Originally posted by Wintermist Ah, but you're forgetting the setting. It's not today. Should you see oiled up men today you would assume them as you do. But pretend it's a fantasy land, of old. It's not gay. It's just a typical "Macho" thing. Of course you can twist this as you wish but so can we, perhaps You alone see this as queer men while other just see it as an adult fantasy world where they can play a brute.
Hehe, I think your taking my post far to seriously but hey, if your comfortable with calling it a macho thing then by all means do so .
As a female, I think it's great how all these guys are exploring this part of their sexuality, good for you boys, keep it up... err I mean, enjoy .
Originally posted by shae You guys are HILLARIOUS. I love how guys can have a conversation about women almost as if they're a 3rd party species of the planet. Anyways, the most comical thing about the guys that I've seen read the Conan lit, and I remember saying this to my brothers, essentially your reading male pornography. I mean seriously, look at one closely, you have huge men with obviously overly exagerated body structures almost always all oiled with sweat and testostorone, you have giant swords/spears/lances being poked around everywhere (hmmm, replacements for what I wonder) and when you look at the core stories behind the Conan lit, they almost always involve a close male friend to Conan getting all chummy and close, wooo, *growl*. To top it all off, I'm pretty sure all the scandily clad females in the illustrated versions were always added for that little bit of comfort for the boys. So they could say to themselves: "Uhm yeah, right, I'm reading this for the girls and fightng...uh, yeah ." Hehe you boys, always hidding somethign aren't yah .
Not the place to talk about this, but pornography "for men" is nearly always in this way... the male must be present on the image, physically, or ellipticaly, or the pornographic image doesn't "function".
Any way, you are right on the macho man with oiled muscles and big phallic two handed symbols thing!
I think there will be many women playing AoC - all the female players I know are interested, and I know MANY female players (well, I can say I know more women than men in the gaming world!)...
but I think also many... let's say: sexually challenged male will play because they are attracted by the blood, nudity , violence, suggested pronography, and slavery of the game. Nothing can be done against that...
Let's hope the community will be mainly mature and self-controled.
And, as a side note, I hope women character won't have to wear "two square inches plate armour"... No point in exposing anatomy when life is at stake.
Originally posted by shae Hehe, I think your taking my post far to seriously but hey, if your comfortable with calling it a macho thing then by all means do so . As a female, I think it's great how all these guys are exploring this part of their sexuality, good for you boys, keep it up... err I mean, enjoy .
Hmm well, I'm 31. I've no own standard of what is macho. But I think it general opinion that's what this would be called. I'm a soft and hard all at once. I can cry to Extreme Home Makeover as they help all those in need. I can shun those who put themselves in a situation of need, if they are themselves to blame.
Either way, why I like this game is that it's not all cute and cuddly like all the rest. There are no damn elven archers and ugly gnomes. And I'm not taking your post too serious, I was just reading what you said hehe.
Not the place to talk about this, but pornography "for men" is nearly always in this way... the male must be present on the image, physically, or ellipticaly, or the pornographic image doesn't "function".
Any way, you are right on the macho man with oiled muscles and big phallic two handed symbols thing!
I think there will be many women playing AoC - all the female players I know are interested, and I know MANY female players (well, I can say I know more women than men in the gaming world!)...
but I think also many... let's say: sexually challenged male will play because they are attracted by the blood, nudity , violence, suggested pronography, and slavery of the game. Nothing can be done against that...
Let's hope the community will be mainly mature and self-controled.
And, as a side note, I hope women character won't have to wear "two square inches plate armour"... No point in exposing anatomy when life is at stake.
Oh I completely agree with the pinked out quote you mentioned up there, which is why I posted in this thread to begin with.
I had a couple of options here, I could have taken out my usual neo-feminist crazy-girl hat and went on a tagent about how the female body shouldn't be talk about like it's a peice of meat and blah blah blah, but it's a game, what purpose would that have served?
Or I could have pointed out the obvious, that there's a stunningly dubious amount of underlying male sexual tension in the talked about illustrated stories of Conan. In other words, how can I be offended with the over-sexed use of the female body when the male's are just as targeted, for both the female and male readers (whether those males admit it or not).
Either way, it's a game and I agree with you, I think lots of female gamers are going to get really into it, boy's in leather loin clothes I say again!!! C'mon, can't beat that .
Originally posted by ladylore Originally posted by shae You guys are HILLARIOUS. I love how guys can have a conversation about women almost as if they're a 3rd party species of the planet. Anyways, the most comical thing about the guys that I've seen read the Conan lit, and I remember saying this to my brothers, essentially your reading male pornography. I mean seriously, look at one closely, you have huge men with obviously overly exagerated body structures almost always all oiled with sweat and testostorone, you have giant swords/spears/lances being poked around everywhere (hmmm, replacements for what I wonder) and when you look at the core stories behind the Conan lit, they almost always involve a close male friend to Conan getting all chummy and close, wooo, *growl*. To top it all off, I'm pretty sure all the scandily clad females in the illustrated versions were always added for that little bit of comfort for the boys. So they could say to themselves: "Uhm yeah, right, I'm reading this for the girls and fightng...uh, yeah ." Hehe you boys, always hidding somethign aren't yah .
