So 24/7 is real. That tells me everything l need to know.
Yes, it is real. many details of what it is are still unreleased officially.
edit: nathannapalm's video above also explains this perfectly
You just linked to what it is. An extraction mode that is being developed in tandem. These clowns are doing exactly what Ashes and CU did. Making something nobody asked for like complete buffoons.
Should I laugh harder now at this monumental incompetence considering we already saw this fail spectacularly with other games and these brilliant developers wanted to emulate that colossal failure?
This idiotic idea should have been shot down as soon as it was suggested.
Going to launch much sooner, HAHAHAHA!! Yeah sure right after announcing they are redoing the entire games art style.
What an absolute joke.
edit: Gotta love those 34 vomit emojis!
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So 24/7 is real. That tells me everything l need to know.
Yes, it is real. many details of what it is are still unreleased officially.
edit: nathannapalm's video above also explains this perfectly
You just linked to what it is. An extraction mode that is being developed in tandem. These clowns are doing exactly what Ashes and CU did. Making something nobody asked for like complete buffoons.
Should I laugh harder now at this monumental incompetence considering we already saw this fail spectacularly with other games and these brilliant developers wanted to emulate that colossal failure?
This idiotic idea should have been shot down as soon as it was suggested.
Going to launch much sooner, HAHAHAHA!! Yeah sure right after announcing they are redoing the entire games art style.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Making Tarkov clones is the rage right now. How does VR anticipate pulling players away from popular titles like Dark and Darker, which are built with the format in mind, not as a playtest afterthought.
How do they plan on attracting players from the other many options that exist? How do they plan on monetizing these players to pay for their MMO development?
Making Tarkov clones is the rage right now. How does VR anticipate pulling players away from popular titles like Dark and Darker, which are built with the format in mind, not as a playtest afterthought.
How do they plan on attracting players from the other many options that exist? How do they plan on monetizing these players to pay for their MMO development?
Even more interesting....how many spinoffs of unreleased Kickstarter games actually ended up making money?
Ashes of creation apocalypse? Gone.
Camelot unchained has Ragnarok or whatever that was, but again, dead.
Don't even get me started on "kingdoms of Elyria."
It's funny when developers think they can pass off a partial release of one terrible game mode because they can't bring the original design to fruition, and think players are just going to cheer about it.
It's a bad look to begin with. All this drama surrounding it is way worse, like they were going to hide it, PR spin it, and somehow it was going to make it okay.
A month or so back long time employee Kilsin "left" the company suddenly, and there was some rumor of him coming to the unofficial Pantheon Discord to tell folks he was fired for an unintentional slip of the tongue.
Today he confirmed what his offense was.
xKilsinx wrote: "This is what I was terminated for. Innocently mentioning the disaster known as 24/7.
Hell hath no fury like a Joppa who has had someone steal his thunder
Ok, wow. I knew he was gone but had no clue he was fired! It was odd that he abruptly left but this explains it. This certainly puts things in a different light. So someone there DID have the balls to tell VR 247 was a terrible idea and they fired him for it. He was a good dude. What a shame.
That's not what happened. Someone on Discord mentioned the new 247, so Kilsin thought it was alright to mention it in Reddit. He didn't say anything negative about the new pre-alpha schedule, but. He was instructed by Ben Dean to not talk about it.
AFTER he was fired, he mentioned on Discord that a new mode was coming and implied that some people might not like it. That was about it. He is NOW posting as though he was warning us then, and that that is the reason he was canned, which according to people in the know is actually because he hadn't been doing a good job at work. This is why he was given a different (made up) position for his last year with the company. The mention of 247 was just the excuse management could use to get rid of him. That is probably why somebody like Joppa could mention 247 on Discord and not be fired, although he could have gotten in a little trouble (I doubt it though as he is the creative director. Kilsin was a community manager/moderator). The truth is way more boring and far more realistic than what is circulating around right now.
Lol, wut!?
