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Lineage II Growing!

felix77felix77 Member Posts: 84

 It's true. It's more popular then ever. 60% are from Europe but NA players are still activating accounts.

 Chronicle 4 has added a lot of cool content and Chronicle 5 will do even more. C5 is the end of the Chaotic Chronicles and I suspect an expansion for Gracia  (new continent) after.

 Maybe it can bring new player races and classes! Ether way if your thinking about coming I suggest you do. With the growth a new server may be added. That will let you play with people your own level.

 Give it a try now, learn to play. When a new server comes you will know how to play and can be one of the top levels on the server. I'll definetly be on the new server.

 If your new and need help on Sieghart, PM Amborix.

 Us the server forums on L2blah.com, you'll find people even give you free money when your new. L2 is very supportive about helping new players.

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  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    is there any word of a new European server opening? Teon (or whatever the current EU realm is called) is apparently full, i was thinking of reactiviating my account and returning, but i would like an EU realm that isnt full before i empty my wallet for NCsoft again.

  • felix77felix77 Member Posts: 84

     There is a lot of talk. NCsofts last official word is there looking in to ways to deal with the full servers. Then they bought a server and did a server VS. server pvp event.

     I'd say the chances are good. Any new server will be Euro. I just hope they announce it soon. Every new chronicle brings in more people. when the word gets out there starting a whole new direction for future chronicles I think they will be flooded with new accounts.

     I do think after the next free chronicle they may have an expansion.

  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    i thought there were going to be 6 chronicles in total, or at least thats the way it was in Beta. highest level i ever made was level 25, i always enjoyed the game but left for WoW. After playing WoW for a year i want to return to lineage because it offers something WoW can, and thats pride in what you have. I liked the fact no matter what equiptment you had in L2 you always had the satisfaction of know you earned it. In WoW its just a case of runinng an instance with a lvl 60 guy to get the same sword everyone else gets.

  • DarkHeart2DarkHeart2 Member Posts: 493

    NC said there will be 12 in all. Then they will stop with chronicals and just add small addons now and then.
    However, Lineage 3 will be released around C9-10.

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  • MrSilver-Z-MrSilver-Z- Member Posts: 4
    Is the leveling just as bad?
  • DarkHeart2DarkHeart2 Member Posts: 493

    Leveling is not that hard anymore.

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  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255

    may i ask how they have made it easier? As far as im aware and im going on bits ive heard from people but is it true they have raised the level cap to 80, or is it still 75? The last confirmed peice of nes i hear that intrested me was the fact newbies can now swap NG weapons + the difference in Adena for the next weapon up the line.

    Edit: im not saying your wrong or something (the question does sound like that) but im actually genuinely intrested in the steps they made to improve leveling.

  • DarkHeart2DarkHeart2 Member Posts: 493

    The level cap is 78 now.

    The amount of xp for a level has gone down.

    And yes, if you are a noob (meaning you just made your account and your first character) you can swap in a weapon and a little adena and get the next weapon up.

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  • SteakpuncherSteakpuncher Member Posts: 255
    damn, well im not a noob, but if they do bring out another European server (for which i will return) theni guess i wont be swapping weapons lol. No matter, ive managed it before and im sure ill manage it again.
  • EsorllehEsorlleh Member Posts: 129
    The server status may say 'full' but it rarely means that you can't log in. I would still create my char on Bartz or Teon (the two 'full' servers) 'cause it's so much more fun to play where there are a lot of people.

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    Waiting for: Age of Conan, Lineage 3

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    6 months ago this board was just full of trolls who did nothing but kick anyone down who even asked a question about L2 with the usually crap. "Its a grindfest" and "its full of bots". (I hate whinners, I really do, almost as much as I hate bots and farmers)

    Anyway, I'm glad to see so many new players and so many making deep well thought out post. Its good to see this board come to life finally.

