i still cant figure out how this game became such a cluster.
SOE: EQ
LA: KOTOR 1&2, Battlefront 1&2
All of which were successful games, yet they still cant figure out how to make a Star Wars MMO. If the first revamp didnt work what made them think that a second one would? I wonder how much longer SOE is going to keep this up. That Star Wars license isnt cheap.
I can't remember exact ages, nor did I try to calculate any statistics, but my former SWG PAs struck me as being mostly people who grew up on the original episode 4-6 movies. I think that's one of the things that kept me in SWG despite the bugs and letdowns. Such a great community compared to other games. Being able to refer to '80s music, movies, series, old C64 games and what not without people asking wtf I'm talking about was sorta nice. I don't even feel like mentioning such things in WoW because I know half or more of the people there probably won't even know what type of game ELITE was and they'll probably laugh if I tell them that I still listen to some of the old SID tunes
Oh well... time flies...
I'm a big ol' fluffy carewolf. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I'm not tauching this crap unless they credit all of us free game time for all of the time that they more or less made ust hrow away on grinding for jedi or various other quests that now mean nothing. They'd also need to "add" all the animations back for melee that they, for whatever moronic reason, took away in the NGE. Second they'd need to make all jedi, regardless of faction, KOS to all empirial soldiers if they were wearing/wielding anything jedi related. I'll even be "okay" if they kept jedi as a starting class, just as long as they are forced to play their character like the time period should require, stealthfully and realisticly.
Oh, and bring back Creature handlers, but more importantly add in that damn droid commander class they've been 'mentioning' since day one (think creature handler but with various battle droids, etc. I love creature handlers but this would have been an awesome class).
Anyways, since none of this really matters now I'll stop here, I just feel obligated to bitch ever so often about SWG
I wonder how SOE okay'ed that. Thouse Jedi's that worked really hard on gaining Jedi status only to get nerfed into a normal class. Thouse accounts were worth 1000's before they did that Jedi revamp crap. So very hard to become a Jedi before that happened.
Seriously STOP thinking you can resurrect SWG!!!! Make Star Wars Online, end of story! And you better make it pre-CU or I will chase down and stab every developer with a rusty spoon!
SWG Has been:
Shot, poisoned, hanged, slashed, blown away, killed, fried, strangeled, tortured, pushed off the cliff, ran over by a steamroller, detonated, used, frozen over, drowned, scaled, ripped from inside, shattered, pierced, bruised, sufficated AND I think it's DEAD now!
Every MMORPG should now come with a revamp free guarantee.
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
SWG won't die no matter how many times you post that it is dead, dying, whatever. It will only die when Lucas pulls the plug, which won't happen for at least another year. I say a year because that was the time frame for everything they want to implement to be implemented. So I give it a minimum one year and six months.
Before they call it dead in the water, they will release another expansion after the majority of the work they have done is finished and the fixes are in, and then another giant marketing campaign. Expect it to last till Christmas.
Originally posted by mystitigger "Anarchy, your sig (mainly the animated part) is over 1mb " Yeah.. change the topic
The topic I think you're talking about seemed dead by the time I replied, not much point me bringing it back up again when others have already said pretty much what I would have said.
I don't care what SOE "fixes." There is nothing - absolutely nothing - that would induce me to play this pos or any other SOE game ever again. Too many lies. Too much incompetence. Save the SOE plant posts for someone who hasn't dealt with these guys before and doesn't know better.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Originally posted by Amathe I don't care what SOE "fixes." There is nothing - absolutely nothing - that would induce me to play this pos or any other SOE game ever again. Too many lies. Too much incompetence. Save the SOE plant posts for someone who hasn't dealt with these guys before and doesn't know better.
SOE is the white whale of all MMORPG conspiracy theorists. Don't think that you're intelligent for hating SOE, any asshat with a laptop can read forums, and it's monkey see, monkey diss.
Originally posted by Amathe I don't care what SOE "fixes." There is nothing - absolutely nothing - that would induce me to play this pos or any other SOE game ever again. Too many lies. Too much incompetence. Save the SOE plant posts for someone who hasn't dealt with these guys before and doesn't know better.
SOE is the white whale of all MMORPG conspiracy theorists. Don't think that you're intelligent for hating SOE, any asshat with a laptop can read forums, and it's monkey see, monkey diss. AA, what's up bud??? Are you returning to your old ways?
SOE knows what you like... You don't! And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Originally posted by mystitigger Well.. I think this thread it about SWG.. no need to go offtopic in it
The thread was originally about the publish notes, but like most threads here it turned into a "I hate SOE" post.
