Originally posted by kefkah Whats more - they bold faced LIED to the Rangers and smugglers strunging us along. Tell me and answer me this one question. Was that fair? Was it fair to take our money, string us along and pay thier NGE devs with our money? They went as far as to have dialogue with us about the upcoming revamp. Not the NGE revamp but the ranger revamp. They were lying the entire time and people do not like to be lied to. There is some of your anger justification.
LOL and dont forget what happened to my beloved Creature Handlers... which btw, SOE has stated in NO uncertain terms will NEVER come back into the game even while they hint that som of the ranger abilities may someday come back. My Pets are gone forever though...
Originally posted by Dobrie Originally posted by kefkah Whats more - they bold faced LIED to the Rangers and smugglers strunging us along. Tell me and answer me this one question. Was that fair? Was it fair to take our money, string us along and pay thier NGE devs with our money? They went as far as to have dialogue with us about the upcoming revamp. Not the NGE revamp but the ranger revamp. They were lying the entire time and people do not like to be lied to. There is some of your anger justification. LOL and dont forget what happened to my beloved Creature Handlers... which btw, SOE has stated in NO uncertain terms will NEVER come back into the game even while they hint that som of the ranger abilities may someday come back. My Pets are gone forever though...
That's not true actually. I saw comments today suggesting that, although CH will never be a profession again, the same game play will be applied to others.
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Originally posted by Wepps Originally posted by Roin Wepps and KefkahI must say. In the about 2 years I have been visiting MMORPG.com. Your two post have been probably the best I've ever seen to date. If SOE had hired people like you two. They probably wouldn't be in the mess they are in now.
lol thanks.
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Maybe he'll listen..
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And Wepps. CH will come back in the same way we could have CL10 pets without CH. There's no way they are doing more than that.
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I didn't read the whole post, or most of the replys, but just so everyone is clear: LucasArts is in charge of Marketing not SOE. It's in the credits in the back of the book if you don't believe me.
Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by Shayde Hell.. 70 of 'em couldn't get the bugs gone before.. what makes you think they'll do it now?Because now, instead of 32 professions, there are 9.
Blind Faith must be nice, but you know what they say about "ignorance" and "bliss".
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Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by Shayde Hell.. 70 of 'em couldn't get the bugs gone before.. what makes you think they'll do it now?Because now, instead of 32 professions, there are 9.
Yes... but there were only 12 classes to "balance" before and they couldn't pull that off in 2 years.
Huh? Don't you mean they didn't try for 2 years, well except jedi.
- Scaris
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Originally posted by anarchyart They are NEVER going to have more than one version of the game available on seperate servers, so just stop it. No company could afford 2 sets of devs, even SOE. I personally don't care about methods and trust when I'm dealing with a game company. If I like the game I play, if I don't I play something else. If you feel so affronted by alleged broken promises, then vote with your dollars. Simply don't play. It truly boggles my mind how otherwise intelligent people will harbor a hatred usually reserved for murderers and child rapists for a gaming company. It's sad to think how these people deal with other problems in life.
How many murderers and child rapists have you met today to show hatred towards? People were wronged that gives them every right to hate. Not only are they talking with their money by canceling they are doing an excellent job of spreading the word to prevent others from wasting their money as well. You could call that a community service. All you are doing is confusing the issue by defending a Corporation that has consitantly proven to be incompetent and oblivious of what the paying customer wants. Boggles my mind sometimes how people will defend such a crappy operation. Later on in the thread you profess to loving the NGE. Ten years down the line when you have a first class case of carpal tunnel from all that clicking you will hate the NGE. City of Heros has managed to make a dynamic and fast action paced combat system without the click fest. The NGE is just crap plain and simple.
Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by Shayde Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by Shayde Hell.. 70 of 'em couldn't get the bugs gone before.. what makes you think they'll do it now?Because now, instead of 32 professions, there are 9.
Yes... but there were only 12 classes to "balance" before and they couldn't pull that off in 2 years.
Huh? Don't you mean they didn't try for 2 years, well except jedi.
No.. I meant that they use a flimsy excuse of they "couldn't balance 32 professions" when they actually had to worry about balancing 12. You dont need to combat-balance polititian or Chef.
So they couldn't balance 12 professions in 2 years... what makes you think that they can balance 9 now?
