Square Enix President Talks 2022, The Metaverse, and Blockchain - Acknowledges Player Hesitancy | MM

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Square Enix President Talks 2022, The Metaverse, and Blockchain - Acknowledges Player Hesitancy | MMORPG.com

Square Enix President Yosuke Matsuda took to the Square Enix Holdings website with his New Year's Letter, which covers a number of different topics that the company aims to focus on throughout 2022. While the vast majority of the letter revolved around the influence of blockchain games, NFT and the metaverse, Matsuda also spoke of Square Enix' investment into artificial intelligence and cloud technologies and how they intend to leverage all emerging tech in the future.

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LackingMMO

Look I like SE. I personally enjoy most of their games. The problem I see with this is the same thing I see with dlc, loot boxes, early access, kickstarter. Everything starts out as a "for certain areas" type of approach but soon we realize that just means, we will find a way to implement this in all our games. I don't want to see where this goes in the next year or two.

bcbully

Exciting time ahead. 

Scot

"Matsuda coins this as his definition of decentralized gaming – a space where players generate experiences, earn and spend monetized tokens, and create an entire ecosystem within the worlds they inhabit."

Where then is the gaming in decentralised gaming? Where is the fun?

"So, for those that were worried that Square Enix might completely turn their backs on traditional gaming, don’t worry! There may be room in this industry for blockchain and traditional games to coexist peacefully."

No Steve, whatever any studio announces on this we know P2E will not peacefully co-exist with other financial models. Just like F2P and subscription never coexisted, games made the traditional way will convert or die.

P2E poses an existential question to gaming, when you are earning you are not gaming, it will distort the whole ethos of the hobby. There are questions that range from 'will most players make money or only a minority', to what the effect of potentially millions of people joining our games who only 'play to make money' will have on gaming.

Quizzical

"5G wireless technology has expanded substantially in 2021, and it intends to continue throughout 2022."

I'm not sure what you meant there, but I'm pretty sure that that isn't it. Something as abstract as "5G wireless technology" is incapable of having its own intent. Even if you were to believe that 5G phones or base stations are now self-aware, they still wouldn't have a collective intent.

Scot

Quizzical said:

"5G wireless technology has expanded substantially in 2021, and it intends to continue throughout 2022."



I'm not sure what you meant there, but I'm pretty sure that that isn't it. Something as abstract as "5G wireless technology" is incapable of having its own intent. Even if you were to believe that 5G phones or base stations are now self-aware, they still wouldn't have a collective intent.

Where's John Conner when we need him?

Talmien

Matsuda explains that he believes blockchain games and tokenomics will eventually lead to self-sustaining game growth, which will be compounded by ongoing user-generated content that would inherently be incentivized just by playing these kinds of games.

Sounds to me Square Enix is starting to feel they're paying their game developers too much, and would rather contract out their work to players for less than minimum wage rates. I'm sure that will work out wonderfully for their games.

bcbully

Talmien said:

Matsuda explains that he believes blockchain games and tokenomics will eventually lead to self-sustaining game growth, which will be compounded by ongoing user-generated content that would inherently be incentivized just by playing these kinds of games.

Sounds to me Square Enix is starting to feel they're paying their game developers too much, and would rather contract out their work to players for less than minimum wage rates. I'm sure that will work out wonderfully for their games.

Man that is an awesome quote, a quote thaat many here have wished for in many different threads. This was the dream of EQ Landmark.


wait, you heard we need to pay studios less?

Talmien

bcbully said:

Talmien said:

Matsuda explains that he believes blockchain games and tokenomics will eventually lead to self-sustaining game growth, which will be compounded by ongoing user-generated content that would inherently be incentivized just by playing these kinds of games.

Sounds to me Square Enix is starting to feel they're paying their game developers too much, and would rather contract out their work to players for less than minimum wage rates. I'm sure that will work out wonderfully for their games.

Man that is an awesome quote, a quote thaat many here have wished for in many different threads. This was the dream of EQ Landmark.


wait, you heard we need to pay studios less?

  Nope, I must have missed that news bulletin. I have always felt comfortable handing over my $60 to play a new game. Because you know, for anyone who has ever tried, making a game is incredibly difficult. It takes a lot of hard work, skill, and knowledge even to create one that sucks. I certainly don't trust players who want to "play" at being developers to produce anything of any value. Maybe that's part of the reason EQ Landmark failed? They were too focused on trying to figure out how to turn players into developers instead of actually developing a game themselves. 

StevenWeber

Scot said:

"Matsuda coins this as his definition of decentralized gaming – a space where players generate experiences, earn and spend monetized tokens, and create an entire ecosystem within the worlds they inhabit."

Where then is the gaming in decentralised gaming? Where is the fun?

"So, for those that were worried that Square Enix might completely turn their backs on traditional gaming, don’t worry! There may be room in this industry for blockchain and traditional games to coexist peacefully."

