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I think we need to face facts. NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent. We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.
In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures. Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures. They were the neckbeards. However ne,them, don't be superior. Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.
I don't know how it's gonna turn out. I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope. Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff. I doubt the have too many more major projects left. They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.
It is obvious that MMORPG was paid for this article. No mention of Shourd and the scam that was led by Richard and no mention of Porter's sketchy past.
I'm not sure why Richard doesn't just go into actual real life Real Estate since he likes to try and make money from selling property, rather than trying to sell property in a digital pixel world. I have no more F's to give should anyone fall for another RG pixel property scam again.
I think we need to face facts. NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent. We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.
In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures. Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures. They were the neckbeards. However ne,them, don't be superior. Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.
I don't know how it's gonna turn out. I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope. Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff. I doubt the have too many more major projects left. They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.
I give it a 550. Blockchain is here. Suck it up!
First, the future legality/regulation of crypto is very much in the air. China and the EU have at least suggested that they are going to take an aggressive stance. So while it does seem like the shit ball is going to keep rolling downhill and pick up speed, the end result is far from certain.
Second, "great adventures"? I highly doubt these games are going to have any adventures outside of the gambling component that can already be found in sports book betting and online poker.
Lastly, if it means I don't automatically accept whatever piece of crap that comes out that spends more on voice overs, skins and cash shop items than actual gameplay, I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Ultima generation. And while I know it's trendy to label anyone who disagrees with your enlightened position as hateful, some of us just don't settle for lack of polish, quality and content. Just because there is crap on the table doesn't mean you have to eat it.
I think we need to face facts. NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent. We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.
In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures. Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures. They were the neckbeards. However ne,them, don't be superior. Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.
I don't know how it's gonna turn out. I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope. Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff. I doubt the have too many more major projects left. They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.
I give it a 550. Blockchain is here. Suck it up!
First, the future legality/regulation of crypto is very much in the air. China and the EU have at least suggested that they are going to take an aggressive stance. So while it does seem like the shit ball is going to keep rolling downhill and pick up speed, the end result is far from certain.
You mean china's aggressive stance that they outlawed all other crypto currencies so they could start their own and control the market? Which was in essence the exact opposite of the purpose of crypto currency and the pillar of decentralization that it was built on?
I think we need to face facts. NFTs, digital currency, digital land..... Is here and it is gonna become more and more prevalent. We can hide our heads in the sand, we can rail against the machine, and we can fight for our right to live in the 80s 90s and 10s.
In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures. Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures. They were the neckbeards. However ne,them, don't be superior. Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.
I don't know how it's gonna turn out. I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope. Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff. I doubt the have too many more major projects left. They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.
I give it a 550. Blockchain is here. Suck it up!
This industry suffered a crash before, and it's not immune to doing so again.
High-profile NFT scams, if NFTs continue to grow in the marketplace, seem like a good way to set one off. We've already got predatory pre-launch monetization in place that's resulted in a lot of really poor quality, half-assed games flooding things like Steam. A flood of low quality titles is exactly the powder keg the previous industry crash was sitting on top of in 1983. NFT (combined with hacks and these same poor quality, unfinished games) sounds like a helluva matchstick to me.
I'd prefer my favorite hobby not suffer an industry recession.
It is obvious that MMORPG was paid for this article. No mention of Shourd and the scam that was led by Richard and no mention of Porter's sketchy past.
I'm not sure why Richard doesn't just go into actual real life Real Estate since he likes to try and make money from selling property, rather than trying to sell property in a digital pixel world. I have no more F's to give should anyone fall for another RG pixel property scam again.
Give them credit... no they were not paid. They are clear about putting up a notice when an article is SPONSORED.
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It is obvious that MMORPG was paid for this article. No mention of Shourd and the scam that was led by Richard and no mention of Porter's sketchy past.
I'm not sure why Richard doesn't just go into actual real life Real Estate since he likes to try and make money from selling property, rather than trying to sell property in a digital pixel world. I have no more F's to give should anyone fall for another RG pixel property scam again.
These guys are going after this current generation that is all in on virtual properties.... It's another in a very long line of get rich quick schemes that we have seen in the past decade or so.....So many people now are lured by greed.
Keep buying your WoW mounts, your FFIV skins, your LoL skins, and etc. Try selling them, you can't. Like every project and investment, do some research. The evolution of gaming is player ownership. There is a right and wrong way to go about it and we will see which companies do it right. There is a ton of scams in the space RN. Mixing truth with lies can be the most convincing strategy. Just like Kickstarter, there is good and bad. There has definitely been good kickstarters and there will DEFINITELY be good Block chain games, it will take time though.
