Originally posted by damian7 Originally posted by Gameloading Originally posted by paranoidpvp Originally posted by Gameloading The game is fun. this is where loads of other MMo's fail fail. WoW never claimed to do anything new. instead they took everything good of other MMO's and improved it. another groundbreaking fact.there is no such thing as a mmo that is hard to play. everquest doesn't require skill, Daoc doesn't require skill, NEVER EvER has an mmo required skill. WoW is just darn easy to learn, thats why your daughter understood it. aww you don't like the end raid game? well thats too bad..especialy because its like every other mmo there, but because wow is so popular, it suddenly deserves to be bashed. if you think it doesn't offer nothing new to the mmo genré, then go play another game. WoW NEVER claimed to do that. its like buying a normal car then suddenly complain it can't fly.
You're saying no MMOs require skill these days? May I introduce you to Guild Wars, the only MMO out right now that is completely "skill based" and depends more on skill than time played. Please do some research the next time you try to talk about this kind of thing. Exactly mate. Do some research first. Guild Wars is NOT an mmorpg. Even the developers have said this, at is is/was listed at their site. and even IF guild wars was an mmorpg, then you really don't need skills to play the game, you only need skills, or knowledge really, for pvp.
and I quote: "Despite what you may have heard or read, Guild wars is not an MMORPG, it is an online game but with a key difference. You join the game and congregate with thousands of players on the same server and meet/socialise with them in special zones."
so "Please do some research the next time you try to talk about this kind of thing"
what makes it not an rpg?
if it's just people saying it's not; well, wow, eq, eq2, and quite a few other games aren't rpgs either. they can CLAIM to be rpgs, but um, yeah, look at chat, look at the worlds. it's got fantasy characters and fantasy weapons/armors. is it not an rpg because it doesn't have raids/instances/big dungeons?
in the quote where dude says it's not an rpg, his next sentence defines a community, it doesn't disprove that a game is/isn't an rpg. people meet/socialize in raid zones. matter of fact, socializing is the reason that the raid supporters say is the reason raids are so great -- you socialize and build a community.
i read what was quoted/pasted. so i'm asking WHAT makes it not an rpg and just an mmo. notice, i'm following a line of thought. don't flame stupidly. i can say, you're not human. does that make you an alien blue guy pew pew pewing in a space ship all of a sudden?
Oh Guild Wars isn't missing the RPG part in MMORPG. with its instances and storyline telling missions, I'd even say it does the RPG part better then the games you mentioned. Guild Wars misses the MMO part in MMORPG.
Well i kind of agree with the guy about the fact that this in an easy mmo. Im not saying thats a bad thing, i enjoyed playing wow for a year as a beginning MMO'er. And thats exactly what the strenght of wow is, it is easily accesible for many people, especially players who never played an mmo or even rpg before, and that is why its such a succes. Of course Blizzard did this brilliantly as they allways do.
However, people who look a little further, play some trials, try some other MMORPG's. Or even come from a long MMO background will realise that wow is rather basic for an MMO, you could say non-hardcore. Off course people drag this on by saying it is a kids game, which i completely disagree with, i played it for a year and had a very good time doing so. But i think most people should understand that the average mmo goes a bit further.
Originally posted by Wickes Still on the Don Quixote crusade eh Go for it ... maybe you can stop them from hitting 10 million
on the anti-stupid and anti-liar crusade. i have issues with both morons and ass clowns.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
Its a game that you pay for, dont like it ? stop paying.
Im getting tired of hearing the same old bullshit..
But nightbird we dont wanna play a genious made game! We want something extremely complex and boring so that we may sound more Manish when we're talking about games with girls!
Fucking hell. Also wtf is bad about raiding? Think about it, are you saying you would rather go on sucky solo quests to get some piece of armor that everyone is going to have since the quest will be extremely easy? Or do you want to actually DO something and spend a couple hours raiding with mates to try and upgrade your gear? Im sorry but if you want to be pvp oriented then get use to raiding.
Finally i just want to say, think you could do it better? Then why the hell arnt you doing it? i mean what you want IS OFCOURSE what everyone else wants... think about it, you could make millions of dollars...
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Exactly mate. Do some research first. Guild Wars is NOT an mmorpg. Even the developers have said this, at is is/was listed at their site. and even IF guild wars was an mmorpg, then you really don't need skills to play the game, you only need skills, or knowledge really, for pvp.
you can also read this at diffrent fansites. such as:
http://www.gwonline.net/page.php?p=65
and I quote:
"Despite what
you may have heard or read, Guild wars is not an MMORPG, it is an online game
but with a key difference. You join the game and congregate with thousands of
players on the same server and meet/socialise with them in special zones."
so "Please do some research the next time you try to talk about this kind of thing"
what makes it not an rpg?
if it's just people saying it's not; well, wow, eq, eq2, and quite a few other games aren't rpgs either. they can CLAIM to be rpgs, but um, yeah, look at chat, look at the worlds. it's got fantasy characters and fantasy weapons/armors. is it not an rpg because it doesn't have raids/instances/big dungeons?
in the quote where dude says it's not an rpg, his next sentence defines a community, it doesn't disprove that a game is/isn't an rpg. people meet/socialize in raid zones. matter of fact, socializing is the reason that the raid supporters say is the reason raids are so great -- you socialize and build a community.
i read what was quoted/pasted. so i'm asking WHAT makes it not an rpg and just an mmo. notice, i'm following a line of thought. don't flame stupidly. i can say, you're not human. does that make you an alien blue guy pew pew pewing in a space ship all of a sudden?
Oh Guild Wars isn't missing the RPG part in MMORPG. with its instances and storyline telling missions, I'd even say it does the RPG part better then the games you mentioned. Guild Wars misses the MMO part in MMORPG.
Well i kind of agree with the guy about the fact that this in an easy mmo. Im not saying thats a bad thing, i enjoyed playing wow for a year as a beginning MMO'er. And thats exactly what the strenght of wow is, it is easily accesible for many people, especially players who never played an mmo or even rpg before, and that is why its such a succes. Of course Blizzard did this brilliantly as they allways do.
However, people who look a little further, play some trials, try some other MMORPG's. Or even come from a long MMO background will realise that wow is rather basic for an MMO, you could say non-hardcore. Off course people drag this on by saying it is a kids game, which i completely disagree with, i played it for a year and had a very good time doing so. But i think most people should understand that the average mmo goes a bit further.
could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?
You guys need to get over yourselvs, seriously.
Its a game that you pay for, dont like it ? stop paying.
Im getting tired of hearing the same old bullshit..
But nightbird we dont wanna play a genious made game! We want something extremely complex and boring so that we may sound more Manish when we're talking about games with girls!
Fucking hell. Also wtf is bad about raiding? Think about it, are you saying you would rather go on sucky solo quests to get some piece of armor that everyone is going to have since the quest will be extremely easy? Or do you want to actually DO something and spend a couple hours raiding with mates to try and upgrade your gear? Im sorry but if you want to be pvp oriented then get use to raiding.
Finally i just want to say, think you could do it better? Then why the hell arnt you doing it? i mean what you want IS OFCOURSE what everyone else wants... think about it, you could make millions of dollars...