Smarter play would be to take that money and invest it. By the time this game actually releases you would have a significant return instead of pissing that money away on ephemeral digital assets that you don't technically even own. Even at a 5% rate that would be $2400 annually before taxes. Not a bad return for doing nothing but putting money in a pretty conservative interest bearing investment. You could get that rate on US government bonds right now thanks to the feds inflation fighting which, short of the United States government going completely bankrupt, will be guaranteed to pay out. If you're willing to invest in stocks or real estate the rate of return can be higher.
Anyway maybe there's people out there so rich that dropping that much money on Star Citizen makes sense. I'm just not one of them.
Anyway maybe there's people out there so rich that dropping that much money on Star Citizen makes sense. I'm just not one of them.
There are. Not sure why people don't get that. This game seems to be leaning toward "super rich people."
And yes, someone is going to come here and say "well, super rich people invest and use their money wisely." To that I say "Not all of them do."
look at the extravagant lives that some entertainers/business people/sports personalities live and it's clear that there is a point where dropping what some people consider a year's paycheck in a moment isn't all that.
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I think the concern about what this means for players is genuine, if all these ships were not worth it no one would buy it, so this is a huge impact in game. One guy could create a guild of loyal followers if he could gift some of those ships. If that's not possible it is still a huge advantage to know you can go on risky adventures and have another multiple ace cards play if your ship gets destroyed. Also they may be able to take part in economic activity without human pilots?
I think the concern about what this means for players is genuine, if all these ships were not worth it no one would buy it, so this is a huge impact in game. One guy could create a guild of loyal followers if he could gift some of those ships. If that's not possible it is still a huge advantage to know you can go on risky adventures and have another multiple ace cards play if your ship gets destroyed. Also they may be able to take part in economic activity without human pilots?
It's a game for rich people. If $48K USD isn't "shrug money" for the player, then they need to look for a game more in line with their economic bracket.
Welcome to the late stage necrotic laissez-faire capitalism so many here promote. From the comments in this thread, I can see it's a bit of a "leopard's ate my face" moment for some, but not quite the "self-aware wolves" moment it really needs to be.
I think the concern about what this means for players is genuine, if all these ships were not worth it no one would buy it, so this is a huge impact in game. One guy could create a guild of loyal followers if he could gift some of those ships. If that's not possible it is still a huge advantage to know you can go on risky adventures and have another multiple ace cards play if your ship gets destroyed. Also they may be able to take part in economic activity without human pilots?
I strongly suspect this game is, at least now, for people who have money. Not for the layman.
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Best scam on the market. Make a snail's pace improvement, and people still believe the game is "in development". But it's still in ALPHA!
Just keep selling ships for insane prices to fund your never-ending, never-releasing money making machine.
The superdefenders here are so busy playing yet spend so much energy and time defending it. They see nothing wrong with anything. Chris Roberts could literally take their first born to unlock the best ship, the next week delete it and they would defend it.
I've even seen them label other players of SC who complain about anything as haters and attack their own on their forums which is absurd. They are either devs, Chris Roberts burner accounts or paid shills because it's not normal.
I've seen this before with Tesla troll farm acocunts back when twitter was twitter. It was revealed that there were people out there whose job it was to literally spend all day trolling the internet looking to defend Tesla and Elon. I doubt Chris Roberts could afford a troll farm on that scale, but a few guys here and there seems to be enough of a nussance.
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Whales and developers that build games around them have messed things up for the common man.
I don't really see this as anything new.
There have always been products and services for people with a LOT of money.
I do think it's short sighted to create games around whales as it's easy enough for the next big thing to come along and suddenly your audience leaves and your revenue dries up.
Just another reason why I don't really believe in free to play.
Yes not new but we are old enough we remember when buying a game or paying a monthly sub gave you acccesss to the same game as everyone else. When you saw someone with a cool sword, mount or spaceship. You knew what they did to earn it.
Whales and developers that build games around them have messed things up for the common man.
I don't really see this as anything new.
There have always been products and services for people with a LOT of money.
I do think it's short sighted to create games around whales as it's easy enough for the next big thing to come along and suddenly your audience leaves and your revenue dries up.
Just another reason why I don't really believe in free to play.
Yes not new but we are old enough we remember when buying a game or paying a monthly sub gave you acccesss to the same game as everyone else. When you saw someone with a cool sword, mount or spaceship. You knew what they did to earn it.
Or when people bought leveling services and had their credit cards and accounts stolen, or just bought a fully leveled or character unlock on ebay.
I dont know what is the bigger shock: A game that sells items for that much money, or people that actually will spend that on a lame video game? I just wonder how many people ruin their lives and their marriages buying stupid stuff like this?
Whales and developers that build games around them have messed things up for the common man.
I don't really see this as anything new.
There have always been products and services for people with a LOT of money.
