Originally posted by tvalentine Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by tvalentine Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik Sony Music put rootkits on PCs when you inserted certain music CD's in your computer. Sony Online Entertainment hasn't put rootkits on computers with any of their games. Blizzard does something simillar with WoW, not sure it's called a rootkit or know, but it checks to see if you have anything on your computer that could potentially allow you to exploit in the game. That's what they say anyway :P
The Sony rootkit bypassed Blizzard's anti cheat spyware.
Blizzard's anti cheat program isn't a rootkit. However I classify it as spyware, which is one reason why I don't play WoW, I don't like their intrusion into my PC in that way. However, on the plus side, people can't get away with speed hacking there like they do with impunity on SWG.
ive got a few friends in my guild who i know have used the speed hack, about 4 people to be exact, and only 1 got their account perma banned
In SWG, I've reported people for speed hacking (how else can a non Jedi outrun a force running Jedi?!) double profession exploiting (ie: a medic that cloaked), and for cooldown bypassing on cyber arms (being able to continually apply the effect). Action taken by the CSRs? None.
Players are better at spotting this stuff than any program is, because players know the game better than the people who make/run it. But it takes customer service that gives a shit for it to work.
ok youve solved the bugs/hackers problem, now what about the playing favorites part? the fact that players are the admins brings up this problem.
Admins who play favorites will find their community will vanish.
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Originally posted by Harry-Sack Here are a couple ideas: 1) Avoid playing the emu and this will not be an issue. 2) STFU Thank you, please drive thru. ------------>
great way to get more players on the EMU
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Originally posted by Obraik The wonders of Emus and people who think they know how to run an MMO
Whatever you do, on the other hand please do not say SOE did well with SWG... or that these guys could do worse....
So far I think the entire gaming community would argue with you or more or less think even less of you.
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Gene is me.... ok honestly knowing hackers, and server runners/admins have access to our accounts is really disturbing ..... i mean imagine being in a PVP battle, and all of a sudden some guy comes up with a CDEF pistol and does 1000000 dmg to you? i mean is it really worth the time and effort to build up your character, to get him hacked or have other players being hacked?
Probably should edit your post before the Mods get online.
Originally posted by tvalentine Originally posted by Harry-Sack
Here are a couple ideas: 1) Avoid playing the emu and this will not be an issue. 2) STFU Thank you, please drive thru. ------------>
great way to get more players on the EMU
If your refering to yourself being put off playing on a EMU server when they eventually come up be it in 6 months to 18 months time, I think you've already have decided against it. That the posts you are making are just to get people who are waiting for the EMU server rattled so they respond to your posts in some way feeding your need for attention.
Also I doubt this will have an effect on people who have already decided on playing the EMU, if there ends up being 5 or 6 decent servers, word of mouth can play wonders and players will come. This is exactly why the NGE has such a small player base negative word of mouth advertising coupled with numerous negative press reports and bad reviews even though it was marketed quite heavily during the time of the 3rd film.
So basically when the EMU is at such an early stage, we can't really say anything until something more solid is there for people to experience and then make a judgement. We can however look at other games which have succesfully been run using emulators, such as UO, some WOW servers etc.
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Originally posted by Fignar Originally posted by tvalentine Originally posted by Harry-Sack
Here are a couple ideas: 1) Avoid playing the emu and this will not be an issue. 2) STFU Thank you, please drive thru. ------------>
great way to get more players on the EMU
If your refering to yourself being put off playing on a EMU server when they eventually come up be it in 6 months to 18 months time, I think you've already have decided against it. That the posts you are making are just to get people who are waiting for the EMU server rattled so they respond to your posts in some way feeding your need for attention.
Also I doubt this will have an effect on people who have already decided on playing the EMU, if there ends up being 5 or 6 decent servers, word of mouth can play wonders and players will come. This is exactly why the NGE has such a small player base negative word of mouth advertising coupled with numberous negative press reports and bad reviews even though it was marketed quite heavily during the time of the 3rd film. If your refering to yourself being put off playing on a EMU server when they eventually come up be it in 6 months to 18 months time, I think you've already have decided against it. That the posts you are making are just to get people who are waiting for the EMU server rattled so they respond to your posts in some way feeding your need for attention.
Also I doubt this will have an effect on people who have already decided on playing the EMU, if there ends up being 5 or 6 decent servers, word of mouth can play wonders and players will come. This is exactly why the NGE has such a small player base negative word of mouth advertising coupled with numberous negative press reports and bad reviews even though it was marketed quite heavily during the time of the 3rd film.
i was also excited about the SWGEMU, but when you hear that people u play with on the server can get onto your account and do what SOE did (on a much smaller scale) but to only yr char (as in destroy all yr stuff and /unlearn my skills) im a lil scared to hear this. I mean here the reason i posted on this site was to get some assurance, hell here you go.
