Originally posted by doobster Seems you just have hostility towards people who are better then you. Acually, no, I fully respect people that have better skills than I, but honestly, with the fact that I can have a 2:1 kill/death ratio with any gun on CS, I was definitely top 5% as far as player ranks went. And if I was using a non-gimpish gun like the AK47 or the Carbine, my ratio would have been more like 5:1. A 2:1 K:D ratio in a public server is nothing. Its even nothing in a scrim or match. I garuntee you that you were NOT in the top 5%. You seem quite angry that someone who put out 7k for a awp+deagle and took the time to learn how to use them right can take you out, who bought a 1.5k gun and shoots the widest and most accurate range of bullets. Each gun has its advantages and disadvantages, and if you cornerd an awp close range (because a shotty is a close range weapon) you would win (unless you suck). Its quite funny how you think 'awp + deagle' combo ruined the game. *Note: I am not an awp whore, i never use awp. You sure sound like an awp whore... But seriously, the quick switching from DE to AWP, and vice versa is very unrealistic and makes a complete laughingstock out of CS & CS:S. Up close? Do you even play CS? I and other people who have skill can shoot people just fine up close with the AWP, in fact most AWP whores now will just non-scope your ass with a one shot wonder... You sure you eve play CS dude? No game is 100% realistic. Go join the army for realistic sniper/pistol switching. I do play CS, but we play completely different parts of the game. You play a fragfest public server, and i play a competetive tactical part of the game. Saying that great players are bad because they use an AK/carbine or Awp is just freaking rediculous. Next, you attack leagues such as CAL. If someone can cheat to get into CPL and other tournaments that offer money, and then actually WIN those tournaments, they were the best in the first place. If you cheat over the internet, then go to a LAN tournament where cheating is impossible, if you dont have the RAW skills, you WONT finish anywhere NEAR the money. CAL does its best to find and ban hackers from the leauge (even though i believe they are way to leniant), and only the best teams in the world will finish in money. (money tournaments will always be over LAN, so its impossible to cheat) Yeah, but to get to the LAN tournaments, you have to play endless amounts of unregulated tourneys on your home PC... Since you cheat your way to the top, this completely invalidates any credibility to righteously winning any cash... I know of clans who use the wallhack through every tourney, own every last team that encounters them, and then barely win a LAN match without their hacks and proceed to the 'money' phase... This eliminates the naturally good players, and totally skews the legitimacy of any contestants... It's rigged by hackers and you know it, sure, they might prevail in the end to win these tourneys, but they are still scumbag cheaters in the end... It still sounds like you went to CAL, got embarassed because you realized you were a PubAllStar, and got pissed at tournament play. Quit trying to say every team cheats to the top, they dont. CAL-M - I players are watched extremely closely, and if you find a cheater you report him, and he gives adminds his demos and they watch him play and make a decision. Id bet that anyone who has earned money playing CSS actual has skills. If you cheat to get to CPL, go there on a LAN and play and totally dominate, you had the skill in the first place to get there. compLexity is 16-0 right now in CAL-I, and have a distinguished resume. Team 3D is 10-6, and is falling behind other teams as of right now. Anyone who thinks these teams hack is honestly just jelous, because all of CAL-I teams have PROVED their skills in person at LAN's ... Yes, all the while whoring the DE/AWP combo, and not even using 5% of the weapons CS:S has to offer... They should change it to 'CS:S DE/AWP Tournaments', this would describe it more accurately. Whine all you want about AWP/DE combos, it just proves what a pubber you are. -NO- self respecting CAL player whines about awps. I am automatic user for my team, and I do just fine versus awps. If you play the game for fun, you shouldnt be worried about hackers in public servers anyways. If you play the game competetivly, you can just do your best and if you honestly think someone is hacking, you may dispute and the admins will look at demos/screenshots/any other evidence and make a decision. I no longer play CS:S... I started competing with clans and started from the very bottom of the CAL ladder, and we caught so many of the teams we were competing against hacking, that we simply gave up... CS:S no longer requires skill, all it requires is the mastery of a handful of weapons, and to know the map like the back of your hand... I prefer BF2 and other games of the like that actually test your FPS know-how and strategy You were definently playing pub servers if you think CS has no strategic value, this is a ignorant statement., not how fast you can switch back and forth from your DE and AWP, that's just plain dumb... You caught so many teams? As in thier cheaters were banned from the league because you proved they were cheating. I doubt you anyone you played in CAL cheated against you, and you guys were just pubbers. I cant tell you how many times we scrim versus people who mainly pub, and they call us hackers, and we dont hack. I absolutly love how you say it requires no skill. So I'm guessing the people who earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for playing are just people who put in the 15 minuts to master a couple weapons. I dont know why your so angry with CS, Dis_Ordur. Sounds to be like you were beaten by a lot of teams and just came to the conclusion that "z0mgz everyone hax b3cauz3 i p4wnag3 in BF2 and oth3r gam3z" Angry? Who said I am angry... After seeing the shit I have for over 6 years now with CS, I simply do not have kind words for it... How long have you been playing it? Seriously, I started it 1 year after it was released, and by this time Sierra had literally just acquired it... I have been beaten by a lot of hackers, not only that, but they have told me they hack... Having seen the hacks firsthand and having seen how to load them and play with them discreetly, I simply lost interest... It's like playing a game of hold-em for fun with a rigged deck... I'm sure you have beaten by a lot of hackers, and they all said "Hey Dis_Ordur, I HACKED YOU!!" So what, you had a friend or knew a guy that hacked. You even said yourself that you had been banned from many servers because they thought you were hacking. Were you? Now you understand how much people find it easier to come to the conclusion that the enemy hacked, rather then outsmarted them. I've been playing competetivly for only a year now, but in that time I've only thought ONE team in an official match was hacking. So out of all my CAL experience, ONE team was POSSIBLY a hacking team. In conclusion, "People killed you, you got pissed and called them hackers"
I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this.
I haven't played CS for years, but I used to be pretty good and my clan got the chance to play against some of the best teams in the UK ( 4k, team AMD, choke etc). And honestly there was very little in terms of personal skill between myself and some of the top players, the difference between a half decent amateur and a professional comes in teamwork and tactics, not how good a shot you are. I cant believe all the BS about cheaters, yes a lot of people cheat of public servers, who cares? and I know you occasionally get cheaters in tourneys but its a lot rarer than you think, in all of the tournaments I've played in, if there was even the slightest suspicion of cheating, both sides had to send all their demos in to and admin to have them looked over for hacks. To say that half the clans in any big tournament cheat is ridiculous, if you can see that they're cheating then they're already going to be kicked out, if the admins cant tell, why do you think that your qualified to say?
