The last numbers posted were for june 10th ay mmogchart.
If you bother to read what I said, I sad time on missin was nearly halved, and that it could only be due to players unsubbing, or simply not playing (which is even worse).
The effect on the game iteslf is the same. An underpopulated server, IE nobody to play with or against, especially at off peak hours.
Originally posted by plummerx The last numbers posted were for june 10th ay mmogchart.If you bother to read what I said, I sad time on missin was nearly halved, and that it could only be due to players unsubbing, or simply not playing (which is even worse).The effect on the game iteslf is the same. An underpopulated server, IE nobody to play with or against, especially at off peak hours.1st rule of MMO's: HAVE PLAYERS.
Originally posted by plummerx The last numbers posted were for june 10th ay mmogchart. If you bother to read what I said, I sad time on missin was nearly halved, and that it could only be due to players unsubbing, or simply not playing (which is even worse). The effect on the game iteslf is the same. An underpopulated server, IE nobody to play with or against, especially at off peak hours. 1st rule of MMO's: HAVE PLAYERS.
The logic in your post is non sequitir. People not playing is even worse than people unsubscribing? LOL you must go.
People are paying to subscribe, and not playing the game. When you only have 13K subscribers at best, that means that the game world doesn't even have enough players logged on to function correctly.
If people are not playing I don't know who those people shooting at me and fighting alongside me are. CRS must have implemented 100s of computer players. Those computer players are all on teamspeak talking to me also. Weird, I wonder which game I'm actually playing.
game has currently enough players to find good action, every day since open beta you see green tags which started subscriptions. iam sure with the new release the server will have even more players and get packed.
Speaks volumes in my book, again I would recommend any potential new players try the game, read the forums and listen to everyones point of view. Generally the most vocal people are those who either loathe the game or love the game.
I would point out that the numbers you posted (if extrapolated as representative of the entire current and former playerbase) represent a third of the playerbase evaporating into thin air, and when you don't have very many to start with, that's VERY significant..
Why don't you tell the good folks about how CRS is eliminating HQ3's, because there is nobody to man them or lead them.
Tell them about how this game initially sold 45k copies, has had one boxed re-release already, and has had four years plus to build the subscriber base, yest STILL has 13k subscribers AT BEST?
Time on mission may or may not relate to subscriptions (actually it HAS to to some degree) but the effects are the same on gameplay, the server population is down.
Or you could say that despite a shaky launch he game still remains with 13,000 subscribers steady and is growing because of the positive direction the game has taken.
You're coming over as a spoilt child plummer, soon you'll be recruiting people unsuspectingly because they're just going to get to the point where they don't farking believe what you say.
You are unreasonable, have a vendetta against the company and you're getting a reputation as a troll, even on the OTR forums. You've gone to far and the good folks here who still want to see this game succeed know that you're full of sh1t.
All you have is indirect sources who get their information indirectly from a non-existant but formula based source that isn't even correct.
The playerbase is steadily growing and if you played you'd notice it on the teamspeak servers, in the chat channels, on the field, and on the forums. Plus it makes sense because I see a lot of familiar people each time in the game and I continually see new people also.
It's been said the game is growing slowly, and common sense says there will be a jump when the new box is released even moreso.
In the interests of full disclosure, it should be noted that I have a financial interest in Playnet/CRS, WWII Online’s developer. Having said that, the numbers shown are based on a combination of public statements and inside sources. Since the game’s launch the number of players has waxed and waned several times, usually between 11,000 and 13,000 subscribers. http://www.wwiionline.com/
Except CRS doesn't disclose their numbers to anyone. THey also haven't given any form of confirmation that those numbers are even close to accurate. You just assume he's telling the truth.
"numbers shown are based on a combination of public statements"
and the comment you've been using is months and months old, meaning that it could (and it is) far from accurate at this point. It's just a stale disclaimer to make his site almost worth viewing.
The statement has not changed in 2 years, it's just a bogus site in my view, he listens to the under current of disgust and then adjusts his stats by my guess.
Ok. Conclusion. You're just a flamer. I'm done, I realize that gasp I have better things to do than mess with you. You're ignorant, unwilling to listen, and full of false information that drives your ego.
You're comparable to a box, solid, unmoving, and only good to really sit on or put stuff in the opening.
His numbers have been cited, but they are not official and CRS does not give out numbers, plain and simple. They aren't accurate, it's a fact, and despite how much you wish to believe that he is all knowing and can magically find the number of players, he can't.
Goodbye, have fun wasting your life. I just had an idea of what I want to do with my free time from now on.
www.blender3d.org If you like to create, welcome to Blender.
If you like to destroy (common sense and brain cells) stick with plummerx.
Plummerx needs to grow up. Why do you feel the need to go out of your way to flame and run down a perfectly good game that fills a gap in the gaming industry... where else are you going to play a massive online world war 2 game?
