConstantineMeruskitarad

    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited December 2021
    Dragnelus said:
    Won't be worth it with the way Sony fights for its walled garden. They don't want players from other systems playing together. That's part of why Xbox game pass is so popular, they make it easy to play across all platforms, and would even let ps5 and xbsx players play together if it weren't for Sony. 

    Just have no faith in Sony these days. 
    Dunno.. I find it stupid that you can't play for example ark survival with steam players, only Microsoft store players can play it with Xbox players but not other platforms :(
    That’s not true with other games, maybe it’s not a Microsoft problem?

    edit: actually I’m not sure of any games that play on Xbox, PC and Steam PC together. My kids and I play plenty of games together with game pass and steam.

    Are there games that play the 3 ways?

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    laserit said:
    Dragnelus said:
    Won't be worth it with the way Sony fights for its walled garden. They don't want players from other systems playing together. That's part of why Xbox game pass is so popular, they make it easy to play across all platforms, and would even let ps5 and xbsx players play together if it weren't for Sony. 

    Just have no faith in Sony these days. 
    Dunno.. I find it stupid that you can't play for example ark survival with steam players, only Microsoft store players can play it with Xbox players but not other platforms :(
    That’s not true with other games, maybe it’s not a Microsoft problem?

    edit: actually I’m not sure of any games that play on Xbox, PC and Steam PC together. My kids and I play plenty of games together with game pass and steam.

    Are there games that play the 3 ways?

    Rocket league comes to mind. Can't think of anything else. 
    laserit



  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Kyleran said:
    I currently have in my home:

    1 PS5
    2 PS4
    1 XBox Series X
    1 Xbox One
    2 Nintendo Switches
    1 Nintendo Wii U
    1 Nintendo Wii
    2 Desktop Gaming PCs (with 3 new ones waiting to be wrapped up for Christmas)
    1 Laptop gaming PC
    1 non-gaming laptop
    1 Macbook Air
    3 Ipads
    2 Ipad Minis

    If the proposed Sony service is actually like the Gamepass (especially if there is some sort of PC connection) I would grab it immediately. The Gamepass Ultimate (for PC) is great because it lets me dabble in games for a day or two and for some reason I do that a lot more than I go and actually play the backlog of Steam games I own.  Maybe its because any game is instantly also available to my friends with no need to convince folks to buy a game to try it.

    I'm the poster child for this service I guess.

    Apparently zero wives or children.....
    One wife and 3 kids... that's how I explain the need...
    Kyleran

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

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    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

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  • mklinicmklinic Member RarePosts: 2,014
    laserit said:
    That’s not true with other games, maybe it’s not a Microsoft problem?

    edit: actually I’m not sure of any games that play on Xbox, PC and Steam PC together. My kids and I play plenty of games together with game pass and steam.

    Are there games that play the 3 ways?

    I believe No Man's Sky plays across all platforms that it's available on if that's the sort of example you're asking for.

    From mid-2020: https://www.nomanssky.com/2020/06/introducing-crossplay-for-no-mans-sky/

    laserit

    -mklinic

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    Do something wrong, no one forgets"
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