Keep buying your WoW mounts, your FFIV skins, your LoL skins, and etc. Try selling them, you can't. Like every project and investment, do some research. The evolution of gaming is player ownership. There is a right and wrong way to go about it and we will see which companies do it right. There is a ton of scams in the space RN. Mixing truth with lies can be the most convincing strategy. Just like Kickstarter, there is good and bad. There has definitely been good kickstarters and there will DEFINITELY be good Block chain games, it will take time though.
Are you one of the many crypto apologists here who keep ruining every single thread with anything related to crypto? Just asking for a friend because it appeared the heavy anti crypto stance around here came as a reaction to all those people and their constant shilling. /s off
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
Game will be ready in 3 years "or so", but of course starts out with what really worked well in SotA, land sales.
Chris Spears is even involved, apparently has lots of spare time despite his "CEO" role in SotA.
This article really should have "SPONSORED" plastered all over it, along with a recap of the shenanigans the last RG lead MMORPG had, including stiffing it's investors without a word.
Sleeping with the enemy? Gamers be the "cat" in this scene.
Please tell me they will have a sub reddit or other public forum....
Unlike mmorpg.com, MassivelyOP showed some intregrity.
"We note here for the record that we were offered a chance to interview Garriott about this new game, but we were told we could not ask about the many outstanding issues and irregularities revolving around Shroud of the Avatar, which are obviously critical when it comes to the credibility of any new Garriott project, so we declined to participate."
I wouldn't be surprised if garriott reconsidered offering them the interview because he read some of their posts on games that feature NFT's. There's no integrity over there about that, they immediately attack any game that features them. At least TRY to seem unbiased when you're presented with new ideas, even if you don't like them, at least if you want to be taken seriously.
MMORPGs and many games are starting to implement NFT's. You don't have to like them or support them and you can hate them as much as you want, but I expect a little more from people reporting on what's happening in the industry. They need to be better than that.
There's absolutely no requirement you need to like, or pretend to like, something to report on it. And they didn't turn down the interview due to the NFT's, theyturned it down due to Garriott's shady ass wanting to dictate a glowing commercial ignoring recent events in his previous venture rather than an actual interview. While mmorpg.com said "Whatever you want, Mr. Garriott! We need clicks!".
Just because you ask a question doesn't mean they have to answer it. They got turned down for a chance for an interview because they threw a tantrum that they wouldn't get answers to whatever nonsense they asked.
Or, they could have done the interview like grown ups and asked relevant questions and asked their nonsense ones too, and ended up with whatever answers they got. Instead they did nothing and got rejected from the interview and in turn had to report on others reports. Lol.
You keep saying they got turned down, when it was Garriott who was turned down. Reading comprehension is fundamental.
Mhmm just like how your last break up was "mutual".
This is semantics, they "couldn't" ask what they wanted to ask so they "couldn't go through with the interview". MmKay. I recall the same thing has happened with them in the past with other developers too.
All that ends up happening is they editorialize their articles without actually getting a comment from the developer. At least I learned something from this article. Even if it is largely a PR piece.
Keep buying your WoW mounts, your FFIV skins, your LoL skins, and etc. Try selling them, you can't. Like every project and investment, do some research. The evolution of gaming is player ownership. There is a right and wrong way to go about it and we will see which companies do it right. There is a ton of scams in the space RN. Mixing truth with lies can be the most convincing strategy. Just like Kickstarter, there is good and bad. There has definitely been good kickstarters and there will DEFINITELY be good Block chain games, it will take time though.
Are you one of the many crypto apologists here who keep ruining every single thread with anything related to crypto? Just asking for a friend because it appeared the heavy anti crypto stance around here came as a reaction to all those people and their constant shilling. /s off
/Cheers, Lahnmir
There is a reason Non financial experts preface their own opinions with "I am not a financial adviser" warnings. Every investor should be doing their own comprehensive research. I would suggest everyone interested in blockchain gaming and play 2 earn, to take it slow and do comprehensive research.
Most people who are anti block chain gaming don't do any research about the economic model for each game. Very few games put the minting process into player hands. For me, the biggest flag is when the company is the entity which mints the NFTs and garners the majority of profit. When I am looking to invest into one of these projects, I look at the track record, look at the financial model, read the white paper, and ask myself "Is this a toy or an investment?"
Personally I want blockchain gaming to change the future of gaming and its not about getting rich. I don't think every game should involve NFTs but I hope NFTs change how major gaming companies restrict peer 2 peer sales of skins.
Anyone who is Anti-Crypto or block chain gaming, has the right to express themselves, just don't look ignorant by making over generalized statements about blockchain gaming. Try to enlighten others with real information about why said project is bad and not just "Crypto Bad, NFTs Bad". Those who are guilty of misinformation are doing a disservice to the gaming industry.
As usual with MMO's, I will wait 6 months to a year after the official release to check back in and determine if I want to play it. I wonder if it will actually release? And then still be viable a year later?
Is Garriot trying to create another shitty money sink MMO? I'll pass, thanks. What a sad sack developer he's become. I hope he knows, to anyone with a thought outside of following MMOs blindly, his credibility as someone who can deliver a game that isn't steeped in 90s tedium and terrible design principles doesn't give a shit about his name.
