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Star Wars Galaxies: Interview with Casey Keefe

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  • GFullsGFulls Member Posts: 478

    As I said in another post. Why not get organized and get a lawyer to file a class action suit against Sony and Lucas Arts. Players have a huge case here! I doubt anyone would get money from it, but it would cause a ton of bad press for the company and game. So many people are angry why not....

    Body Blow, Body Blow....KNOCK 'EM OUT!!!

     

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  • VespasianVespasian Member Posts: 125

    "No comment" and general "dodge the question" answers like always, they used to do the same in the stratics chat.  I played SWG from beta 3 - NGE and I have to say that the game was a ton of fun until they tried to copy other games with the CU and then the NGE.

    As developers they should be ashamed to come into an interview where tons of their players, ex-players, and fellow MMORPG enthusiasts read and post crap like that.

    MMORPG.com good job on your part, no complaint at all and thank you for the interview.

    SOE/SWG - When will you learn?  You are a sad example of what happens when a great game gets controlled completely by the corporation and money aspect and loses sight of all the reasons to create and run a game.

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  • miccavmiccav Member Posts: 33

    Everyone I know have boycotted SOE cuz of their incompetence with SWG. I know it sounds extreme but if they did this to SWG, who says they won't do it to their other products. We don't want to encourage this behaviour with subscriptions, otherwise other MMOG companies would follow in their footsteps. IMO, the NGE is a de-evolution in the MMOG industry, not just product-wise, but the company as a whole. They're a bad rolemodel. Imagine your favorite MMOG, cutting your choice of classes in half (but everyone chooses only one class), taking all that you've accomplished and throwing it down the drain. SOE has lost touch, I can't understand how a company can make so many mistakes and still be so optimistic about their failure. If they showed some understanding and compassion in the beginning, I'd respect them a little more. But to late for that. I'd love to see them file Chapter 11. But that's only a dream. I'm sorry I sound harsh, but they pissed me (and everyone I know) off.

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  • uller30uller30 Member UncommonPosts: 125

    sadly i played this when it cameout and I had a BLAST. Though now when Jedi became not a coveted status but another o look there goes Demi-God#45560756. The game has become lame and sad so.
    Mount the Cannons and Bury this game at sea people



  • Originally posted by miccav


    Everyone I know have boycotted SOE cuz of their incompetence with SWG. I know it sounds extreme but if they did this to SWG, who says they won't do it to their other products. We don't want to encourage this behavior with subscriptions, otherwise other MMOG companies would follow in their footsteps. IMO, the NGE is a de-evolution in the MMOG industry, not just product-wise, but the company as a whole. They're a bad rolemodel. Imagine your favorite MMOG, cutting your choice of classes in half (but everyone chooses only one class), taking all that you've accomplished and throwing it down the drain. SOE has lost touch, I can't understand how a company can make so many mistakes and still be so optimistic about their failure. If they showed some understanding and compassion in the beginning, I'd respect them a little more. But to late for that. I'd love to see them file Chapter 11. But that's only a dream. I'm sorry I sound harsh, but they pissed me (and everyone I know) off.



    I would have to say that SWG was more of a warning example than a bad rolemodel. SOE didn't set the standard of anything, they simply did something EXTREMELY foolish. From all this, I don't see how the other MMOGs will follow in their footsteps, especially after the not-so-quiet community uproar. SOE just shot themselves in the feet, so to speak. Though I don't see why the SWG team isn't to blame, SOE runs EQ2 and Planetside as well, both of which are slightly entertaining...

  • chekovchekov Member Posts: 1

    I really wonder if they really believe what they say.   He talks about new abilities for jedi in pub 27 lol.  Lets see they added a new offensive buff and defensieve buff oh but wait they also took away the old offensive and defensive buff.  Opps just a name change.  And not only that you used to be able to use them together now you can't.  You can only use one or the other not both.  Another oops.  Lets see they added an area strike.  The timer spins so long  once you use it the only thing its good for is to agro everything on you so you can die and travel quicker.  Hmm thats a good ability to have.  Lets see an ability to see hidden objects and players.  hmmm another player cloaked and it didn't detect them so wonder what good that one is.  Oh and the cloaking ability which works about 25% of the time and you can't move or do anything or it goes away.  Its pretty useless too as you can't rely on it.  Oh and what they don't tell you that they changed is the silent nerfs that you have to find out for yourself by getting killed when the timer on your heal is longer.   Its also really fun to play a game that is so limited in scope especialy when the specials fire and the timers run but they don't have any effect at all either for you (if a heal) or on the enemy you are in combat with.  The max i've had is 4 in a row  that fire and don't have an effect as after that you die anyway so you don't have time to try anymore.  Thats a really special ability that they give their players.  Its no wonder they got rid of decay cause evyerone dies all the time due to all the bugs and poor design of a game that had such promise but only keeps getting worse.  So do you really believe that when you say you've added all of these abilities that is real or just marketing nonsense meant to feed the press and people who haven't played your game before.  I also like his comment about bringing back the features that most people liked from previous versions.  LOL   They take away the features then give them back to you and call them new.  Cloaking was in the game way before the genius's at SOE dreamed up NGE.  All of the new abilities were abilities we used to have, they were taken away and now put back in in a statment that makes them useless only to have them 'fixed' later.  Its your classic bait and switch.  The reason people don't play your game anymore is that you have broken their trust with your constant nerfs of the basic combat system, bugs, poor customer service and arrogance that you and only you know what you are doing.  You don't because the reviews, the customer enrollment going down, the empty servers, and general dissatisfaction with the game proves you wrong.  SOE is SAD.  The only reason I still play is I still have a lot of friends there and we are all looking for a new game to play.  SWG is still our base till we find this game.   The only time SOE is telling you whats really going on is when they aren't saying anything.