Chris Perkins leaked 24/7 to the unofficial discord, it's still there...then VIPs leaked it to FB, Guild forums and Reddit. I then replied to a random thread, burried deep in Reddit defending VRs progress in development by saying "we are working towards 24/7 testing and it's all going to plan" that is the post that got me terminated. Even though, I was part of the team who was privileged to have knowledge and reply to those types of things for almost 10 years as the CM. Then being "promoted' into arguably an even more important role as head of Conduct and Security and with no mention of being removed from the list of approved posters of sensitive information, I was fired.
I spoke about my disaproval of the 24/7 development from the begining. It was a horrible idea and I made my feelings clear about it on the team. I expressed myself professionally but made it clear it wouldn't go over well in the community. I expressed concern over ongoing risks and implecations this may have for the company and I still did my job to the best of my ability over my 10 years or employment.
A the time of my termination, I had several big projects in the works and was focussing on building the mod team, growing my department into a standlone Conduct and Security department (as written into my contract), co-writing a "bullying and harrassment in the games industry e-book" with two people from other big game companies, all while overseeing the moderation, admin and policies and procedures for a good portion of the company and the entire and community.
I am very careful about what I say due to an NDA and legally binding contract. I am a professional that respects a lot of people who still work in VR and my reputation is important to me, so I'm not going to throw a buring torch at VR and run. I will however answer reasonable questions from the community, honestly, as I beleive they deserve that. I won't bad mouth VR or anyone working there but I will be critical and offer my opinion where I feel it is appropriate.
Nice try though.
I assure you, the "truth" is very interesting and you haven't seen it all yet
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A month or so back long time employee Kilsin "left" the company suddenly, and there was some rumor of him coming to the unofficial Pantheon Discord to tell folks he was fired for an unintentional slip of the tongue.
Today he confirmed what his offense was.
xKilsinx wrote: "This is what I was terminated for. Innocently mentioning the disaster known as 24/7.
Hell hath no fury like a Joppa who has had someone steal his thunder
Ok, wow. I knew he was gone but had no clue he was fired! It was odd that he abruptly left but this explains it. This certainly puts things in a different light. So someone there DID have the balls to tell VR 247 was a terrible idea and they fired him for it. He was a good dude. What a shame.
That's not what happened. Someone on Discord mentioned the new 247, so Kilsin thought it was alright to mention it in Reddit. He didn't say anything negative about the new pre-alpha schedule, but. He was instructed by Ben Dean to not talk about it.
AFTER he was fired, he mentioned on Discord that a new mode was coming and implied that some people might not like it. That was about it. He is NOW posting as though he was warning us then, and that that is the reason he was canned, which according to people in the know is actually because he hadn't been doing a good job at work. This is why he was given a different (made up) position for his last year with the company. The mention of 247 was just the excuse management could use to get rid of him. That is probably why somebody like Joppa could mention 247 on Discord and not be fired, although he could have gotten in a little trouble (I doubt it though as he is the creative director. Kilsin was a community manager/moderator). The truth is way more boring and far more realistic than what is circulating around right now.
Lol, wut!?
Chris Perkins leaked 24/7 to the unofficial discord, it's still there...then VIPs leaked it to FB, Guild forums and Reddit. I then replied to a random thread, burried deep in Reddit defending VRs progress in development by saying "we are working towards 24/7 testing and it's all going to plan" that is the post that got me terminated. Even though, I was part of the team who was privileged to have knowledge and reply to those types of things for almost 10 years as the CM. Then being "promoted' into arguably an even more important role as head of Conduct and Security and with no mention of being removed from the list of approved posters of sensitive information, I was fired.
I spoke about my disaproval of the 24/7 development from the begining. It was a horrible idea and I made my feelings clear about it on the team. I expressed myself professionally but made it clear it wouldn't go over well in the community. I expressed concern over ongoing risks and implecations this may have for the company and I still did my job to the best of my ability over my 10 years or employment.
A the time of my termination, I had several big projects in the works and was focussing on building the mod team, growing my department into a standlone Conduct and Security department (as written into my contract), co-writing a "bullying and harrassment in the games industry e-book" with two people from other big game companies, all while overseeing the moderation, admin and policies and procedures for a good portion of the company and the entire and community.
