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lineage2, EQ2, or WoW?
vegehan
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Hey everyone I was just wondering what new "big" mmo you guys were planning on playing. I was really looking forward to EQ2 or maybe even WoW but now that i have looked into it i think im going to be going with lineage 2, i like the looks of it and i love PVP, so what do u guys think?
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"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather
"Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek
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WoW interests me most if only because I want to see what Blizzard will do in the MMOG marketspace...it's a new thing for them. I will very likely buy this game on release, barring some unforseen catastrophe.
EQ2 is mildly interesting to me if only because I spent so much time in EQ that I'd like to see what they'll do. I doubt I'll buy this game on release.
Lineage2 doesn't interest me in the slightest.
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EQ2
if u want a new generation of graphics and gameplay
but if you like old type games that have suckky graphics and gameplay, then get the other two
http://www.facebook.com/murtb
Murt have you even PLAYED Lineage 2 MUAHHAHA...
Lineage 2 has the best graphics out there hands down...
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The screenshots speak for themselves, but how's the game play on Lin2 compared to most games out there and have you noticed many bugs?
"Put your foot where your mouth is." - Wisdom from my grandfather
"Paper or plastic? ... because I'm afraid I'll have to suffocate you unless you put this bag on your head..." - Ethnitrek
AC1: Wierding from Harvestgain
Nemo sine vitio est
Nemo sine vitio est
so far i've noticed no bugs exept for the occasional (and im talking once a day if that) ones caused by my uber crap fx card...
the gameplay at this point is hard to say because its uber early beta and supposedly after the 1st 2 big updates (which Korea has already) the gameplay goes uber nice (with other things like double size world and stuff)
in the early beta version there's no dragons or sieging yet so its tough to say what the game is like without the big ticket stuff...
so far its treating us pretty good though
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Have any of you played the beta? I mean, i played the Korean one, and to be totally honest, i hated it.
I didn't play for more then like an hour, but i didnt like the view, i didnt like how ppl ran, it didnt have much customization, and everyone ran around like they had back pains!
One thing i did like was the spell animations, although i only saw one
All in all, i didnt like the game, not much customization, but im sure some of you will justl ove it
EQ2 will be my path in the life of MMORPGs.
-Farseen-
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- Farseen
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WoW is the game that has caught my eye for now. Lineage 2 is fun as well but the leveling slowing down so much at later levels would most likely make me lose interest. As for EQ2, I honestly think the characters look horrible. They're so bubbly and ugly. GAH. Go WoW! =D
As far as graphics, music goes Lineage 2 got my vote and also for high-end gameplay contents such as Clan siege warfare with robots, dragons, and post-level cap gameplay if they keep up with what they've told they are going to do. Oh also I love the multi-cultural fan community aspect of the game, the game itself support already 3 asians languages as well as English or any other language based on alphabetical input. This game's support fan span over french, russian, deutch as well at least that was my impression so far.
However, since Lineage 2 is still based on threadmill just as WoW, EQ2 does, I would rather wanna see something other than mindless leveling in the future.
If Lineage 2's post-level cap play doesn't feature that I would most probably spend more time on game like Guild Wars in the future.
But since Guild Wars will be released much later than Lineage 2, I would probably stick to this game for while.
Have any of you played the beta? I mean, i played the Korean one, and to be totally honest, i hated it.
I didn't play for more then like an hour, but i didnt like the view, i didnt like how ppl ran, it didnt have much customization, and everyone ran around like they had back pains!
Very true. The main probem I am currently having with Lineage 2, after playing several chars, is the tremendous level grind.
Im going to get Lineage2 and play that, and once WoW comes out im going to try it, if its not as fun as lineage, then im going to drop WoW and continue Lineage. EQ2 is out of the question though. Graffics look good, but if the gameplay is like everquest one, it will get boring as soon as you hit your highest level. Lineage has lots of PvP, i mean, you can capture castles, i already am in a nice guild as well, and just downloading the japanese beta as we speak. Ill tell you how it is.
