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Hardcore game?
Hey, I wanted to know if L2 is a hardcore game, where you need to spend 4-6h in some dungeon (WoW players know, what I mean). I'm not a very stable person and my playtime varies about every day, so usually I can play about 2-3h, sometimes 4-6h too.
The case is that I got tired of raiding in WoW, the PvP system wasn't good too. The 4-6h grind trough 1 dungeon got too repetitive and I got tired of it. So, do I have to play hardcore in this game too, to be up to par with other players?
The case is that I got tired of raiding in WoW, the PvP system wasn't good too. The 4-6h grind trough 1 dungeon got too repetitive and I got tired of it. So, do I have to play hardcore in this game too, to be up to par with other players?
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The reason for this is you will have to grind constantly to get -anything-. ie. XP, Money, Gear.
There are virtually no quests that help you reach wealth or highlvl --mostly the only quests worth doing are the class change quests
This game is extremely grindy. If you want to be casual with this game, be prepared to not reach high level until end of 2007
Other than that --I dig this game. The atmosphere is great.
The abundance of Botters and eBayers are a problem tho
i guess you could call l2 a hardcore game although lvl up to 30ish is grind free pretty much anyway. I play the game and i love it i dont mind the need for money or for exp and once i lvl i feel plesed with myself. The pvp if you like it is kinda cool. anywhere anyhow you can take on anyone, bar the starteer villages.
The problem is most people in the game are high levels and the lower levels are alt caracters so you wil have to play a lot to catch up if that is what matters to you. Anyway hope i helped
I wouldn't play this game unless you plan on sticking with it for a few years. It will take you forever (months upon months) to complete your character as is. When C5 comes it will take even longer. To me this is the way an mmo should be. I should be able to log in on my character a year from now (playing the whole year) and still be able to advance my character.
I hear there are some long raids that you can do in the game and seiges, but the majority of your time for the next year probably will be grinding "whack a' mole" style. You have your main class that you will need to grind to 80 and then your sub-class to 80 and then your second sub-class to 80 and then you still have Nobeless to get, so yeah you will have a loooong road ahead of you. I talked to someone in game who plays hardcore and has been for several months and still is only 63 for his main class, he still has 2 more sub-classes to do that with. So yeah, this game has a crazy long grind. I think it is worth it though. Once your done, you will really have something to brag about, plus the armor is just badass. Check The Library on the official website for all of the armor picks.
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Now with that said. I play Lineage 2 and I am casual. I don't even have 3 hours a day to play sometimes. During college when I have class and work, I may only be able to play once a week for about 6 hours on a Saturday night. It has taken me about a year and a half to hit lvl 57, which isn't that high. I had friends that I met in game that started when I did that are already lvl 70+. Many MANY times I find this very discouraging, and it makes me angry that it takes so much of my time. But really, this is the ONLY MMO that has kept my interest. So soon you learn that you don't have to be super powerful, as long as you enjoy the stuff the game can offer you at the moment.
So after seemingly to scare you away, I will tell you that you should buy this game. Give it a go! It has something for everyone, but the high end content doesn't come easy.
Oh yea, and one more thing, when I started playing the game was A LOT harder. Now you should be able to progress faster than I did. Not to mention you can play more than me. You should hit lvl 50 in about 2-3 months if you keep with it for a few hours everyday, esspecailly if you find some good friends.
I wouldn't say all the low levels are alternates. Alot of new players are joining Lineage2....
This game has staying power!
And playing casual is better than not playing at all.
PLAY THIS GAME!!!
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I have to chime in and agree with everyone else. L2 is a huge freaking grind. So much so that it's very nature of being such a grind promotes....botting, adena farmers, illegal private servers, etc. Sure the PvP is a blast but the grind is ridiculous IMHO.
For a PvP oriented game with very lackluster PvE content and quests the grind is too over the top IMHO and so it's the reason why you see so many blantant farmers, botters, and can find private servers. Sure if you play casually you'll be PvE grinding for a long time but who the hell wants to do that if you are into PvP ???
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Yes, I agree with "grinding promotes bots/farmers" especially in this game where money has actual value.
I don't like the grind either but it is in place for a reason. The game is not designed to have everyone hit level cap. Its suppost to "prevent" people from going to fast. Hence the level "xp" walls at higher level. Its to bad they used such an easy out. Without the tough grind you would have all level caps running around. That would mess with the game on a few different levels. For starters it would jack the economy even more.
The grind getting a bit more manageable though.
As far as blantent, yes agreed. However WoW has a much worse peoblem then L2. WoWs farmers are "live" for the most part so it makes them tougher to spot. As far as private servers, there are plenty for WoW also. I just got done with WoW before coming to L2 and I believe its much worse there.
Lineage 2 is not that hardcore game, in my opinion L2 is a easy game to level up.
Theres a lot of hardcore games , more than lineage2.
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Oh well !
Yea its not a hardcore game IF YOU BUY ADENA AND/OR ITEMS AND/OR ACCOUNTS FOR REAL LIFE MONEY....
If you do not engage in these retarded acts of breaking the law the game creators have set forth for you to follow(buying/selling ingame items/money or even accounts are FORBIDDEN), the game will be the most hardcore you have ever played.
I mean why stop the farming, if you stop the farming, then you'll lose many many accounts. Also, since the farmers are profitable, it seems that they're allowing more players to stay interested in the game.
All in all, it's probably more money for them, so why would they crack down on it, or even actively try to curb it?
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There would definitly be more real players playing this game if there were no bots at all. This game is known for being the most bot infested game on the market --and for that reason NCsoft is losing a lot of revenue. NCsoft ban bots regularly, but they don't do it at a fast enough rate since for every bot account banned, two new accounts get created. (The people who own these bot accounts earn real life money when selling ingame money on the internet, and can afford a banned account or two.)
There seems to be an influx of real players lately, which is good. But I see these people leaving when they are confronted with the truth: Lineage 2 is corrupt to the core.
If NCsoft can't figure out a way to stop the botting, even the botters might leave when there are no more people left to sell ingame currency to.
The people who do stay, even though the bot infestation is at an alltime high, are the people who play the game more or less solely for the social aspect (and many of these are the people that buy items/ingame currency on the net). But in all honesty I could never dedicate myself to this game like that because it is a little too shallow. I need something more. I need the feeling of accomplishment to be present --but you won't be able to get that feeling when you see someone run past you with Top-grade gear and they're only two days old on the server.
I'm not resubscribing this month. It's sad to see this game in the state that it is in.
If you, the reader, can handle the shallow gameplay and the corrupt players; then go ahead and play. It's a beautiful game with lots of cool stuff that should be experienced by those who love MMORPGs, even if just for a littlebit.
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Lineage 2 | 5x Silver Ranger, 7x Shillien Elder <- Active
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Anarchy Online | 8x MetaPhysicist
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Waiting for: Age of Conan, Lineage 3
Oh yeah, WoW changes dramaticlly at level 60. People laugh but WoW has some hard core demands if you do the raids or the PvP. Especialy the PvP if you want to climb the ranks. (backside anyone?)
L2 has a moredirect and traditional "grind"
and packman, if you dont like PvE, you won't like L2.
My problem with WoW was that I had to raid every night basically and the raiding was scheduled all the time, but usually I just want to play, when I feel like it.