  • Trystan365Trystan365 Member Posts: 23

    That informative (read: forced civility, no information, typical SOE/Lucasfilm arrogance, playerbase disdain) just reinforces why I will never play another SOE game.  SOE just has complete disdain and disrespect for it's playerbase.

  • ybbot11ybbot11 Member UncommonPosts: 4

    I feel raped after 1.5 year of good soe.swg .after the "update" go f.u.s soe u have steel 1.5 yaers of my life

  • Mattbell69Mattbell69 Member UncommonPosts: 58

    I played this game from the begining for two years! It was great fun at the start, the way the game played. The current version is pants, total pants! The only way I would EVER consider playing it again would be for to be rolled back right to it's original form. I must have spent hours, no days, no weeks, you get the picture.... on this game.

    It has never been the same and never will until they roll it right back!

  • ShiiShii Member Posts: 1

    All I Can Say is, Unless You Still Play i like a lot of us do, and still enjoy it, Dont comment for us.

    And FYI, Running 2 Databases and sets of servers is simply too unfeasible for SoE to do now, They need money to do that (Therefore they dont have the technology, therefore they dont have the resources), so unsusbscibing in some petulent way of protesting just kind of ruins your own request.

  • Max_StrikerMax_Striker Member UncommonPosts: 263
    MMORPG.com: Recently, server population numbers circulated online that someone allegedly uncovered. Can you comment on the accuracy of these numbers?
    Casey Keefe:

    We never have and never will comment in regards to subscriber and player numbers.

    Hahaha they will never comment this because the population numbers went down like crazy, nad i hope they are loosing a lot of money :D


    MMORPG.com: What gameplay changes are currently on the developer’s agenda. Can you run us through some areas you plan to address – via patches – in the near future?
    Casey Keefe:

    In addition to bug fixing and addressing other issues, the team is hard at work on introducing new content for each of the professions. You may have noticed the recent Publish 27 which added several new abilities to the Jedi profession. In addition to adding new abilities for each profession (not just Jedi), we plan on re-introducing specialization within professions via skills that will allow players to differentiate themselves more from others in the same profession.

    And now they realized the crap that profession system has became after NGE and they are trying to make it more like it was before LOL, pathetic...


    MMORPG.com: What message do you have to those players who quit Star Wars Galaxies after the NGE update?
    Casey Keefe:

    After hearing the reasons why players left, we have gathered that feedback and used it in deciding future elements of the game. Even though we aren’t “rolling back” the game, we hope to re-introduce some of the older elements that players enjoyed in the context of the new direction of the game, such as what we are aiming to do with the specialization elements. Our hope is that reintroduction of these elements will draw said players back to the game.

    SOE will never get players back to the game, NGE is crap pure and simple. And theres a new hope with SWG monster-server, lts play again the good old real SWG. Weeeeeeeeeeee screw SOE!

  • WufaWufa Member Posts: 132


    Originally posted by Guillermo197

    It's time we return the favor to SOE by ignoring them! Like they ignored us all this time and still are!
    Let's all move on! There is so much out there and who knows what Perpetual Entertainment will pull off with Star Trek Online! It's at least a title to look forward too! They at least take their Star Trek Fanbase seriously and have held polls on what the fans would like to see in STO! And don't forget current active games like EVE Online (Wich Im playing now!) where CCP is doing a great job!

    I agree, but you have to admit watching the bad press, and the interviews like the one conducted here are very entertaing (way more than the NGE is). Plus watching them squirm, and now resort to publicly begging players, by paying them to join a focus group, and they are asking former, and current players is kinda funny. Dance puppets dance. This right now, is about making a statement to the companies of this game. If you screw with your community, you're going to get screwed and we're not going to just go away! So think on that before making changes.