WoW, your all making a big deal from this awp/deagle. k so i can say im cal-p material and people a kill is a kill. who cares if he used the awp, your only objective is to win the match and if you need to use a gun like that then so be it.
scout,shotty,ump,p90,dealies all these guns are bad in competative play cause you need like 2-10 shots to kill someone. awp/deagle combo is the way to go, 1) if you miss with your awp shot and a guy is running up to you, you can easily pop him in the face with 1 shot deagle(if your good) 2) your not afraid to run around the map with a deagle in ur hand, in ALOT of situation using the deagle than the awp is way better.
this means nothing, but this guy is like "my best streak is 20-0" pubs are so noob, my best streak in a random pub was 100+/3. after the server was getting tired of me they got the admin and banned me. almost everytime i play a pub i get people calling me hacker. my biggest streak in a week of getting banned was 13 servers. i dont hack,never have, never even loaded a hack, i dont even use cheats in adventure games. i have been in cal for years, my team has been disputed for hacks many times in cal-o. so i for 1 can say that there alot lots of hackers but sometimes is rare that they are. especially in competition. pub are so stupid as soon they see someone doing really good, they assume a hacker and ban him right away.
Originally posted by doobster Seems you just have hostility towards people who are better then you. Acually, no, I fully respect people that have better skills than I, but honestly, with the fact that I can have a 2:1 kill/death ratio with any gun on CS, I was definitely top 5% as far as player ranks went. And if I was using a non-gimpish gun like the AK47 or the Carbine, my ratio would have been more like 5:1. A 2:1 K:D ratio in a public server is nothing. Its even nothing in a scrim or match. I garuntee you that you were NOT in the top 5%. A 2:1 K:D with ANY GUN, please don't take what I say out of context... Let's see you go 25-12 with a pump shotty... You seem quite angry that someone who put out 7k for a awp+deagle and took the time to learn how to use them right can take you out, who bought a 1.5k gun and shoots the widest and most accurate range of bullets. Each gun has its advantages and disadvantages, and if you cornerd an awp close range (because a shotty is a close range weapon) you would win (unless you suck). Its quite funny how you think 'awp + deagle' combo ruined the game. *Note: I am not an awp whore, i never use awp. You sure sound like an awp whore... But seriously, the quick switching from DE to AWP, and vice versa is very unrealistic and makes a complete laughingstock out of CS & CS:S. Up close? Do you even play CS? I and other people who have skill can shoot people just fine up close with the AWP, in fact most AWP whores now will just non-scope your ass with a one shot wonder... You sure you eve play CS dude? No game is 100% realistic. Go join the army for realistic sniper/pistol switching. I do play CS, but we play completely different parts of the game. You play a fragfest public server, and i play a competetive tactical part of the game. Saying that great players are bad because they use an AK/carbine or Awp is just freaking rediculous. No, I played in very competitive settings, before CAL even existed... I never said players were bad for using AK or Carbines, again, please don't put words in my mouth... The AK and Carbine are the epitomy of what guns should be used to test true skill... It's only the douschebag AWP whores I am complaining about... Read more... Next, you attack leagues such as CAL. If someone can cheat to get into CPL and other tournaments that offer money, and then actually WIN those tournaments, they were the best in the first place. If you cheat over the internet, then go to a LAN tournament where cheating is impossible, if you dont have the RAW skills, you WONT finish anywhere NEAR the money. CAL does its best to find and ban hackers from the leauge (even though i believe they are way to leniant), and only the best teams in the world will finish in money. (money tournaments will always be over LAN, so its impossible to cheat) Yeah, but to get to the LAN tournaments, you have to play endless amounts of unregulated tourneys on your home PC... Since you cheat your way to the top, this completely invalidates any credibility to righteously winning any cash... I know of clans who use the wallhack through every tourney, own every last team that encounters them, and then barely win a LAN match without their hacks and proceed to the 'money' phase... This eliminates the naturally good players, and totally skews the legitimacy of any contestants... It's rigged by hackers and you know it, sure, they might prevail in the end to win these tourneys, but they are still scumbag cheaters in the end... It still sounds like you went to CAL, got embarassed because you realized you were a PubAllStar, and got pissed at tournament play. Quit trying to say every team cheats to the top, they dont. CAL-M - I players are watched extremely closely, and if you find a cheater you report him, and he gives adminds his demos and they watch him play and make a decision. Id bet that anyone who has earned money playing CSS actual has skills. If you cheat to get to CPL, go there on a LAN and play and totally dominate, you had the skill in the first place to get there. Naw, never messed around in CAL... We did large server competitions, also we played a lot at a local PC cafe that held tourneys too... In regards to the last statement, this is what everyone keeps saying... bottom line is: If you cheated at all during your ascent to playing for $$, your still a worthless hacker in my book... compLexity is 16-0 right now in CAL-I, and have a distinguished resume. Team 3D is 10-6, and is falling behind other teams as of right now. Anyone who thinks these teams hack is honestly just jelous, because all of CAL-I teams have PROVED their skills in person at LAN's ... Yes, all the while whoring the DE/AWP combo, and not even using 5% of the weapons CS:S has to offer... They should change it to 'CS:S DE/AWP Tournaments', this would describe it more accurately. Whine all you want about AWP/DE combos, it just proves what a pubber you are. -NO- self respecting CAL player whines about awps. I am automatic user for my team, and I do just fine versus awps. Pubber? Is this some new slang that has evolved within CS, or are you just making this up as you go along? I do just fine against AWPs, its just that when over half of the players competing are using them, well, it becomes rather stale and one-dimensional... Major fun-factor killer... If you play the game for fun, you shouldnt be worried about hackers in public servers anyways. If you play the game competetivly, you can just do your best and if you honestly think someone is hacking, you may dispute and the admins will look at demos/screenshots/any other evidence and make a decision. I no longer play CS:S... I started competing with clans and started from the very bottom of the CAL ladder, and we caught so many of the teams we were competing against hacking, that we simply gave up... CS:S no longer requires skill, all it requires is the mastery of a handful of weapons, and to know the map like the back of your hand... I prefer BF2 and other games of the like that actually test your FPS know-how and strategy You were definently playing pub servers if you think CS has no strategic value, this is a ignorant statement., not how fast