SWGEMU IS NOT BAD, ITS A GREAT IDEA, AND I SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO TRY AND MAKE A PRECU SWG
but people need to know that their character is vulnerable to the server administrators and ect, and this will probably be a problem for maybe the first month, then after that and the last 5-6 servers are left it should be over with. Hell im even going to play SWGEMU on a friends server, hes got 100 of his guildies comin over to it, so it should turn out great.
And on the note of harry-sack preventing players from playin ... UHHHH do you really want to play with an asshat like him? but then again we did in PRE-CU and we even had some Running the game.
i was also excited about the SWGEMU, but when you hear that people u play with on the server can get onto your account and do what SOE did (on a much smaller scale) but to only yr char (as in destroy all yr stuff and /unlearn my skills) im a lil scared to hear this. I mean here the reason i posted on this site was to get some assurance, hell here you go.
SWGEMU IS NOT BAD, ITS A GREAT IDEA, AND I SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO TRY AND MAKE A PRECU SWG
but people need to know that their character is vulnerable to the server administrators and ect, and this will probably be a problem for maybe the first month, then after that and the last 5-6 servers are left it should be over with. Hell im even going to play SWGEMU on a friends server, hes got 100 of his guildies comin over to it, so it should turn out great.
And on the note of harry-sack preventing players from playin ... UHHHH do you really want to play with an asshat like him? but then again we did in PRE-CU and we even had some Running the game.
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Any way yes of course your character is at the mercy of server admins, the same can be said that your character is at the mercy of the CSR's /SOE on the official servers, all it depends on is if the people that have been put in charge of the day to day running of servers arn't immature and use their heads when taking on the responsibilities.
Just relax, its still a fair way off yet and many things can happen between now and when its complete.
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Originally posted by milton1970 I had my main toon on an SWG server. He had a doc tkm template, a perfect crafting station, a 12 point suit, bags of goodies and nice resources, some super low med use meds that I especially crafted for guildmates. I had just run off a hundred or so buffpacks for pvp , hunting and general purpose to help out players (never was a buffbot) some really nice vk's as well as all the assorted loot I'd spent 2 years accumulating, not to mention my dancer/musician alt who had just finished all his grinding.
Then one day I logged on and it was all totally fucking worthless. Nothing is safe from deletion or change, I'd trust an emu server over $OE any day given their current record.
hope this answers your question.
That, and the countless others in the same position are the perfect response to your emu question, Mr OP.
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Originally posted by tvalentine Originally posted by Wildcat84 Originally posted by Obraik Sony Music put rootkits on PCs when you inserted certain music CD's in your computer. Sony Online Entertainment hasn't put rootkits on computers with any of their games. Blizzard does something simillar with WoW, not sure it's called a rootkit or know, but it checks to see if you have anything on your computer that could potentially allow you to exploit in the game. That's what they say anyway :P
The Sony rootkit bypassed Blizzard's anti cheat spyware.
Blizzard's anti cheat program isn't a rootkit. However I classify it as spyware, which is one reason why I don't play WoW, I don't like their intrusion into my PC in that way. However, on the plus side, people can't get away with speed hacking there like they do with impunity on SWG.
ive got a few friends in my guild who i know have used the speed hack, about 4 people to be exact, and only 1 got their account perma banned
To associate with those that are dishonest and to call them 'friend' is to be as guilty as them. People like you and because people are prone to having favorites is why I won't play on EMU. Not to mention it is illegal, no matter how you slice it. People condemn SOE for unethical business practices, but I see the EMU as just as unethical as what SOE did, except what SOE did is legal.
All I have to say is that you all participating in EMU should be ashamed of yourselves, just like those who hack or know those that hack ought to be. You either spend your life doing what is right and defending it or you do what is wrong and say nothing about it. You choose which you fall under. Don't sink to the level you have been condemning all this time.
Go ahead and flame me now. I already know that you all will choose what is wrong over what is right. You're no better than SOE.
Admins who play favorites will find their community will vanish.
People won't put up with that.
You really believe that? Look at how many people including those playing and running the EMU servers put up with years of crap from SOE. People will put up with it, considering they catch them in the act in the first place. If the Admin is the one cheating or playing favorites, who will you report it to, to have it investigated?
To associate with those that are dishonest and to call them 'friend' is to be as guilty as them. People like you and because people are prone to having favorites is why I won't play on EMU. Not to mention it is illegal, no matter how you slice it. People condemn SOE for unethical business practices, but I see the EMU as just as unethical as what SOE did, except what SOE did is legal. All I have to say is that you all participating in EMU should be ashamed of yourselves, just like those who hack or know those that hack ought to be. You either spend your life doing what is right and defending it or you do what is wrong and say nothing about it. You choose which you fall under. Don't sink to the level you have been condemning all this time. Go ahead and flame me now. I already know that you all will choose what is wrong over what is right. You're no better than SOE.
Its legal because of the some obscure statements in their EULA, TOS, or on the box, and the SWGEMU team have so far used exactly the same premise to produce something which SOE took away along with 2 1/2 years of subscriptions. So you can see clearly which are worse of the two; people who sell you one thing watch you pay for it while gladly taking your money, lie for 2 1/2 years making x amount of promises, then to turn around and go we don't care if you paid us for x amount of time we want new blood and we don't care. Or are the people who are makng the EMU who are doing it in their spare time, making zero profit to give something that x amount of people were conned out of, while using a similar legal loop hole.