I am very careful about what I say due to an NDA and legally binding contract. I am a professional that respects a lot of people who still work in VR and my reputation is important to me, so I'm not going to throw a buring torch at VR and run. I will however answer reasonable questions from the community, honestly, as I beleive they deserve that. I won't bad mouth VR or anyone working there but I will be critical and offer my opinion where I feel it is appropriate.
Nice try though.
I assure you, the "truth" is very interesting and you haven't seen it all yet
Nice try at what though? You just said what I said you said and what I posted. You were terminated for posting on Reddit about the pre-alpha schedule and not for trying to warn people about the troubles likely to come along 247.
A month or so back long time employee Kilsin "left" the company suddenly, and there was some rumor of him coming to the unofficial Pantheon Discord to tell folks he was fired for an unintentional slip of the tongue.
Today he confirmed what his offense was.
xKilsinx wrote: "This is what I was terminated for. Innocently mentioning the disaster known as 24/7.
Hell hath no fury like a Joppa who has had someone steal his thunder
Ok, wow. I knew he was gone but had no clue he was fired! It was odd that he abruptly left but this explains it. This certainly puts things in a different light. So someone there DID have the balls to tell VR 247 was a terrible idea and they fired him for it. He was a good dude. What a shame.
That's not what happened. Someone on Discord mentioned the new 247, so Kilsin thought it was alright to mention it in Reddit. He didn't say anything negative about the new pre-alpha schedule, but. He was instructed by Ben Dean to not talk about it.
AFTER he was fired, he mentioned on Discord that a new mode was coming and implied that some people might not like it. That was about it. He is NOW posting as though he was warning us then, and that that is the reason he was canned, which according to people in the know is actually because he hadn't been doing a good job at work. This is why he was given a different (made up) position for his last year with the company. The mention of 247 was just the excuse management could use to get rid of him. That is probably why somebody like Joppa could mention 247 on Discord and not be fired, although he could have gotten in a little trouble (I doubt it though as he is the creative director. Kilsin was a community manager/moderator). The truth is way more boring and far more realistic than what is circulating around right now.
Lol, wut!?
Chris Perkins leaked 24/7 to the unofficial discord, it's still there...then VIPs leaked it to FB, Guild forums and Reddit. I then replied to a random thread, burried deep in Reddit defending VRs progress in development by saying "we are working towards 24/7 testing and it's all going to plan" that is the post that got me terminated. Even though, I was part of the team who was privileged to have knowledge and reply to those types of things for almost 10 years as the CM. Then being "promoted' into arguably an even more important role as head of Conduct and Security and with no mention of being removed from the list of approved posters of sensitive information, I was fired.
I spoke about my disaproval of the 24/7 development from the begining. It was a horrible idea and I made my feelings clear about it on the team. I expressed myself professionally but made it clear it wouldn't go over well in the community. I expressed concern over ongoing risks and implecations this may have for the company and I still did my job to the best of my ability over my 10 years or employment.
A the time of my termination, I had several big projects in the works and was focussing on building the mod team, growing my department into a standlone Conduct and Security department (as written into my contract), co-writing a "bullying and harrassment in the games industry e-book" with two people from other big game companies, all while overseeing the moderation, admin and policies and procedures for a good portion of the company and the entire and community.
I am very careful about what I say due to an NDA and legally binding contract. I am a professional that respects a lot of people who still work in VR and my reputation is important to me, so I'm not going to throw a buring torch at VR and run. I will however answer reasonable questions from the community, honestly, as I beleive they deserve that. I won't bad mouth VR or anyone working there but I will be critical and offer my opinion where I feel it is appropriate.
Nice try though.
I assure you, the "truth" is very interesting and you haven't seen it all yet
Nice try at what though? You just said what I said you said and what I posted. You were terminated for posting on Reddit about the pre-alpha schedule and not for trying to warn people about the troubles likely to come along 247.
Can you please link the post where he claimed he was fired for having tried to warn people. My recollection was he clearly said he was fired for 24/7 meaning his objections to it.
I don't think he made his objections to it public. I guess you were talking about what Reddit posters assumed was the reason for him being fired. How is that @Kilsin fault what other people speculate.