All you have to look at is what happened with Shroud of the Avatar to know never to touch this. Then put blockchain NFTs in the mix and this is a hard pass.
It's so sad and pathetic that massivelyOP didn't even do the interview.
It's honestly amazing there are still Ultima Online coat tails to ride at this point. Pretty embarrassing.
"You CAN'T buy ships for RL money." - MaxBacon
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Well I guess Garriott thinks he has squeezed all the $ out of Shroud of The Avatar that he can - don't buy in to the hype on this new one. So much for Shroud of The Avatar... I was a backer on that game and it NEVER fulfilled even it's original promises. Garriott's game "designs" now are all about bilking $$ out of kickstarter style backers with never-ending development cycles, early access alpha, early access beta, pre-release "add-ons", blah, blah until finally the game is dead at time of release with no new players coming in. No new players = dead MMO. Just don't do it.
Keep buying your WoW mounts, your FFIV skins, your LoL skins, and etc. Try selling them, you can't. Like every project and investment, do some research. The evolution of gaming is player ownership. There is a right and wrong way to go about it and we will see which companies do it right. There is a ton of scams in the space RN. Mixing truth with lies can be the most convincing strategy. Just like Kickstarter, there is good and bad. There has definitely been good kickstarters and there will DEFINITELY be good Block chain games, it will take time though.
Block-chain is not necessary for player ownership.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
In the end younger folk are gonna leverage all this and have great adventures. Meanwhile the ultima generation hates anything past early wow and enjoys wallowing in that era and not enjoying new adventures. They were the neckbeards. However ne,them, don't be superior. Your starting to sound like the ultima gen.
I don't know how it's gonna turn out. I will probably put a bit of coin into it and hope. Plus it'll be a bit of a sendoff. I doubt the have too many more major projects left. They've left me with many good memories, so it's the least I can do.
I give it a 550. Blockchain is here. Suck it up!
I'm not sure why Richard doesn't just go into actual real life Real Estate since he likes to try and make money from selling property, rather than trying to sell property in a digital pixel world. I have no more F's to give should anyone fall for another RG pixel property scam again.
Second, "great adventures"? I highly doubt these games are going to have any adventures outside of the gambling component that can already be found in sports book betting and online poker.
Lastly, if it means I don't automatically accept whatever piece of crap that comes out that spends more on voice overs, skins and cash shop items than actual gameplay, I am proud to be a card carrying member of the Ultima generation. And while I know it's trendy to label anyone who disagrees with your enlightened position as hateful, some of us just don't settle for lack of polish, quality and content. Just because there is crap on the table doesn't mean you have to eat it.
- RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right?
- FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?
High-profile NFT scams, if NFTs continue to grow in the marketplace, seem like a good way to set one off. We've already got predatory pre-launch monetization in place that's resulted in a lot of really poor quality, half-assed games flooding things like Steam. A flood of low quality titles is exactly the powder keg the previous industry crash was sitting on top of in 1983. NFT (combined with hacks and these same poor quality, unfinished games) sounds like a helluva matchstick to me.
I'd prefer my favorite hobby not suffer an industry recession.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
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These guys are going after this current generation that is all in on virtual properties.... It's another in a very long line of get rich quick schemes that we have seen in the past decade or so.....So many people now are lured by greed.
I would like Tabula Rasa back though.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
This is semantics, they "couldn't" ask what they wanted to ask so they "couldn't go through with the interview". MmKay. I recall the same thing has happened with them in the past with other developers too.
All that ends up happening is they editorialize their articles without actually getting a comment from the developer. At least I learned something from this article. Even if it is largely a PR piece.
Most people who are anti block chain gaming don't do any research about the economic model for each game. Very few games put the minting process into player hands. For me, the biggest flag is when the company is the entity which mints the NFTs and garners the majority of profit. When I am looking to invest into one of these projects, I look at the track record, look at the financial model, read the white paper, and ask myself "Is this a toy or an investment?"
Personally I want blockchain gaming to change the future of gaming and its not about getting rich. I don't think every game should involve NFTs but I hope NFTs change how major gaming companies restrict peer 2 peer sales of skins.
Anyone who is Anti-Crypto or block chain gaming, has the right to express themselves, just don't look ignorant by making over generalized statements about blockchain gaming. Try to enlighten others with real information about why said project is bad and not just "Crypto Bad, NFTs Bad". Those who are guilty of misinformation are doing a disservice to the gaming industry.
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All you have to look at is what happened with Shroud of the Avatar to know never to touch this. Then put blockchain NFTs in the mix and this is a hard pass.
It's so sad and pathetic that massivelyOP didn't even do the interview.
It's honestly amazing there are still Ultima Online coat tails to ride at this point. Pretty embarrassing.
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