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"Mature" rating will backfire.

I love mmo's, but all the blasted kids ruin it.

I do know that the rating is due to the grafic nature of the game. But I see alot of ppl think it will "save" them from all the shitty kids.

It's great that AoC has the "Mature" rating, but seriously do you think it will help? I have seen little kids smiling and laughing when they see the video of the game and all the blood and head decap.

I think its gonna really act like a magnet to AoC and it will be crawling with kids laugh and with semi-hardons ganking and choping off heads. Look at Grand Theft Auto its a good exsampel of this.


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  • SorcerousKhanSorcerousKhan Member UncommonPosts: 164
    Yeah.....it would be nice if kids didn't play MMORPGs. The little buggers aren't good for any kind of meaningful conversation whatsoever.

  • sakersaker Member RarePosts: 1,458

    I have admittadly been hopeful that the mature rating will help with the community issues that so many of these games have. I did just see a article where it was said they were actually removing alot of the mature content (including the decapitations/nudity), seriously hope they don't go dumbing it down to appeal to the kiddies, etc. This is supposed to be the conan world, its a dark/mature/bloody world, please don't make it WoW like

  • EvelknievelEvelknievel Member UncommonPosts: 2,964

    Guess were going to have to take the good with the bad. I just hope this game is fun!

    The only thing I can say is, find a few friends to join up with you in the game to make it at least fun so we can forget about the immatures that this game may attract. I dont have anything agaist the young crowd some are even more mature than alot of the adults that will play. But I know where your coming from.

  • RadiotreeRadiotree Member Posts: 81

    There are going to be kiddies, there is no way around that. 

    I don't think the M rating will do anything to either encourage, or discourage them (I'm hoping there are a few responsible parents out there that will keep their kiids away).  Most of the kids choose a game based on how easy it is to greif others, so I'm praying Funcom will take steps to discourage their nonsense. 

    The single greatest flaw to WoW is their immature community.  I wonder how many active players they would have right now if so many hadn't left because of the community.  Personally, I would still be there if it weren't for the unbearable group currently playing.  Many of my friends would still be there as well. 

    I'm going to get some flack for this next comment, but I'm not a big fan of kids playing MMO's in general.  Whether they're good players or not, it's difficult to play with them. 

    Their Mom is hounding them to take the garbage out, so they have to afk for that; when they get back their sister is on the computer checking her email, when she's finally done their parents make them log out because its a school night.  All the while, their group is sitting there, waiting for 45 minutes only to find they have waited in vain...group disbands, thanks for wasting my time. 

    I know there are exceptions to this, and that's great, but they're few, and far between.  Please Funcom, save us from this! 

     Am I being unrealistic with my AoC expectations?  Yes, yes I am. 

  • modernfdmodernfd Member Posts: 1
    i doubt AoC will be marketed as heavily as GTA(everyone wants to be a gangsta, ha). hell, people might be drawn away from AoC just because of the fact they don't like Conan. i dont believe the mature rating will have much effect at all, kids that want to get their hands on the game will still get it, not because its rated M but because they know what kind of game AoC is. the gaming generation is growing and kids are growing up knowing nothing else. your never going to escape that unless you enjoy single player games. honestly how hard is it to just ignore the text?

  • Fenrir767Fenrir767 Member Posts: 595
    I doubt it will backfire I just want to beta test this game to see if its gonna do what I think its gonna do kick some serious ass.
  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130
    I just dont see why you guys are so concerned about Funcom's MMORPG's... I played AO back in the heyday (Right after Notum Wars came out and right before SWG beta and Shadowlands) so I dont know how it is today in the Free AO world..

    But back then ARK's and GM's were right on top of people that caused problems or were out of line.. Say something that you shouldnt have said in General chat or trained some guards on someone and guess what.. A few mins later a ARK or GM was visiting you in person and issuing a warning or taking other steps if needed... No other MMORPG I played had CS like that..

