I must say I'm not going to pre-order this current 59,99USD offer of NP3. The two reasons for that are quite simple :
1. not enough information.
I can not see the thing I'm paying money for in action. I believe I've seen about 10 minutes worth of film and a whole lot of screenshots. Just searching for those videos hoping to catch a glimpse of gameplay took me hours of my time. I don't play games for graphics, my current mmorpg is a 2D one and I play it for it's gameplay. There's lots of lore to the game that has been done, wonderful, but it tells me nothing on what I'll enjoy in the game. I will be playing SoG to get that information and if it lives up to my expectations will probably buy DnL (if a dd option for final version exists). However the developpers don't seem confident enough to let us one day of prelude("beta")-play before pre-order. I don't know how many of you imagine being able to access SoG on Dec 8th and preorder but I can assure you that it won't be possible with this offer.
2. Pricing
When I go into a store and take a look at the games on the shelves (ready for play) not even one of them is as expensive as that. To say you'll get 1 month of free play as an advantage is pure nonsense as every other boxed mmorpg has a free month of play included in the box. Gold version of a game that isn't even out yet you say ? Ofcourse the advantages offered are great, when DnL comes out it will be those 8881 people who will be able to own a fortress as they will be the only ones with a sufficient nobility title, they will have a nice item and plenty of money. That is not to mention the benefits during SoG and the fact that you get to see the game first (aka testing the servers). Are these advantages worth 59,99 USD ? Not to me. I don't cheat or buy items for rl cash in online games so this holds nothing of great interest.
I wouldn't be surprized to see a second downpriced unlimited pre-order offer. After all a company is not going to spit on money people are willing to pay. I still have my hopes up for this game, not pre-ordering however is a question of my confidence in NPCube and AD. As they have shown now, they are not worth that 59,99USD of confidence. Anyhow good luck to all of you who do pre-order because as been said before there will be 8881 people that will buy this within the first day no matter what the nay-sayers say or do. There's probably somewhere around 500,000 people following this title, it doesn't take a register on the AD forum to follow the game. We are gaming enthusiasts never forget that those voicing an opinion are just a small percentage of the market.
Here is the bottom line. I go over to my local EB store and reserve a copy of a game and put 20 skins down on it, then the game company goes bankrupt, the game gets canceled or whatever. I still have 20 bucks that I can spend on a bunch of other games. I put down 60 on DnL and NP3 cancels DnL , I am then out 60 dollars. While 60 Dollars would not bankrupt me I do not like to feel as if I have been ripped off, screwed or shafted.
i can honestly say that i am skeptical about this pre ordering. They end it right when SoG starts. You basically don't get to try it and then buy it, you HAVE to pay before even playing it to get the features at DnL release. I don't think i will pre order, even though i was very positive about this game. I will try SoG and if it is good then i will buy it when it comes out. I would rather keep sixty dollars for an xbox 360 game then to pre order a game i haven't even played, or have any strong information of.
Originally posted by mugboy312 i can honestly say that i am skeptical about this pre ordering. They end it right when SoG starts. You basically don't get to try it and then buy it, you HAVE to pay before even playing it to get the features at DnL release. I don't think i will pre order, even though i was very positive about this game. I will try SoG and if it is good then i will buy it when it comes out. I would rather keep sixty dollars for an xbox 360 game then to pre order a game i haven't even played, or have any strong information of.
Now this is a surprise, you were one of the games strongest supporters. What happened you get into beta? That reminds me anyone seen Birdseeds lately, she is not posting here or over on their main board either lately?
Originally posted by Jackdog Now this is a surprise, you were one of the games strongest supporters. What happened you get into beta? That reminds me anyone seen Birdseeds lately, she is not posting here or over on their main board either lately?