    Its a hard game no question, but if you give it a chance you will not be disappointed. Its easy to see the flaws of any game if you go in specifically looking for them.

    L2 may have had a rough start a few years ago but its finally coming round.

  • mmaaxxxmmaaxxx Member Posts: 21
    IMHO Lineage2 is a Grindfest and full of Bots. Nothing changed.



  • SantaClaws48SantaClaws48 Member Posts: 280



    All MMO's are a grindfest and have some form of botting. Even WoW, which is considered an MMO lite, is a huge grindfest beyond 60 if you want your epic gear, more so than L2. Good luck being high warlord when all that equates to is who can spend the most time online and you better hope that that the other guy isn't paying farmers to do BG's for him. I garauntee you that there are more level 75's in L2 than high warlords in WoW per server. And to be honest, if you play long enough you will reach the level cap in L2. The same can't be said about woW and becoming high warlord.

    Honestly, having some form of difficulty in a game is not a bad thing. Yes, it brings along bad things like ebaying and botting. However, it also bring a certain uniqueness and pride. There is distinction and everything that you earn has value. When I played WoW, I didn't care how many times I died b/c it was meaningless. In L2, when you become a noble or hit level 78 you can look around and know that there is something unique about what you have done. When you hit level 60 in WoW, you're just like everyone else.





  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Grind is an perception. WoW has the illusion of being "grind light" because you can hit the level cap fairly easily. Within a few months at most. This is however where the true grind begins. The content of WoW sucks just as bad as L2's. Kill task. Fetch task, weeee.....WoW is more entertaining to look at, so what. Its still the same grind sh*t.

    I have done the WoW grind and hit PvP Knight Capt and that alone was no easy feat with the slideback and not being able to commit every waking hour to the game. (I have a career and family) The game is simply not designed for casual players. The level grind is but thats it.

    L2 has a more direct "up front" grind. You don't have to worry about "backsliding" if you dont play enough. If you die alot, thats another story, play more cautiously I guess. I never had a problem with that.

    You wanna talk about farmers? LoL, go play WoW at level 60 for any length of time. There are so many farmers its a joke. All upper level areas are literally infested. L2's farmers have nothing on WoW's. Its very strange who many WoW players do not acknowledge this fact. Its strange that so many non-players of L2 are quick to point it out. I guess the problem doesn't really exsist in WoW and its my imagination.

    Lets face the facts, WoW is the "new" farmers frontier. L2 is old news. A secondary market.

    I love these lame "L2 has bots and farmers" and its a "grindfest". It just shows how little the person actually understands about the game. (BOTH WoW and L2) Any player of WoW knows its a harsh grind after 60. Any player of L2 knows its a grind all the time. L2 isn't about the grind, if you don't see that, then you dont understand the game.

    The grind is simply something that needs to be done.

    JUST LIKE ALL OTHER MMORPG's - now go away. When you find a game with no grind please let us know.

  • mmaaxxxmmaaxxx Member Posts: 21



    ...When you find a game with no grind please let us know....


             
    " Dungeons and Dragons Online"


    ...and later maybe:
    - Darkfall  and
    - Age of Conan



  • SantaClaws48SantaClaws48 Member Posts: 280
    Too bad there's no pvp in D7D online. Any game with no grind becomes like Diablo 2. It becomes way too easy and there is no status.

  • st8khousest8khouse Member Posts: 18


    Originally posted by SantaClaws48
    .... In L2, when you become a noble or hit level 78 you can look around and know that there is something unique about what you have done. When you hit level 60 in WoW, you're just like everyone else.


    Couldn't agree more, very well said. 
  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Speaking of D&D, I want my money back. What a piece of garbage that was.

    I hope Conan is better then that sorry piece of poopoo.

  • tirallumtirallum Member UncommonPosts: 205

    When a new client version is released, servers go from Full populaton status to Low, because the bot softwares don't work for a few days (until new version). Enough said... Also, massive petitioning is used as an out of game war tool against enemies... and it works, sadly. Support is the worst I've ever met in a game. They must have the worst game masters over all the world.