Of course, since all the weapons do the same damage, and everything is based on level, they might have found a stealth way to do it. Make everyone the SAME... just re-skin them.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
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I agree with the OP. The problem isn't the new combat system neccessarily. The problem is that they haven't made their combat systems work and, instead of fixing them, have changed them entirely. Twice! And this is because of mismanagement of human resources who didn't fully set out with a real Star Wars vision to begin with.
What SWG started with was a "strife"-based system, where you worked and worked and worked and did your taxes and maybe - just maybe - you would get rewarded. Vehicles and player shuttleports weren't in the game so you had to walk EVERYWHERE (and they had a lot of square footage to cover). Personal vehicles weren't in there either, so you had to wait 10 minutes for a shuttle. It was a pain.
I definitely didn't jive well with the pre-CU system. I played the game a lot, but I absolutely hated buff lines, clone armor (not Clone Armor from the movies), and rediculous NPC-player stat ratios. Don't even get me started on the HAM/"Can't heal mind"/"Any one drops, you're dead"/"It's 3 bars, but it's actually 9 bars" system, which was awful.
The CU was perfectly fine. I loved it. Certain elements were made simple, but not too dumbed down and character customization and complexity was still there. The professions were still in tact and we finally had a game that was easy to figure out, yet still challenging (at least for me, a casual player).
The NGE isn't necessarily a bad system. Yeah, it's simple and dumbed down, but if it's simple that means it's easier to balance and define a game around. But, it's still harming SWG overall because players are rejecting it, hard work has gone unrewarded, and you can only really customize your look now.
No.. I meant that they use a flimsy excuse of they "couldn't balance 32 professions" when they actually had to worry about balancing 12. You dont need to combat-balance polititian or Chef. So they couldn't balance 12 professions in 2 years... what makes you think that they can balance 9 now? Of course, since all the weapons do the same damage, and everything is based on level, they might have found a stealth way to do it. Make everyone the SAME... just re-skin them.
Acutally this is totally wrong. The fighting professions effect crafters A LOT. Don't forget you have to balance Creature Handlers with Bio-Engineers, which also have to be balanced with Droid Engineers. So I've just brought your 12 up to 15. Now that you've balanced CH against DE, you can't make droids more useful than Architect or they will start to complain. Then you have to figure out why Weaponsmiths product can decay but the Architect's don't, so what will balance that limitation. Then you also have to make sure that people that dabble as a weaponsmith aren't just as effective as a master weaponsmith, but still feel useful so people don't say that you have to be a master crafter to make anything worth selling. Balance is a lot more complicated than a few combat professions.
Then let's consider the fact that there hasn't been an MMO that's EVER been created that has ever achieved this mystical balance. EVER.
Shayde's post perfectly illustrates why we're stuck with the NGE. People refuse to believe the complexity of the system makes things difficult to fix. This simple logic just won't sink in to the collective communities brains.
Originally posted by Jodokai Originally posted by Shayde No.. I meant that they use a flimsy excuse of they "couldn't balance 32 professions" when they actually had to worry about balancing 12. You dont need to combat-balance polititian or Chef. So they couldn't balance 12 professions in 2 years... what makes you think that they can balance 9 now? Of course, since all the weapons do the same damage, and everything is based on level, they might have found a stealth way to do it. Make everyone the SAME... just re-skin them. Acutally this is totally wrong. The fighting professions effect crafters A LOT. Don't forget you have to balance Creature Handlers with Bio-Engineers, which also have to be balanced with Droid Engineers. So I've just brought your 12 up to 15. Now that you've balanced CH against DE, you can't make droids more useful than Architect or they will start to complain. Then you have to figure out why Weaponsmiths product can decay but the Architect's don't, so what will balance that limitation. Then you also have to make sure that people that dabble as a weaponsmith aren't just as effective as a master weaponsmith, but still feel useful so people don't say that you have to be a master crafter to make anything worth selling. Balance is a lot more complicated than a few combat professions. Then let's consider the fact that there hasn't been an MMO that's EVER been created that has ever achieved this mystical balance. EVER. Shayde's post perfectly illustrates why we're stuck with the NGE. People refuse to believe the complexity of the system makes things difficult to fix. This simple logic just won't sink in to the collective communities brains.
No.. that's crap.
Why?
NOTHING except combat classes NEED to be balanced. Everyone who bitched for balance was talking combat only.
That.. and they've never done ANYTHING to "balance" a crafter class. If that were the case, architects would be as rich as armourers. They've never even discussed anything to "balance" non-combat classes.
This all boils down to combat. That's 12 classes they could have easily "balanced" in 2 years. EVERYTHING else was gravy.