i never entered beta, but this move alone seems suspicious. I am still a supporter of the game, but a sixty dollar (american) pre order to gain a few features beyond the original game? As i mentioned before, the pre ordering ends the day before SoG starts, which also leads to my suspicion. I will still try SoG, and still believe in many of it's features and what NPCube is trying to do. I just won't pre order
Originally posted by -Inferno- Just in case they delete this off the official forums, here's a post by "FelonyArson", which I agree with:
Sorry guys, I'm laying DnL to rest (very long)
I followed DnL for several of the last months since I first heard about the game from a friend that was accepted to beta at the time. In the months leading up to now I have observed how news and information have panned out and how NP3/AD have handled the community and development of the game. When a small portion of players began to come to the table with suspicions of things like stealing software, and even the crackpot theories of the game not even existing, I decided to dig a little deeper into the game developers and the company. I always prefer my own research to the opinions of others, so this is what I did. NP3 (www.npcube.com) is not a game company, they are a software engine development company. They have zero prior experience in publishing a single public product relating to gaming prior to work in Dark and Light. Their website is simple and straighforward and contains very little information on the company, its members, its prior experience, and repertoire. The company is located off the eastern coast of Africa and has fewer than 50 employees. The company was formed in 2002 with a very limited number of employees working off the prior experience of 5 key founding members. These are just the facts. NP3s first project has been Dark and Light and any accomplishments or merit for the company are derived soley from what is contained in this project. AD, or Alchemic Dream (www.AlchemicDream.net) was formed in 2001 in Canada. AD's services include many varied facets of managing and maintaining various aspects of MMORPGs. Their resume is also limited in scope and includes games mostly unknown to common gamers. AD provides a sort of "contracted" form of services that most development companies provide for themselves. AD would be best utilized to provide services for a company that either does not have the resources, experience, or money to provide for themselves. Having summarized these two companies in short paragraphs let me get back to how this relates at all to my post or how I feel. Quite simply, I do not have the faith in DnL that the developers are asking of us all with the pre-order process for DnL and how the details surrounding SoG and the Pioneer program are being implimented. I do not expect a company to allow me to play or test their game before I buy it, but I do expect a company to provide me with enough information to feel confident in making this "leap of faith" into paying for a product months in advance that may be delayed, cancelled, or failed in its implimentation. As I read the forums the number one complaint I hear is "Why should I buy a product I haven't been able to test?" to which most people are replying "Oh, so you've tested every game you've ever purchased or pre-ordered before?". No, many of us have not tested many games before pre-ordering them or purchasing them. However, for those games that I DID pre-order without first testing I had sufficient information and resources to make me confident in the product I was buying. DnL has not instilled this confidence in me. DnL is aware they have a skeptical audience, but rather than attemping to reassure this loyal fanbase they choose to keep them teetering on this narrow fence between information and darkness. I'm afraid, however, that DnL has neither the massive fanbase, nor the prior reputation to play this sort of game with its followers and there are far too many other, more reputable companies with upcoming projects that players can move to. I have posted very rarely on these forums and have mostly done lurking and reading. I don't come to you as a "whiner" or a "fanboi". I only come to explain why *I* feel I cannot purchase DnL or support its development any further. I hope those of you who continue to follow DnL have your expectations met, as mine surely have not been. To those of you that are hardcore fans: I ask that you understand the position of the skeptical players. They are only looking after themselves and their money. If they don't feel the same confidence or excitement that you do know that there is no lack of reasoning for this position. I'm sure that even you, a time or two, have had your own doubts. To those of you that are highly upset, disappointed, or skeptical: Rememeber that there are still people who DO have confidence and hope in DnL and that your disenchantment doesn't have to ruin it for everyone. Maybe you can see the value in what is left. I'm afraid I cannot. Thanks for reading this and I truly do wish the best for everyone staying with DnL. See you all in the virtual world.
just going to mention a couple things.....
the most obvious is that the guy didnt acctually do all the research, or at least not as throuraghly*sp* as he had hoped to do....
Fact1: NPCube was soley created AFTER DnL was sought up by the founding 5 dev's... and their current dev team includes EQ(1)'s Lore writer Fact2: small company doesnt mean that the game or what ever they are developing is going to be bad... it may point to the fact that it will take longer for a big project to be finished, but nothing about quality.
AD: even though it was formed in 2001, him saying that AD supports a couple games most people wont know about is simply not true, he just didnt list them because he knew people would recognize them, their perhaps most Important venture just happend about a month ago, when they were signed by CODEMASTER to work as GM's...Gary Gygax -is working for AD as well just FYI... AD's list of games(quote from site): "Alchemic Dream manages games like Dark and Light, Project Entropia, Neocron, A Tale in the Desert and Adellion, and owns the largest MMOG catalog in Europe"
im sure some one has at least heard of one of those games.... Gary Gygax was the co-author for DnD btw...
