If Warhammer is well done...it will prolly have 3 times more server in Europe than in America, regardless of their silly Internets ways.
There will prolly be more German servers than any others. French servers would not be that far behind the amount of English speaking servers...it would be funny to see more English than Americans in a game.
But this is only going to happen IF the game deserve it, it has a strong fanbase, especially all over Europe. It is expensive to be on the Internet there, so only a really good game would get that success.
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WAR is going to be huge anyone who says otherwise is either a dumb ass or a fanboy currently of another game. If you don't know what WAR has to offer go do some research instead of bashing a game blindly. Mythic is making it and they have learned a lot especially when it comes to balancing RVR and PVE. They learned a lot from the disaster expansion TOA so Mythic maiking another RVR game is a good thing imo. All I ever hear about WOW is it has lame pvp, never played it, never will. Besides I will be playing WAR, you know the same game franchise Blizzard stole ideas from to creat Warcraft. BADDABING!
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Originally posted by Zythyl Originally posted by Cleffy Doubt it. Warhammer isn't as popular as the Warcraft Franchise. Also most of the people who are into Warhammer are also into warcraft; only its a smaller portion of the warcraft community.
I am a veteran Warhammerer and let me tell you: WE HATE THE WARCRAFT FRANCHISE. It is basicaly like Games Workshop converted into a childish genre on the PC - we hate it.
Warhammer is more popular than Warcraft is in the UK, Australia, France, and Germany... as well as New Zealand; so excluding the juvenile WoW community of the US, I think with just those five listed countries playing w/ the US would be a treat ^^.
Warcraft is like a lazy version of Warhammer: too untalented to paint? Can't be fudged gluing or playing with the rules? Why not try WoW! Today!
I clinically hate WoW and agree the WARHAMMER will be the next big thing.
And the fact that WARcraft got their name from WARhammer.
Warhammer FTW. Enough with the easy unskilled games!
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I totally agree with the OP. Warhammer is definitly shaping up to be the next big game, and I can garuntee in the next 2 years we will see subscribers leave WoW for WAR.
Especially seeing the trailer. Choreographing in that last fight was great
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WAR is going to be huge anyone who says otherwise is either a dumb ass or a fanboy currently of another game. If you don't know what WAR has to offer go do some research instead of bashing a game blindly. Mythic is making it and they have learned a lot especially when it comes to balancing RVR and PVE. They learned a lot from the disaster expansion TOA so Mythic maiking another RVR game is a good thing imo. All I ever hear about WOW is it has lame pvp, never played it, never will. Besides I will be playing WAR, you know the same game franchise Blizzard stole ideas from to creat Warcraft. BADDABING!
Of course when someone disagrees they are either a dumbass or a fanboi, right?
I think WAR will do alright, but it won't be huge. Mythic lost a lot of players because of their inability to balance RvR and fix exploits. They continue to lose players, and my current game IS DAoC. I won't be touching another Mythic product because of the way they've killed off the playerbase in DAoC. Been playing DAoC since about release, and Mythic has made mistake after mistake. Most players left because of their expansions that brought more bugs and huge timesinks and overpowered classes. Mythic doesn't fix their issues, they apply bandaids that make the game worse in the long run. Even with clustering, the servers are ghost towns now. It's too bad really, because the PVP concept was great and it could have been a great game instead of a good game that got screwed.
WAR won't come close to WoW in terms of subs. Mythic doesn't have the following that Blizzard does. Blizzard and WoW are household names, Mythic and DAoC aren't. DDO is a popular tabletop game, and that game sucked. Just because the tabletop version was fun doesn't mean the MMO will be.
Originally posted by Steelarm011 I totally agree with the OP. Warhammer is definitly shaping up to be the next big game, and I can garuntee in the next 2 years we will see subscribers leave WoW for WAR. Especially seeing the trailer. Choreographing in that last fight was great
LOL that wasn't gameplay and Mythic didn't even make the trailer, a marketing company did.
I know I know...but still you gotta admit it looked great.
Your right in a sense but I think its still kinda early to really tell out the outcome...but atm its looking good. Plus DAOC was not a complete failure, in fact before WoW it was considered the most solid MMO out there with good PVE and great PvP. After people get tired of the endgame in WoW they will lose subs.
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It's just a trailer, it doesn't tell us anything about gameplay or actual game graphics. It did look cool, don't get me wrong, but it looks too WoWish.
WOW has one major flaw that will ignite the exodus from azeroth to the warhammer universe.....IT IS OLD!
Blizzard has enjoyed its reign as most popular MMO not because it is any better than its predecessors (ie EQ,AO,DAOC etc..) but because it has not had to compete in its generation. The games that were intended to be its contemporaries were ill concieved. EQ2 was the only real contender and it failed due to being a horrible game and would have regardless of whether or not WOW succeeded.
The problem Blizzard has now is that they are not willing to spend the money to insure their postition at the top. They are in desperate need of more stable servers and better high end content more meaningful PVP, player cities, etc...) The expansion pack they have decided upon is the equivalent of upgrading barbie by getting her a new hat. The addition of 10 levels and 2 races but no new professions in addition to some new carrot on a stick variety instances are simply not going to cut it when the competiotion is rolling out an entirely new game.