    About gameplay, PvP is really the best I've found in a rpg. Maybe it would be better to say "fun" and not "the best". This is because the classes are very imbalanced. At massive pvp, numbers are very important. Even with all these flaws, pvp in the game is fun.

    But I think two days of pvp are not worth 15 days of mindless grind. Specially when death penalties (drops) are so harsh with a so difficult economy.

    You ask about healers. Well, I had a bishop, that is a very specialized healer class. At level 55+ you cannot do anything alone and you really need the support of a clan to develop your character as a bishop. A healer's life is very difficult, as people can easily be one-two shotted because of level difference. But the main mission of the bishop is to ress people, as he has the max % XP recovery at resses, but for that you need to be higher level. If you like to play "hit the mole" with the party life bars, then go for it.

  • SantaClaws48SantaClaws48 Member Posts: 280
    2 days of pvp out of 14 days is a reflection of your play style more than the game. If all you do is xp and show up to sieges, then yes you get 2 days of pvp for 2 weeks of play. If your guild actively pvp's and sends out wars then you get pvp everyday. I have no problem logging on and finding a fight at anytime of the day.

  • MmoSwanMmoSwan Member Posts: 134

    [quote]Too bad there's no pvp in D7D online. Any game with no grind becomes like Diablo 2. It becomes way too easy and there is no status.[/quote]

    No offense ment but I think there's no game where it's easier to level then in L2. Start up L2(walker/wind/agent). Set it up once and save the Profile. Press on *login* then on *start*. Move your toon every XX hours to the next spot. Chance you get caught even if 20+ people report you for botting 24/7 is about zero. We did those reports with various bot trains and even after 3 months (the time they needed to get 7x) not a single one got banned. And that's exactly the problem with status:

    With a game where a BIG number of the high level players botted their way up and openly brag about it on the forums and *ingame*, NcSoft denial to take any serious efforts on those cheaters instead of banning pretty randomly about 10 people per server/day devalues being 7x a lot.

    I got plenty of fun playing L2 but surely I never have seen a game where bots completely take over areas like enchanted valley or various catacombs where it's *impossible* to find a free spot that's not blocked by 1-5 trains. And I am talking about a game where you report the area to a GM and he tells you to report the 150 bots one by one into a petition window that only allows 255 letters and will even close the petition  if you asked him not to because you need the additional input space.

    So respect for everybody that played his way up there legitly but it gonna be hard to find people that gonna believe you did it on your own.

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  • JukanJukan Member UncommonPosts: 325
    I will keep it short!

    Yes there is a grind! Is it bad? Well no, not really, but it takes a while. It isn't even hard, once you get it down, which you will by lvl 30 or so and have seen a wide range of parties and mobs. Like I said, it just takes long and there are no quests to guide you through a story to make it seem less.

    The game is growing, more and more players are playing.

    The story is the drama of the players, not doing something for a NPC. This is the most player driven game I have ever played. If you don't like playing with others and whatnot, you probally won't like this game, but then again it depends what you are looking for and so you may like this game.

    If you are interested in the game go buy it. There are many people that have had bad and good experiences in games and you shouldn't just take their word for it, that includes mine too. But do I think the game is worth the price, most definately. The only thing that may be sad for you is that you will be low level and most the server is higher, but no worries, you will catch up because it gets harder to grind as you get higher so the leveling curve helps new players play catch up for a couple months.

    Good Game!


