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Hate to be a killjoy, but...

rkabyrnerkabyrne Member Posts: 72

BIOWARE is NOT taking over SWG.  Want proof?

 

Go to www.bioware.com
Go to Bioware Info, then Jobs at Bioware at the top.
Go to Bioware Austin Jobs
Go to one of the positions being offered.
Scroll down to Skill Set section.

READ THE FIRST BULLET ITEM:

Familiarity with fantasy role-playing games is a must.

 

As we all know, The Bioware Austin was setup specifically for the FIRST and ONLY MMO being made by Bioware.  And last time I checked, SWG was NOT Fantasy but Sci-Fi.  And besides, BW is going to take one of their products and go MMO - much like Blizzard has done with their Warcraft series.

I know this is not definitive or anything, but it is not wild speculation either.  They specifically say FANTASY...which I think is boring and over done.  Another Fantasy MMO is about a exciting as a MMO Tetris.

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  • GrimReapezGrimReapez Member Posts: 463

    When most people think if MMORPG's they think of the Fantasy genre.

    Mainly because there are more fantasy out there, by asking for people with fantasy role-playing games it would interest the bigger crowd.

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    Do not hate it, but instead embrace the diversity.

  • rkabyrnerkabyrne Member Posts: 72
    I hear what you are saying, but come on.  Industry professionals trying to attract other industry professionals do not need to "broaden their communications".  They do not need to use the least common denominator to attract developers...rather they really want to minimize the amount of fluff they receive - IE they do NOT want every Tom Dick and Smed applying for the position.  They would much rather have a few select applications to review than 20394857 losers to weed through.

    DM: Let me get this right: The dragons breath knocks you over the 300' cliff onto the jagged rocks below and you want a saving throw?

  • JediGeekJediGeek Member Posts: 446

    Just a question...
    Do you even READ many professional industry job postings?

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  • rkabyrnerkabyrne Member Posts: 72
    Yes.  Daily.  And the first thing that deters me from them is vagueness or non-specific requirements.  Such as requesting fantasy experience when the project is Sci-Fi.  Every GOOD position has detail requirements of what they are looking for, especially if they are looking for honest to goodness developers versus management.

    DM: Let me get this right: The dragons breath knocks you over the 300' cliff onto the jagged rocks below and you want a saving throw?

  • Dark_Lord_13Dark_Lord_13 Member Posts: 248

    Well, I read the title, and then I read what you had to say, and they seem contradictory.

    I think you're glad to be the killjoy, but that's my opinion.

    Now, for me, I'll be completely honest and say that I know it's hopeful thinking, because I hate SOE, and I hate what SWG has turned into. 

    But here's my arguement to your speculations

    Websters dictionary says that Fantasy in this context is "imaginative fiction featuring esp. strange settings and grotesque characters - called also fantasy fiction."

    With this definition and the understanding of what type of "grotesque characters" exist within the realm of Star Wars, isn't it reasonable to assume that the reason they want people who have knowledge in fantasy MMO's is because they want people who are able to capture the "strange settings and grotesque characters" that lie within the Star Wars universe?

    Oh, and in my opinion, what you provided was not proof, it was simply your interpretation of what may or may not be fact.  Let's face it, all of this is heresay and speculation, and until there is a press release saying something about LucasArts, Star Wars Galaxies, SOE, Bioware, or any of the other rumors, everyone is going to think they know the answer.  All we have to do is wait and see who turned out to be right.

    My hopes are with BIOWARE, but meanwhile, my $ will go to Blizzard.

  • azhrarnazhrarn Member Posts: 817


    Originally posted by Dark_Lord_13

    Websters dictionary says that Fantasy in this context is "imaginative fiction featuring esp. strange settings and grotesque characters - called also fantasy fiction."

    Not to be confused with fan fiction which is placing popular fictitious characters in imaginative and strange settings doing grotesque things with anthropomorphic sheep people (usually representing the writer who has never in their lives had even the hope of reproducing).

    /squick!

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  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    You know in all my time on this earth I have learned one thing.

    People who say 'I hate to be a killjoy, but..." really don't hate to be a killjoy.

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  • Dark_Lord_13Dark_Lord_13 Member Posts: 248



    Originally posted by Shayde

    You know in all my time on this earth I have learned one thing.
    People who say 'I hate to be a killjoy, but..." really don't hate to be a killjoy.
    ::::18::::::31::



    /agree
  • admriker444admriker444 Member Posts: 1,526
    Read SWG's EULA...it specifically refers to SWG as a fantasy thingie. This has been rebuffed several times already on other forums but someone keeps bringing it back up
  • matraquematraque Member Posts: 1,431


    Originally posted by rkabyrne
    BIOWARE is NOT taking over SWG. Want proof?

    Go to www.bioware.comGo to Bioware Info, then Jobs at Bioware at the top.Go to Bioware Austin JobsGo to one of the positions being offered.Scroll down to Skill Set section.
    READ THE FIRST BULLET ITEM:
    Familiarity with fantasy role-playing games is a must.