    Like I said I dont know how it is now since I havent played during the "free period" but back when you had to pay to play the game, Funcom made sure people stayed in line and didnt act up.

    I just think to many people think all MMORPG's are like World of Warcraft where anything and everything can be said in General chat. Not all MMORPG's are like WOW, trust me.





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  • SeanRPSeanRP Member Posts: 106
    It wont really matter to me, I do not join guilds unless there 18+. Once I have that, I'll just slaughter the 16 year olds while there mom is yelling at them to finish there homework
  • KevorKevor Member Posts: 17

    So just cerious. How much of a difference is there from 16 to 18? Lol I've met more 18-25 year olds that were worse then alot of young teenagers.

     It really depends on the person and how they were raised. So really who is to blame for kids being bad? The kids? I doubt that since they have to learn from someone and you have to wounder; if they are kids, and are that bad, how bad are their parents?

     No, i'm not a "kid" myself. ( I am 23) but seriously all this kid bashing is so funny when you don't really know if that player is really a kid. 

      I've met alot of players that were annoying/grifing that were "adult" age. How much kid like are people when they are wasted playing a game or otherwise and don't have total control over what they do? I bet they really greif then. lol

     i've played with people like that alot in EQ and it wasn't that bad, but it's even funner when people start complaining about kids.

    Anyway i will check out this game, but the way i play is if i don't like people i meet on a first term basics i just go my own way from there and let that be that. I don't care how old they are cause this is just a game and its for entertainment.


  • ScorpesScorpes Member Posts: 830

    I'd be very dissapointed if it became all ages, the mature rating would make it truly stand out from the glut of other mmorpg's and would foster a different community. Most people who play these games and its about time they made games for adults instead of making games for kids and expecting adults to play.

    Theirs plenty of games for children to play with. Isnt it funny, how the older you are the less choices we often have? shrug

  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883
    Yes, the GM's and ARKs's are still very much in control when it comes to people ruining others experiences in AO and I believe this will continue to be  the case in AoC. And as far as the Mature rating, it is a good thing in my opinion for two reasons. 1.) Out of control kiddies causing problems? First time the little schmuk brags about his age, automatic cause for an ip ban. And most of them will brag about it. 2.) I don't want a game where you have to worry about the parents complaints causing havok like they have with both GTA and now Oblivion because of nudity/violence issues. Their kiddie gets caught playing and parent wants to go on a report to congress spree? Why are you paying for him to play a mature rated game, ma'am? Junior pays for it himself? Don't you keep a tab on your underage childs online activities like most good parents do,sir? Therefore, no grounds for suing/banning/WoWifying(my new phrase of the day).
  • Database82Database82 Member Posts: 179
    AoC having an M rating will in my opinion filter out alot of the immature brats but sadly not all of them, some parents will end up buying the game regardless for their kids to win their affection and that's what sucks. Another thing though is not all young kids are immature there are actually a few adults can be quite immature as well i experienced this first hand just a few nights ago playing WoW one of the guys in my guild wiped us in MC so he got lectured by our guild master, he then left the raid and proceeded to spam guild chat with all his items as he was disenchating them and then after disenchanting all his gear he went onto our Ventrilo server and banned 90% of the guild. Talk about immature 

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  • Murtagh21Murtagh21 Member Posts: 13
    Sorry to tell you kids will get the game no matter what. It works like this "boy asks mom can i get AoC. Mom says no. Boy asks dad might say yes if he doesnt. boy asks grandma and grandpa they will all most certainly say yes and if it does work the will download it illegally"... trust me its all true im 14 I will play the game becasue i have proved to my parent i am mature.. 95% of kids will be like what you think about 5% wont.. 

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  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    when you are talking about a game like GTA, yeah kiddies can get it.

    However, since this requires you to pay monthly via credit card, I say kiddies won't be playing.

    In fact, I'm always suprised when I come in to contact with 12 years-olds in these games. 

    I know I wouldn't pay for such nonsense if my kid wanted it.

