I have really enjoyed watching the Steam ratings dwindle from Overwhelmingly Positive (pre-launch) down to Mixed, so far, in just a day.
That's because "kids" are QQing... because of Ques. Literally that's 90% the reason.
You have more faith in reading paid reviews this days then a bunch of kids crying that the FREE game they are playing ( or trying to ) has a que in the first week of launch.
It matter not. It will be back to above 7.0.
What matters, is people hating on a successful game. Based on your comment, that's the definition of hate. You are the problem. Not the game, not the ones liking it.
You are being too dismissive, that rating of Mixed on steam is telling us more than peoples discontent at queues. You only have to look at their comments to see that. No review is trustworthy, we have to take them all in the round to get a decent picture of what is going on. But just like I never paid too much attention to the Overwhelmingly Positive, we shouldn't pay too much attention to Mixed.
Players need to think about what LA is like as a game and if that sort of gameplay is what they like, even better if you have played something similar. That's your surest guide.
It's not wildly popular...it's free so lots of people are checking it out. Look at the reviews going downhill fast. It's not much of a MMO at all. It's linear,dull, too easy, and the na version is censored and has changed a particular race population to adhere to a lie. See for your self....play the ru version to see the real thing the na version is a woke cash grab
How to react to this? Complete right on some parts, followed by utter nonsense.
It is like when someone says "politicians and institutions are using covid as a power grab" but then follows up with "and they are a secret society of reptilians whp want to enslave humanity"
Oh yes I see many things very wrong especially the gear advancement which has a high probability of failure. This is always the point I bid farewell to a game. I am never going to spend money on an item to improve my chances, I will only try for as long as the success rate is 75%, beyond that with the horrible relationship I have with Lady Luck I may as well flush my money down the toilet.
In the old days when we used to sit in Guk hoping for the drop and then hoping for the lucky roll it also involved an element of chance but there wasn't this extra twist of the screw where you can buy items from the cash shop to improve your roll.
So my dear friends this game is just a temporary stop for me and I will leave when the fun stops . For now it is still a lot of fun.
It does a great job of mixing in cinematic story scenes in a completely natural way through the use of its camera.
It doesn't do anything special outside of those things, though. It's a good game, not a ground-breaking one. Fans of PoE or Diablo are going to enjoy it and treat it as simply an always online ARPG. Which is fine: the essence of an ARPG is the combat and loot, which this game does well.
It won't be a long-term game for me or get me to spend any more, but it's worth the $25.
Lost Ark just /slap on the industry, especially on those who were saying that MMO genre is dead.
This is a clear message to all the companies, that if you are doing a good job developing a MMO, you will be rewarded by the community. Else, well .. see WoW and many others who did a terrible job creating and launching a MMO.
I did a post on Steam before Headstart and Launch, and I was right about the numbers. I said 500k+ Headstart and 1mil + on the Launch Day. It was obviously from my point of view.
Now, bring Lancer, Amazon, so I can spend my Pass Ticket, as Lancer is one of the greatest class in Lost Ark.
WoW did a terrible job ? Hum... yeah, whatever.
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It's Linear is probably the most uninformed comment I've seen. Yes the early portion of the game is pretty linear, but once you get your ship you're introduced to the other 90% of the game its very open. THen when you hit vern there are pretty much no more walls aside from gear. Literally the world is your oyster at that point.
It's Linear is probably the most uninformed comment I've seen. Yes the early portion of the game is pretty linear, but once you get your ship you're introduced to the other 90% of the game its very open. THen when you hit vern there are pretty much no more walls aside from gear. Literally the world is your oyster at that point.
Well, I would be one of the uniformed as so far as I've seen at level 29 it has been extremely linear, perhaps it should come with a disclaimer up front on when players can expect gameplay to open up?
Actually, having read posts here I am aware there's a promise of better but I've seen comments from folks who quit seeing the game didn't grab them for this and other reasons, which is fair I think.
I'm not usually going to devote long amounts of time to get to where the "real" game is...this time is a rare exception.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Well, I would be one of the uniformed as so far as I've seen at level 29 it has been extremely linear, perhaps it should come with a disclaimer up front on when players can expect gameplay to open up?
