Originally posted by Kilikan ok, i havent tried ddo and i might be soon but im really not impress by this, i has clearly hoping for a new wow. I played pen and paper dungeon & dragon for 5 year and i got over 1000$ wort books, box set, world, dungeons, races, monsters, quest . I was reading those while thinking of this game. If i was a game developper and started a game in the world of krynn man ill be rich by now. *sigh* I was really hoping for more content that, i got book that describe event for 3 years, day by day for the players cuz i was the dm (dungeons master) think about it 3 years of plot, quest, wars, invasions, magic, heroes, event, u names it. I got over 10 quest 1-15 story driven quest. Developpers dont have even to think about the quest, just render it. How hard can that be? Wow, everquest do better work right now. This game doesnt sound serious to me or agressive enough to take is place.
How lame do you have to be to have never tried a game and start a thread about how that game has failed? People like you shouldn't be allowed to play MMORPG's.
Haven't tried it? Don't complain about it! Don't like it? Unsubscribe PLEASE and shut up about it! I liked it. I play it. Go whine on the Shadowbane forums and let us enjoy what we like. Shut up and GO AWAY! Tired of logging in to read about a game others and I enjoy and instead I see 10 threads written by $%@#*&; who have obviously never played the game and are just rewritting other people's opinions from early beta without giving the original poster credit (discredit more like it). Some people just like to see themselves in print. PLEASE feel free to play some other game and post ANYWHERE else. Ii is the American way. It is also my right to ignore any future opinions you have.
Haven't tried it? Don't complain about it! Don't like it? Unsubscribe PLEASE and shut up about it! I liked it. I play it. Go whine on the Shadowbane forums and let us enjoy what we like. Shut up and GO AWAY! Tired of logging in to read about a game others and I enjoy and instead I see 10 threads written by $%@#*&; who have obviously never played the game and are just rewritting other people's opinions from early beta without giving the original poster credit (discredit more like it). Some people just like to see themselves in print. PLEASE feel free to play some other game and post ANYWHERE else. Ii is the American way. It is also my right to ignore any future opinions you have.
Originally posted by Gluegun Haven't tried it? Don't complain about it! Don't like it? Unsubscribe PLEASE and shut up about it! I liked it. I play it. Go whine on the Shadowbane forums and let us enjoy what we like. Shut up and GO AWAY! Tired of logging in to read about a game others and I enjoy and instead I see 10 threads written by $%@#*&; who have obviously never played the game and are just rewritting other people's opinions from early beta without giving the original poster credit (discredit more like it). Some people just like to see themselves in print. PLEASE feel free to play some other game and post ANYWHERE else. Ii is the American way. It is also my right to ignore any future opinions you have.
It is also our right to express our displeasure of this game. If you do not want to read about it, don't do it. That is your right.
FWIW, I got the game, installed it, played it for half an hour before quitting and deleting it.
Didn't meet my expectations. Maybe I'll try it again when I have more time to get into it, but I just don't have time to learn another new game with a wholly new and different way of doing things.
Originally posted by Razorback Well lets inject a little fact then shall we. I'm still looking for the facts you interjected. Turbine offered players what most of you say you want with AC2. Big expansive environment, crafting, city building, grinding in open areas etc etc etc... and all that good WoW type stuff. We all know what happened to AC2. There is a bit of truth to this, but what you are leaving out is the HORRIBLE release, the incredible number of bugs that never got fixed, the fact that the devs promised the world on relase and delivered NONE of it. I mean if you look at early press releases, then played AC2, you'd think the press releases were talking about a different game. THIS is what killed the game, not the expansive enviornments, and the ability to grind, those are the things that kept it hanging on so long. In many ways it would be fair to argue that devs cant win with some people. This is absolutely true. Look at SWG. Turbine obviously licked their wounds after AC2 and thought "ok WoW has proven that you dont need depth, complexity, immediate content, detailed crafting systems or any of that stuff to be successful". " And you're defending that philosophy? We have a name here with D&D and we can either try and copy WoW and AC2's model, or we can try as hard as we can to strike a balance between PnP D&D and MMO gaming". ..and came up with neither. They've taken away pretty much everything that makes a PnP D&D game fun and interesting, then eliminated the best parts of an MMO. Great ideas there fellas. Imho they got it about as perfectly right as they possibly could. Then you had some pretty low expectations. Is the game for everyone ? HELL NO. Is the game enjoyble for those that really GET what Turbine is trying to achieve, HELL YES! Don't act like you understand some cosmic mystery and that's why you find DDO enjoyable and we only bash it because we aren't as enlightened as you. Here I've got 30 seconds to kill, I'll make everyone as enlightened as you: Turbine saw a way to make a quick buck. The realized they got a great name is D&D and all they really needed to do was throw some crap together and rake in the cash. If anything is too complicated, we'll just nix it or change it to make it easier (Crafting, Bonus HP's, spell points). There now we all "get what Turbine was trying to accomplish" just as well as you. I almost cancelled my pre-order after reading the official forums for weeks before my copy arrived as the Oz release was 2 weeks late, so I got to read LOTS of very negative stuff all from players with the same gripes.
Cant heal/regen in dungeons Cant solo Not enough content Well Im so glad I didnt listen to them because this game just happens to suit me down to the ground. I only have 3-5 hours per day MAX between about 7pm and midnight when I get home from work to play these days. My days of 14 hour sessions in EQ1 are long gone. I have a fulltime job a mortgage and a family so D&D just hits the nail right on the head for me. I can log in, have a good adventure with no "work/grind" like every other MMO on the market you want to name. I play, I enjoy, I log out, feels like heaven. I'm glad you enjoy the game, but there are a few things to consider here: Pretty much EVERYONE is saying the exact same thing, doesn't that at least deserver some looking into? Let's not forget to even post on their forums you have to be a paying subscriber. If this is a failed game, then I wish more devs would fail this bad. If this is a backward step from AC1 (which I played for almost 2 years) then they can keep heading backwards as fast as they want. It re-introduces an element to MMO gaming combat that we havnt seen since the days of UO year 1. This rare element is something that has been completely lost since EQ1 refined a playstyle that didnt require it. This element is known as SKILL!! Yes skill instead of pure math. Maybe thats why many poeple have trouble enjoying the game. Here we go again. Do you find it odd that the only way you can defend this game is pretend you're better than the people bashing it? Your claim that you have SKILL that's why you enjoy and we don't so that's why we bash it are idiotic, in the same vein that you're" in" on some mystery of the universe and only those so elightened can enjoy it. To this I say, get over yourself. You are no more skillful, or enlightened than the rest of us. Why don't you just leave it as: I like the game because___________. It would give you so much more credibilty than trying to convince people that only the uber skilled, highly enlightened people will enjoy the game. Sorry to burst you bubble but no one believes that. Second, let me clear the myth up: It doesn't take skill, it doesn't take tactics, all it takes is spinning like a top mashing the mouse as fast as you can. If that's you're definition of skill I see why you feel the need to make yourself feel better by telling everyone you're this highly enlightened super skilled being.
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Didn't meet my expectations. Maybe I'll try it again when I have more time to get into it, but I just don't have time to learn another new game with a wholly new and different way of doing things.
Exactly, Jodokai and to rub salt on the wound, the same complaints that are seen here, are also seen there at the official site forum.