No Steve, whatever any studio announces on this we know P2E will not peacefully co-exist with other financial models. Just like F2P and subscription never coexisted, games made the traditional way will convert or die.

P2E poses an existential question to gaming, when you are earning you are not gaming, it will distort the whole ethos of the hobby. There are questions that range from 'will most players make money or only a minority', to what the effect of potentially millions of people joining our games who only 'play to make money' will have on gaming.

I love the opinions that our community provides. As you guys likely already know, my limited feature of MMONFT on the MMORPG.com YouTube is still ongoing, and the fears, questions and perspectives of our community are like a compass, directing me to the heart of these issues related to blockchain. 

Quizzical said:

"5G wireless technology has expanded substantially in 2021, and it intends to continue throughout 2022."

I'm not sure what you meant there, but I'm pretty sure that that isn't it. Something as abstract as "5G wireless technology" is incapable of having its own intent. Even if you were to believe that 5G phones or base stations are now self-aware, they still wouldn't have a collective intent.

This was in response to Matsuda's comment regarding the expansion of 5G infrastructurally. I can happily edit the article to clarify that point. Thanks for the feedback! 

laserit

bcbully said:

Exciting time ahead. 

Your are more correct than you might want to be.

Exciting isn’t always a good thing .

bcbully

laserit said:

bcbully said:

Exciting time ahead. 

Your are more correct than you might want to be.

Exciting isn’t always a good thing .

Your are more correct than you might want to be.

bcbully

StevenWeber said:

Scot said:

"Matsuda coins this as his definition of decentralized gaming – a space where players generate experiences, earn and spend monetized tokens, and create an entire ecosystem within the worlds they inhabit."

Where then is the gaming in decentralised gaming? Where is the fun?

"So, for those that were worried that Square Enix might completely turn their backs on traditional gaming, don’t worry! There may be room in this industry for blockchain and traditional games to coexist peacefully."

No Steve, whatever any studio announces on this we know P2E will not peacefully co-exist with other financial models. Just like F2P and subscription never coexisted, games made the traditional way will convert or die.

P2E poses an existential question to gaming, when you are earning you are not gaming, it will distort the whole ethos of the hobby. There are questions that range from 'will most players make money or only a minority', to what the effect of potentially millions of people joining our games who only 'play to make money' will have on gaming.

I love the opinions that our community provides. As you guys likely already know, my limited feature of MMONFT on the MMORPG.com YouTube is still ongoing, and the fears, questions and perspectives of our community are like a compass, directing me to the heart of these issues related to blockchain. 

Quizzical said:

"5G wireless technology has expanded substantially in 2021, and it intends to continue throughout 2022."

I'm not sure what you meant there, but I'm pretty sure that that isn't it. Something as abstract as "5G wireless technology" is incapable of having its own intent. Even if you were to believe that 5G phones or base stations are now self-aware, they still wouldn't have a collective intent.

This was in response to Matsuda's comment regarding the expansion of 5G infrastructurally. I can happily edit the article to clarify that point. Thanks for the feedback! 

Start the begining. What is a blockchain. What are NFTs. How to create a wallet. ect. Sticky it. Dispell some of the mystery.

Educating your user base will help your advertisers tremedously. 

Quizzical

StevenWeber said:

Quizzical said:

"5G wireless technology has expanded substantially in 2021, and it intends to continue throughout 2022."

I'm not sure what you meant there, but I'm pretty sure that that isn't it. Something as abstract as "5G wireless technology" is incapable of having its own intent. Even if you were to believe that 5G phones or base stations are now self-aware, they still wouldn't have a collective intent.

This was in response to Matsuda's comment regarding the expansion of 5G infrastructurally. I can happily edit the article to clarify that point. Thanks for the feedback! 

The edited version makes a lot more sense.  And besides, it was an on-topic effort at making this not be just another NFT thread.

TheDalaiBomba

Doesn't surprise me.  The absolute worst part of Marvel's Avengers is having to pay for individual hero animations.  It's absolutely atrocious to sell individual takedown animations in a cash shop like that in a game about feeling and looking like a badass Avenger taking on world threats.

This is the type of monetization that jarringly subtracts from a game.  It's so ham-fisted it almost aches physically as you realize every single hero has their own set of said animations and you get exactly one animation for each with the purchase of the base game.  Without buying the extra animations, your favorite heroes do the *exact same takedown every single time.*

Neoyoshi

This whole topic is basically investor porn, it's all money money money.

The business people in the world do not have a single clue what gamers actually want; we may as well be guinea pigs or petri dishes to them.

Astropuyo

Oh man. I mean i don't really care because I sell my stuff in games regardless of rules.

No matter what folks like me win.

Now to take that sweet sweet 2 dollars youtube income and turn it into something big!


Anyone want to buy a enterprise in a certain blockchain mmo? Lol I got two...fuck man nft's and stuff have been around forever. We just didn't have a term for it.