WOW was king and it was a good reign. We all had fun while it lasted and unfortunately due to the ease and fast pace we have flogged it to death over and over. It is time for the King to abdicate the throne and to usher in the new era of MMO bliss.
The king is dead....
Long live the King!!
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Of course when someone disagrees they are either a dumbass or a fanboi, right? I think WAR will do alright, but it won't be huge. Mythic lost a lot of players because of their inability to balance RvR and fix exploits. They continue to lose players, and my current game IS DAoC. I won't be touching another Mythic product because of the way they've killed off the playerbase in DAoC. Been playing DAoC since about release, and Mythic has made mistake after mistake. Most players left because of their expansions that brought more bugs and huge timesinks and overpowered classes. Mythic doesn't fix their issues, they apply bandaids that make the game worse in the long run. Even with clustering, the servers are ghost towns now. It's too bad really, because the PVP concept was great and it could have been a great game instead of a good game that got screwed. WAR won't come close to WoW in terms of subs. Mythic doesn't have the following that Blizzard does. Blizzard and WoW are household names, Mythic and DAoC aren't. DDO is a popular tabletop game, and that game sucked. Just because the tabletop version was fun doesn't mean the MMO will be.
I love the part where you bash Mythic for DAOC yet you are currently playing DAOC. Does that tell you anything? Why do you currently play DAOC?? RVR? Only game with decent RVR maybe? Also DDO sucked balls because they made it pure pve and very very limited character creation options.. yay dorf, elf human... robot, dont think so..next!
People like you say you wont touch another Mythic product yet are currently playing a Mythic product are amazing. Again the fact that Blizzard steals ideas from Games Workshop makes me want to play WAR even more.
"I'm sorry but your mmo has been diagnosed with EA and only has X number of days to live."
Originally posted by Lasraik Only reason I'm still playing is because my account isn't inactive yet Do you play DAoC?
I play DAoC and imo it's best pvp mmorpg (maybe with EVE, but it's different game). And I think W.A.R. will be good, maybe even very good game, but I doubt if it will be as big as WoW (and this is good thing).
Please dear God no! Warhammer is an interesting franchise and it seems like this game won't have a half-bad battle system either. Please don't let it be the next big game for ub3r l33t inmature 14 year olds!
Originally posted by spizz so what is new in this "next big game" ? iam tired of the mmorpg clones already
There will be many innovative features like levelling, crafting, and rvr but the big difference is it's set in the truly unique world of warcraft, err I mean warhammer.
Originally posted by Yaros Originally posted by Lasraik Only reason I'm still playing is because my account isn't inactive yet Do you play DAoC?
I play DAoC and imo it's best pvp mmorpg (maybe with EVE, but it's different game). And I think W.A.R. will be good, maybe even very good game, but I doubt if it will be as big as WoW (and this is good thing).
Originally posted by Linchpin I disagree heavily. Warhammer will be good but in no way will compete with WoW.
I am NOT a wow fanboi either. I will tell you what game will come close in competition, and that is age of conan.
Reason being, warhammer won E3 awards from fansites/info sites which are most likely paid off.
If you look on Ageofconan.com main site. Gamespot gave it best multiplayer. IGN gave it best persistent world and even Gamespy gives it a reward.
As far as im concerned AoC has a nice legitimate size of mature followers and I hope it stays that way instead of all the wow kiddies zerging over.
thats because AGE of conan is a full year ahead of WARHAMMER .. look at its release date ...
WARHAMMER is a year behind with an ESTIMATED release sometime in christmas 2007 ( this may change who knows, this figure may not even be offical im going by mmorpg.com )
wait till next years e3 and we shall see who will get the rewards....
it will be interesting to NECRO this thread in 2007 when WARHAMMER comes out and see what people have to say then ... and if they will still deny that this game is headed to be #1 in subscriptions and probably fun and awesomeness too
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If Warhammer is well done...it will prolly have 3 times more server in Europe than in America, regardless of their silly Internets ways.
There will prolly be more German servers than any others. French servers would not be that far behind the amount of English speaking servers...it would be funny to see more English than Americans in a game.
But this is only going to happen IF the game deserve it, it has a strong fanbase, especially all over Europe. It is expensive to be on the Internet there, so only a really good game would get that success.
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
loganxx stfu plz.
WAR is going to be huge anyone who says otherwise is either a dumb ass or a fanboy currently of another game. If you don't know what WAR has to offer go do some research instead of bashing a game blindly. Mythic is making it and they have learned a lot especially when it comes to balancing RVR and PVE. They learned a lot from the disaster expansion TOA so Mythic maiking another RVR game is a good thing imo. All I ever hear about WOW is it has lame pvp, never played it, never will. Besides I will be playing WAR, you know the same game franchise Blizzard stole ideas from to creat Warcraft. BADDABING!
"I'm sorry but your mmo has been diagnosed with EA and only has X number of days to live."
Warhammer is more popular than Warcraft is in the UK, Australia, France, and Germany... as well as New Zealand; so excluding the juvenile WoW community of the US, I think with just those five listed countries playing w/ the US would be a treat ^^.