    And that I think is the point of the former SWG community now. Personnally I am playing WoW and enjoying it, but watching and reading the SWG drama, and staying in touch with my fellow former players is AWESOME.

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  • MinimumMinimum Member UncommonPosts: 236



    Originally posted by Shii

    All I Can Say is, Unless You Still Play i like a lot of us do, and still enjoy it, Dont comment for us.
    And FYI, Running 2 Databases and sets of servers is simply too unfeasible for SoE to do now, They need money to do that (Therefore they dont have the technology, therefore they dont have the resources), so unsusbscibing in some petulent way of protesting just kind of ruins your own request.



    Unsubscribing is the ONLY power a player has.  It's the ONLY thing developers will listen to.

    And Julio already has said they could run rollback servers if they wanted. 

    But lets assume your right, lets assume they are actually telling the truth.  How the heck would we know?  They have made dishonesty into a corporate policy. 

    But, they can run them.  They have chosen not too.  And not a one of them is man enough to admit to their mistakes.  They'd rather disrespect players on TV like Julio did.  

    Screw the lot of them.   It'll be interesting to see if any of them ever get a real job again.  This won't look good on their resume.

  • nbfinenbfine Member Posts: 2
    Well I called in to request to be part of the new focus group.  I still have an account on Valcyn, but rarely log on.  I just hope and pray SOE can throw up at least a couple of classic SWG (pre-CU) servers.  They will soon be putting up more because a lot (and I mean a LOT) of vets will come back.  Instead of overhauling the system when numbers decreased slightly, make small enhancements based on feedback.  If you really poll the players hard and test for a sufficient period of time, this game could run indefinitely.  Seriously.  So even tho I'm P.O.'d at SOE for this fiasco, it's not too late to make it right!!!  Oh also, I WOULD be playing SWG right this moment if we had a playable game, instead of reading all these #$%& posts!!!
  • jkhurt15jkhurt15 Member Posts: 10

    no comment? What is that about? Is he secretary General of the UN or criminal or something? Obviously his bosses told him not to comment on the issue. What a waste of time for the interviewer.

    I love Star Wars and wasn't able to play early on because of deployment, so I monitor the SOE-Opera to see if its worth going back too. Would the Game Vets have liked the game at all if it started out with NGE? Is there anything still fun about the game, because even the Casey Keefe makes it sound horrible.

  • jkhurt15jkhurt15 Member Posts: 10

    Sorry for double post

  • AbandonedAbandoned Member Posts: 10



    Originally posted by ybbot11

    I feel raped after 1.5 year of good soe.swg .after the "update" go f.u.s soe u have steel 1.5 yaers of my life



    haha, me too... me too
  • chlaoschlaos Member Posts: 1,118



    Originally posted by Lepidus


    Casey Keefe, the Community and Press Relations Manager at LucasArts, recently spoke to MMORPG.com about the past, present and future of Star Wars Galaxies. Here is what he had to say:



    image MMORPG.com: What message do you have to those players who quit Star Wars Galaxies after the NGE update?
    Casey Keefe: After hearing the reasons why players left, we have gathered that feedback and used it in deciding future elements of the game. Even though we aren’t “rolling back” the game, we hope to re-introduce some of the older elements that players enjoyed in the context of the new direction of the game, such as what we are aiming to do with the specialization elements. Our hope is that reintroduction of these elements will draw said players back to the game.
    You can read the entire Q&A here.



     The game is a wreck, and they need to be held accountable.   I know you have to use a certain amount of tact, and that he didnt even answer the questions you asked but I would have liked to have seen questions about the uproar that is evident from their actions.  

    It is funny though how the art of "spin" has come to be more important that actual actions in our society.   It seems to all be about what image you can put out there, regardless of the truth.   Nevrmind that none of it would be necessarry with some basic businesss ethics and the release of a quality product.  

    Jeez, "no comment".   LOL...he might as well have said no ones playing this game but if I tell you that I wont be able to collect a paycheck while we shut the game down.   

    Oh well, thanks for trying.......image


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  • 25czerwca25czerwca Member Posts: 1

    U all lucky, i was waiting for such game looong looong time (20 years)image. I was a late beta tester, than i was waiting loooong looong time again (3 months, but it was like eons) till i coutd play it again (problems in eastern europe with getting a copy). Finally i was able to make my dreams come true. I was liveing in SW universe.image

    disks with beta 20$ for UPS

    SWG Special Edition 79$ + 20$ for UPS

    ...and all money spent for monthly payments...

