I'm cautiously optimistic for the second season. But, it will be hard for it to live up to the expectations that are now placed on it. I don't know if the story was written to have multiple seasons or if they are just scrambling to get another one out because of the success of the first. We all may end up wishing they just hadn't.
It also hasn't given me any hype for the upcoming MMO. Different teams and different mediums. I don't think the quality of the show is any indication of the quality we can expect from the MMO.
Same here. I am "cautiously optimistic" for season two as many things can "change" between now and then
The MMO just doesn't "hype me" much as well. I do have some interest, but not much excitement.
Arcane surprised the snot out of me because instead of yet another "the message" type show, movie, or comic it is based on good writing. Characters have so much more depth than just their skin color, sexuality, or gender. What a breath of fresh air
Sad if you think about it. Pretty much everything is corrupted now.
Everything's always sorta 'corrupted'. If you didn't see that before, maybe it's because you were more in sync with the previous versions.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Just binge watched it, and wow. I really do look forward to more games in the universe, because it is utterly wasted on some PvP games and small projects.
(Also, how about bringing my boy TF into season 2?)
Just binge watched it, and wow. I really do look forward to more games in the universe, because it is utterly wasted on some PvP games and small projects.
(Also, how about bringing my boy TF into season 2?)
Sad if you think about it. Pretty much everything is corrupted now.
Everything's always sorta 'corrupted'. If you didn't see that before, maybe it's because you were more in sync with the previous versions.
if your implying that it isn't getting worse at an exponential rate, you are wrong.
You just didn't see it as easily before. And the idea that things are increasing is often based on that.
On Topic: I certainly would never have thought LoL had any backstory worth mentioning without taking a look at an episode. And really, the animation in a trailer was what nudged me to the first look.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Sad if you think about it. Pretty much everything is corrupted now.
Everything's always sorta 'corrupted'. If you didn't see that before, maybe it's because you were more in sync with the previous versions.
if your implying that it isn't getting worse at an exponential rate, you are wrong.
You just didn't see it as easily before. And the idea that things are increasing is often based on that.
On Topic: I certainly would never have thought LoL had any backstory worth mentioning without taking a look at an episode. And really, the animation in a trailer was what nudged me to the first look.
Can we have one thread without the "keep politics out of everything" people? Even when a show isn't political, you whackos make it about how much you hate the woke. Do some introspection, and realize that you are the one obsessed with politics.
On Topic: I certainly would never have thought LoL had any backstory worth mentioning without taking a look at an episode. And really, the animation in a trailer was what nudged me to the first look.
Same here! I had no interest in this until a YouTube channel I follow (Knight's Watch/Shadiversity) had a "review" that was full of praise. League of Legends? Really? I had zero interest in watching an episodic show about the game
My apologies for bringing in the "woke discussion"
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
Can we have one thread without the "keep politics out of everything" people? Even when a show isn't political, you whackos make it about how much you hate the woke. Do some introspection, and realize that you are the one obsessed with politics.
Not that I am a fan of the new wave of politics. But I keep asking the same people that how they loved playing games that invaded a brown country and never thought there was anything political about it.
There were always people with agendas and there were always people who wanted to cancel something. Welcome to fucking humanity.
Constantine, The Console Poster
"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
Can we have one thread without the "keep politics out of everything" people? Even when a show isn't political, you whackos make it about how much you hate the woke. Do some introspection, and realize that you are the one obsessed with politics.
Not that I am a fan of the new wave of politics. But I keep asking the same people that how they loved playing games that invaded a brown country and never thought there was anything political about it.
There were always people with agendas and there were always people who wanted to cancel something. Welcome to fucking humanity.
Because "keep politics out of gaming" is a disingenuous conversation. It's specifically outrage against "politics I don't like." It's people who have happily been engaging in far right Murican military power fantasies for decades getting angry when the other side of the spectrum also wants to influence art.
Can we have one thread without the "keep politics out of everything" people? Even when a show isn't political, you whackos make it about how much you hate the woke. Do some introspection, and realize that you are the one obsessed with politics.
Al admitted himself that part of what made it good is that it lacked all those things. Its not political at all and I agree that you cant have good shows or games or whatever if your constantly pushing agendas. It destroys and devalues everything it touches.
I imagine in the future the key to having a good show is just leave out the agenda bullshit. Maybe it will burn itself out.
Can we have one thread without the "keep politics out of everything" people? Even when a show isn't political, you whackos make it about how much you hate the woke. Do some introspection, and realize that you are the one obsessed with politics.