My 2 Adena,
-Hellscream
You fools dare get in my way? You'll be slaughtered like the rest!
The only characters that run the way you mentioned (the ones that look like they get serious back pains while running) would be the dark elves. Since you didn't specifiy that, I'll assume you didn't play many other classes, and have very limited experience with the game. So please, don't judge a game by it's first few levels. Lineage II, like Lineage I, revolves completely on the end-game results. Sieging, dragon hunts, etc. And to bring it back to the character running animations, it's the way dark elves run. They utilize the traditional sprint of the ninja, who run to be stealthly and to keep a large field of vision.
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"Io rido, e rider mio non passa dentro;
Io ardo, e l'arsion mia non par di fore."
-Machiavelli
Anime ninja, maybe. Have you ever tried running like that? Go outside and run forward as fast as you can while bending your body forward at an 80+ degree angle. See how fast you land on your face. And as for the keeping a large field of vision, I noticed that when they run, they look directly at the ground.
You're absolutely right though, only the Night Elves run that way. However, that still does not excuse the other shortcomings of that game. Lack of character customization, unresponsive controls, boring combat, constant and tedious leveling, boring and repetitive quests. Not to mention that only dwarves can craft items. How do the other races get their weapons then?
As for the Lineage 2 revolving completely around end-game results, that will be it's biggest downfall. You don't really expect people to pay just to start having fun in 2 months, do you? A game needs to be fun as soon as you start, not after 2 months of playing.
Ok...
I'm not trying to bash anyone here. It's not in my best interest to bash anyone who has different taste than I do.
But you have to know, it's been said many time, Lineage 2 is geared towards high-end gameplay aspect, more specifically, collective large scale battle, territorial contest dispute, etc. The dev said themselves that Lineage 2 is designed to reward the time spent on the game. It's not an accident that the game somehow came to this end. It is a choice they've made to suit the need most hardcore fans who happened to find themselves more comfortable being within collective that they can identify themselves with rather than going solo.
I have to tell you Lineage 2 is based on Tolkkien theme although it is not a LOTR. They portray European style of architecture and music, etc. But as far as my impression goes Gameplay, the collective grouping, hardcore form of competitive PvP are very Asian.
This is clear contrast from games like City Of Heroes and the likes.
And the developers know this nuance. So Lineage 2 devs are rather playing safe by making a game that leaves many of these features intact in fear of not to alienate its local fan but also to gather new fan base.
I played lineage 2 open beta and I had to stop at level 41 but I have to say the game rocked. First 20 level was pretty repetitive, but as soon as I got hooked to a clan of 12 men/girls and started to play politics the game just took off. PKing was very real.
I even killed my own brother's avatar because he didn't obey my order. He died 5 times, as result 2 level down, trying to save me from deep ocean water bug. He jumped in the ocean trying to pass to me town portal scroll and never successfully found me. However the bond that I formed with my brother fighting the same group of "camp-hunting" griefers or a**h*les was more than thrilling.
For one, I don't like peace promoting type of gaming with social chat-room. If you want peace go play alone. We all know what peace is. We all like peace but not in competing game.
What is MMORPG your sister's soap opera?
Anime ninja, maybe. Have you ever tried running like that? Go outside and run forward as fast as you can while bending your body forward at an 80+ degree angle. See how fast you land on your face. And as for the keeping a large field of vision, I noticed that when they run, they look directly at the ground.
You're absolutely right though, only the Night Elves run that way. However, that still does not excuse the other shortcomings of that game. Lack of character customization, unresponsive controls, boring combat, constant and tedious leveling, boring and repetitive quests. Not to mention that only dwarves can craft items. How do the other races get their weapons then?
