Originally posted by Shayde I felt better today when I decided that I wasn't going to spend 3500 bucks on a SONY T.V... when there was not one but two superior T.V.'s for 3200.
Funny.. I USED to think the extra 300 was for what they call "quality". I used to be a deluded fool.
I also have come to do the same. Any product that has $ony anywhere on it, in it, or associated with it, I wont buy it. I generally think of this as my own personal "strike" against $ony.
Although, I have been seeing many more people saying the same things. So sometimes I wonder if $ony/$OE even notices. And if they do, is it enough to make them even care?
Originally posted by Clackamas Originally posted by cmurda1017ok how is swg still a game just let it die It is time for SWG to die. No argument from me on that account.
It won't as long as everyone keeps complaining about it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by cumbom Let it die, let it die, let it DIE!
Hmmmmmm there a song in there????????
SWG hasn't a snowballs chance in Hell of EVER returning to the glory it once had. I mean really .... when a Lead Develpoer (Helios) has to ask why someone why they liked camps that tells me he has never experienced SWG himself.
Sago Mactow Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet 6/26/03 - 1/26/06 Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect DFR Councilman Tarq Server
Originally posted by Sago Originally posted by cumbom Let it die, let it die, let it DIE!
Hmmmmmm there a song in there????????
SWG hasn't a snowballs chance in Hell of EVER returning to the glory it once had. I mean really .... when a Lead Develpoer (Helios) has to ask why someone why they liked camps that tells me he has never experienced SWG himself.
It does sound like a song, maybe Guns N Roses..........
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
That's "Live and Let Die". Sounds like a decent idea for SWG. SOE really screwed this one up and there's no breathing life back into it at this point...
Originally posted by brihtwulf That's "Live and Let Die". Sounds like a decent idea for SWG. SOE really screwed this one up and there's no breathing life back into it at this point...
How about the song from the movie based on Anne Rice's Queen of the Damned, "Why Wont You Die."
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
Originally posted by SofaKing2000 I may have been alittle obscure on my feelings towords SOE in the past. So I guess I'll state my opinion on this stickie so there will be no doubt. I H8 SOE. Keep fighting the good fight brothers and sisters!
You got me thinking, as hard as that may be to imagine, and I want to be clear as well.
SOE sucks....k thanks, I feel better.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
How SOE can completely steal a game which we were all paying for away from us and force the stuff they fed us down our throat is unbelievable! To change the game because they say people were complaining and get only more complainers should tell them to go with the lesser of the two evils.
There will always be complainers but hey you know what before CU I had the equivalent of about a lvl 18-20 char. He was a wookiee, with no armor and no buffs. He didn't have a powerful template, and often got beat down by anything he tried to fight. Yet he still soloed because despite how hard the game was, it was fun and there were great people on the game.
The game was so unique and so diverse if that wasn't the first MMO I ever tried, I would never have gotten addicted to them. I created that wookiee as a joke to give me something to do while I was home visiting my family thinking that I'd never want to play an MMO. But after a few days I had to go home and had withdrawls from not being able to play. So I finally got the game myself and enjoyed it until the CU.
But the CU wasn't utterly horrible, sure levels sucked because they dictated the game and took some of the mystery out of it. Key though was that they kept our unique character creation abilities, which is what really irks me and most SWG vets about the NGE. This game went from the best MMO out there to the absolute worst out there with these two terrible ideas.
Yet SOE just doesn't care. Their target audience of 7-9 year olds (and this is the truth because my little brother just turned 9 and he even got his friend to join and they think it's great) is not the proper audience for an MMO, or at least not a Star Wars MMO. Jedi were getting bad after CU because of respec but seriously this game CAN NOT be Star Wars when everyone and their brother is a flippin' Jedi! It's ludicrous, I feel like its a satirical version of Star Wars produced by Mel Brooks, we should call it SBG = Space Balls : Galaxies because thats about where it's at right now. Don't get me wrong Space Balls is hilarious, but as far as the game goes it's not a good idea. I want my SWG back, SOE can take this SBG and shove it!