That, and the mge didn't balance anything except make jedi useless.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
No.. that's crap. Why? NOTHING except combat classes NEED to be balanced. Everyone who bitched for balance was talking combat only. It's obvious you were never a crafter. That.. and they've never done ANYTHING to "balance" a crafter class. If that were the case, architects would be as rich as armourers. They've never even discussed anything to "balance" non-combat classes. See above. Try going to the DE forums and the CH forums and the BE forums, you've missed A LOT. This all boils down to combat. That's 12 classes they could have easily "balanced" in 2 years. EVERYTHING else was gravy. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Right 'easily balanced' sure AO hasn't been able to do it in 7 years, EQ hasn't been able to do it in almost 7 years, and NO MMO ON THE MARKET TODAY has ever been able to do it, but somehow you think SWG could have done it in 2? And that doesn't sound rediculous to you at all? That, and the mge didn't balance anything except make jedi useless. AMEN and I do a little jig everyday for this change.
Originally posted by Aetius73How many murderers and child rapists have you met today to show hatred towards? People were wronged that gives them every right to hate. Not only are they talking with their money by canceling they are doing an excellent job of spreading the word to prevent others from wasting their money as well. You could call that a community service. All you are doing is confusing the issue by defending a Corporation that has consitantly proven to be incompetent and oblivious of what the paying customer wants. Boggles my mind sometimes how people will defend such a crappy operation. Later on in the thread you profess to loving the NGE. Ten years down the line when you have a first class case of carpal tunnel from all that clicking you will hate the NGE. City of Heros has managed to make a dynamic and fast action paced combat system without the click fest. The NGE is just crap plain and simple.
I haven't met any, did you meet SOE? The avarice people show against SOE is usually reserved for the Jeffrey Dahmers and Hitlers of the world, that was my point. People were wronged? You don't have the slightest clue what it means to be truly wronged. Wanna perform a community service? Use the time you used to spend playing SWG and go volunteer for the United way, or for some local food bank or soup kitchen, that's a community service. Not whining on some forum about how you were "wronged" by a gaming company. You don't like it? Don't play. Simple.
Carpal Tunnel? You only have to click each enemy once, which goes to show you haven't even tried the NGE. Click fest? lol go try it before you slam it. All you have to do is hold your left mouse button over the enemy. Once. Owww my hand!
It has it's problems, but I'm enjoying it. It was fun at launch, it was fun after the CU. Now it's ****in fun! Bye, gonna go play now, what're you playing?
Very well articulated. I particularly enjoyed reading your post Wepps because you had more of an insider view than most of us. Kefkah's post addressed, quite succinctly, the betrayal we all felt at the hands of SOE. I can't help but feel cheated by all this. I've posted on the SWG forums and a bit here about my feelings. But what it comes down to is not that I paid them to create this crap called the NGE, but that I lost everything I created. Not just possessions, although that is part of it. But a thriving town and community of people. All that time creating something special was completely wasted. My time is way more valuable to me than my money. Money comes and goes but you can never get your time back. I read in one of the many posts that there was a lawsuit won by someone in China (?) over virtual property. The online gaming company lost all this customers character possessions and couldn't get them back. No apologies or offers of compensation were given. Suit was filed. The court found that virtual property did have real value and that this plaintiff deserved recompense. Does simple data have real value in todays world? You betcha! Virtual possessions are no different.
I've played a lot of games in my years, starting with Pong. But I never played a MMORPG before. When I started playing SWG almost a year ago it was like nothing I had ever experienced before. I was completely engrossed. And it stayed that way for me. I was a huge fan of Star Wars and I enjoyed the amazing complexity of the game. I was leery of the CU cause of the uproar but I gave it a chance and learned to like it. It wasn't such a huge departure form the pre-CU game play (although I enjoyed pre-CU much more). Knowing that this game was torpedoed by poor time management and greedy/lazy business decisions really irks me. The way Wepps laid it out though makes perfect sense and some of his conclusion I had come to as well. Had they just made the game right to begin with instead of having their focus divided with expansions SWG could have been amazing. Reading what he wrote about what could have been makes me weep. It's likely I won't be playing any MMORPG's anytime soon. I'm just not a sorcerer, dragon, elf kind of guy. Star Wars allowed me to live the dream of coming as close as I could get to actually being a Jedi. Now Jedi is a joke. They took my dream and smashed it on an asteroid.