EDIT: forgot to mention one thing..... why do people keep *crying* about closed topics.. does anyone actually read them, or they just look at it, and see that its closed... .. because if you actually read the threads, you will want to lock them your selves. people keep posting exactly the same shit, over and over and over again... and those that post something new, even if it is criticizing the game, stay open. give me at least 1 example of where this isnt true. and i will quit posting on these forums, and leave you all alone.
so as you can see.. even thought NP3 in and of it self is a new company, they are partnered up with some of the best in the buisness.. not to mention they were the first game to partner up with BIGWORLD ... now a lot of other games, and even a mmorpg which will go into development in about a year will also partner up with Bigworld.. in other words, Dark and light is ahead of other MMO's technologically/partnership speaking.
I don't like the fact that the closing date is only one day after SOG starts.
I am defiantely for a longer trial, at least a week. This is so many get a chance to see if they will like it. I dont usually pre-buy myself, and as tempted as I am, I wont pre-buy.
I'll know after 6 months with the game evolving whether it's the deal or not.
And I don't see any real ingame adv Pioneers are going to have except for carrying over wealth (6 months from now). Don't mind supporting games (financially) if they deliver and since the launch of SoG is only 2wks after the preorder, instead of a promise of say "Jan-Feb 2006" I think it's worth the 60. And with nothin else coming out for a couple of months, I got nothin else to do over Xmas break anyway.
It's a smart business decision too, i think. Get a 1/2 million to invest and develop the game, while rewarding the "faithful" Don't have to pre-order to play SoG, so I don't see a problem here. No pre-order=no pre-order perks
I'm not going to preorder. I don't like this pioneer thing, they are forcing you to preorder. They are either too greedy or too insecure about the game. So good bye DnL.
Can someone clear something up, im getting confused with all this preorder/SoG crap. From what some people are saying its almost like you have to preorder DnL to play SoG. I thought SoG is free. What is it?
Originally posted by Orcc Can someone clear something up, im getting confused with all this preorder/SoG crap. From what some people are saying its almost like you have to preorder DnL to play SoG. I thought SoG is free. What is it?
Here is how it works Orcc they have 8881 of what they call pioneer keys available , these pioneer keys cost you sixty dollars plus you have to pay ten to register at Click and Buy but you get that ten back supposedly. These keys get you a whole bunch of good stuff like free transportation, a free dragon pet, you get to transfer your gold and items when (if) the full game comes out. Now the hook is to get one of these 8881 s you have to buy sight unseen, that is the cut off date for ordering these keys conveniently ends the day SoG starts.
Now if this sets off alarm bells then you can wait till the 8th when SoG is supposed top start and try and get one of the ten thousand free keys. Smells like 3 day old fish to me., and I wonder what people will do if on the 8th they delay SoG again or even worse on the 9th the whole website gores down with a 404 error. Then you would have to fight with Click and Buy to try and get your sixty back. Click nd buy is a subsidiary of British Telecom, ask any of the Brits on here what they think about British Telecom or just do some Googleing.
Bottom line is after the all the delays , all of the bullshit that NP3 lays on it's customers , after what happened with Dawn and Mourning etc etc if you want tio donate 60 dollars to the devs for a nice try that is your business. But do not expect a game out of it.
Originally posted by Orcc Can someone clear something up, im getting confused with all this preorder/SoG crap. From what some people are saying its almost like you have to preorder DnL to play SoG. I thought SoG is free. What is it?
Here is how it works Orcc they have 8881 of what they call pioneer keys available , these pioneer keys cost you sixty dollars plus you have to pay ten to register at Click and Buy but you get that ten back supposedly. These keys get you a whole bunch of good stuff like free transportation, a free dragon pet, you get to transfer your gold and items when (if) the full game comes out. Now the hook is to get one of these 8881 s you have to buy sight unseen, that is the cut off date for ordering these keys conveniently ends the day SoG starts.