Actually what happened is that this turned into a discussion, which is what forums are for... You posted the publish notes, someone commented on the fact that they are mainly a list of bug fixes, you and AA defended the merits of them and so forth. Just because it didn't have the effect you expected doesn't make it any less worthy. I've had posts too that have turned on me...
I think you thought that most people would see this as a sign that SWG is not dying, that the game is getting better, etc... Most people, including myself felt like this didn't deserve any merit because it's 95% bugfixes and just 5% content. And even then the content is questionable, because heavy weapons were already in the game, they were just "removed" and they are beign "added" again. And even then there's the question of how much will this publish break! Sorry, but it's a fact!
SOE knows what you like... You don't! And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
This will just cause 100 other things to go wrong. The fat lady is singing and SOE needs to listen. Nothing will save this game, give it up and move on.
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i still cant figure out how this game became such a cluster.
SOE: EQ
LA: KOTOR 1&2, Battlefront 1&2
All of which were successful games, yet they still cant figure out how to make a Star Wars MMO. If the first revamp didnt work what made them think that a second one would? I wonder how much longer SOE is going to keep this up. That Star Wars license isnt cheap.
'73 ftw... I feel like such a relic already
I can't remember exact ages, nor did I try to calculate any statistics, but my former SWG PAs struck me as being mostly people who grew up on the original episode 4-6 movies. I think that's one of the things that kept me in SWG despite the bugs and letdowns. Such a great community compared to other games. Being able to refer to '80s music, movies, series, old C64 games and what not without people asking wtf I'm talking about was sorta nice. I don't even feel like mentioning such things in WoW because I know half or more of the people there probably won't even know what type of game ELITE was and they'll probably laugh if I tell them that I still listen to some of the old SID tunes
Oh well... time flies...
I'm a big ol' fluffy carewolf. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
lol i dont get why everyone hates it...
it's much better than ever or guildwars.
i dunno about wow... that game has a great engine
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Oh, and bring back Creature handlers, but more importantly add in that damn droid commander class they've been 'mentioning' since day one (think creature handler but with various battle droids, etc. I love creature handlers but this would have been an awesome class).
Anyways, since none of this really matters now I'll stop here, I just feel obligated to bitch ever so often about SWG
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Probably a few more months..
The game is terrible now.
nuff said
I wonder how SOE okay'ed that. Thouse Jedi's that worked really hard on gaining Jedi status only to get nerfed into a normal class. Thouse accounts were worth 1000's before they did that Jedi revamp crap. So very hard to become a Jedi before that happened.
Seriously STOP thinking you can resurrect SWG!!!! Make Star Wars Online, end of story! And you better make it pre-CU or I will chase down and stab every developer with a rusty spoon!
SWG Has been:
Shot, poisoned, hanged, slashed, blown away, killed, fried, strangeled, tortured, pushed off the cliff, ran over by a steamroller, detonated, used, frozen over, drowned, scaled, ripped from inside, shattered, pierced, bruised, sufficated AND I think it's DEAD now!
Every MMORPG should now come with a revamp free guarantee.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
SWG won't die no matter how many times you post that it is dead, dying, whatever. It will only die when Lucas pulls the plug, which won't happen for at least another year. I say a year because that was the time frame for everything they want to implement to be implemented. So I give it a minimum one year and six months.
Before they call it dead in the water, they will release another expansion after the majority of the work they have done is finished and the fixes are in, and then another giant marketing campaign. Expect it to last till Christmas.
"Anarchy, your sig (mainly the animated part) is over 1mb "
Yeah.. change the topic
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Well.. I think this thread it about SWG.. no need to go offtopic in it
All threads SWG related are usually turned into "I Hate SOE" ones.. :P
AA, what's up bud??? Are you returning to your old ways?
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!
Actually what happened is that this turned into a discussion, which is what forums are for... You posted the publish notes, someone commented on the fact that they are mainly a list of bug fixes, you and AA defended the merits of them and so forth. Just because it didn't have the effect you expected doesn't make it any less worthy. I've had posts too that have turned on me...
I think you thought that most people would see this as a sign that SWG is not dying, that the game is getting better, etc... Most people, including myself felt like this didn't deserve any merit because it's 95% bugfixes and just 5% content. And even then the content is questionable, because heavy weapons were already in the game, they were just "removed" and they are beign "added" again. And even then there's the question of how much will this publish break! Sorry, but it's a fact!
SOE knows what you like... You don't!
And don't forget... I am forcing you to read this!