What Shae, do you expect straight males to openly admit that ALL attractive people, regardless of their gender, are entertaining to look at? They are not like us women who can readily admit that another female is good-looking. Let them look at their Conan books in peace. If its got hot gals AND guys in it, then heck, maybe I need to check it out myself.
And by the way...I personally sorta agree and disagree with you. I do tend to think that men running around half naked with other men, regardless of what activity they are engaged in, as kinda "fruity". But that's okay, that just means that they are comfortable with their sexuality, which makes them even hotter IMO.
Oh, and boys - it isn't really about whether or not big boobs or small boobs are better. Neither are. It is all about the proportion of the woman. The ideal woman is shaped like an hourglass. Small boobs are good on a woman with small hips, but not on a woman with large hips. And vice versa.
Originally posted by Kraptor Originally posted by ladylore Oh, and boys - it isn't really about whether or not big boobs or small boobs are better. Neither are. It is all about the proportion of the woman. The ideal woman is shaped like an hourglass. Small boobs are good on a woman with small hips, but not on a woman with large hips. And vice versa.
No, big boobs are always better...period..:):):)
I'm sorry, I'm on my back with laughter. If you take a look at your signature in regards to what you just said you will know why I'm laughing too.
Originally posted by shae Originally posted by Wintermist Ah, but you're forgetting the setting. It's not today. Should you see oiled up men today you would assume them as you do. But pretend it's a fantasy land, of old. It's not gay. It's just a typical "Macho" thing. Of course you can twist this as you wish but so can we, perhaps You alone see this as queer men while other just see it as an adult fantasy world where they can play a brute.
Hehe, I think your taking my post far to seriously but hey, if your comfortable with calling it a macho thing then by all means do so .
As a female, I think it's great how all these guys are exploring this part of their sexuality, good for you boys, keep it up... err I mean, enjoy .
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Hehe, I think your taking my post far to seriously but hey, if your comfortable with calling it a macho thing then by all means do so
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As a female, I think it's great how all these guys are exploring this part of their sexuality, good for you boys, keep it up... err I mean, enjoy
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Any way, you are right on the macho man with oiled muscles and big phallic two handed symbols thing!
I think there will be many women playing AoC - all the female players I know are interested, and I know MANY female players (well, I can say I know more women than men in the gaming world!)...
but I think also many... let's say: sexually challenged male will play because they are attracted by the blood, nudity , violence, suggested pronography, and slavery of the game. Nothing can be done against that...
Let's hope the community will be mainly mature and self-controled.
And, as a side note, I hope women character won't have to wear "two square inches plate armour"... No point in exposing anatomy when life is at stake.
Hmm well, I'm 31. I've no own standard of what is macho. But I think it general opinion that's what this would be called. I'm a soft and hard all at once. I can cry to Extreme Home Makeover as they help all those in need. I can shun those who put themselves in a situation of need, if they are themselves to blame.
Either way, why I like this game is that it's not all cute and cuddly like all the rest. There are no damn elven archers and ugly gnomes. And I'm not taking your post too serious, I was just reading what you said hehe.
Oh I completely agree with the pinked out quote you mentioned up there, which is why I posted in this thread to begin with.
I had a couple of options here, I could have taken out my usual neo-feminist crazy-girl hat and went on a tagent about how the female body shouldn't be talk about like it's a peice of meat and blah blah blah, but it's a game, what purpose would that have served?
Or I could have pointed out the obvious, that there's a stunningly dubious amount of underlying male sexual tension in the talked about illustrated stories of Conan. In other words, how can I be offended with the over-sexed use of the female body when the male's are just as targeted, for both the female and male readers (whether those males admit it or not).
Either way, it's a game and I agree with you, I think lots of female gamers are going to get really into it, boy's in leather loin clothes I say again!!! C'mon, can't beat that
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What Shae, do you expect straight males to openly admit that ALL attractive people, regardless of their gender, are entertaining to look at? They are not like us women who can readily admit that another female is good-looking. Let them look at their Conan books in peace. If its got hot gals AND guys in it, then heck, maybe I need to check it out myself.
And by the way...I personally sorta agree and disagree with you. I do tend to think that men running around half naked with other men, regardless of what activity they are engaged in, as kinda "fruity". But that's okay, that just means that they are comfortable with their sexuality, which makes them even hotter IMO.
Oh, and boys - it isn't really about whether or not big boobs or small boobs are better. Neither are. It is all about the proportion of the woman. The ideal woman is shaped like an hourglass. Small boobs are good on a woman with small hips, but not on a woman with large hips. And vice versa.
No, big boobs are always better...period..:):):)
I'm sorry, I'm on my back with laughter. If you take a look at your signature in regards to what you just said you will know why I'm laughing too.
Keep it in the same aurora as the orig comics, and things will be fine. If the boobies scare you...cover your eyes and keep hitting the attack button.
Hehe, I think your taking my post far to seriously but hey, if your comfortable with calling it a macho thing then by all means do so
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As a female, I think it's great how all these guys are exploring this part of their sexuality, good for you boys, keep it up... err I mean, enjoy
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haha... Good one!