I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system. ...and making SWG a better place to be
but seriously this game CAN NOT be Star Wars when everyone and their brother is a flippin' Jedi! It's ludicrous,
But as a former owner of the access pass i have jumped in and out of SWG mostly to say hi as i quit playing after the first year.
On one of my returns just before CU nearly everyone i knew who still played was a jedi and walking freely around naboo.
So essentially those of us(i am guessing you too) who thought it was stupid to have so many jedis in this time frame walking freely around theed were screwed up long ago.
Why is it now that jedi are a starter class that people moan?At least now with the jedis not been super powered people might actually play other classes as their primary.Before this ppl only played other classes to support their jedis or are in progress of trying to get jedi.
I personally blame SoE for listening to the constant whining as regards jedi by what remained of the SWG community 1 year post launch.Now its star wars,you have a class called jedi that is stupidly overpowered.So why in god;s name will anyone want to be anything else!
Should have stood their grounds back in pre production and omitted jedis altogether or change the time line and a KOTOR like mmorpg.
I hate SOE. This is the only game company I feel this way about, and I've been a gamer since the 1980's.
When I see SWG on store shelves, I hide the boxes behind golf simulations and such. I've never done anything like that before, even when I was dissatisfied with a product. But SOE instills that kind of animosity in me because of how it treats its customers.
Originally posted by Terranah I hate SOE. This is the only game company I feel this way about, and I've been a gamer since the 1980's. When I see SWG on store shelves, I hide the boxes behind golf simulations and such. I've never done anything like that before, even when I was dissatisfied with a product. But SOE instills that kind of animosity in me because of how it treats its customers. If I could do more to sabatoge them I would.
LOL, at least you're not changing the game's category by much in the process.
SWG could possibly be the best golf sim out there, IMO.
-- xpaladin
[MMOz] AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW
Originally posted by Terranah I hate SOE. This is the only game company I feel this way about, and I've been a gamer since the 1980's. When I see SWG on store shelves, I hide the boxes behind golf simulations and such. I've never done anything like that before, even when I was dissatisfied with a product. But SOE instills that kind of animosity in me because of how it treats its customers. If I could do more to sabatoge them I would.
i just topple them from the shelves and kick them under the rack.
Originally posted by Terranah I hate SOE. This is the only game company I feel this way about, and I've been a gamer since the 1980's. When I see SWG on store shelves, I hide the boxes behind golf simulations and such. I've never done anything like that before, even when I was dissatisfied with a product. But SOE instills that kind of animosity in me because of how it treats its customers. If I could do more to sabatoge them I would.
Feel the power of your hate! Let it flow through you! The Dark Side of the Focce is the ultimate Power in the Universe!
Yes there were a lot of Jedi during the CU, but not like now. At least not ratio wise, the only reason it may even seem close now is because there is only about 1/5th the people playing as there used to be.
Personally I prefer pre-CU like most vets, but it's not even the amount of Jedi, although that is a big part of it. The biggest thing about Jedi is the people that play them, and that is what has gotten so much more worse since the NGE. There were 1337 douche-bags that played them before, but now it's 7 year olds! I know they are about the same maturity level but there are more 7 years olds that 1337 num-nuts out there.
I don't mind Jedi being over-powered when it comes to a fight as long as they have other weaknesses. Such as everytime they draw their saber all the stormtroopers around instantly call for back up and open fire and tag you for Vader to come after you. If anyone you use a lightsaber on escapes from you, be they imp/reb/neutral they can report you to the imps. And this doesn't apply to just lightsabers but any obvious/overt Jedi skill. You must also act like a Jedi and as such maybe only be able to take certain missions, not be able to initiate combat, and always subdue an opponent rather than kill one. Maybe only allow reb/light jedi's since there is only supposed to be two sith at any one time. Not to ention letting BH's have field days with Jedi's.
Point is there are a million ways to handicap a Jedi that make more sense than losing xp, skills, or permadeath. Plus if you choose ones that will stop powergamers/1337 people from playing Jedi, guess who is left to play them? That's right hard core Star Wars and Role-Playing Gamers. And SWG is supposed to be what... Anyone? That's right an RPG!
So let as many people as want to go through the 18 weeks of grinding just to become a jedi, then work their way up with all those restrictions and it wouldn't bother me if there were a bunch, becuase those are the dedicated people that deserve to play jedi. Not all these 7 year olds swinging their glowbats.