I'd like to add that reading your post you insinuated that @Kilsin was trying to say he was fired for having exposed 24/7. I do not think from what I read on his previous posts on Reddit which is easily checked he ever did.
There is room for interpretation in the posts particularly in the context of Kilsin's responses on Reddit where this is taking off and from where this forum topic is linked. One example of how people are taking Kilsin's comments is the one used above in this topic where Kilsin says he was fired for mentioning the disaster that is 247. This could be interpreted as most people have and how some of these topic posts and the Reddit topic has, which is to say he warned people like investors and such. That is how I initially interpreted it, but I admit it might not mean that.
Another example is the one I have posted the image of. Instead of saying something like, hey everyone, you are misinterpreting the details, I wasn't trying to prevent 247 by warning you. He seems content to let the misunderstanding continue. He says things like now he is glad people get to see the disaster that he was fired for mentioning. He is responding to numerous people in the Reddit thread and other threads regarding this, correcting some things that make him look better and giving additional details while letting people continue to make him look better and kinda like a victim, which maybe he is to some extent. As he says, we won't know the whole truth.
But you're right; it's not his job to fix how people are taking his comments necessarily, and he probably shouldn't be held responsible for how people take it and how they use it. I would however at least say something because last time this happened, VR employees were being harassed.
Having said all that, if I am off base in how I see it, I apologize to Kilsin. I also hope the truth he mentions here does come out.
Edit: I can't get the image to post. The Reddit post from his history is: Yep, I have been off it for months now. But the information I shared is officially being released, and my warnings are starting to see the light of day.
Every since 247 was officially announced as coming. I like most people I am guessing, assumed it was 247 uptime of pre alpha servers, so we could get better testing in and arrange guild activities for organised groups. Lets just say that didn't happen, and we'll have to wait and see what comes "next".
There is room for interpretation in the posts particularly in the context of Kilsin's responses on Reddit where this is taking off and from where this forum topic is linked. One example of how people are taking Kilsin's comments is the one used above in this topic where Kilsin says he was fired for mentioning the disaster that is 247. This could be interpreted as most people have and how some of these topic posts and the Reddit topic has, which is to say he warned people like investors and such. That is how I initially interpreted it, but I admit it might not mean that.
Another example is the one I have posted the image of. Instead of saying something like, hey everyone, you are misinterpreting the details, I wasn't trying to prevent 247 by warning you. He seems content to let the misunderstanding continue. He says things like now he is glad people get to see the disaster that he was fired for mentioning. He is responding to numerous people in the Reddit thread and other threads regarding this, correcting some things that make him look better and giving additional details while letting people continue to make him look better and kinda like a victim, which maybe he is to some extent. As he says, we won't know the whole truth.
But you're right; it's not his job to fix how people are taking his comments necessarily, and he probably shouldn't be held responsible for how people take it and how they use it. I would however at least say something because last time this happened, VR employees were being harassed.
Having said all that, if I am off base in how I see it, I apologize to Kilsin. I also hope the truth he mentions here does come out.
Edit: I can't get the image to post. The Reddit post from his history is: Yep, I have been off it for months now. But the information I shared is officially being released, and my warnings are starting to see the light of day.
"He is NOW posting as though he was warning us then, and that that is the reason he was canned, which according to people in the know is actually because he hadn't been doing a good job at work. This is why he was given a different (made up) position for his last year with the company. The mention of 247 was just the excuse management could use to get rid of him."
I have never posted and pretended that I warned anyone, mate. All of my constructive feedback was given internally while I still worked for VR then I posted in the unofficial Discord and spoke about how I was terminated as it bugged me at the time.
I don't have anything to hide, my original Reddit post that got me terminted said:
"Dead? Haha We've just had a PA weekend and are moving towards 24/7 server uptime. We are far from dead and development is progressing nicely!"
That was many threads deep and had 3 upvotes yet it was deemded by Michael Butler to have done unsurmountable damage to the project.
I don't know how else my posts can be inturpereted but I'm happy to clear things up if you still have questions.
This is really becoming a 'he said, she said' discussion, I for one am happy to take Kilsin at his word because it makes not one iota of difference to what should really concern us, where the game stands now which is up the swanny.