So you don't like it? You don't think it's worth the sub? just walk away, personally there are a lot of MMOG games that I think are absolute ripoffs but I'm not gonna start posting mountains of ill conceived mumbo jumbo for the sake of it.
Why not take a break from trolling and come back to the game in 6 months time to try it out again?
If you still don't like it then post your reasons why and go find another game to play for a while.
Originally posted by wireded21 Plummerx needs to grow up. Why do you feel the need to go out of your way to flame and run down a perfectly good game that fills a gap in the gaming industry... where else are you going to play a massive online world war 2 game? So you don't like it? You don't think it's worth the sub? just walk away, personally there are a lot of MMOG games that I think are absolute ripoffs but I'm not gonna start posting mountains of ill conceived mumbo jumbo for the sake of it. Why not take a break from trolling and come back to the game in 6 months time to try it out again? If you still don't like it then post your reasons why and go find another game to play for a while. It's what any mature person would do.
A "mature" person would try to refute my arguements with facts, not personal attacks. The one thing WWII online seems to do very well is lower mentality and erode the maturity of those who so visciously defend it.
I may well try it again, and I'm trying to spec out a new pc around the possibility.
Meanwhile, I'm not letting CRS off the hook, nore will I let it use lies and misleading statements as a marketing tool against consumers.
Originally posted by plummerx A "mature" person would try to refute my arguements with facts, not personal attacks. The one thing WWII online seems to do very well is lower mentality and erode the maturity of those who so visciously defend it.I may well try it again, and I'm trying to spec out a new pc around the possibility.Meanwhile, I'm not letting CRS off the hook, nore will I let it use lies and misleading statements as a marketing tool against consumers.
Are you kidding me here? All YOU do is attack people by calling them fanboys. Everytime someone posts something you wave it away by attacking them and calling them a fanboy, which is what you've been told off for doing on the forum you keep telling people is all about people being sick of the game.
Remember that forum he keeps telling people about where the truth is told? Well, I belong to it and it's mostly made up of people who still like the game, still play the game and are sick of plummerx calling them fanboys. LOL!!!!
However, the smears leveled at me are quite nasty, and persoabl in nature, and very charachteristic of what fanboys might say.
"Stereotypically, fanboys are attributed with a sycophantic devotion to the creators and principles behind a work they are currently enthralled by, but will quickly move their attention elsewhere once something better or just newer comes along. A good example of this is Harry Knowles and his associates at Ain't It Cool News, whose particular focus is on movies in the action, fantasy, adventure and superhero genres. Fanboys are noted for a very emotional attachment to their chosen subject, often taking negative remarks about it as a personal attack. They will readily engage in debates, but will fall back on emotional responses. For example, a "fanboy" may go out of their way to point out negative and often untrue statements about their obsession's rivals; this is commonly known as FUD."
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The last numbers posted were for june 10th ay mmogchart.
If you bother to read what I said, I sad time on missin was nearly halved, and that it could only be due to players unsubbing, or simply not playing (which is even worse).
The effect on the game iteslf is the same. An underpopulated server, IE nobody to play with or against, especially at off peak hours.
1st rule of MMO's: HAVE PLAYERS.
When was the last time you played the game?
The logic is absolute.
People are paying to subscribe, and not playing the game. When you only have 13K subscribers at best, that means that the game world doesn't even have enough players logged on to function correctly.
If people are not playing I don't know who those people shooting at me and fighting alongside me are. CRS must have implemented 100s of computer players. Those computer players are all on teamspeak talking to me also. Weird, I wonder which game I'm actually playing.
Check the time on mission numbers. They don't bear out that story.
the in-game numbers seem to
I find action every time i log on.
Time on mission is down, but that does not equate to subscriptions.
A poll on the OTR forums asks the question have you unsubbed?
Yes (Played Axis : Lonewolf) 3% [ 4 ]
Yes (Played Axis : Squad) 27% [ 28 ]
Yes (Played Allied : Lonewolf) 0% [ 1 ]
Yes (Played Allied : Squad) 4% [ 5 ]
No 63% [ 65 ]
Speaks volumes in my book, again I would recommend any potential new players try the game, read the forums and listen to everyones point of view. Generally the most vocal people are those who either loathe the game or love the game.
Life can be tapped
I would point out that the numbers you posted (if extrapolated as representative of the entire current and former playerbase) represent a third of the playerbase evaporating into thin air, and when you don't have very many to start with, that's VERY significant..
Why don't you tell the good folks about how CRS is eliminating HQ3's, because there is nobody to man them or lead them.
Tell them about how this game initially sold 45k copies, has had one boxed re-release already, and has had four years plus to build the subscriber base, yest STILL has 13k subscribers AT BEST?
Time on mission may or may not relate to subscriptions (actually it HAS to to some degree) but the effects are the same on gameplay, the server population is down.
Or you could say that despite a shaky launch he game still remains with 13,000 subscribers steady and is growing because of the positive direction the game has taken.