Anyways, I hate SOE for killing my game instead of implenting common sense shit than any mature rational thinking person that played and loved SWG could have recommended.
I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system. ...and making SWG a better place to be
Anyways, I hate SOE for killing my game instead of implenting common sense shit than any mature rational thinking person that played and loved SWG could have recommended.
This is a great post, but your sumation is flawed. Your expecting mature and rational leadership from a company that has recently asked what the value of camping is and made a poor joke about Jedi visibility. And let us not forget the man himself, John Smedley who admitted he screwed up by not attracting the large player base the SW IP should have brought.
But, anyway, it is true, you'd expect SOE to be smart and raitonal.
like i said in an earlier post, the suckboards have actually gotten worse! i'm an EQ2 player. if you say "WTF" on the (EQ2) suckboards, it gets changed to "**SMURF**" go figure
Originally posted by Rabia Originally posted by jeffdnd
Anyways, I hate SOE for killing my game instead of implenting common sense shit than any mature rational thinking person that played and loved SWG could have recommended.
This is a great post, but your sumation is flawed. Your expecting mature and rational leadership from a company that has recently asked what the value of camping is and made a poor joke about Jedi visibility. And let us not forget the man himself, John Smedley who admitted he screwed up by not attracting the large player base the SW IP should have brought.
But, anyway, it is true, you'd expect SOE to be smart and raitonal.
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I also have come to do the same. Any product that has $ony anywhere on it, in it, or associated with it, I wont buy it. I generally think of this as my own personal "strike" against $ony.
Although, I have been seeing many more people saying the same things. So sometimes I wonder if $ony/$OE even notices. And if they do, is it enough to make them even care?
It's already dead to me.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
It won't as long as everyone keeps complaining about it.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
SWG RIP
moctodumegws
Can't WAIT!
Hmmmmmm there a song in there????????
SWG hasn't a snowballs chance in Hell of EVER returning to the glory it once had. I mean really .... when a Lead Develpoer (Helios) has to ask why someone why they liked camps that tells me he has never experienced SWG himself.
Sago Mactow
Former SWG 2yr 7 month Vet
6/26/03 - 1/26/06
Jedi, Master Shipwright, Master Architect
DFR Councilman
Tarq Server
Hmmmmmm there a song in there????????
SWG hasn't a snowballs chance in Hell of EVER returning to the glory it once had. I mean really .... when a Lead Develpoer (Helios) has to ask why someone why they liked camps that tells me he has never experienced SWG himself.
It does sound like a song, maybe Guns N Roses..........
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
I may have been alittle obscure on my feelings towords SOE in the past.
So I guess I'll state my opinion on this stickie so there will be no doubt.
I H8 SOE.
Keep fighting the good fight brothers and sisters!
You got me thinking, as hard as that may be to imagine, and I want to be clear as well.
SOE sucks....k thanks, I feel better.
"The man who exchanges Liberty for Iconic classes is a fool deserving of neither." - Me and Ben Franklin
How SOE can completely steal a game which we were all paying for away from us and force the stuff they fed us down our throat is unbelievable! To change the game because they say people were complaining and get only more complainers should tell them to go with the lesser of the two evils.
There will always be complainers but hey you know what before CU I had the equivalent of about a lvl 18-20 char. He was a wookiee, with no armor and no buffs. He didn't have a powerful template, and often got beat down by anything he tried to fight. Yet he still soloed because despite how hard the game was, it was fun and there were great people on the game.
The game was so unique and so diverse if that wasn't the first MMO I ever tried, I would never have gotten addicted to them. I created that wookiee as a joke to give me something to do while I was home visiting my family thinking that I'd never want to play an MMO. But after a few days I had to go home and had withdrawls from not being able to play. So I finally got the game myself and enjoyed it until the CU.
But the CU wasn't utterly horrible, sure levels sucked because they dictated the game and took some of the mystery out of it. Key though was that they kept our unique character creation abilities, which is what really irks me and most SWG vets about the NGE. This game went from the best MMO out there to the absolute worst out there with these two terrible ideas.