you can switch back and forth from your DE and AWP, that's just plain dumb... You caught so many teams? As in thier cheaters were banned from the league because you proved they were cheating. I doubt you anyone you played in CAL cheated against you, and you guys were just pubbers. I cant tell you how many times we scrim versus people who mainly pub, and they call us hackers, and we dont hack. No, never caught one in fact... We attempted at some entry level scrims and were entertaining the idea of CAL, but we kept getting HS'ed from the other side of the map from a whole team of AWP'ers... How is that fair? We make an attempt at climbing the CAL ladder, only to be unfairly beaten by a hacking team? You may say grin and bear it, I will just play a different game instead.... CS can be strategic... Then again throwing feces at each other requires a certain amount of strategy too, doesn't it? I absolutly love how you say it requires no skill. So I'm guessing the people who earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for playing are just people who put in the 15 minuts to master a couple weapons. Hundreds of thousands a year? I seriously doubt anyone makes that much money off of CS... I didn't say CS overall doesn't require any skill, but rather that the lame combo of AWP/DE DOES NOT REQUIRE SKILL!!! READ WHAT I SAY, THEN SPEAK... I dont know why your so angry with CS, Dis_Ordur. Sounds to be like you were beaten by a lot of teams and just came to the conclusion that "z0mgz everyone hax b3cauz3 i p4wnag3 in BF2 and oth3r gam3z" Angry? Who said I am angry... After seeing the shit I have for over 6 years now with CS, I simply do not have kind words for it... How long have you been playing it? Seriously, I started it 1 year after it was released, and by this time Sierra had literally just acquired it... I have been beaten by a lot of hackers, not only that, but they have told me they hack... Having seen the hacks firsthand and having seen how to load them and play with them discreetly, I simply lost interest... It's like playing a game of hold-em for fun with a rigged deck... I'm sure you have beaten by a lot of hackers, and they all said "Hey Dis_Ordur, I HACKED YOU!!" So what, you had a friend or knew a guy that hacked. You even said yourself that you had been banned from many servers because they thought you were hacking. Were you? Now you understand how much people find it easier to come to the conclusion that the enemy hacked, rather then outsmarted them. I've been playing competetivly for only a year now, but in that time I've only thought ONE team in an official match was hacking. So out of all my CAL experience, ONE team was POSSIBLY a hacking team. Only 1 year huh? You are still a greenhorn, and have much playing and learning to do before you talk smack to a veteran like me... And yes, me getting banned for playing so well is an indicator of the entire goddamned problem, don't you see this? Hacking is rampid in CS and therefore skews the legitimacy of any unregulated tournaments that help gain entry into regulated play... 'Nuff said... In conclusion, "People killed you, you got pissed and called them hackers" Is that all you can come up with? So cliche... I think you would rather generalize what I say, pretend that CS and CS:S is a legitimate form of competition so you can sleep well at night... CS used to be the end all and be all to me, now it isn't fun to play anymore... I couldn't care less if people believe my mastering of CS, I was bringing it up in the context of the discussion...
I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this.
Ok rookie, one more time, please read what I said, 20-0 with a pump shotty on cs_Italy... I like how you talk like you are so down with CAL, and so above everything that I say, yet you have only been playing CS for a year... On the scale of things, you are still getting potty trained little boy, quit making an ass our of yourself...
Originally posted by doobster Seems you just have hostility towards people who are better then you. Acually, no, I fully respect people that have better skills than I, but honestly, with the fact that I can have a 2:1 kill/death ratio with any gun on CS, I was definitely top 5% as far as player ranks went. And if I was using a non-gimpish gun like the AK47 or the Carbine, my ratio would have been more like 5:1. A 2:1 K:D ratio in a public server is nothing. Its even nothing in a scrim or match. I garuntee you that you were NOT in the top 5%. A 2:1 K:D with ANY GUN, please don't take what I say out of context... Let's see you go 25-12 with a pump shotty... You seem quite angry that someone who put out 7k for a awp+deagle and took the time to learn how to use them right can take you out, who bought a 1.5k gun and shoots the widest and most accurate range of bullets. Each gun has its advantages and disadvantages, and if you cornerd an awp close range (because a shotty is a close range weapon) you would win (unless you suck). Its quite funny how you think 'awp + deagle' combo ruined the game. *Note: I am not an awp whore, i never use awp. You sure sound like an awp whore... But seriously, the quick switching from DE to AWP, and vice versa is very unrealistic and makes a complete laughingstock out of CS & CS:S. Up close? Do you even play CS? I and other people who have skill can shoot people just fine up close with the AWP, in fact most AWP whores now will just non-scope your ass with a one shot wonder... You sure you eve play CS dude? No game is 100% realistic. Go join the army for realistic sniper/pistol switching. I do play CS, but we play completely different parts of the game. You play a fragfest public server, and i play a competetive tactical part of the game. Saying that great players are bad because they use an AK/carbine or Awp is just freaking rediculous. No, I played in very competitive settings, before CAL even existed... I never said players were bad for using AK or Carbines, again, please don't put words in my mouth... The AK and Carbine are the epitomy of what guns should be used to test true skill... It's only the douschebag AWP whores I am complaining about... Read more... Next, you attack leagues such as CAL. If someone can cheat to get into CPL and other tournaments that offer money, and then actually WIN those tournaments, they were the best in the first place. If you cheat over the internet, then go to a LAN tournament where cheating is impossible, if you dont have the RAW skills, you WONT finish anywhere NEAR the money. CAL does its best to find and ban hackers from the leauge (even though i believe they are way to leniant), and only the best teams in the world will finish in money. (money tournaments will always be over LAN, so its impossible to cheat) Yeah, but to get to the LAN tournaments, you have to play endless amounts of unregulated tourneys on your home PC... Since you cheat your way to the top, this completely invalidates any credibility to righteously winning any cash... I know of clans who use the wallhack through every tourney, own every last team that encounters them, and then barely win a LAN match without their hacks and proceed to the 'money' phase... This eliminates the naturally good players, and totally skews the legitimacy of any contestants... It's rigged by hackers and you know it, sure, they might prevail in the end to win these tourneys, but they are still scumbag cheaters in the end... It still sounds like you went to CAL, got embarassed because you realized you were a PubAllStar, and got pissed at tournament