  • RadiotreeRadiotree Member Posts: 81


    Originally posted by Dabble

    when you are talking about a game like GTA, yeah kiddies can get it.
    However, since this requires you to pay monthly via credit card, I say kiddies won't be playing.
    In fact, I'm always suprised when I come in to contact with 12 years-olds in these games. 
    I know I wouldn't pay for such nonsense if my kid wanted it.


    I agree with you.  The huge majority of parents will not pay for this kind of thing for their child.  There are still so many parents that are completely irresponsible, who are happy to pay $15 a month to keep their kids busy so they don’t have to deal with them.  These same kind of parents are spawning the 1337 players that are ruining many MMORPG’s.    
  • DeletedAcctDeletedAcct Member Posts: 883


    Originally posted by Murtagh21
    Sorry to tell you kids will get the game no matter what. It works like this "boy asks mom can i get AoC. Mom says no. Boy asks dad might say yes if he doesnt. boy asks grandma and grandpa they will all most certainly say yes and if it does work the will download it illegally"... trust me its all true im 14 I will play the game becasue i have proved to my parent i am mature.. 95% of kids will be like what you think about 5% wont.. 

    Sadly, this is probably true And although I am sure you may have a higher maturity level than most kids your age, the fact remains you are 14. I don't care how "mature" your parents think you are, they are quite frankly not doing their job or fulfilling their obligations as parents if they are willing to pay for you to have access to mature rated games or any other mature rated content for that matter. But, as I stated above, the main thing that the mature rating will accomplish is that when your fragil little sensibilities are attacked or some 12 year old gets caught cyboring with a 40 year old ( and let it be known I don't agree with cybor in the first place), the parents are going to have noone to blame but themselves because they allowed and/or did not monitor what there minor child was doing on the internet. Therefore the rest of us can enjoy our game without having to worry about content being dumbed down or removed for fear of lawsuits,complaint, etc., because the ones complaing WERE NOT WANTED OR ALLOWED IN THE FIRST PLACE!
  • _GabriellaLa_GabriellaLa Member Posts: 13

    I would have to agree with Kevor. There have been many "adults" I have met in the mmorpg games that truly act like little 13 year olds. I have even met "adults' who use mmorpgs to try and get some cyb0r going.

    on the same note, I have met many who have shocked me when their real age is found out. Much younger than you would have suspected in that they are mature, well mannered and great players!

    I myself am no spring chicken. I dont care how old you are just act like this isnt your romper room (40yrs old or 12 yrs old) and I will group with you.

  • Database82Database82 Member Posts: 179
    well kids who's parents are divorced are more likely to get the game because of the parents trying to buy the love of their child with material possesions.

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  • ZippyZippy Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,412


    Originally posted by Vanillacream
    I love mmo's, but all the blasted kids ruin it.

    I do know that the rating is due to the grafic nature of the game. But I see alot of ppl think it will "save" them from all the shitty kids.

    It's great that AoC has the "Mature" rating, but seriously do you think it will help? I have seen little kids smiling and laughing when they see the video of the game and all the blood and head decap.

    I think its gonna really act like a magnet to AoC and it will be crawling with kids laugh and with semi-hardons ganking and choping off heads. Look at Grand Theft Auto its a good exsampel of this.


    A mature rating will do nothing but make the community worse.  The ones below 18 are not the problem its the 18-25 year old kiddies that cause the problems because they are so much louder.  This game seems to be designed for these kiddies with gore, blood, decaptitation and a M rating.  It will most likley attract the worst of the MMO community.  A 25 year olds idea of maturity might be that he can curse as much as he wants and act in the most obnoxious way possible.  While an adults idea of maturity might be empathy and understanding towards and others and the realization that we are all better off by not purposefully offending others.  The community here will be a 100 times worse than WoW's.  The only thing I could see that could save the this games community would be behavior restricted servers where adults can go to advoid the the loud and obnoxious 25 year old kiddies.  Put in a few no profanity, no dude talk, nice behavior servers with a $5 or $10 additional fee and it will be a safe haven from the kiddies.  The people that are the problem will stay far away from places where thier attention seeking acts will result in immediate bans.