@Kilsin thanks for the clarification that people on Reddit to hopefully dig deeply enough into the comments here to see it.
Yes I remember that post and the day you were on Discord discussing this stuff, although it appears a lot of what was discussed is gone now. That day I saw the Reddit post, I was excited to see 24/7 servers "officially" out there for us to discuss. Then you deleted the Reddit post and were let go, so I deleted anything I had said about it.
I don't have any ill will for you, but I think the separation and aftermath could have been handled better, including the last couple days.
At the end of the day, it's shitty to fire someone by text/Teams. It's not like this was some kind of emergency. Guy worked there for a decade and he gets a text that he's fired?
That, more than anything I have seen tells me these folks are scum.
110% agree. This one fact alone is more than enough reason for me to avoid this company and game like the plague.
If this is how they treat their employees, how will they treat their players?!?!
As I remember it, they had been trying to reach him for a while (a
day or two?). If you look at the first sentence, they say something about
having to set up the teams chat because his schedule has been so busy,
meaning they were saying diplomatically that you aren't returning our
calls. jeana then mentions how mike has been trying to set something up with him, so since he isn't working with them, they have to do it this way. when he responded that he was headed out the door and couldn't
talk to them then, that's when they decided it was best to have the
conversation they had wanted to have probably on the phone with him.
Weak excuse.
Option #1 is they had such poor management and control that they had zero planned/regular touchpoints with their REMOTE employee charged with managing their community
Option #2 is they couldn't wait a day or two to do it like a human being.
Nothing about what I saw screams "emergency". Instead it just reeks "Coward Scum"
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Wow...so Pantheon the only game I had hope for is pretty much dead at this point. Literally what? An extraction mode? Listen...I love Tarkov but this is not what I want. I want a fucking MMORPG. Ridiculous how long its taking. These crowd funded MMORPG's are a joke.
I remember a time when I'd buy a game and not know the name of any of the developers, any of the office drama they faced, or who was being sued for [fill in the blank].
Wow...so Pantheon the only game I had hope for is pretty much dead at this point. Literally what? An extraction mode? Listen...I love Tarkov but this is not what I want. I want a fucking MMORPG. Ridiculous how long its taking. These crowd funded MMORPG's are a joke.
Yes, Pantheon the MMO is dead. Pantheon the extraction "mode" is the new game. Ben's own words say MMO is on hold until at least next year.
Wow...so Pantheon the only game I had hope for is pretty much dead at this point. Literally what? An extraction mode? Listen...I love Tarkov but this is not what I want. I want a fucking MMORPG. Ridiculous how long its taking. These crowd funded MMORPG's are a joke.
Yes, Pantheon the MMO is dead. Pantheon the extraction "mode" is the new game. Ben's own words say MMO is on hold until at least next year.
Hey, they might turn it around and get back on track.
Remember Ashes of Creation Armageddon? The Battle Royale mode that was "just for testing purposes".
Wow...so Pantheon the only game I had hope for is pretty much dead at this point. Literally what? An extraction mode? Listen...I love Tarkov but this is not what I want. I want a fucking MMORPG. Ridiculous how long its taking. These crowd funded MMORPG's are a joke.
I don't believe the MMO is dead just yet, but seems that they are using a "new mode" to "test" features etc. It would be more like they are trying to attract more funding from a new audience, that being the Dark and Darker crowd. If this doesn't provide addition revenue then the future progress on the MMO would be in doubt. My personal feeling is Pantheon slow pace doesn't lend it self to attracting that market. Then the new graphics and state of the PA wouldn't help that goal.
Wow...so Pantheon the only game I had hope for is pretty much dead at this point. Literally what? An extraction mode? Listen...I love Tarkov but this is not what I want. I want a fucking MMORPG. Ridiculous how long its taking. These crowd funded MMORPG's are a joke.
Yes, Pantheon the MMO is dead. Pantheon the extraction "mode" is the new game. Ben's own words say MMO is on hold until at least next year.
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Should I laugh harder now at this monumental incompetence considering we already saw this fail spectacularly with other games and these brilliant developers wanted to emulate that colossal failure?