Now if this sets off alarm bells then you can wait till the 8th when SoG is supposed top start and try and get one of the ten thousand free keys. Smells like 3 day old fish to me., and I wonder what people will do if on the 8th they delay SoG again or even worse on the 9th the whole website gores down with a 404 error. Then you would have to fight with Click and Buy to try and get your sixty back. Click nd buy is a subsidiary of British Telecom, ask any of the Brits on here what they think about British Telecom or just do some Googleing.
Bottom line is after the all the delays , all of the bullshit that NP3 lays on it's customers , after what happened with Dawn and Mourning etc etc if you want tio donate 60 dollars to the devs for a nice try that is your business. But do not expect a game out of it.
How the preorder works is thousands of people donate $60 in a last ditch attempt to keep NPCube from going bankrupt. If they don't, you get tons of cool stuff in the game when its release sometime in 2009.
I'm exagerating a little bit. Its called hyperbole. Read a book sometime.
Originally posted by Orcc Can someone clear something up, im getting confused with all this preorder/SoG crap. From what some people are saying its almost like you have to preorder DnL to play SoG. I thought SoG is free. What is it?
Here is how it works Orcc they have 8881 of what they call pioneer keys available , these pioneer keys cost you sixty dollars plus you have to pay ten to register at Click and Buy but you get that ten back supposedly. These keys get you a whole bunch of good stuff like free transportation, a free dragon pet, you get to transfer your gold and items when (if) the full game comes out. Now the hook is to get one of these 8881 s you have to buy sight unseen, that is the cut off date for ordering these keys conveniently ends the day SoG starts.
Now if this sets off alarm bells then you can wait till the 8th when SoG is supposed top start and try and get one of the ten thousand free keys. Smells like 3 day old fish to me., and I wonder what people will do if on the 8th they delay SoG again or even worse on the 9th the whole website gores down with a 404 error. Then you would have to fight with Click and Buy to try and get your sixty back. Click nd buy is a subsidiary of British Telecom, ask any of the Brits on here what they think about British Telecom or just do some Googleing.
Bottom line is after the all the delays , all of the bullshit that NP3 lays on it's customers , after what happened with Dawn and Mourning etc etc if you want tio donate 60 dollars to the devs for a nice try that is your business. But do not expect a game out of it.
You idiots keep bringing up games like Mourning and Dawn as if they have something to do with DnL? They are completely unrelated , I don't see your point at all?
I would be willing to listen to negative comments if they were actually based on facts . But when morons like you make negative post after negative post with nothing to support your pessimistic view other than "I saw it on a friend's pc and it sucked" or "Uh, do you people remember a game called Dawn?", it gets kind of old.
If DnL is such a horrible game and the devs are just trying to scam preorders , then why are they allowing people to play a FREE prelude to the game for 5 months before it's released?
Can any of you DnL haterade drinking asstrolls actually give a legit answer to that question??
Originally posted by Newbert If DnL is such a horrible game and the devs are just trying to scam preorders , then why are they allowing people to play a FREE prelude to the game for 5 months before it's released? Can any of you DnL haterade drinking asstrolls actually give a legit answer to that question??
Why are they cutting off the pioneer key pre orders before SoG launches?
Why are they charging full price for pre orders when every pre order I have ever bought has been a five dollar down payment
Why are they using third party billing agency where it will be almost impossible to get a refund if the game is crap ware or they cancel or just disappear
Why won't they let MMORPG.com or any other third party site do a pre view?
Whats to stop them from getting the pre order moneys and then delaying SoG again and again?
Why did they not have anything more than a semi working dragon flight/hang glider sim at E3 this year. no combat no mobs and what they had was buggy POS
You got a legit answer to those questions? I got your "leap of faith" and it's off a tall cliff, better hope the hang glider isn't bugged. Come on over and tell me all about the five month free preview once they actualy have one. Right now SoG is nothing but vaporware too.