play. Quit trying to say every team cheats to the top, they dont. CAL-M - I players are watched extremely closely, and if you find a cheater you report him, and he gives adminds his demos and they watch him play and make a decision. Id bet that anyone who has earned money playing CSS actual has skills. If you cheat to get to CPL, go there on a LAN and play and totally dominate, you had the skill in the first place to get there. Naw, never messed around in CAL... We did large server competitions, also we played a lot at a local PC cafe that held tourneys too... In regards to the last statement, this is what everyone keeps saying... bottom line is: If you cheated at all during your ascent to playing for $$, your still a worthless hacker in my book... compLexity is 16-0 right now in CAL-I, and have a distinguished resume. Team 3D is 10-6, and is falling behind other teams as of right now. Anyone who thinks these teams hack is honestly just jelous, because all of CAL-I teams have PROVED their skills in person at LAN's ... Yes, all the while whoring the DE/AWP combo, and not even using 5% of the weapons CS:S has to offer... They should change it to 'CS:S DE/AWP Tournaments', this would describe it more accurately. Whine all you want about AWP/DE combos, it just proves what a pubber you are. -NO- self respecting CAL player whines about awps. I am automatic user for my team, and I do just fine versus awps. Pubber? Is this some new slang that has evolved within CS, or are you just making this up as you go along? I do just fine against AWPs, its just that when over half of the players competing are using them, well, it becomes rather stale and one-dimensional... Major fun-factor killer... If you play the game for fun, you shouldnt be worried about hackers in public servers anyways. If you play the game competetivly, you can just do your best and if you honestly think someone is hacking, you may dispute and the admins will look at demos/screenshots/any other evidence and make a decision. I no longer play CS:S... I started competing with clans and started from the very bottom of the CAL ladder, and we caught so many of the teams we were competing against hacking, that we simply gave up... CS:S no longer requires skill, all it requires is the mastery of a handful of weapons, and to know the map like the back of your hand... I prefer BF2 and other games of the like that actually test your FPS know-how and strategy You were definently playing pub servers if you think CS has no strategic value, this is a ignorant statement., not how fast you can switch back and forth from your DE and AWP, that's just plain dumb... You caught so many teams? As in thier cheaters were banned from the league because you proved they were cheating. I doubt you anyone you played in CAL cheated against you, and you guys were just pubbers. I cant tell you how many times we scrim versus people who mainly pub, and they call us hackers, and we dont hack. No, never caught one in fact... We attempted at some entry level scrims and were entertaining the idea of CAL, but we kept getting HS'ed from the other side of the map from a whole team of AWP'ers... How is that fair? We make an attempt at climbing the CAL ladder, only to be unfairly beaten by a hacking team? You may say grin and bear it, I will just play a different game instead.... CS can be strategic... Then again throwing feces at each other requires a certain amount of strategy too, doesn't it? I absolutly love how you say it requires no skill. So I'm guessing the people who earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for playing are just people who put in the 15 minuts to master a couple weapons. Hundreds of thousands a year? I seriously doubt anyone makes that much money off of CS... I didn't say CS overall doesn't require any skill, but rather that the lame combo of AWP/DE DOES NOT REQUIRE SKILL!!! READ WHAT I SAY, THEN SPEAK... I dont know why your so angry with CS, Dis_Ordur. Sounds to be like you were beaten by a lot of teams and just came to the conclusion that "z0mgz everyone hax b3cauz3 i p4wnag3 in BF2 and oth3r gam3z" Angry? Who said I am angry... After seeing the shit I have for over 6 years now with CS, I simply do not have kind words for it... How long have you been playing it? Seriously, I started it 1 year after it was released, and by this time Sierra had literally just acquired it... I have been beaten by a lot of hackers, not only that, but they have told me they hack... Having seen the hacks firsthand and having seen how to load them and play with them discreetly, I simply lost interest... It's like playing a game of hold-em for fun with a rigged deck... I'm sure you have beaten by a lot of hackers, and they all said "Hey Dis_Ordur, I HACKED YOU!!" So what, you had a friend or knew a guy that hacked. You even said yourself that you had been banned from many servers because they thought you were hacking. Were you? Now you understand how much people find it easier to come to the conclusion that the enemy hacked, rather then outsmarted them. I've been playing competetivly for only a year now, but in that time I've only thought ONE team in an official match was hacking. So out of all my CAL experience, ONE team was POSSIBLY a hacking team. Only 1 year huh? You are still a greenhorn, and have much playing and learning to do before you talk smack to a veteran like me... And yes, me getting banned for playing so well is an indicator of the entire goddamned problem, don't you see this? Hacking is rampid in CS and therefore skews the legitimacy of any unregulated tournaments that help gain entry into regulated play... 'Nuff said... In conclusion, "People killed you, you got pissed and called them hackers" Is that all you can come up with? So cliche... I think you would rather generalize what I say, pretend that CS and CS:S is a legitimate form of competition so you can sleep well at night... CS used to be the end all and be all to me, now it isn't fun to play anymore... I couldn't care less if people believe my mastering of CS, I was bringing it up in the context of the discussion...
I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this. Ok rookie, one more time, please read what I said, 20-0 with a pump shotty on cs_Italy... I like how you talk like you are so down with CAL, and so above everything that I say, yet you have only been playing CS for a year... On the scale of things, you are still getting potty trained little boy, quit making an ass our of yourself...
ok, i think you need to stfu now dis_ordur. you keep saying how this gun sucks and cal-i only use 5% of guns, while you can own "noobs" with a pump on italy. first thing, everyone is laughing at you cause you think your good cause you used a pump. so many guns better than it and players rather use those guns than lose with ur precious pump. to WIN you must use the BEST equipment you can buy. right now your only rying to make your self look good with all your pride talk. if the whole team needs to use awps to win then so be it. learn to deal with it or just dont play cs at all, which i think you dont and if you dont plz stfu.with your kinda additude you wont make it anywhere, not like you want to anyway. so get back to your mmorpgs and super casual bf2 and stfu plz, while some of us can get back to making a few bucks at tournaments and have fun.
i think the admins need to close this topic now, getting out of hand and means absolutly nothing in the end. plus cs has nothing to do with mmo's. people plz keep this in the valve forums.