You'll never actually own a nft though. That's almost counter to why they were made.

Which was of course to sell sprite work for like 6,000 buy in.

saker

Necrotic stage "capitalism", it just needs to die, or be killed. The last thing anyone needs is the god(s) forsaken zuckerberg-creature owning the next internet, along with his dream of zucker-bucks replacing the "economy" it's hard to see a more obvious straight path to the worst of cyberpunk dystopia hells.

Utinni

bruh he put "play to have fun" in quotes... what the...

Slapshot1188

Is there where I talk about the TAXES or is that on the next page?

Celcius

This is one of those rare occurrences where even the MMORPG.com forums can hate something together.

BruceYee

Astropuyo said:

Oh man. I mean i don't really care because I sell my stuff in games regardless of rules.



No matter what folks like me win.



Now to take that sweet sweet 2 dollars youtube income and turn it into something big!





Anyone want to buy a enterprise in a certain blockchain mmo? Lol I got two...fuck man nft's and stuff have been around forever. We just didn't have a term for it.



You'll never actually own a nft though. That's almost counter to why they were made.



Which was of course to sell sprite work for like 6,000 buy in.

If we're going to play pretend ownership isn't it better to go with the option where the seller acknowledges our purchase and lets us re-sell vs having to sign a ToS that forfeits the rights to what we just "bought" + all our future "purchases"?

k61977

I will just say it as I have in other forums. You add this to your games and I will not buy or play them. No need for discussion or debate.

lordsmok

it's not Hesitancy WE DONT WANT THAT, NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS!

Iselin

Such a nice, sanitized way to say "we're going all in on pay to win but you won't give us any lip aout it becasue we won't be the only ones selling powerdul game items, you will too!"

BruceYee

Torval said:

BruceYee said:

If we're going to play pretend ownership isn't it better to go with the option where the seller acknowledges our purchase and lets us re-sell vs having to sign a ToS that forfeits the rights to what we just "bought" + all our future "purchases"?

Wait, what do you think you actually own? You own the NFT which is an immutable link to a hash of a file (image, media, text, etc). You own that particular file hash and can then sell or trade it.

Let's use a graphic image as an example. You do not own the copyright. You don't own the right to distribute or use that image any way you see fit. You own the image yourself and can view it or use it personally but you may not be licensed to use in public fora or anywhere were the copyright would be violated. You may not copy or distribute it or necessarily display it for mass consumption.

Let's use a music MP3 as an example. You own that copy of the song. You can listen to it personally, but you may not play it publicly, copy, or distribute it in any way.

There are no laws about rights for NFT holders. There are strong copyright and trademark laws and you can be sure major stakeholders aren't going to let go of that.

One of the big NFT scams right now that is pissing off the art community are crypto-bros that create NFTs of others work without their permission and then sell the NFT. They're stealing art and selling it to rubes and the unscrupulous.

https://drawism.com/nft-art-theft-protect-your-work-right-now/

https://www.fxempire.com/news/article/opensea-steps-in-after-nft-art-theft-raising-questions-about-decentralization-853408

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/art-theft-nfts

https://www.coindailynews.io/2021/12/19/art-theft-an-emerging-issue-on-nft-platforms-like-opensea-is-there-a-solution-in-sight/

https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2021/03/11/people-keep-tokenizing-other-users-art-heres-how-artists-can-protect-their-work/

"Wait, what do you think you actually own? You own the NFT which is an immutable link to a hash of a file (image, media, text, etc). You own that particular file hash and can then sell or trade it."

People are trying to be tricky today... I wrote "pretend ownership". Crypto "pretend ownership" is still 100% more than legacy Gaas lets us do because legacy Gaas make us VOID any control of our purchase in order to USE the item we give them money for.. We're unable to re-sell anything we bought or earned in legacy Gaas games...

"Let's use a music MP3 as an example. You own that copy of the song. You can listen to it personally, but you may not play it publicly, copy, or distribute it in any way."

Last I checked you can't re-sell an MP3 you purchased and you can't exactly earn an MP3 so can we please discuss things that are remotely similar for the sake of good conversation?

"One of the big NFT scams right now that is pissing off the art community are crypto-bros that create NFTs of others work without their permission and then sell the NFT. They're stealing art and selling it to rubes and the unscrupulous."

Explain to me why what you wrote above + those links you provided has anything to do with crypto gaming besides the fact that there will probably be some fraud and thievery like in every other part of life..

Clearly some of the most vocal against this topic have not experienced it for themselves and are reaching for anything + everything to prevent others from discovering it.

There's nothing to fear folks... There are millions of people at this very moment playing p2e/nft/crypto games... They are available on the Google/Apple stores... Big bois Ubisoft, EA & SE said it's the future... I play daily to have fun/not earn money and I'm still alive... etc etc