    As we all know, The Bioware Austin was setup specifically for the FIRST and ONLY MMO being made by Bioware. And last time I checked, SWG was NOT Fantasy but Sci-Fi. And besides, BW is going to take one of their products and go MMO - much like Blizzard has done with their Warcraft series.
    I know this is not definitive or anything, but it is not wild speculation either. They specifically say FANTASY...which I think is boring and over done. Another Fantasy MMO is about a exciting as a MMO Tetris.

    it does not matters. If you are skilled in a fantasy RPG, why can't you be in a Sci-fi one ? It's to see if the peeps have experiences, thats all.

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  • GrimtoastGrimtoast Member Posts: 16

    hehehe, I started a thread over at the SWG official forums just showing a link to the bioware site's job posting for a lead MMO combat system designer.

    Only 20,048 more minutes to go before that ban lifts.

     

    *rubs sore bum from banstick beating*

     

     

  • MeFartsSmellMeFartsSmell Member Posts: 225
    I love being a killjoy Its like taking a guy and smiling at him as you kick him right up under behind his nut sack and then laugh. The only problem with me being a killjoy, is that I have no friggn idea what the hell I am talking about half the time.

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  • GrimtoastGrimtoast Member Posts: 16

    Oh, and additionally - Bioware touts having Rich Vogel bring 15 years' game developing experience to their new Austin studio.

    Rich was recently involved in another Austin, TX MMO project. Anyone recall?

    *hint: he was the executive producer for SWG*

  • pirrgpirrg Member Posts: 1,443

    Oh man am i going to have a blast when bioware doesnt take over swg. You lot are hilarious. ::::02::

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  • GrimtoastGrimtoast Member Posts: 16



    Originally posted by pirrg

    Oh man am i going to have a blast when bioware doesnt take over swg. You lot are hilarious. ::::02::



    Basically stirring the pot passes some time while our database is down here at work. I believe nothing I see in forums and the general rumour mill. But damn if it isn't fun to stir things up a bit. ;)
  • GronksterGronkster Member Posts: 14

    Bioware posted that they will NOT be working on any MMORPG that requires licensing.

    They also posted that they will not work with Lucasarts again.

     

    Wether you want to believe or not - they ARE NOT doing SWG or have anything to do with it.  That's why they turned down KOTOR3.

     

     

  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589



    Originally posted by Gronkster

    Bioware posted that they will NOT be working on any MMORPG that requires licensing.
    They also posted that they will not work with Lucasarts again.
     
    Wether you want to believe or not - they ARE NOT doing SWG or have anything to do with it.  That's why they turned down KOTOR3.
     
     



    Dude.. let them dream for awhile lol
  • Firebird1Firebird1 Member Posts: 222

    Which job offering was it? So far everything I've seen does not say what kind of game it is.

    Although thanks for showing me the job page, I'll have to send them my resume someday.

    As for what happens next, your best guess is as good as this one.

  • Concord7Concord7 Member Posts: 125



    Originally posted by Gronkster

    Bioware posted that they will NOT be working on any MMORPG that requires licensing.
    They also posted that they will not work with Lucasarts again.
     
    Wether you want to believe or not - they ARE NOT doing SWG or have anything to do with it.  That's why they turned down KOTOR3.
     
     


     

    More recent info for you direct from Bioware

    "And yes, my comments about focusing on existing BioWare intellectual properties were pre-MMO announcement."
    James Henley
  • GronksterGronkster Member Posts: 14



    Originally posted by Concord7

    More recent info for you direct from Bioware
    "And yes, my comments about focusing on existing BioWare intellectual properties were pre-MMO announcement."
    James Henley

    Right, because they wanted to go a different direction with the MMO, that doesn't require licensing.  I'm confused.  What are you trying to prove here?

     

     

  • Concord7Concord7 Member Posts: 125



    Originally posted by Gronkster



    Originally posted by Concord7

    More recent info for you direct from Bioware
    "And yes, my comments about focusing on existing BioWare intellectual properties were pre-MMO announcement."
    James Henley

    Right, because they wanted to go a different direction with the MMO, that doesn't require licensing.  I'm confused.  What are you trying to prove here?

     

     


    Here is the page - He is saying that his previous comments are no longer valid.

    http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=473550&forum=41&sp=105

  • beerisgoodbeerisgood Member Posts: 59



    Originally posted by Concord7



    Originally posted by Gronkster



    Originally posted by Concord7

    More recent info for you direct from Bioware
    "And yes, my comments about focusing on existing BioWare intellectual properties were pre-MMO announcement."
    James Henley

    Right, because they wanted to go a different direction with the MMO, that doesn't require licensing.  I'm confused.  What are you trying to prove here?

     

     


    Here is the page - He is saying that his previous comments are no longer valid.

    http://forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=473550&forum=41&sp=105



    Wow, that sounds nice. So it is a possibility, we shall see.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529

    Yeah.. I was reading their forums. Basically he said everything about them working on non-licensed products came BEFORE the MMO announcement.

    So he says the licensed issue is moot, but will neither confirm nor deny... except that it isn't a go-bots project.

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
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  • TigerfyreTigerfyre Member Posts: 13

    Here is a news bit i uncovered, not sure if it will shed any light but ............................... http://gamenewsi.com/index.php?itemid=401&catid=1

    Enjoy

  • PepiDetoPepiDeto Member Posts: 85

    whatever
    we will see what happens as time goes on.  I mean I would know why they would be keeping a lid on it if it was SWG.  It would be to give it time to get all transferred over and stuff before they made the announcement so that way there isn't another mass exodus form the game. 

     

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