Actually, having read posts here I am aware there's a promise of better but I've seen comments from folks who quit seeing the game didn't grab them for this and other reasons, which is fair I think.
I'm not usually going to devote long amounts of time to get to where the "real" game is...this time is a rare exception.
I am really curious and looking forward to reading your impressions of the endgame's structure and whether you will like it, as a former EVE player. It did not click for me up to level 15.
My gut feeling is that those saying that it becomes better at endgame are still primarily themepark players, which may prove that this is indeed a really good game for them but not necessarily for me.
See, the likelihood of me reaching end game is probably pretty good since I'll be trying to get my monies worth for the platinum pack I purchased.
Someone once told me boomers tend to put more value in items we purchase vs those received for free, probably true in my case as few and far between are any F2P games I've enjoyed, and never without spending money in them.
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Well, I would be one of the uniformed as so far as I've seen at level 29 it has been extremely linear, perhaps it should come with a disclaimer up front on when players can expect gameplay to open up?
Actually, having read posts here I am aware there's a promise of better but I've seen comments from folks who quit seeing the game didn't grab them for this and other reasons, which is fair I think.
I'm not usually going to devote long amounts of time to get to where the "real" game is...this time is a rare exception.
I am really curious and looking forward to reading your impressions of the endgame's structure and whether you will like it, as a former EVE player. It did not click for me up to level 15.
My gut feeling is that those saying that it becomes better at endgame are still primarily themepark players, which may prove that this is indeed a really good game for them but not necessarily for me.
See, the likelihood of me reaching end game is probably pretty good since I'll be trying to get my monies worth for the platinum pack I purchased.
Someone once told me boomers tend to put more value in items we purchase vs those received for free, probably true in my case as few and far between are any F2P games I've enjoyed, and never without spending money in them.
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Oh yes I see many things very wrong especially the gear advancement which has a high probability of failure. This is always the point I bid farewell to a game. I am never going to spend money on an item to improve my chances, I will only try for as long as the success rate is 75%, beyond that with the horrible relationship I have with Lady Luck I may as well flush my money down the toilet.
For me the low upgrade chance is not a problem.
Not saying what you wrote is wrong or anything but for me I have played other older KR games before and I am used to them not only having low chances, like sub 50% or 40% at like +8 or+9 on things you up to +15, but they also have a chance or downgrading on fail and at higher + even a chance that the items is destroyed on fail.
This means for me I kinda of have to chuckle when I see peeps complain that something only has a low like 35 or 40% chance like I saw a couple streamers complain about.
This means for mean LA upgrade chance is pretty damn decent as is since there is no chance of a downgrade or destruction of item on a fail.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
It's Linear is probably the most uninformed comment I've seen. Yes the early portion of the game is pretty linear, but once you get your ship you're introduced to the other 90% of the game its very open. THen when you hit vern there are pretty much no more walls aside from gear. Literally the world is your oyster at that point.
Well, I would be one of the uniformed as so far as I've seen at level 29 it has been extremely linear, perhaps it should come with a disclaimer up front on when players can expect gameplay to open up?
Actually, having read posts here I am aware there's a promise of better but I've seen comments from folks who quit seeing the game didn't grab them for this and other reasons, which is fair I think.
I'm not usually going to devote long amounts of time to get to where the "real" game is...this time is a rare exception.
World wise and quest wise while leveling, New World is still a much better game than Lost Ark. The dungeons in Lost Ark are completely awesome though.
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It does a great job of mixing in cinematic story scenes in a completely natural way through the use of its camera.
It doesn't do anything special outside of those things, though. It's a good game, not a ground-breaking one. Fans of PoE or Diablo are going to enjoy it and treat it as simply an always online ARPG. Which is fine: the essence of an ARPG is the combat and loot, which this game does well.
It won't be a long-term game for me or get me to spend any more, but it's worth the $25.
The cinematic story and smooth camera changes are a bit problematic for me. When the animated story resumes, I am essentially watching a non-interactive movie. I'm supposed to be playing a game, and that involves controlling something. Here, I watch, but I'm not providing any input at all.