Originally posted by Jheron Does simple data have real value in todays world? You betcha! Virtual possessions are no different.
You are absolutely right. The data does have a value. The only thing you are missing is that you don't own that data, or virtual items, none of it, LucasArts and SOE own it all. So to you the player it has no value.
As far as the rest, I will admit that a game I liked a lot was ruined I don't think I could say they crushed my dreams. I've never been that deep into a game.
Originally posted by Jheron Does simple data have real value in todays world? You betcha! Virtual possessions are no different.
You are absolutely right. The data does have a value. The only thing you are missing is that you don't own that data, or virtual items, none of it, LucasArts and SOE own it all. So to you the player it has no value.
As far as the rest, I will admit that a game I liked a lot was ruined I don't think I could say they crushed my dreams. I've never been that deep into a game.
Well that may be, or it just may be your opinion. However in this particular case the Judge found that virtual property does have value and it belongs to the possessor or player not the creator.
As far as a not being that deep into a game let me ask you this are you a big Star Wars fan? I'm guessing you're a fan but not a big fan.
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LOL and dont forget what happened to my beloved Creature Handlers... which btw, SOE has stated in NO uncertain terms will NEVER come back into the game even while they hint that som of the ranger abilities may someday come back. My Pets are gone forever though...
That's not true actually. I saw comments today suggesting that, although CH will never be a profession again, the same game play will be applied to others.
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lol thanks.
Nobody listens to me. If I were working for SOE, nobody would be listening to me and I would be paid for it.
Maybe he'll listen..
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And Wepps. CH will come back in the same way we could have CL10 pets without CH. There's no way they are doing more than that.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Blind Faith must be nice, but you know what they say about "ignorance" and "bliss".
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
Yes... but there were only 12 classes to "balance" before and they couldn't pull that off in 2 years.
Huh? Don't you mean they didn't try for 2 years, well except jedi.
- Scaris
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Yes... but there were only 12 classes to "balance" before and they couldn't pull that off in 2 years.
Huh? Don't you mean they didn't try for 2 years, well except jedi.
No.. I meant that they use a flimsy excuse of they "couldn't balance 32 professions" when they actually had to worry about balancing 12. You dont need to combat-balance polititian or Chef.
So they couldn't balance 12 professions in 2 years... what makes you think that they can balance 9 now?
Of course, since all the weapons do the same damage, and everything is based on level, they might have found a stealth way to do it. Make everyone the SAME... just re-skin them.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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I agree with the OP. The problem isn't the new combat system neccessarily. The problem is that they haven't made their combat systems work and, instead of fixing them, have changed them entirely. Twice! And this is because of mismanagement of human resources who didn't fully set out with a real Star Wars vision to begin with.
What SWG started with was a "strife"-based system, where you worked and worked and worked and did your taxes and maybe - just maybe - you would get rewarded. Vehicles and player shuttleports weren't in the game so you had to walk EVERYWHERE (and they had a lot of square footage to cover). Personal vehicles weren't in there either, so you had to wait 10 minutes for a shuttle. It was a pain.
I definitely didn't jive well with the pre-CU system. I played the game a lot, but I absolutely hated buff lines, clone armor (not Clone Armor from the movies), and rediculous NPC-player stat ratios. Don't even get me started on the HAM/"Can't heal mind"/"Any one drops, you're dead"/"It's 3 bars, but it's actually 9 bars" system, which was awful.
The CU was perfectly fine. I loved it. Certain elements were made simple, but not too dumbed down and character customization and complexity was still there. The professions were still in tact and we finally had a game that was easy to figure out, yet still challenging (at least for me, a casual player).
The NGE isn't necessarily a bad system. Yeah, it's simple and dumbed down, but if it's simple that means it's easier to balance and define a game around. But, it's still harming SWG overall because players are rejecting it, hard work has gone unrewarded, and you can only really customize your look now.
Acutally this is totally wrong. The fighting professions effect crafters A LOT. Don't forget you have to balance Creature Handlers with Bio-Engineers, which also have to be balanced with Droid Engineers. So I've just brought your 12 up to 15. Now that you've balanced CH against DE, you can't make droids more useful than Architect or they will start to complain. Then you have to figure out why Weaponsmiths product can decay but the Architect's don't, so what will balance that limitation. Then you also have to make sure that people that dabble as a weaponsmith aren't just as effective as a master weaponsmith, but still feel useful so people don't say that you have to be a master crafter to make anything worth selling. Balance is a lot more complicated than a few combat professions.