This idiotic idea should have been shot down as soon as it was suggested.
Going to launch much sooner, HAHAHAHA!! Yeah sure right after announcing they are redoing the entire games art style.
What an absolute joke.
edit: Gotta love those 34 vomit emojis!
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3852635&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=65#post535014764
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3852635&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=65#post535337144
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Ashes of creation apocalypse? Gone.
Camelot unchained has Ragnarok or whatever that was, but again, dead.
Don't even get me started on "kingdoms of Elyria."
It's funny when developers think they can pass off a partial release of one terrible game mode because they can't bring the original design to fruition, and think players are just going to cheer about it.
It's a bad look to begin with. All this drama surrounding it is way worse, like they were going to hide it, PR spin it, and somehow it was going to make it okay.
Lol, wut!?
Chris Perkins leaked 24/7 to the unofficial discord, it's still there...then VIPs leaked it to FB, Guild forums and Reddit. I then replied to a random thread, burried deep in Reddit defending VRs progress in development by saying "we are working towards 24/7 testing and it's all going to plan" that is the post that got me terminated. Even though, I was part of the team who was privileged to have knowledge and reply to those types of things for almost 10 years as the CM. Then being "promoted' into arguably an even more important role as head of Conduct and Security and with no mention of being removed from the list of approved posters of sensitive information, I was fired.
I spoke about my disaproval of the 24/7 development from the begining. It was a horrible idea and I made my feelings clear about it on the team. I expressed myself professionally but made it clear it wouldn't go over well in the community. I expressed concern over ongoing risks and implecations this may have for the company and I still did my job to the best of my ability over my 10 years or employment.
A the time of my termination, I had several big projects in the works and was focussing on building the mod team, growing my department into a standlone Conduct and Security department (as written into my contract), co-writing a "bullying and harrassment in the games industry e-book" with two people from other big game companies, all while overseeing the moderation, admin and policies and procedures for a good portion of the company and the entire and community.
I am very careful about what I say due to an NDA and legally binding contract. I am a professional that respects a lot of people who still work in VR and my reputation is important to me, so I'm not going to throw a buring torch at VR and run. I will however answer reasonable questions from the community, honestly, as I beleive they deserve that. I won't bad mouth VR or anyone working there but I will be critical and offer my opinion where I feel it is appropriate.
Nice try though.
I assure you, the "truth" is very interesting and you haven't seen it all yet
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I don't think he made his objections to it public. I guess you were talking about what Reddit posters assumed was the reason for him being fired. How is that @Kilsin fault what other people speculate.
I'd like to add that reading your post you insinuated that @Kilsin was trying to say he was fired for having exposed 24/7. I do not think from what I read on his previous posts on Reddit which is easily checked he ever did.
I have never posted and pretended that I warned anyone, mate. All of my constructive feedback was given internally while I still worked for VR then I posted in the unofficial Discord and spoke about how I was terminated as it bugged me at the time.
I don't have anything to hide, my original Reddit post that got me terminted said:
"Dead? Haha
We've just had a PA weekend and are moving towards 24/7 server uptime. We are far from dead and development is progressing nicely!"
That was many threads deep and had 3 upvotes yet it was deemded by Michael Butler to have done unsurmountable damage to the project.
I don't know how else my posts can be inturpereted but I'm happy to clear things up if you still have questions.
Option #1 is they had such poor management and control that they had zero planned/regular touchpoints with their REMOTE employee charged with managing their community
Option #2 is they couldn't wait a day or two to do it like a human being.
Nothing about what I saw screams "emergency". Instead it just reeks "Coward Scum"
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I miss those days.
Yes, Pantheon the MMO is dead. Pantheon the extraction "mode" is the new game. Ben's own words say MMO is on hold until at least next year.
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I don't believe the MMO is dead just yet, but seems that they are using a "new mode" to "test" features etc. It would be more like they are trying to attract more funding from a new audience, that being the Dark and Darker crowd.
If this doesn't provide addition revenue then the future progress on the MMO would be in doubt. My personal feeling is Pantheon slow pace doesn't lend it self to attracting that market. Then the new graphics and state of the PA wouldn't help that goal.
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