No you couldn't because in spite of any new players the game may have attracted, the game's subscribership has been flatlined for at least three years
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart3_files/Subscriptions_12180_image001.gif
You're coming over as a spoilt child plummer, soon you'll be recruiting people unsuspectingly because they're just going to get to the point where they don't farking believe what you say.
You are unreasonable, have a vendetta against the company and you're getting a reputation as a troll, even on the OTR forums. You've gone to far and the good folks here who still want to see this game succeed know that you're full of sh1t.
Life can be tapped
Hobbit just said the subsciber base is growing.
I posted hard evidence that it's not.
Refute it if you can, insult me if you can't.
All you have is indirect sources who get their information indirectly from a non-existant but formula based source that isn't even correct.
The playerbase is steadily growing and if you played you'd notice it on the teamspeak servers, in the chat channels, on the field, and on the forums. Plus it makes sense because I see a lot of familiar people each time in the game and I continually see new people also.
It's been said the game is growing slowly, and common sense says there will be a jump when the new box is released even moreso.
http://www.mmogchart.com/
WWII Online (Accuracy Rating: A)
In the interests of full disclosure, it should be noted that I have a financial interest in Playnet/CRS, WWII Online’s developer. Having said that, the numbers shown are based on a combination of public statements and inside sources. Since the game’s launch the number of players has waxed and waned several times, usually between 11,000 and 13,000 subscribers. http://www.wwiionline.com/
Except CRS doesn't disclose their numbers to anyone. THey also haven't given any form of confirmation that those numbers are even close to accurate. You just assume he's telling the truth.
"numbers shown are based on a combination of public statements"
and the comment you've been using is months and months old, meaning that it could (and it is) far from accurate at this point. It's just a stale disclaimer to make his site almost worth viewing.
The statement has not changed in 2 years, it's just a bogus site in my view, he listens to the under current of disgust and then adjusts his stats by my guess.
Life can be tapped
His numbers have been cited by the gaming press, as well as slashdot, and are used by investors in the game development and publishing industry.
He still has money in playnet/crs as an investment.
Just like a fanboy, attack the source when you cannot refute the numbers.
Ok. Conclusion. You're just a flamer. I'm done, I realize that gasp I have better things to do than mess with you. You're ignorant, unwilling to listen, and full of false information that drives your ego.
You're comparable to a box, solid, unmoving, and only good to really sit on or put stuff in the opening.
His numbers have been cited, but they are not official and CRS does not give out numbers, plain and simple. They aren't accurate, it's a fact, and despite how much you wish to believe that he is all knowing and can magically find the number of players, he can't.
Goodbye, have fun wasting your life. I just had an idea of what I want to do with my free time from now on.
www.blender3d.org
If you like to create, welcome to Blender.
If you like to destroy (common sense and brain cells) stick with plummerx.
Cya.
Plummerx needs to grow up. Why do you feel the need to go out of your way to flame and run down a perfectly good game that fills a gap in the gaming industry... where else are you going to play a massive online world war 2 game?
So you don't like it? You don't think it's worth the sub? just walk away, personally there are a lot of MMOG games that I think are absolute ripoffs but I'm not gonna start posting mountains of ill conceived mumbo jumbo for the sake of it.
Why not take a break from trolling and come back to the game in 6 months time to try it out again?
If you still don't like it then post your reasons why and go find another game to play for a while.
It's what any mature person would do.
He hasn't played in almost a year to begin with.
A "mature" person would try to refute my arguements with facts, not personal attacks. The one thing WWII online seems to do very well is lower mentality and erode the maturity of those who so visciously defend it.
I may well try it again, and I'm trying to spec out a new pc around the possibility.
Meanwhile, I'm not letting CRS off the hook, nore will I let it use lies and misleading statements as a marketing tool against consumers.
Are you kidding me here? All YOU do is attack people by calling them fanboys. Everytime someone posts something you wave it away by attacking them and calling them a fanboy, which is what you've been told off for doing on the forum you keep telling people is all about people being sick of the game.
Remember that forum he keeps telling people about where the truth is told? Well, I belong to it and it's mostly made up of people who still like the game, still play the game and are sick of plummerx calling them fanboys. LOL!!!!
"fanboy" is a factual term, not a slur:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanboy
However, the smears leveled at me are quite nasty, and persoabl in nature, and very charachteristic of what fanboys might say.
"Stereotypically, fanboys are attributed with a sycophantic devotion to the creators and principles behind a work they are currently enthralled by, but will quickly move their attention elsewhere once something better or just newer comes along. A good example of this is Harry Knowles and his associates at Ain't It Cool News, whose particular focus is on movies in the action, fantasy, adventure and superhero genres. Fanboys are noted for a very emotional attachment to their chosen subject, often taking negative remarks about it as a personal attack. They will readily engage in debates, but will fall back on emotional responses. For example, a "fanboy" may go out of their way to point out negative and often untrue statements about their obsession's rivals; this is commonly known as FUD."