Originally posted by doobster Seems you just have hostility towards people who are better then you. Acually, no, I fully respect people that have better skills than I, but honestly, with the fact that I can have a 2:1 kill/death ratio with any gun on CS, I was definitely top 5% as far as player ranks went. And if I was using a non-gimpish gun like the AK47 or the Carbine, my ratio would have been more like 5:1. A 2:1 K:D ratio in a public server is nothing. Its even nothing in a scrim or match. I garuntee you that you were NOT in the top 5%. A 2:1 K:D with ANY GUN, please don't take what I say out of context... Let's see you go 25-12 with a pump shotty... It doesnt matter with what gun you go with. If your in a public server it doesnt matter if you using a glock. A K:D ratio is a K:D ration, it doesnt distinguish between guns, and if you think you were good because you were able to kill 20 pubbers with a shotgun, as you say, whatever allows you to sleep well at night. You seem quite angry that someone who put out 7k for a awp+deagle and took the time to learn how to use them right can take you out, who bought a 1.5k gun and shoots the widest and most accurate range of bullets. Each gun has its advantages and disadvantages, and if you cornerd an awp close range (because a shotty is a close range weapon) you would win (unless you suck). Its quite funny how you think 'awp + deagle' combo ruined the game. *Note: I am not an awp whore, i never use awp. You sure sound like an awp whore... But seriously, the quick switching from DE to AWP, and vice versa is very unrealistic and makes a complete laughingstock out of CS & CS:S. Up close? Do you even play CS? I and other people who have skill can shoot people just fine up close with the AWP, in fact most AWP whores now will just non-scope your ass with a one shot wonder... You sure you eve play CS dude? No game is 100% realistic. Go join the army for realistic sniper/pistol switching. I do play CS, but we play completely different parts of the game. You play a fragfest public server, and i play a competetive tactical part of the game. Saying that great players are bad because they use an AK/carbine or Awp is just freaking rediculous. No, I played in very competitive settings, before CAL even existed... I never said players were bad for using AK or Carbines, again, please don't put words in my mouth... The AK and Carbine are the epitomy of what guns should be used to test true skill... It's only the douschebag AWP whores I am complaining about... Read more... You did, please enlighten me, what competitive settings did you play? I dont doubt that you played competitivly, but you have yet to say where. AWPs are part of the game, if you cant deal with it, then it is best that you quit. Next, you attack leagues such as CAL. If someone can cheat to get into CPL and other tournaments that offer money, and then actually WIN those tournaments, they were the best in the first place. If you cheat over the internet, then go to a LAN tournament where cheating is impossible, if you dont have the RAW skills, you WONT finish anywhere NEAR the money. CAL does its best to find and ban hackers from the leauge (even though i believe they are way to leniant), and only the best teams in the world will finish in money. (money tournaments will always be over LAN, so its impossible to cheat) Yeah, but to get to the LAN tournaments, you have to play endless amounts of unregulated tourneys on your home PC... Since you cheat your way to the top, this completely invalidates any credibility to righteously winning any cash... I know of clans who use the wallhack through every tourney, own every last team that encounters them, and then barely win a LAN match without their hacks and proceed to the 'money' phase... This eliminates the naturally good players, and totally skews the legitimacy of any contestants... It's rigged by hackers and you know it, sure, they might prevail in the end to win these tourneys, but they are still scumbag cheaters in the end... It still sounds like you went to CAL, got embarassed because you realized you were a PubAllStar, and got pissed at tournament play. Quit trying to say every team cheats to the top, they dont. CAL-M - I players are watched extremely closely, and if you find a cheater you report him, and he gives adminds his demos and they watch him play and make a decision. Id bet that anyone who has earned money playing CSS actual has skills. If you cheat to get to CPL, go there on a LAN and play and totally dominate, you had the skill in the first place to get there. Naw, never messed around in CAL... We did large server competitions, also we played a lot at a local PC cafe that held tourneys too... In regards to the last statement, this is what everyone keeps saying... bottom line is: If you cheated at all during your ascent to playing for $$, your still a worthless hacker in my book... All of the competition you played in doesnt even come close to what CAL offers. Any team with any sort of skill is predominently in CAL. You wont find big names in local cafes or "large server competitions". I am also not saying that you WOULDNT be a hacker if you cheated on your ascent. I think its wrong to cheat in the ascent and everything like that. But if you had the skill to win it without cheating, then you are good. You cant argue that. If you can get 4 friends and beat compLexity, it doenst matter how your match between them came to be, you would be the best team in the world. compLexity is 16-0 right now in CAL-I, and have a distinguished resume. Team 3D is 10-6, and is falling behind other teams as of right now. Anyone who thinks these teams hack is honestly just jelous, because all of CAL-I teams have PROVED their skills in person at LAN's ... Yes, all the while whoring the DE/AWP combo, and not even using 5% of the weapons CS:S has to offer... They should change it to 'CS:S DE/AWP Tournaments', this would describe it more accurately. Whine all you want about AWP/DE combos, it just proves what a pubber you are. -NO- self respecting CAL player whines about awps. I am automatic user for my team, and I do just fine versus awps. Pubber? Is this some new slang that has evolved within CS, or are you just making this up as you go along? I do just fine against AWPs, its just that when over half of the players competing are using them, well, it becomes rather stale and one-dimensional... Major fun-factor killer... Not sure where the term came from, I use it to refer to a person who plays public servers predominently. I was in your shoes myself, played CS for years and years since before 1.6, to the point where i thought i was in the top 5% of people, and thought i was good. After that I joined a competitive team and was completely humbled by how good people can be. If you cant take a team shutting down a map with awps, then you shouldnt be playing the game. People who bitch about gun choice can leave, which is what you did, i can respect that. If you play the game for fun, you shouldnt be worried about hackers in public servers anyways. If you play the game competetivly, you can just do your best and if you honestly think someone is hacking, you may dispute and the admins will look at demos/screenshots/any other evidence and make a decision. I no longer play CS:S... I started competing with clans and started from the very bottom of the CAL ladder, and we caught so many of the teams we were competing against hacking, that we simply gave up... CS:S no longer requires skill, all it requires is the mastery of a handful of weapons, and to know the map like the back of your hand... I prefer BF2 and other games of the like that actually test your FPS know-how and strategy You were definently playing pub servers if you think CS has no strategic value, this is a ignorant statement., not how fast you can switch back and forth from your DE and AWP, that's just plain dumb... You caught so many teams? As in thier cheaters were banned from the league because you proved they were cheating. I doubt you anyone you played in CAL cheated against you, and you guys were just pubbers. I