After this mornings session, I'm beginning to question exactly how well LA does the ARPG thing. The story is pretty good so far, but I can walk (not even bothering to use the horse) and escape all enemies, including bosses. The spawn rates on most mobs are so quick that I can get 3 spawns of critters attacking me, without the possibility of dying. Super easy mode, compared to Path of Exile, Broken Ranks or even the old tried and true Titan Quest. It has the mechanics and interface of an ARPG; I'm beginning to suspect it falls down on the Game part.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
The story is pretty good so far, but I can walk (not even bothering to use the horse) and escape all enemies, including bosses. The spawn rates on most mobs are so quick that I can get 3 spawns of critters attacking me, without the possibility of dying. Super easy mode, compared to Path of Exile, Broken Ranks or even the old tried and true Titan Quest. It has the mechanics and interface of an ARPG; I'm beginning to suspect it falls down on the Game part.
Way I see it is that leveling from 1 to level 50 is like on long tutorial and not very hard. It makes it casual friendly for the main story I would guess.
However from what I saw on from some streamers some of the endgame dungeons are much, much harder.
If you try to leroy jenkins some of the endgame dungeon you are going to hit a wall and hard.
It has mechanics were if one party members fks up its a party wipe period.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
The amount of polish and content for a game that's free is pretty incredible. Combat is pretty great too. A lot of people have been anticipating this game for years and I can see why.
But isn't this our own self-fulfilling prophecy? Streamers and everyone are being told to rush to 50. Don't stop and smell the roses. Rush RUSH RUSH!
So completely new players who have never played the game before are stepping into end game content where it gets much harder and are getting the absolutely $%^& beat out of them.
Random matchmaking with players that do not know their class besides what build they read online but do not understand their skills and the situational requirement some skills have? Where do I NOT sign up?
I watched BIG name streamers wipe and wipe and wipe again for this reason. It was almost comical.
It was like DAOC back in the day - players would sell their max level, tweaked out characters for lots of money. So all the sudden you had a scout in RVR ask - How do I shot my bow again?
Players response "RUN AWAY" just like Brave Sir Robin.
Point is - I am taking my time, loving it, learning my class so hopefully I will be an asset to my guild at endgame and not the other kind of ass.
Yes and no.
I mean there all kinds in life and it's these same people playing games too so stands to reason you will have all kinds in game too.
The streamers I watch always tell their viewers playing like them isn't for everyone and they should play in a manner that they enjoy.
It's the same when the which class is best, their answers is always what ever class you enjoy playing.
I mean no matter what game you can "ruin it" for yourself if can't figure out how and what you like in a game.
I get what you are saying how ever, this game some peeps will rush to 50 have shit engravings and then wonder why they cant get into dungeon/raid groups.
They wont have done any research on the game or their build or how endgame works and not realize when joining a group the person accepting can look at their engraving and jewelry layout etc.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
But isn't this our own self-fulfilling prophecy? Streamers and everyone are being told to rush to 50. Don't stop and smell the roses. Rush RUSH RUSH!
So completely new players who have never played the game before are stepping into end game content where it gets much harder and are getting the absolutely $%^& beat out of them.
Random matchmaking with players that do not know their class besides what build they read online but do not understand their skills and the situational requirement some skills have? Where do I NOT sign up?
I watched BIG name streamers wipe and wipe and wipe again for this reason. It was almost comical.
It was like DAOC back in the day - players would sell their max level, tweaked out characters for lots of money. So all the sudden you had a scout in RVR ask - How do I shot my bow again?
Players response "RUN AWAY" just like Brave Sir Robin.
Point is - I am taking my time, loving it, learning my class so hopefully I will be an asset to my guild at endgame and not the other kind of ass.
Yes and no.
I mean there all kinds in life and it's these same people playing games too so stands to reason you will have all kinds in game too.
The streamers I watch always tell their viewers playing like them isn't for everyone and they should play in a manner that they enjoy.
It's the same when the which class is best, their answers is always what ever class you enjoy playing.
I mean no matter what game you can "ruin it" for yourself if can't figure out how and what you like in a game.