Originally posted by Jackdog Originally posted by Newbert If DnL is such a horrible game and the devs are just trying to scam preorders , then why are they allowing people to play a FREE prelude to the game for 5 months before it's released? Can any of you DnL haterade drinking asstrolls actually give a legit answer to that question?? Why are they cutting off the pioneer key pre orders before SoG launches? Why are they charging full price for pre orders when every pre order I have ever bought has been a five dollar down payment Why are they using third party billing agency where it will be almost impossible to get a refund if the game is crap ware or they cancel or just disappear Why won't they let MMORPG.com or any other third party site do a pre view? Whats to stop them from getting the pre order moneys and then delaying SoG again and again? Why did they not have anything more than a semi working dragon flight/hang glider sim at E3 this year. no combat no mobs and what they had was buggy POS You got a legit answer to those questions? I got your "leap of faith" and it's off a tall cliff, better hope the hang glider isn't bugged. Come on over and tell me all about the five month free preview once they actualy have one. Right now SoG is nothing but vaporware too.
Originally posted by Jackdog "Well it proves more WoW players go to Gamespy Anyway I am a avid EQII fanbois and have played enough WoW now to warrent me buying my own copy this weekend. I fully plan on being a EQII/WOW fanbois. Guess that makes me the odd man in both games doesn't it QUite frankly I love em both."
"EQII/WOW fanbois. "
aaahhh Jackdog rolf no wonder you hate DnL
lmao your a EQII/WOW fanbois. Gawd damn they're a pile of crap hahahaha ahh shit go back and play in toytown
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I must say I'm not going to pre-order this current 59,99USD offer of NP3. The two reasons for that are quite simple :
1. not enough information.
I can not see the thing I'm paying money for in action. I believe I've seen about 10 minutes worth of film and a whole lot of screenshots. Just searching for those videos hoping to catch a glimpse of gameplay took me hours of my time. I don't play games for graphics, my current mmorpg is a 2D one and I play it for it's gameplay. There's lots of lore to the game that has been done, wonderful, but it tells me nothing on what I'll enjoy in the game. I will be playing SoG to get that information and if it lives up to my expectations will probably buy DnL (if a dd option for final version exists). However the developpers don't seem confident enough to let us one day of prelude("beta")-play before pre-order. I don't know how many of you imagine being able to access SoG on Dec 8th and preorder but I can assure you that it won't be possible with this offer.
2. Pricing
When I go into a store and take a look at the games on the shelves (ready for play) not even one of them is as expensive as that. To say you'll get 1 month of free play as an advantage is pure nonsense as every other boxed mmorpg has a free month of play included in the box. Gold version of a game that isn't even out yet you say ?
Ofcourse the advantages offered are great, when DnL comes out it will be those 8881 people who will be able to own a fortress as they will be the only ones with a sufficient nobility title, they will have a nice item and plenty of money. That is not to mention the benefits during SoG and the fact that you get to see the game first (aka testing the servers). Are these advantages worth 59,99 USD ? Not to me. I don't cheat or buy items for rl cash in online games so this holds nothing of great interest.
I wouldn't be surprized to see a second downpriced unlimited pre-order offer. After all a company is not going to spit on money people are willing to pay. I still have my hopes up for this game, not pre-ordering however is a question of my confidence in NPCube and AD. As they have shown now, they are not worth that 59,99USD of confidence. Anyhow good luck to all of you who do pre-order because as been said before there will be 8881 people that will buy this within the first day no matter what the nay-sayers say or do. There's probably somewhere around 500,000 people following this title, it doesn't take a register on the AD forum to follow the game. We are gaming enthusiasts never forget that those voicing an opinion are just a small percentage of the market.
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I miss DAoC
i can honestly say that i am skeptical about this pre ordering. They end it right when SoG starts. You basically don't get to try it and then buy it, you HAVE to pay before even playing it to get the features at DnL release. I don't think i will pre order, even though i was very positive about this game. I will try SoG and if it is good then i will buy it when it comes out. I would rather keep sixty dollars for an xbox 360 game then to pre order a game i haven't even played, or have any strong information of.
I miss DAoC
i never entered beta, but this move alone seems suspicious. I am still a supporter of the game, but a sixty dollar (american) pre order to gain a few features beyond the original game? As i mentioned before, the pre ordering ends the day before SoG starts, which also leads to my suspicion. I will still try SoG, and still believe in many of it's features and what NPCube is trying to do. I just won't pre order
just going to mention a couple things.....
the most obvious is that the guy didnt acctually do all the research, or at least not as throuraghly*sp* as he had hoped to do....