cant tell you how many times we scrim versus people who mainly pub, and they call us hackers, and we dont hack. No, never caught one in fact... We attempted at some entry level scrims and were entertaining the idea of CAL, but we kept getting HS'ed from the other side of the map from a whole team of AWP'ers... How is that fair? We make an attempt at climbing the CAL ladder, only to be unfairly beaten by a hacking team? You may say grin and bear it, I will just play a different game instead.... CS can be strategic... Then again throwing feces at each other requires a certain amount of strategy too, doesn't it? Now that you even clarify your hacking claims, I find them even MORE bullshit. You think a team aimbotted you? That is funny. I thought you were talking about discrete hacks, not a aimbot from across the map. I can respect the fact that you quit the game because you didnt like AWPs, but when you come to a thread and totally put down the best team in the world is another thing. Again, if you played CAL or on a strategic team, you would understand. Yes, a public server is about as strategic as throwing feces. I absolutly love how you say it requires no skill. So I'm guessing the people who earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for playing are just people who put in the 15 minuts to master a couple weapons. Hundreds of thousands a year? I seriously doubt anyone makes that much money off of CS... I didn't say CS overall doesn't require any skill, but rather that the lame combo of AWP/DE DOES NOT REQUIRE SKILL!!! READ WHAT I SAY, THEN SPEAK... The AWP/DE combo takes JUST as much skill as any gun. Why would a team just carbines in a map where a AWP is more strategic/useful. You seem to be completely missing the strategic aspect of the game, and just want a big map where everyone uses carbines. I challenge you to pick up an awp/de combo and challenge a known team. Saying the AWP/DE combo takes no skill is completely ignorant. I dont know why your so angry with CS, Dis_Ordur. Sounds to be like you were beaten by a lot of teams and just came to the conclusion that "z0mgz everyone hax b3cauz3 i p4wnag3 in BF2 and oth3r gam3z" Angry? Who said I am angry... After seeing the shit I have for over 6 years now with CS, I simply do not have kind words for it... How long have you been playing it? Seriously, I started it 1 year after it was released, and by this time Sierra had literally just acquired it... I have been beaten by a lot of hackers, not only that, but they have told me they hack... Having seen the hacks firsthand and having seen how to load them and play with them discreetly, I simply lost interest... It's like playing a game of hold-em for fun with a rigged deck... I'm sure you have beaten by a lot of hackers, and they all said "Hey Dis_Ordur, I HACKED YOU!!" So what, you had a friend or knew a guy that hacked. You even said yourself that you had been banned from many servers because they thought you were hacking. Were you? Now you understand how much people find it easier to come to the conclusion that the enemy hacked, rather then outsmarted them. I've been playing competetivly for only a year now, but in that time I've only thought ONE team in an official match was hacking. So out of all my CAL experience, ONE team was POSSIBLY a hacking team. Only 1 year huh? You are still a greenhorn, and have much playing and learning to do before you talk smack to a veteran like me... And yes, me getting banned for playing so well is an indicator of the entire goddamned problem, don't you see this? Hacking is rampid in CS and therefore skews the legitimacy of any unregulated tournaments that help gain entry into regulated play... 'Nuff said... 1 Year playing in CAL ... Ive played CS before 1.6, and played on a competetive Condition Zero team. The fact that after all this time your still bitching about AWP whores compeltely nulls. I dont think you see the problem that accusations of hacking is as much or more of a problem then actual hacking. You werent hacking in those pubs ,and got banned because they thought you were. People you competeted against werent hacking, when you thought they were. if you lose to a team of awpers, say good game and move on, dont bitch about them awping. The only people ive seen bitch about awpers were public players. I dont care if you would rather play BF2 then CS, fine, just dont come here and whine because you were beaten by some AWPs. In conclusion, "People killed you, you got pissed and called them hackers" Is that all you can come up with? So cliche... I think you would rather generalize what I say, pretend that CS and CS:S is a legitimate form of competition so you can sleep well at night... CS used to be the end all and be all to me, now it isn't fun to play anymore... I couldn't care less if people believe my mastering of CS, I was bringing it up in the context of the discussion... That is all i can come up with beacuse thats all you've said. You've written a whole lot of nothing just complaining about AWP. AWP takes just as much skill to master as other guns. You've just never seen anyone with skill use it.
I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this.
Ok rookie, one more time, please read what I said, 20-0 with a pump shotty on cs_Italy... I like how you talk like you are so down with CAL, and so above everything that I say, yet you have only been playing CS for a year... On the scale of things, you are still getting potty trained little boy, quit making an ass our of yourself...
I've been playing just as long as you. Italy isnt even a competetive map (because its not de_) and a shotgun wouldnt do shit against a team with skill. A public score means nothing.
Dis_ordur, please take your pride and "mastering of CS" and cram it. It seems like you skipped my posts on purpose and repeated the same things I lectured you on. A pump shotty isn't the hardest gun in the world to use, but it is simply not good enough to be used in a competitive setting. It doesn't 1-hit kill unless if you are up close or you get lucky and get a headshot. If you can't kill someone within 1-2 seconds in a competitive setting, consider yourself dead. Getting 20-0 in CS_ITALY, even with a pump, doesn't mean crap.
Ok, I've played CS for about 3 months and I have yet to get annoyed by anybody using AWP's, I have yet to get mad at anybody that uses them. And Dis_ordur you say this combo uses ZERO skill. Using a weapon where you only have one chance to hit the majority of the time takes some skill and practice.Also everytime somebody makes a good point like Xzaro you just ignore them then everytime sombody disagrees with you get all defensive and make it seem like they were personally attacking you. Seems to me like you are jealous of people who are simply better then you at a game so you attack them with all guns blazing saying that they are hackers and such. Killing 2 people with one bullet takes practice weather you belive it or not. I have a feeling you arnt nearly as good as you say you are. Getting 20-0 with a shotty isnt anything special I have seen much better in my short 3 months of play. You are full of yourself Dis_ordur there are 100's of people that are better at you at CS. You wont admit it obviusly but they are better then you deal with it
Yeah, they are all god-like. The AWPer is really good, as you might have been able to tell he knows where you need to shoot with an AWP while moving to hit the person. The two kill with one shot is really amazing and timed perfectly, at such a close range, too. I've gotten lucky before and killed 2 with one AWP shot, but that was from far away.
There is truly a lot of strategy and teamwork involved to win that kind of tournament. I'd say creating such an awesome teamwork in a video game is equally hard as creating teamwork in a real sport.
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I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this.
I haven't played CS for years, but I used to be pretty good and my clan got the chance to play against some of the best teams in the UK ( 4k, team AMD, choke etc).