Yet SOE just doesn't care. Their target audience of 7-9 year olds (and this is the truth because my little brother just turned 9 and he even got his friend to join and they think it's great) is not the proper audience for an MMO, or at least not a Star Wars MMO. Jedi were getting bad after CU because of respec but seriously this game CAN NOT be Star Wars when everyone and their brother is a flippin' Jedi! It's ludicrous, I feel like its a satirical version of Star Wars produced by Mel Brooks, we should call it SBG = Space Balls : Galaxies because thats about where it's at right now. Don't get me wrong Space Balls is hilarious, but as far as the game goes it's not a good idea. I want my SWG back, SOE can take this SBG and shove it!
I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be
But as a former owner of the access pass i have jumped in and out of SWG mostly to say hi as i quit playing after the first year.
On one of my returns just before CU nearly everyone i knew who still played was a jedi and walking freely around naboo.
So essentially those of us(i am guessing you too) who thought it was stupid to have so many jedis in this time frame walking freely around theed were screwed up long ago.
Why is it now that jedi are a starter class that people moan?At least now with the jedis not been super powered people might actually play other classes as their primary.Before this ppl only played other classes to support their jedis or are in progress of trying to get jedi.
I personally blame SoE for listening to the constant whining as regards jedi by what remained of the SWG community 1 year post launch.Now its star wars,you have a class called jedi that is stupidly overpowered.So why in god;s name will anyone want to be anything else!
Should have stood their grounds back in pre production and omitted jedis altogether or change the time line and a KOTOR like mmorpg.
I hate SOE. This is the only game company I feel this way about, and I've been a gamer since the 1980's.
When I see SWG on store shelves, I hide the boxes behind golf simulations and such. I've never done anything like that before, even when I was dissatisfied with a product. But SOE instills that kind of animosity in me because of how it treats its customers.
If I could do more to sabatoge them I would.
SWG could possibly be the best golf sim out there, IMO.
-- xpaladin
[MMOz]
AC1/2, AO, DAoC, EQ1/2, SoR, SWG, UO, WAR, WoW
fEEL mY wARTH!
-virtual tourist
want your game back?
Yes there were a lot of Jedi during the CU, but not like now. At least not ratio wise, the only reason it may even seem close now is because there is only about 1/5th the people playing as there used to be.
Personally I prefer pre-CU like most vets, but it's not even the amount of Jedi, although that is a big part of it. The biggest thing about Jedi is the people that play them, and that is what has gotten so much more worse since the NGE. There were 1337 douche-bags that played them before, but now it's 7 year olds! I know they are about the same maturity level but there are more 7 years olds that 1337 num-nuts out there.
I don't mind Jedi being over-powered when it comes to a fight as long as they have other weaknesses. Such as everytime they draw their saber all the stormtroopers around instantly call for back up and open fire and tag you for Vader to come after you. If anyone you use a lightsaber on escapes from you, be they imp/reb/neutral they can report you to the imps. And this doesn't apply to just lightsabers but any obvious/overt Jedi skill. You must also act like a Jedi and as such maybe only be able to take certain missions, not be able to initiate combat, and always subdue an opponent rather than kill one. Maybe only allow reb/light jedi's since there is only supposed to be two sith at any one time. Not to ention letting BH's have field days with Jedi's.
Point is there are a million ways to handicap a Jedi that make more sense than losing xp, skills, or permadeath. Plus if you choose ones that will stop powergamers/1337 people from playing Jedi, guess who is left to play them? That's right hard core Star Wars and Role-Playing Gamers. And SWG is supposed to be what... Anyone? That's right an RPG!
So let as many people as want to go through the 18 weeks of grinding just to become a jedi, then work their way up with all those restrictions and it wouldn't bother me if there were a bunch, becuase those are the dedicated people that deserve to play jedi. Not all these 7 year olds swinging their glowbats.
Anyways, I hate SOE for killing my game instead of implenting common sense shit than any mature rational thinking person that played and loved SWG could have recommended.
I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be
But, anyway, it is true, you'd expect SOE to be smart and raitonal.
But, anyway, it is true, you'd expect SOE to be smart and raitonal.
QFE!