Al admitted himself that part of what made it good is that it lacked all those things. Its not political at all and I agree that you cant have good shows or games or whatever if your constantly pushing agendas. It destroys and devalues everything it touches.
I imagine in the future the key to having a good show is just leave out the agenda bullshit. Maybe it will burn itself out.
Art is a medium. You are always trying to say something with your art. We can even debate Tetris.
It really depends on how you do it.
There are games and shows that are lazy. They just want to be part of the trend, but they don't do anything smart. They do their own stuff, and just drop something like a commercial, BTW, we endorse this agenda because we know you do and we are after your dollars so please like us. That's just lame no matter what belief is getting promoted.
Constantine, The Console Poster
"One of the most difficult tasks men can perform, however much others may despise it, is the invention of good games and it cannot be done by men out of touch with their instinctive selves." - Carl Jung
Can we have one thread without the "keep politics out of everything" people? Even when a show isn't political, you whackos make it about how much you hate the woke. Do some introspection, and realize that you are the one obsessed with politics.
Al admitted himself that part of what made it good is that it lacked all those things. Its not political at all and I agree that you cant have good shows or games or whatever if your constantly pushing agendas. It destroys and devalues everything it touches.
I imagine in the future the key to having a good show is just leave out the agenda bullshit. Maybe it will burn itself out.
It has always existed and it will never "burn itself out."
And some has always been and will always be ham-fisted propaganda.
You can forgive teens and slower young adults for saying something about it when they first realize that this is so, but adults doing it and obsessing about it in a captain obvious kind of way is silly and tiresome especially when they waste everyone's time by derailing topics and pushing an opposing agenda whenever they detect an agenda not aligned with their own politics.
All artistic expression has conscious or subconscious agendas. What separates the good art from the trash is the presentation and subtlety of telling a story well enough that whatever message the artist is conveying is unobtrusive and just part of an enjoyable experience.
Oh and BTW, there ARE videos about the politics of the LOL universe and Arcane as well as Riot's own politics despite their trendy claims of not being political at all... like this one (don't watch if you want to remain oblivious to their political messages ):
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
my feeling is this: most people dont necessarily want the overt messaging in their products. They know its going to hurt them. Unfortunately they require money to make these projects go and money always has strings attached, usually in the form of the insane woke agenda.
otherwise i dont think we would see it at all because there is no real demand for it.
Can we have one thread without the "keep politics out of everything" people? Even when a show isn't political, you whackos make it about how much you hate the woke. Do some introspection, and realize that you are the one obsessed with politics.
Al admitted himself that part of what made it good is that it lacked all those things. Its not political at all and I agree that you cant have good shows or games or whatever if your constantly pushing agendas. It destroys and devalues everything it touches.
I imagine in the future the key to having a good show is just leave out the agenda bullshit. Maybe it will burn itself out.
It has always existed and it will never "burn itself out."
And some has always been and will always be ham-fisted propaganda.
You can forgive teens and slower young adults for saying something about it when they first realize that this is so, but adults doing it and obsessing about it in a captain obvious kind of way is silly and tiresome especially when they waste everyone's time by derailing topics and pushing an opposing agenda whenever they detect an agenda not aligned with their own politics.
All artistic expression has conscious or subconscious agendas. What separates the good art from the trash is the presentation and subtlety of telling a story well enough that whatever message the artist is conveying is unobtrusive and just part of an enjoyable experience.
Oh and BTW, there ARE videos about the politics of the LOL universe and Arcane as well as Riot's own politics despite their trendy claims of not being political at all... like this one (don't watch if you want to remain oblivious to their political messages ):
thanks for that.
There is a difference in putting in good/gritty storytelling (in arcane) and putting in an illegal border crossing from Mexico in a terminator movie.
i mean the first thing in the show showed the elite as a bunch of killers on the bridge and i didn't get the impression that the system was somehow ok. It was corrupt to the core top or bottom.
Im not familiar with the other sources of lore. I don't think his expectations translated very well to the show imo.
Messaging is everywhere. "Politics" is when you try to "change something", be it a culture, a right or wrong, or attempts to normalize what is not normal. Kicking babies is a message. Saying it's normal and right is political, trying to change a culture.
Because of what I'm seeing in the entertainment industry as a whole, that was why I was so surprised by Arcane. Not one shallow character exists in the show. OK, there are a couple. I even empathized with Silco for goodness sake! I cried at the end of episode 3! My opinion of Mel changed as soon as her mother showed up. Characters with depth.