And honestly there was very little in terms of personal skill between myself and some of the top players, the difference between a half decent amateur and a professional comes in teamwork and tactics, not how good a shot you are.
I cant believe all the BS about cheaters, yes a lot of people cheat of public servers, who cares? and I know you occasionally get cheaters in tourneys but its a lot rarer than you think, in all of the tournaments I've played in, if there was even the slightest suspicion of cheating, both sides had to send all their demos in to and admin to have them looked over for hacks. To say that half the clans in any big tournament cheat is ridiculous, if you can see that they're cheating then they're already going to be kicked out, if the admins cant tell, why do you think that your qualified to say?
WoW, your all making a big deal from this awp/deagle. k so i can say im cal-p material and people a kill is a kill. who cares if he used the awp, your only objective is to win the match and if you need to use a gun like that then so be it.
scout,shotty,ump,p90,dealies all these guns are bad in competative play cause you need like 2-10 shots to kill someone. awp/deagle combo is the way to go, 1) if you miss with your awp shot and a guy is running up to you, you can easily pop him in the face with 1 shot deagle(if your good) 2) your not afraid to run around the map with a deagle in ur hand, in ALOT of situation using the deagle than the awp is way better.
this means nothing, but this guy is like "my best streak is 20-0" pubs are so noob, my best streak in a random pub was 100+/3. after the server was getting tired of me they got the admin and banned me. almost everytime i play a pub i get people calling me hacker. my biggest streak in a week of getting banned was 13 servers. i dont hack,never have, never even loaded a hack, i dont even use cheats in adventure games. i have been in cal for years, my team has been disputed for hacks many times in cal-o. so i for 1 can say that there alot lots of hackers but sometimes is rare that they are. especially in competition. pub are so stupid as soon they see someone doing really good, they assume a hacker and ban him right away.
so dont pub, go to #findringer and play.
I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this.
Originally posted by Dis_Ordur
Originally posted by doobster
Originally posted by Dis_Ordur
Originally posted by doobster
Seems you just have hostility towards people who are better then you.
Acually, no, I fully respect people that have better skills than I, but honestly, with the fact that I can have a 2:1 kill/death ratio with any gun on CS, I was definitely top 5% as far as player ranks went. And if I was using a non-gimpish gun like the AK47 or the Carbine, my ratio would have been more like 5:1.
A 2:1 K:D ratio in a public server is nothing. Its even nothing in a scrim or match. I garuntee you that you were NOT in the top 5%.
A 2:1 K:D with ANY GUN, please don't take what I say out of context... Let's see you go 25-12 with a pump shotty...
You seem quite angry that someone who put out 7k for a awp+deagle and took the time to learn how to use them right can take you out, who bought a 1.5k gun and shoots the widest and most accurate range of bullets. Each gun has its advantages and disadvantages, and if you cornerd an awp close range (because a shotty is a close range weapon) you would win (unless you suck). Its quite funny how you think 'awp + deagle' combo ruined the game. *Note: I am not an awp whore, i never use awp.
You sure sound like an awp whore... But seriously, the quick switching from DE to AWP, and vice versa is very unrealistic and makes a complete laughingstock out of CS & CS:S. Up close? Do you even play CS? I and other people who have skill can shoot people just fine up close with the AWP, in fact most AWP whores now will just non-scope your ass with a one shot wonder... You sure you eve play CS dude?
No game is 100% realistic. Go join the army for realistic sniper/pistol switching.
I do play CS, but we play completely different parts of the game. You play a fragfest public server, and i play a competetive tactical part of the game. Saying that great players are bad because they use an AK/carbine or Awp is just freaking rediculous.
No, I played in very competitive settings, before CAL even existed... I never said players were bad for using AK or Carbines, again, please don't put words in my mouth... The AK and Carbine are the epitomy of what guns should be used to test true skill... It's only the douschebag AWP whores I am complaining about... Read more...
Next, you attack leagues such as CAL. If someone can cheat to get into CPL and other tournaments that offer money, and then actually WIN those tournaments, they were the best in the first place. If you cheat over the internet, then go to a LAN tournament where cheating is impossible, if you dont have the RAW skills, you WONT finish anywhere NEAR the money. CAL does its best to find and ban hackers from the leauge (even though i believe they are way to leniant), and only the best teams in the world will finish in money. (money tournaments will always be over LAN, so its impossible to cheat)
Yeah, but to get to the LAN tournaments, you have to play endless amounts of unregulated tourneys on your home PC... Since you cheat your way to the top, this completely invalidates any credibility to righteously winning any cash... I know of clans who use the wallhack through every tourney, own every last team that encounters them, and then barely win a LAN match without their hacks and proceed to the 'money' phase... This eliminates the naturally good players, and totally skews the legitimacy of any contestants... It's rigged by hackers and you know it, sure, they might prevail in the end to win these tourneys, but they are still scumbag cheaters in the end...
It still sounds like you went to CAL, got embarassed because you realized you were a PubAllStar, and got pissed at tournament play. Quit trying to say every team cheats to the top, they dont. CAL-M - I players are watched extremely closely, and if you find a cheater you report him, and he gives adminds his demos and they watch him play and make a decision. Id bet that anyone who has earned money playing CSS actual has skills. If you cheat to get to CPL, go there on a LAN and play and totally dominate, you had the skill in the first place to get there.
Naw, never messed around in CAL... We did large server competitions, also we played a lot at a local PC cafe that held tourneys too... In regards to the last statement, this is what everyone keeps saying... bottom line is: If you cheated at all during your ascent to playing for $$, your still a worthless hacker in my book...
compLexity is 16-0 right now in CAL-I, and have a distinguished resume. Team 3D is 10-6, and is falling behind other teams as of right now. Anyone who thinks these teams hack is honestly just jelous, because all of CAL-I teams have PROVED their skills in person at LAN's ...
Yes, all the while whoring the DE/AWP combo, and not even using 5% of the weapons CS:S has to offer... They should change it to 'CS:S DE/AWP Tournaments', this would describe it more accurately.
Whine all you want about AWP/DE combos, it just proves what a pubber you are. -NO- self respecting CAL player whines about awps. I am automatic user for my team, and I do just fine versus awps.
Pubber? Is this some new slang that has evolved within CS, or are you just making this up as you go along? I do just fine against AWPs, its just that when over half of the players competing are using them, well, it becomes rather stale and one-dimensional... Major fun-factor killer...
If you play the game for fun, you shouldnt be worried about hackers in public servers anyways. If you play the game competetivly, you can just do your best and if you honestly think someone is hacking, you may dispute and the admins will look at demos/screenshots/any other evidence and make a decision.