As for the Lineage 2 revolving completely around end-game results, that will be it's biggest downfall. You don't really expect people to pay just to start having fun in 2 months, do you? A game needs to be fun as soon as you start, not after 2 months of playing.
okay i have a couple problems with what your saying about Lineage 2 here... for starters i can already tell you didnt play the game at all and if you did it was only for a VERY short time...
here are the things i have problems with...
you say "there's no excuse for the lack of character customization" which there actually is... the game is based around large scale battles involving hundreds if not thousands of players at a time... already as is, its hard enough trying to maintain a descent frame-rate with the 2-3 faces and 6 or so hair styles per class/race... everytime i new mesh of any kind comes on screen your computer needs to find it, load it up and store it in RAM... imagine NC did add 2-3 times more customization options... that would mean 2-3 times less framerate already... if i lose 1 more FPS just because you wanna show off your purple mohawk im gonna kick some ass...
you also say that the controlls are unresponsive... now this is where i have one of the biggest problems and start to doubt you even playing the game... the game is 99% mouse driven (with keyboard controlls for those former DAoC'ers) and the ease of controll is on of the main things L2 is known for... the controlls are easy to use and very responsive
the boring combat i can kind of see where you're coming from, not in the sense that i agree with you, but that you might have played a different game with slightly more detailed combat... the combat in this game unlike others isnt meant to be a click fest... rather then having a "person who clicks the fastest and strafes the most wins" type of system, they use a typical "engage in combat and use skills as needed" system... this makes the combat system alot easier for 1st time players and rewards level instead of "twitch"
heres one that really bugs me... you say "Not to mention that only dwarves can craft items. How do the other races get their weapons then?"... FROM THE DWARF's!!!... Humans, Orcs, Elves and Dark Elves are meant for combat... Dwarf's are meant for trading... of course Dwarf's can be very well in combat too but they usually cant compare due to lack of combat skills... if you want to make items/money you make a dwarf... if every other class in the game could make items, what the hell would be the point of making a dwarf?!... are you actually doing your homework here or just looking for reasons to flame L2?
oh and the last part where you say "As for the Lineage 2 revolving completely around end-game results, that will be it's biggest downfall. You don't really expect people to pay just to start having fun in 2 months, do you? A game needs to be fun as soon as you start, not after 2 months of playing" go tell that to the millions of Koreans who play Lineage/Lineage 2... just in case you didnt notice theres ALOT of people who play games longer then 2 months... maybe the people you're refering to are Beta Hoppers but the average MMORPG'er usually plays longer then 2 months... and this is just the game for them
anyways i wouldnt have to do all this if you would just play or at least read a bit about the game you're flaming...
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Higs, thats exactly what im trying to say,
thank you. Only thing i dont like about the game is the mouse run walking, but.. you can configure it to a keyboard control, its kinda klunky, but i think it will be fixed up in no time.
-Hellscream
EDIT: I also agree with you peeler
You fools dare get in my way? You'll be slaughtered like the rest!
EQ2 is looking the best to me, but the other 2 look great as well. Im looking forward to seeing what Blizzard will throw at us. I think that the game that sigil entertainment is developing will blow them all away. They have the best people who have worked on all the big mmorpgs and are backed buy microsoft so they got great talent and funding
so it will be intersting
heartless once again almost everything i read in your post is incorrect... im not going to make a huge post about it again but just know that practically everything you said was ill-informed or incorrect... for instance the Dwarves are not at war with the rest of the races in fact them and the orcs are on the fence, and arent at war with anybody...
also it doesnt matter how much Ram you have, more customization means more lag... im using a crap load of ram (along with many other) and sitting in an uber crowded town still lags...
its no use argueing because you're not supplying anything solid... all im seeing from you is some lame attempt to put down Lineage 2... why? i dunno, maybe you got PK'd one too many times or something
people flame Lin2 and its all good but as long as they know what their talking about =P, when you go on about a bunch of crap that makes no sense you gotta kinda expect somebody to step in and clear it up
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