Is Vi a lesbian or bi-sexual? I certainly don't care because Violet is so much MORE then her sexuality. Is Jinx crazy? You better believe it, but she is so well written I understand her. What motivates her. I empathize with her. Does it matter what color skin Ekko has? He is so much more than his skin color. He's taking Vander's place as a leader. Also, I don't believe there is a continent in League of Legends called "Africa." Or Asia, if one to make that connection for Caitlyn.
There are "strong women (girls)" throughout the show. There are also strong men/boys. There are also manipulative and self-centered characters of both sexes. Women don't go around "saving the world" all by themselves. Neither do men. There is great conflict to deal with without some character's "identity" getting in the way.
I pity people who see the world in such a shallow fashion, especially in the entertainment industry. It's why I have so little hope for TV and Movies, book adaptations (look to Amazon's Lord of the Rings mutilation), and video games with "story."
I want to escape these concepts and swing swords, use magic, and slay dragons. I want to escape to space and fly in 3 dimensions shooting evil aliens or pirates. Don't bring "Earth Problems" with your "art." It's why Arcane surprised me so much. I was able to escape to Piltover (I thought it was "Builtover" for the longest time!) and Zahn for an hour each show. I wish others felt the same...
It all boils down to this: Make whatever art you want. I am not "forced" to give you my money or attention. I don't "owe anyone" anything. Participation trophies didn't exist when I was growing up, they certainly do NOT exist for me today. If companies want MY money (so much of it I tell ya!), they best produce what I want to spend it on. Arcane did just that
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse. - FARGIN_WAR
NGL, I tend to veer away from Movies/Shows based on games. Maybe it was one too many Dungeon and Dragons Movies/TV Shows, maybe it was just a long line of failed ventures.
Maybe it was the improvements in games and game lore, where the adverts and cutscenes for WoW were better than the big budget WoW Movie.. I have no idea where my bitterness on this comes from.
But it's been a lot of long years where I have just stopped getting excited for things like movies based on games.
NGL tho, I am a little excited for a LoL MMO.. and reading some of the posts here, I am now inclined to check out this show.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
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If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
(Also, how about bringing my boy TF into season 2?)
https://www.cartoonbrew.com/studios/the-secret-to-arcane-studio-fortiches-success-its-owned-by-artists-211970.html
Second season will probably be at least 3 years from now I think. Loved this.
On Topic: I certainly would never have thought LoL had any backstory worth mentioning without taking a look at an episode. And really, the animation in a trailer was what nudged me to the first look.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
There were always people with agendas and there were always people who wanted to cancel something. Welcome to fucking humanity.
I imagine in the future the key to having a good show is just leave out the agenda bullshit. Maybe it will burn itself out.
It really depends on how you do it.
There are games and shows that are lazy. They just want to be part of the trend, but they don't do anything smart. They do their own stuff, and just drop something like a commercial, BTW, we endorse this agenda because we know you do and we are after your dollars so please like us. That's just lame no matter what belief is getting promoted.
And some has always been and will always be ham-fisted propaganda.
You can forgive teens and slower young adults for saying something about it when they first realize that this is so, but adults doing it and obsessing about it in a captain obvious kind of way is silly and tiresome especially when they waste everyone's time by derailing topics and pushing an opposing agenda whenever they detect an agenda not aligned with their own politics.
All artistic expression has conscious or subconscious agendas. What separates the good art from the trash is the presentation and subtlety of telling a story well enough that whatever message the artist is conveying is unobtrusive and just part of an enjoyable experience.
Oh and BTW, there ARE videos about the politics of the LOL universe and Arcane as well as Riot's own politics despite their trendy claims of not being political at all... like this one (don't watch if you want to remain oblivious to their political messages
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
otherwise i dont think we would see it at all because there is no real demand for it.
Iselin said:
thanks for that.
There is a difference in putting in good/gritty storytelling (in arcane) and putting in an illegal border crossing from Mexico in a terminator movie.
i mean the first thing in the show showed the elite as a bunch of killers on the bridge and i didn't get the impression that the system was somehow ok. It was corrupt to the core top or bottom.
Im not familiar with the other sources of lore. I don't think his expectations translated very well to the show imo.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
Maybe it was the improvements in games and game lore, where the adverts and cutscenes for WoW were better than the big budget WoW Movie.. I have no idea where my bitterness on this comes from.
But it's been a lot of long years where I have just stopped getting excited for things like movies based on games.
NGL tho, I am a little excited for a LoL MMO.. and reading some of the posts here, I am now inclined to check out this show.