Fact1: NPCube was soley created AFTER DnL was sought up by the founding 5 dev's... and their current dev team includes EQ(1)'s Lore writer
Fact2: small company doesnt mean that the game or what ever they are developing is going to be bad... it may point to the fact that it will take longer for a big project to be finished, but nothing about quality.
AD: even though it was formed in 2001, him saying that AD supports a couple games most people wont know about is simply not true, he just didnt list them because he knew people would recognize them, their perhaps most Important venture just happend about a month ago, when they were signed by CODEMASTER to work as GM's...Gary Gygax -is working for AD as well just FYI... AD's list of games(quote from site):
"Alchemic Dream manages games like Dark and Light, Project Entropia, Neocron, A Tale in the Desert and Adellion, and owns the largest MMOG catalog in Europe"
im sure some one has at least heard of one of those games.... Gary Gygax was the co-author for DnD btw...
EDIT:
forgot to mention one thing..... why do people keep *crying* about closed topics.. does anyone actually read them, or they just look at it, and see that its closed... .. because if you actually read the threads, you will want to lock them your selves. people keep posting exactly the same shit, over and over and over again... and those that post something new, even if it is criticizing the game, stay open. give me at least 1 example of where this isnt true. and i will quit posting on these forums, and leave you all alone.
EDIT #2: http://www.mmorpgdot.com/index.php?hsaction=10053&ID=807 old dev chat / info on NPCube, for those interested.
also.. they are partnered up/using server technology with a company called microforte: http://www.microforte.com.au/comp/about.htm
so as you can see.. even thought NP3 in and of it self is a new company, they are partnered up with some of the best in the buisness.. not to mention they were the first game to partner up with BIGWORLD ... now a lot of other games, and even a mmorpg which will go into development in about a year will also partner up with Bigworld.. in other words, Dark and light is ahead of other MMO's technologically/partnership speaking.
Okkkkaaayyyyyyyyyyyy
I don't like the fact that the closing date is only one day after SOG starts.
I am defiantely for a longer trial, at least a week. This is so many get a chance to see if they will like it. I dont usually pre-buy myself, and as tempted as I am, I wont pre-buy.
I'll know after 6 months with the game evolving whether it's the deal or not.
not I, no way, no how...
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Me.
A gamble worth taking IMO
And I don't see any real ingame adv Pioneers are going to have except for carrying over wealth (6 months from now). Don't mind supporting games (financially) if they deliver and since the launch of SoG is only 2wks after the preorder, instead of a promise of say "Jan-Feb 2006" I think it's worth the 60. And with nothin else coming out for a couple of months, I got nothin else to do over Xmas break anyway.
It's a smart business decision too, i think. Get a 1/2 million to invest and develop the game, while rewarding the "faithful" Don't have to pre-order to play SoG, so I don't see a problem here. No pre-order=no pre-order perks
Makes sense to me.
I'm not going to preorder. I don't like this pioneer thing, they are forcing you to preorder. They are either too greedy or too insecure about the game. So good bye DnL.
Can someone clear something up, im getting confused with all this preorder/SoG crap. From what some people are saying its almost like you have to preorder DnL to play SoG. I thought SoG is free. What is it?
Here is how it works Orcc they have 8881 of what they call pioneer keys available , these pioneer keys cost you sixty dollars plus you have to pay ten to register at Click and Buy but you get that ten back supposedly. These keys get you a whole bunch of good stuff like free transportation, a free dragon pet, you get to transfer your gold and items when (if) the full game comes out. Now the hook is to get one of these 8881 s you have to buy sight unseen, that is the cut off date for ordering these keys conveniently ends the day SoG starts.
Now if this sets off alarm bells then you can wait till the 8th when SoG is supposed top start and try and get one of the ten thousand free keys. Smells like 3 day old fish to me., and I wonder what people will do if on the 8th they delay SoG again or even worse on the 9th the whole website gores down with a 404 error. Then you would have to fight with Click and Buy to try and get your sixty back. Click nd buy is a subsidiary of British Telecom, ask any of the Brits on here what they think about British Telecom or just do some Googleing.
Bottom line is after the all the delays , all of the bullshit that NP3 lays on it's customers , after what happened with Dawn and Mourning etc etc if you want tio donate 60 dollars to the devs for a nice try that is your business. But do not expect a game out of it.