    Now i will spent all my money for cureing from addiction to SWG because i tried hard (6 months now) and i cannot find anything good in NGE. imageI'm so desperate that i'm seriously thinking of geting married again... image

    P.S. an average sallary in my country is like 200$

     

  • abel5405abel5405 Member Posts: 23

    This sounds like a press release for a game that's in Beta and just getting ready for retail.  I can't belive people are still paying to play this.  There going to "reintroduce" some old game features?  Ummm, are we supposed to be jumping for joy here? image

    SOE and LA took a game that was unique, engaging, and emersive, and dumbed it down to a level where it resembles Quake with a Star Wars skin on it.  The uniqness that was Star Wars was not in it's combat system, but it's non-combat and support professions.  It was a pure please not to feel as though I had to grind every night to get some where in the game, unless you wanted to be Jedi wich should have been a hard profession to get ANYWAY.

    Anyway, I will end by just saying that they, (SOE/LA) broke the game to an unplayable state and expected the players to continue to pay THEM (SOE/LA) while they (SOE/LA) REDEVELOPE THE GAME and bring it back to a simple stable state.  I mean a live prodcut being paid for by customers was taken AWAY from it's customers under less then honorable/ethical means and substituted for a beta product and forced to either pay for it's development or cancle your account if you don't like it.  I personaly can not see spending a dime on any long term subscription based product from either SOE or LA with business practicases such has the ones used in the managment of this IP. image

     

     

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    I love the "We have never commented on subscriber numbers"

    LOL I call BS.  I specifically remember when they gleefully announced 300k subs and growing blah blah and they comment that "80%" of their current subs are vets blah blah.

    They won't say the numbers because they know if they do the 'faithful few' will abandon them because their delusions will be destroyed.

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  • qaplaqapla Member Posts: 1

    I played SWG since launch and promptly cancelled my account after the lies and bugs from the developers.  I just have one question/comment:

    How do you(SOE/LA) expect people to keep paying for a game that is broken, can still be exploited and is incomplete?  I would love to return.  I still read the SWG forums.  It is the same as always, empty promises.  I remember posts of the combat changes that were scheduled for pub 11.  Those estimates were wrong.  Now I read posts about bringing bases back in Pub 30 and 28 isn't even finished let alone all the bugs.  Send me an invite back to SWG when you are finished with it.  Why would I pay you $90 until pub 30 comes for bases, just to get hosed when they will be bugged(and that is your track record, not my imagination).  I miss that game and I loved what is was and could have been.  I think you all should be fired, the game free and a new development house take over SWG 2.

     

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  • FignarFignar Member CommonPosts: 417

    I played for about 2.5 years enjoyed the game before the CU started to dislike it after the CU as it ruined Armor crafting by making it simple and the fact that the lvl system for me made armor and anything crafted worthless. Totally hate the game in its current state. If they they do put classic servers up the question I have why should i come back? Is the game still gonna be run by a company that shafted its vets....yes it is. Is the game still going to an unfinished state nearly 3 years after its release....yes it is. Will SOE still make broken promises and more then likely release buggy unfinished updates and crap expansion packs .....more then likely yes they will. Is Lucas Arts going to continue to make suggestions on how to improve the game.....more then likely yes.

    So if i were a Veteran pondering on the idea of coming back I would ask those very same questions and if the answer to those is yes i wouldn't even bother wasting my money on it. Until there are drastic changes with in SOE's internal structure and its current "must make money at all costs " approach i would just stay away from any game they touch in the future.

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  • Mountaineer7Mountaineer7 Member Posts: 1

    My bro and I did a bunch of research today because we heard a rumor that there is going to be 2 classic servers soon for players that loved the original SWG.  My bro played from Day 1 of the game.  I joined later and was addicted.  Several of my friends at work joined and played on the same server.  We have all quit and can't find another game to play online because we compare them all to pre so-called "SWG:  Game Enhancements".  My bro completely quit.  My account is active only because of my "Station Access".  I actually logged into the game today because of a little excitement....only to be let down with this interview.  Needless to say...cancelling entire SOE account.image

  • Tsotha-LantiTsotha-Lanti Member Posts: 8

    Casey Keefe: "We never have and never will comment in regards to subscriber and player numbers".

    Lovely! ::::02:: The guys at CCP running EVE Online never have and never will have any sort of trouble with talking about their player numbers ::::29::

    MMORPG.com: You acknowledged in your last producer letter that one major flaw with the NGE’s introduction was broken content and that it was your goal to fix that. How did this happen in the first place?

    Casey Keefe: No comment.

    Most lovely! lol! ::::31:: SOE bollocksed up and they are still trying to find out why! lmao! ::::12::

    Heh, nice interview, Dana. I enjoyed reading it. ::::08::

    Tsotha-Lanti

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