  • SantaClaws48SantaClaws48 Member Posts: 280


    Originally posted by MmoSwan

    [quote]Too bad there's no pvp in D7D online. Any game with no grind becomes like Diablo 2. It becomes way too easy and there is no status.[/quote]
    No offense ment but I think there's no game where it's easier to level then in L2. Start up L2(walker/wind/agent). Set it up once and save the Profile. Press on *login* then on *start*. Move your toon every XX hours to the next spot. Chance you get caught even if 20+ people report you for botting 24/7 is about zero. We did those reports with various bot trains and even after 3 months (the time they needed to get 7x) not a single one got banned. And that's exactly the problem with status:
    With a game where a BIG number of the high level players botted their way up and openly brag about it on the forums and *ingame*, NcSoft denial to take any serious efforts on those cheaters instead of banning pretty randomly about 10 people per server/day devalues being 7x a lot.
    I got plenty of fun playing L2 but surely I never have seen a game where bots completely take over areas like enchanted valley or various catacombs where it's *impossible* to find a free spot that's not blocked by 1-5 trains. And I am talking about a game where you report the area to a GM and he tells you to report the 150 bots one by one into a petition window that only allows 255 letters and will even close the petition  if you asked him not to because you need the additional input space.
    So respect for everybody that played his way up there legitly but it gonna be hard to find people that gonna believe you did it on your own.


    No one even talks about botting in game. No one is that dumb. I don't know where you got that information. The majority of people who are 75 have not afk botted their way there.

    And really, if you did xp your way up legitly to 75 people know you didn't bot. Why? Because the only way to do that is to play. You will meet people and get in xp groups. The people who appear out of nowhere and are 75 are suspect because they have been botting in the middle of nowhere as to not get petitioned.
  • MmoSwanMmoSwan Member Posts: 134



    Originally posted by SantaClaws48

    No one even talks about botting in game. No one is that dumb. I don't know where you got that information. The majority of people who are 75 have not afk botted their way there.

    And really, if you did xp your way up legitly to 75 people know you didn't bot. Why? Because the only way to do that is to play. You will meet people and get in xp groups. The people who appear out of nowhere and are 75 are suspect because they have been botting in the middle of nowhere as to not get petitioned.



    Yes, they do. NcSoft even stated on the retail forums that they won't ban you for claiming you bot, only if they catch you doing it. But the chance that ever will happen is about zero. It's their policy to not do anything until a certain player gets reorted by another player.

    And then...? I reported various bot trains - some 3 month ago - and even the owners if I knew them. None of the reported trains got banned. After over 2 month of 24/7 botting they're still ingame now all 6x nearly ready for sale. They got reported by a bigger number of different players after I posted a fun video clip about griefing/training them and PKing the a grade wearing owner that came to protect them (he joined the train to get healed/buffed so he had control about it) on a forum. And they still run.

    And yeah I know that the people you levelled with know you levelled mostly legitly - but it will still always be a minority of players that really do know you tried to play the game legit. All big alliances on Teon allow ebayers/botters/exploiters now. And it's not really better on servers like Erica or Kain. You should read the hero chat: OMG YOU BOTTED YOUR HERO! NO YOU DID! Watched it for a week then turned it off.

    Funny enough that NcSoft just bannned a group of high levels on their third class change quest that were really active players and pvpers and everybody that knew them thought of that group to be 100% legit. Many levelled with them or fought with them. They never were caught botting, afk xp leeching or whatever you could do to gain an easy advantage and still they got banned for 3rd party tool usage leaving a lot of questions behind that NcSoft of course denies to answer since it's their "policy" to never tell the customer what they do to get rid of the problems and why.

    I seriously have fun playing L2. I just find NcSoft customer/gm service and their denial of enforcing the EULA/TOS really really sad.

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  • Lem3ntLem3nt Member UncommonPosts: 5
    lol get over botting and ebaying please.

    Yea its annoying yea it sucks. But that doesn't make the game bad.

    leveling is a lot easier now. Noob buffs and noob quests up to lvl 20 you help you xp and gear. in C5 clans will have things called academys where chars under 40 can join and get help lvl'ing then "gradutate" the academy.

    Plus tons and tons of places to hunt and lvl. Game gets better and better each chronicle. If only it was like this at the start :P


    Blarg.

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