I miss DAoC
Here is how it works Orcc they have 8881 of what they call pioneer keys available , these pioneer keys cost you sixty dollars plus you have to pay ten to register at Click and Buy but you get that ten back supposedly. These keys get you a whole bunch of good stuff like free transportation, a free dragon pet, you get to transfer your gold and items when (if) the full game comes out. Now the hook is to get one of these 8881 s you have to buy sight unseen, that is the cut off date for ordering these keys conveniently ends the day SoG starts.
Now if this sets off alarm bells then you can wait till the 8th when SoG is supposed top start and try and get one of the ten thousand free keys. Smells like 3 day old fish to me., and I wonder what people will do if on the 8th they delay SoG again or even worse on the 9th the whole website gores down with a 404 error. Then you would have to fight with Click and Buy to try and get your sixty back. Click nd buy is a subsidiary of British Telecom, ask any of the Brits on here what they think about British Telecom or just do some Googleing.
Bottom line is after the all the delays , all of the bullshit that NP3 lays on it's customers , after what happened with Dawn and Mourning etc etc if you want tio donate 60 dollars to the devs for a nice try that is your business. But do not expect a game out of it.
I miss DAoC
How the preorder works is thousands of people donate $60 in a last ditch attempt to keep NPCube from going bankrupt. If they don't, you get tons of cool stuff in the game when its release sometime in 2009.
I'm exagerating a little bit. Its called hyperbole. Read a book sometime.
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Here is how it works Orcc they have 8881 of what they call pioneer keys available , these pioneer keys cost you sixty dollars plus you have to pay ten to register at Click and Buy but you get that ten back supposedly. These keys get you a whole bunch of good stuff like free transportation, a free dragon pet, you get to transfer your gold and items when (if) the full game comes out. Now the hook is to get one of these 8881 s you have to buy sight unseen, that is the cut off date for ordering these keys conveniently ends the day SoG starts.
Now if this sets off alarm bells then you can wait till the 8th when SoG is supposed top start and try and get one of the ten thousand free keys. Smells like 3 day old fish to me., and I wonder what people will do if on the 8th they delay SoG again or even worse on the 9th the whole website gores down with a 404 error. Then you would have to fight with Click and Buy to try and get your sixty back. Click nd buy is a subsidiary of British Telecom, ask any of the Brits on here what they think about British Telecom or just do some Googleing.
Bottom line is after the all the delays , all of the bullshit that NP3 lays on it's customers , after what happened with Dawn and Mourning etc etc if you want tio donate 60 dollars to the devs for a nice try that is your business. But do not expect a game out of it.
You idiots keep bringing up games like Mourning and Dawn as if they have something to do with DnL? They are completely unrelated , I don't see your point at all?
I would be willing to listen to negative comments if they were actually based on facts . But when morons like you make negative post after negative post with nothing to support your pessimistic view other than "I saw it on a friend's pc and it sucked" or "Uh, do you people remember a game called Dawn?", it gets kind of old.
If DnL is such a horrible game and the devs are just trying to scam preorders , then why are they allowing people to play a FREE prelude to the game for 5 months before it's released?
Can any of you DnL haterade drinking asstrolls actually give a legit answer to that question??
Why are they cutting off the pioneer key pre orders before SoG launches?
Why are they charging full price for pre orders when every pre order I have ever bought has been a five dollar down payment
Why are they using third party billing agency where it will be almost impossible to get a refund if the game is crap ware or they cancel or just disappear
Why won't they let MMORPG.com or any other third party site do a pre view?
Whats to stop them from getting the pre order moneys and then delaying SoG again and again?
Why did they not have anything more than a semi working dragon flight/hang glider sim at E3 this year. no combat no mobs and what they had was buggy POS
You got a legit answer to those questions? I got your "leap of faith" and it's off a tall cliff, better hope the hang glider isn't bugged. Come on over and tell me all about the five month free preview once they actualy have one. Right now SoG is nothing but vaporware too.
I miss DAoC
"EQII/WOW fanbois. "
aaahhh Jackdog rolf
lmao your a EQII/WOW fanbois. Gawd damn they're a pile of crap hahahaha ahh shit go back and play in toytown