Then let's consider the fact that there hasn't been an MMO that's EVER been created that has ever achieved this mystical balance. EVER.
Shayde's post perfectly illustrates why we're stuck with the NGE. People refuse to believe the complexity of the system makes things difficult to fix. This simple logic just won't sink in to the collective communities brains.
No.. that's crap.
Why?
NOTHING except combat classes NEED to be balanced. Everyone who bitched for balance was talking combat only.
That.. and they've never done ANYTHING to "balance" a crafter class. If that were the case, architects would be as rich as armourers. They've never even discussed anything to "balance" non-combat classes.
This all boils down to combat. That's 12 classes they could have easily "balanced" in 2 years. EVERYTHING else was gravy.
That, and the mge didn't balance anything except make jedi useless.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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I haven't met any, did you meet SOE? The avarice people show against SOE is usually reserved for the Jeffrey Dahmers and Hitlers of the world, that was my point. People were wronged? You don't have the slightest clue what it means to be truly wronged. Wanna perform a community service? Use the time you used to spend playing SWG and go volunteer for the United way, or for some local food bank or soup kitchen, that's a community service. Not whining on some forum about how you were "wronged" by a gaming company. You don't like it? Don't play. Simple.
Carpal Tunnel? You only have to click each enemy once, which goes to show you haven't even tried the NGE. Click fest? lol go try it before you slam it. All you have to do is hold your left mouse button over the enemy. Once. Owww my hand!
It has it's problems, but I'm enjoying it. It was fun at launch, it was fun after the CU. Now it's ****in fun!
Bye, gonna go play now, what're you playing?
To Wepps and kefkah /salute
Very well articulated. I particularly enjoyed reading your post Wepps because you had more of an insider view than most of us. Kefkah's post addressed, quite succinctly, the betrayal we all felt at the hands of SOE. I can't help but feel cheated by all this. I've posted on the SWG forums and a bit here about my feelings. But what it comes down to is not that I paid them to create this crap called the NGE, but that I lost everything I created. Not just possessions, although that is part of it. But a thriving town and community of people. All that time creating something special was completely wasted. My time is way more valuable to me than my money. Money comes and goes but you can never get your time back. I read in one of the many posts that there was a lawsuit won by someone in China (?) over virtual property. The online gaming company lost all this customers character possessions and couldn't get them back. No apologies or offers of compensation were given. Suit was filed. The court found that virtual property did have real value and that this plaintiff deserved recompense. Does simple data have real value in todays world? You betcha! Virtual possessions are no different.
I've played a lot of games in my years, starting with Pong. But I never played a MMORPG before. When I started playing SWG almost a year ago it was like nothing I had ever experienced before. I was completely engrossed. And it stayed that way for me. I was a huge fan of Star Wars and I enjoyed the amazing complexity of the game. I was leery of the CU cause of the uproar but I gave it a chance and learned to like it. It wasn't such a huge departure form the pre-CU game play (although I enjoyed pre-CU much more). Knowing that this game was torpedoed by poor time management and greedy/lazy business decisions really irks me. The way Wepps laid it out though makes perfect sense and some of his conclusion I had come to as well. Had they just made the game right to begin with instead of having their focus divided with expansions SWG could have been amazing. Reading what he wrote about what could have been makes me weep. It's likely I won't be playing any MMORPG's anytime soon. I'm just not a sorcerer, dragon, elf kind of guy. Star Wars allowed me to live the dream of coming as close as I could get to actually being a Jedi. Now Jedi is a joke. They took my dream and smashed it on an asteroid.
You are absolutely right. The data does have a value. The only thing you are missing is that you don't own that data, or virtual items, none of it, LucasArts and SOE own it all. So to you the player it has no value.
As far as the rest, I will admit that a game I liked a lot was ruined I don't think I could say they crushed my dreams. I've never been that deep into a game.
You are absolutely right. The data does have a value. The only thing you are missing is that you don't own that data, or virtual items, none of it, LucasArts and SOE own it all. So to you the player it has no value.
As far as the rest, I will admit that a game I liked a lot was ruined I don't think I could say they crushed my dreams. I've never been that deep into a game.
Well that may be, or it just may be your opinion. However in this particular case the Judge found that virtual property does have value and it belongs to the possessor or player not the creator.
As far as a not being that deep into a game let me ask you this are you a big Star Wars fan? I'm guessing you're a fan but not a big fan.
Perfect summary of the history of SWG, very good post.