I do think it's short sighted to create games around whales as it's easy enough for the next big thing to come along and suddenly your audience leaves and your revenue dries up.
Just another reason why I don't really believe in free to play.
Yes not new but we are old enough we remember when buying a game or paying a monthly sub gave you acccesss to the same game as everyone else. When you saw someone with a cool sword, mount or spaceship. You knew what they did to earn it.
Though there were people who purchased assets on eBay.
people using money to bypass game mechanics or to gear/level their character is nothing new.
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I pledged money to fund this back at the very beginning and was enthused about the vision and game that was being presented. I really was excited and looked forward to playing their vision of the game.
But after the feature creep and little progress made over this insane amount of time (given the amount of money and talent they had and are getting), got a little disillusioned in this company.
What really disappointed me was the continual selling of ships and packages and skins year after year for insane amounts of money - to me it feels like the original vision and passion has gotten lost and they realized that they don't really have to finish or even remotely finish the game in timely manner, they can make more just buy stringing it out and selling more and more ships, items, etc. To me this is milking the public.
I'm not saying people don't have a right to spend their money on what they want, not arguing that...but just feel this has gotten beyond ridiculous. I scratch my head on how many posts I see regarding other games that cry "pay to win" but this one seems to not garner the same reaction which confounds me...
Anyway, as a person that actually bought a PC computer so I could play Wing Commander way back when, I am very disappointed in what this game, company, and leadership has become.
I think the concern about what this means for players is genuine, if all these ships were not worth it no one would buy it, so this is a huge impact in game. One guy could create a guild of loyal followers if he could gift some of those ships. If that's not possible it is still a huge advantage to know you can go on risky adventures and have another multiple ace cards play if your ship gets destroyed. Also they may be able to take part in economic activity without human pilots?
It's a game for rich people. If $48K USD isn't "shrug money" for the player, then they need to look for a game more in line with their economic bracket.
Welcome to the late stage necrotic laissez-faire capitalism so many here promote. From the comments in this thread, I can see it's a bit of a "leopard's ate my face" moment for some, but not quite the "self-aware wolves" moment it really needs to be.
We are seeing MMOs which already were becoming increasingly P2W becoming even more so. For Sc it will all be down to just how much of an advantage this gives you and we won't know that until the launch. If you can use the ships like players uses automated carriages in BDO for example that is a huge economic advantage, we will have to wait to see though.
The sad thing is, some duds wife is probably interrogating him about what the hell he spent $48k on....
How can you question your wife's expenditure on anything when you spend that for a game that's not out yet? Mind you she doesn't have to know its not out yet.
I recall some accounting exec spent about $2M on some popular mobile game using embezzled company funds. (Might be that last link you shared, I didn't click on it)
While the exec went to jail the game company were permitted to keep the funds as they delivered the services rendered in good faith, and had no knowledge beforehand that the money spent was stolen.
Anyone buying this $48K package knows full well what has been delivered to date and surely understands what is still outstanding.
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Anyway maybe there's people out there so rich that dropping that much money on Star Citizen makes sense. I'm just not one of them.
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Just keep selling ships for insane prices to fund your never-ending, never-releasing money making machine.
I strongly suspect this game is, at least now, for people who have money. Not for the layman.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
All completely finished and launched games that aren't an alpha concept.
Even worse, Still peasants though
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Or when people bought leveling services and had their credit cards and accounts stolen, or just bought a fully leveled or character unlock on ebay.
Peasant lemmings!
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
people using money to bypass game mechanics or to gear/level their character is nothing new.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
But after the feature creep and little progress made over this insane amount of time (given the amount of money and talent they had and are getting), got a little disillusioned in this company.
What really disappointed me was the continual selling of ships and packages and skins year after year for insane amounts of money - to me it feels like the original vision and passion has gotten lost and they realized that they don't really have to finish or even remotely finish the game in timely manner, they can make more just buy stringing it out and selling more and more ships, items, etc. To me this is milking the public.
I'm not saying people don't have a right to spend their money on what they want, not arguing that...but just feel this has gotten beyond ridiculous. I scratch my head on how many posts I see regarding other games that cry "pay to win" but this one seems to not garner the same reaction which confounds me...
Anyway, as a person that actually bought a PC computer so I could play Wing Commander way back when, I am very disappointed in what this game, company, and leadership has become.
We are seeing MMOs which already were becoming increasingly P2W becoming even more so. For Sc it will all be down to just how much of an advantage this gives you and we won't know that until the launch. If you can use the ships like players uses automated carriages in BDO for example that is a huge economic advantage, we will have to wait to see though.
While the exec went to jail the game company were permitted to keep the funds as they delivered the services rendered in good faith, and had no knowledge beforehand that the money spent was stolen.
Anyone buying this $48K package knows full well what has been delivered to date and surely understands what is still outstanding.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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