    While I like the many of the ideas and think that AoC has great potential to be a very good game I am saddened by what looks to be shaping up as the worst MMO community of all times.  They seem to marketing the game directly towards the kiddies with the gore, head chopping, Mature rating, PvP and so on.  Very sad and probably one game I will wish I had stayed far away from.

  • OldManFunkOldManFunk Member Posts: 894


    Originally posted by Vanillacream
    I love mmo's, but all the blasted kids ruin it.

    I do know that the rating is due to the grafic nature of the game. But I see alot of ppl think it will "save" them from all the shitty kids.

    It's great that AoC has the "Mature" rating, but seriously do you think it will help? I have seen little kids smiling and laughing when they see the video of the game and all the blood and head decap.

    I think its gonna really act like a magnet to AoC and it will be crawling with kids laugh and with semi-hardons ganking and choping off heads. Look at Grand Theft Auto its a good exsampel of this.




    I agree. The mature rating, extreme gore and sexist lore will make AoC's community the worst game community of all time. It's the kind of thing that makes mature people go, "Uh, is this really necessary in a game?" and teenagers to go, "ZOMG I HEAD CHOPPED THAT WHORE!!1ONE GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES YOU STUPID BITCH!!ELEVEN /grabcrotch /dryhump"

    Sad but true.

    I'd hate to be the CMs for AoC.
  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092


    Originally posted by OldManFunk

    Originally posted by Vanillacream
    I love mmo's, but all the blasted kids ruin it.

    I do know that the rating is due to the grafic nature of the game. But I see alot of ppl think it will "save" them from all the shitty kids.

    It's great that AoC has the "Mature" rating, but seriously do you think it will help? I have seen little kids smiling and laughing when they see the video of the game and all the blood and head decap.

    I think its gonna really act like a magnet to AoC and it will be crawling with kids laugh and with semi-hardons ganking and choping off heads. Look at Grand Theft Auto its a good exsampel of this.



    I agree. The mature rating, extreme gore and sexist lore will make AoC's community the worst game community of all time. It's the kind of thing that makes mature people go, "Uh, is this really necessary in a game?" and teenagers to go, "ZOMG I HEAD CHOPPED THAT WHORE!!1ONE GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES YOU STUPID BITCH!!ELEVEN /grabcrotch /dryhump"

    Sad but true.

    I'd hate to be the CMs for AoC.


    Well, I think AoC is trying to go for more roleplay so people can get into their characters rather than pushing the bounds of what is acceptable in a game, in regards to the necessity of gore/sex. I don't feel they are trying for a shock value stunt. However, I do agree this will be like a magnet for pervs and kids. MMOs are already a magnet for the immature.
  • DabbleDabble Member Posts: 1,043

    Sheesh..

    You are all a bunch of negative nellies...

    How about we first worry about the game being REALLY good first?

    And btw, if we all agree we don't like immature behaviour, and we all play the game, then we can all play together and avoid the L33t kids

  • brostynbrostyn Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,092



    Originally posted by Dabble

    Sheesh..
    You are all a bunch of negative nellies...

    How about we first worry about the game being REALLY good first?
    And btw, if we all agree we don't like immature behaviour, and we all play the game, then we can all play together and avoid the L33t kids


    Good point. After DDO's huge letdown I really just don't know what to think about this genre anymore. Beginning to wonder if someone can get it right, or will they all be 2nd rate EQ clones.
  • OldManFunkOldManFunk Member Posts: 894
    WoW's community makes WoW much less enjoyable. If AoC has a bad community then the game won't be fun to play no matter how great any of the features are.

    Besides, AoC devs said there will be EQ style raiding for rare epics. EQ clones with bad communities for the loss.


  • rmazinrmazin Member UncommonPosts: 10

    One thing is has going for it is that not many kids are privy to Conan and his world. 

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