Warcraft is like a lazy version of Warhammer: too untalented to paint? Can't be fudged gluing or playing with the rules? Why not try WoW! Today!
I clinically hate WoW and agree the WARHAMMER will be the next big thing.
And the fact that WARcraft got their name from WARhammer.
Warhammer FTW. Enough with the easy unskilled games!
Total time played: 9125 Days, 21 Hours, 29 Minutes, 27 Seconds
Time played this level: 39 Days, 1 Hour, 24 Minutes, 5 Seconds
I totally agree with the OP. Warhammer is definitly shaping up to be the next big game, and I can garuntee in the next 2 years we will see subscribers leave WoW for WAR.
Especially seeing the trailer. Choreographing in that last fight was great
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I know I know...but still you gotta admit it looked great.
Your right in a sense but I think its still kinda early to really tell out the outcome...but atm its looking good. Plus DAOC was not a complete failure, in fact before WoW it was considered the most solid MMO out there with good PVE and great PvP. After people get tired of the endgame in WoW they will lose subs.
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Steelarm, Doctor of MMO gaming, ethics, and ideas.
It's just a trailer, it doesn't tell us anything about gameplay or actual game graphics. It did look cool, don't get me wrong, but it looks too WoWish.
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WAR is the next big MMO....
WOW has one major flaw that will ignite the exodus from azeroth to the warhammer universe.....IT IS OLD!
Blizzard has enjoyed its reign as most popular MMO not because it is any better than its predecessors (ie EQ,AO,DAOC etc..) but because it has not had to compete in its generation. The games that were intended to be its contemporaries were ill concieved. EQ2 was the only real contender and it failed due to being a horrible game and would have regardless of whether or not WOW succeeded.
The problem Blizzard has now is that they are not willing to spend the money to insure their postition at the top. They are in desperate need of more stable servers and better high end content more meaningful PVP, player cities, etc...) The expansion pack they have decided upon is the equivalent of upgrading barbie by getting her a new hat. The addition of 10 levels and 2 races but no new professions in addition to some new carrot on a stick variety instances are simply not going to cut it when the competiotion is rolling out an entirely new game.
WOW was king and it was a good reign. We all had fun while it lasted and unfortunately due to the ease and fast pace we have flogged it to death over and over. It is time for the King to abdicate the throne and to usher in the new era of MMO bliss.
The king is dead....
Long live the King!!
Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.
I love the part where you bash Mythic for DAOC yet you are currently playing DAOC. Does that tell you anything? Why do you currently play DAOC?? RVR? Only game with decent RVR maybe? Also DDO sucked balls because they made it pure pve and very very limited character creation options.. yay dorf, elf human... robot, dont think so..next!
People like you say you wont touch another Mythic product yet are currently playing a Mythic product are amazing. Again the fact that Blizzard steals ideas from Games Workshop makes me want to play WAR even more.
"I'm sorry but your mmo has been diagnosed with EA and only has X number of days to live."
Only reason I'm still playing is because my account isn't inactive yet
Do you play DAoC?
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And if this game has this much hype now, imagine when we hit 2007.
There is a huge difference between WAR orcs and WoW orcs. WAR orcs look waaayyyy cooler the the crappy ones in WoW. Sorry just had to be said.
"I'm sorry but your mmo has been diagnosed with EA and only has X number of days to live."
WoW add more hype at his time than War have now.
Wen EQ was the king,people said DAoC wold kill EQ,it never hapend,heven today EQ have more subs than most games
Same goes today with WoW and War.WoW will lose some costumers for a few time and they will be back to WoW.
War and WoW are verry difrent.War is not a game for WoW fans.
Just my opinion
I am NOT a wow fanboi either. I will tell you what game will come close in competition, and that is age of conan.
Reason being, warhammer won E3 awards from fansites/info sites which are most likely paid off.
If you look on Ageofconan.com main site. Gamespot gave it best multiplayer. IGN gave it best persistent world and even Gamespy gives it a reward.
As far as im concerned AoC has a nice legitimate size of mature followers and I hope it stays that way instead of all the wow kiddies zerging over.
Warhammer came before Warcraft, look it up sometime. If anything Warcraft took ideas from Warhammer
Edit: Linchpin: So suddenly they are holy enough not to take pay offs? Money is money, not matter who you are.
I play DAoC and imo it's best pvp mmorpg (maybe with EVE, but it's different game). And I think W.A.R. will be good, maybe even very good game, but I doubt if it will be as big as WoW (and this is good thing).
What are your toons names and on which server?
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thats because AGE of conan is a full year ahead of WARHAMMER .. look at its release date ...
WARHAMMER is a year behind with an ESTIMATED release sometime in christmas 2007 ( this may change who knows, this figure may not even be offical im going by mmorpg.com )
wait till next years e3 and we shall see who will get the rewards....
it will be interesting to NECRO this thread in 2007 when WARHAMMER comes out and see what people have to say then ... and if they will still deny that this game is headed to be #1 in subscriptions and probably fun and awesomeness too