I get what you are saying how ever, this game some peeps will rush to 50 have shit engravings and then wonder why they cant get into dungeon/raid groups.
They wont have done any research on the game or their build or how endgame works and not realize when joining a group the person accepting can look at their engraving and jewelry layout etc.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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I have really enjoyed watching the Steam ratings dwindle from Overwhelmingly Positive (pre-launch) down to Mixed, so far, in just a day.
That's because "kids" are QQing... because of Ques. Literally that's 90% the reason.
That's what people said about New World, too. And then when the queues went away, the game's ratings still kept going down. New World is now at 51% positive ratings in the last 30 days, out of over 4000 reviews.
Yes, yes, that's a different game entirely. But even without queues, the game was a wreck during the closed beta, so I'd bet that plenty of people will find reasons to vote the game negatively after the queues go away.
I have really enjoyed watching the Steam ratings dwindle from Overwhelmingly Positive (pre-launch) down to Mixed, so far, in just a day.
That's because "kids" are QQing... because of Ques. Literally that's 90% the reason.
That's what people said about New World, too. And then when the queues went away, the game's ratings still kept going down. New World is now at 51% positive ratings in the last 30 days, out of over 4000 reviews.
Yes, yes, that's a different game entirely. But even without queues, the game was a wreck during the closed beta, so I'd bet that plenty of people will find reasons to vote the game negatively after the queues go away.
Yeah that's not a fair comparison at all. NW had issues, has issues and will still have some for some times.
LA has been out since 2018 so lets be real here...has no where near the amount of issues NW has, has lots of content and is pretty polished. All these things LA has are thing NW lacks still.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
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You are being too dismissive, that rating of Mixed on steam is telling us more than peoples discontent at queues. You only have to look at their comments to see that. No review is trustworthy, we have to take them all in the round to get a decent picture of what is going on. But just like I never paid too much attention to the Overwhelmingly Positive, we shouldn't pay too much attention to Mixed.
Players need to think about what LA is like as a game and if that sort of gameplay is what they like, even better if you have played something similar. That's your surest guide.
How to react to this? Complete right on some parts, followed by utter nonsense.
It is like when someone says "politicians and institutions are using covid as a power grab" but then follows up with "and they are a secret society of reptilians whp want to enslave humanity"
"I am my connectome" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HA7GwKXfJB0
In the old days when we used to sit in Guk hoping for the drop and then hoping for the lucky roll it also involved an element of chance but there wasn't this extra twist of the screw where you can buy items from the cash shop to improve your roll.
So my dear friends this game is just a temporary stop for me and I will leave when the fun stops . For now it is still a lot of fun.
It does a great job of mixing in cinematic story scenes in a completely natural way through the use of its camera.
It doesn't do anything special outside of those things, though. It's a good game, not a ground-breaking one. Fans of PoE or Diablo are going to enjoy it and treat it as simply an always online ARPG. Which is fine: the essence of an ARPG is the combat and loot, which this game does well.
It won't be a long-term game for me or get me to spend any more, but it's worth the $25.
WoW did a terrible job ?
Hum... yeah, whatever.
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Pre game "game is gonna fail'
half time game launches
Post game numbers drop "Told you"
5 years later......
Game closes "told you"
Actually, having read posts here I am aware there's a promise of better but I've seen comments from folks who quit seeing the game didn't grab them for this and other reasons, which is fair I think.
I'm not usually going to devote long amounts of time to get to where the "real" game is...this time is a rare exception.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Someone once told me boomers tend to put more value in items we purchase vs those received for free, probably true in my case as few and far between are any F2P games I've enjoyed, and never without spending money in them.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
World wise and quest wise while leveling, New World is still a much better game than Lost Ark.
The dungeons in Lost Ark are completely awesome though.
Respect, walk
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Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
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Yes, yes, that's a different game entirely. But even without queues, the game was a wreck during the closed beta, so I'd bet that plenty of people will find reasons to vote the game negatively after the queues go away.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Because Amazon owns Twitch. Do you really think it's a coincidence that Amazon's two games have such incredible player numbers at launch?
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