I no longer play CS:S... I started competing with clans and started from the very bottom of the CAL ladder, and we caught so many of the teams we were competing against hacking, that we simply gave up... CS:S no longer requires skill, all it requires is the mastery of a handful of weapons, and to know the map like the back of your hand... I prefer BF2 and other games of the like that actually test your FPS know-how and strategy You were definently playing pub servers if you think CS has no strategic value, this is a ignorant statement., not how fast you can switch back and forth from your DE and AWP, that's just plain dumb...
You caught so many teams? As in thier cheaters were banned from the league because you proved they were cheating. I doubt you anyone you played in CAL cheated against you, and you guys were just pubbers. I cant tell you how many times we scrim versus people who mainly pub, and they call us hackers, and we dont hack.
No, never caught one in fact... We attempted at some entry level scrims and were entertaining the idea of CAL, but we kept getting HS'ed from the other side of the map from a whole team of AWP'ers... How is that fair? We make an attempt at climbing the CAL ladder, only to be unfairly beaten by a hacking team? You may say grin and bear it, I will just play a different game instead.... CS can be strategic... Then again throwing feces at each other requires a certain amount of strategy too, doesn't it?
I absolutly love how you say it requires no skill. So I'm guessing the people who earn hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for playing are just people who put in the 15 minuts to master a couple weapons.
Hundreds of thousands a year? I seriously doubt anyone makes that much money off of CS... I didn't say CS overall doesn't require any skill, but rather that the lame combo of AWP/DE DOES NOT REQUIRE SKILL!!! READ WHAT I SAY, THEN SPEAK...
I dont know why your so angry with CS, Dis_Ordur. Sounds to be like you were beaten by a lot of teams and just came to the conclusion that "z0mgz everyone hax b3cauz3 i p4wnag3 in BF2 and oth3r gam3z"
Angry? Who said I am angry... After seeing the shit I have for over 6 years now with CS, I simply do not have kind words for it... How long have you been playing it? Seriously, I started it 1 year after it was released, and by this time Sierra had literally just acquired it... I have been beaten by a lot of hackers, not only that, but they have told me they hack... Having seen the hacks firsthand and having seen how to load them and play with them discreetly, I simply lost interest... It's like playing a game of hold-em for fun with a rigged deck...
I'm sure you have beaten by a lot of hackers, and they all said "Hey Dis_Ordur, I HACKED YOU!!" So what, you had a friend or knew a guy that hacked.
You even said yourself that you had been banned from many servers because they thought you were hacking. Were you? Now you understand how much people find it easier to come to the conclusion that the enemy hacked, rather then outsmarted them. I've been playing competetivly for only a year now, but in that time I've only thought ONE team in an official match was hacking. So out of all my CAL experience, ONE team was POSSIBLY a hacking team.
Only 1 year huh? You are still a greenhorn, and have much playing and learning to do before you talk smack to a veteran like me... And yes, me getting banned for playing so well is an indicator of the entire goddamned problem, don't you see this? Hacking is rampid in CS and therefore skews the legitimacy of any unregulated tournaments that help gain entry into regulated play... 'Nuff said...
In conclusion, "People killed you, you got pissed and called them hackers"
Is that all you can come up with? So cliche... I think you would rather generalize what I say, pretend that CS and CS:S is a legitimate form of competition so you can sleep well at night... CS used to be the end all and be all to me, now it isn't fun to play anymore... I couldn't care less if people believe my mastering of CS, I was bringing it up in the context of the discussion...
I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this.
Ok rookie, one more time, please read what I said, 20-0 with a pump shotty on cs_Italy... I like how you talk like you are so down with CAL, and so above everything that I say, yet you have only been playing CS for a year... On the scale of things, you are still getting potty trained little boy, quit making an ass our of yourself...
ok, i think you need to stfu now dis_ordur. you keep saying how this gun sucks and cal-i only use 5% of guns, while you can own "noobs" with a pump on italy. first thing, everyone is laughing at you cause you think your good cause you used a pump. so many guns better than it and players rather use those guns than lose with ur precious pump. to WIN you must use the BEST equipment you can buy. right now your only rying to make your self look good with all your pride talk.
if the whole team needs to use awps to win then so be it. learn to deal with it or just dont play cs at all, which i think you dont and if you dont plz stfu.with your kinda additude you wont make it anywhere, not like you want to anyway. so get back to your mmorpgs and super casual bf2 and stfu plz, while some of us can get back to making a few bucks at tournaments and have fun.
I also love how you were like z0mg i went 20-0 on Italy. Anyone in CAL would laugh at you for saying this.
Dis_ordur, please take your pride and "mastering of CS" and cram it. It seems like you skipped my posts on purpose and repeated the same things I lectured you on. A pump shotty isn't the hardest gun in the world to use, but it is simply not good enough to be used in a competitive setting. It doesn't 1-hit kill unless if you are up close or you get lucky and get a headshot. If you can't kill someone within 1-2 seconds in a competitive setting, consider yourself dead. Getting 20-0 in CS_ITALY, even with a pump, doesn't mean crap.
Ok, I've played CS for about 3 months and I have yet to get annoyed by anybody using AWP's, I have yet to get mad at anybody that uses them. And Dis_ordur you say this combo uses ZERO skill. Using a weapon where you only have one chance to hit the majority of the time takes some skill and practice.Also everytime somebody makes a good point like Xzaro you just ignore them then everytime sombody disagrees with you get all defensive and make it seem like they were personally attacking you. Seems to me like you are jealous of people who are simply better then you at a game so you attack them with all guns blazing saying that they are hackers and such. Killing 2 people with one bullet takes practice weather you belive it or not. I have a feeling you arnt nearly as good as you say you are. Getting 20-0 with a shotty isnt anything special I have seen much better in my short 3 months of play. You are full of yourself Dis_ordur there are 100's of people that are better at you at CS. You wont admit it obviusly but they are better then you deal with it
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Yeah, they are all god-like. The AWPer is really good, as you might have been able to tell he knows where you need to shoot with an AWP while moving to hit the person. The two kill with one shot is really amazing and timed perfectly, at such a close range, too. I've gotten lucky before and killed 2 with one AWP shot, but that was from far away.
There is truly a lot of strategy and teamwork involved to win that kind of tournament. I'd say creating such an awesome teamwork in a video game is equally hard as creating teamwork in a real sport.