They may be both ethically wrong but when it comes down to it I know which one I support.
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SOE is evil, vile and corrupt. Even if they offered classic servers I would never go back. They can't be trusted.
Emulation project guys might have their heads in their butts (all their ego) but my only problem with these guys (besides being thieves) is that even if they do RE a server for pre-cu, there were lots of bugs and problems with pre-cu and I do not trust that they will work them out.
Remember don't expect too much from the pre-cu emulators, they haven't got a 40 man dev team etc, if your looking for a pre-cu with 0 bugs that will never happen, just like any MMO out there is not 100% big free but if your looking for a pre-cu game where you can live with some bugs but still enjoy what you did during SOE's go at it, then it may be worth taking a look.
They also arn't thieves they haven't stolen anything, the server code they made themselves but thats another kettle of fish which i won't go into.
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Originally posted by blondeh I asked some people in my Guild on Eclipse last night "Will you play on an EMU server with me" They said "nah cause what if one day we log in and all the time we spent on a toon is gone and stuff deleted or worthless" I replied and SOE have never done this to you already, and you spent money on the game? They didnt have an answer.
You have a fair point about this. Honestly though in my nearly 3 years of playing the game that only happened twice, the CU and the NGE. I would fear that it would happen daily or weekly on an illegal emulation server. And I am not talking about immature server admins, I am just talking about problems that they do not have the experience to work out.
Originally posted by Harry-Sack Just to clarify, I am not promoting the EMU. Not even sure if I would play it tbh. My rude post was a direct reaction to your multiple trolling threads on a topic that we all know at this point should not be discussed on this forum.
lets break SWGEMU down now ....... This, is the SWG forums ...... SWGEMU even if its not the original its the same game just a different version (i think i said that right, sry havent slept.)
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Originally posted by tvalentine Originally posted by Harry-Sack Just to clarify, I am not promoting the EMU. Not even sure if I would play it tbh. My rude post was a direct reaction to your multiple trolling threads on a topic that we all know at this point should not be discussed on this forum.
lets break SWGEMU down now ....... This, is the SWG forums ...... SWGEMU even if its not the original its the same game just a different version (i think i said that right, sry havent slept.)
I find it really interesting that a couple of threads whose titles, at least, seem to indicate they are bashing the that-which-must-not-be-named, have been left up now for quite some time, even though they contain clickable links, whereas those that seem positive toward you-know-what, get deleted almost instantly.
I think the mods need to excercise some consistency here. If that-which-must-not-be-named is taboo for all the reasons they say (and I'm perfectly on board with that -- it's a legally questionable project at best), then it should be taboo period... not taboo when you say good things about it, but perfectly fine to talk about negatively.
WHY WONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, THE POST IS FOR WARNING......
WARNINGWARNINGWARNINGWARNINGWARNINGWARNING WILL ROBINSON
I mean i look at the SWGE** site and forums and see threads getting deleted for no good reason, and i have found out that the admins can screw around with your characters, YES I KNOW SOE ADMINS COULD TO but even still they are part of a big organization, and i have never heard of SOE admins logging onto accounts deleting everything, but i mean like i said, i just found out today and thought i might tell everyone else, i mean if you alrdy knew THATS FINE, its for people who DID NOT know.
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The Sony rootkit bypassed Blizzard's anti cheat spyware.
Blizzard's anti cheat program isn't a rootkit. However I classify it as spyware, which is one reason why I don't play WoW, I don't like their intrusion into my PC in that way. However, on the plus side, people can't get away with speed hacking there like they do with impunity on SWG.
ive got a few friends in my guild who i know have used the speed hack, about 4 people to be exact, and only 1 got their account perma banned
In SWG, I've reported people for speed hacking (how else can a non Jedi outrun a force running Jedi?!) double profession exploiting (ie: a medic that cloaked), and for cooldown bypassing on cyber arms (being able to continually apply the effect). Action taken by the CSRs? None.
Players are better at spotting this stuff than any program is, because players know the game better than the people who make/run it. But it takes customer service that gives a shit for it to work.
ok youve solved the bugs/hackers problem, now what about the playing favorites part? the fact that players are the admins brings up this problem.
Admins who play favorites will find their community will vanish.
People won't put up with that.
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Here are a couple ideas:
1) Avoid playing the emu and this will not be an issue.
2) STFU
Thank you, please drive thru. ------------>
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Whatever you do, on the other hand please do not say SOE did well with SWG... or that these guys could do worse....
So far I think the entire gaming community would argue with you or more or less think even less of you.
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Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
lol did i say SOE did a good job with SWG?
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If your refering to yourself being put off playing on a EMU server when they eventually come up be it in 6 months to 18 months time, I think you've already have decided against it. That the posts you are making are just to get people who are waiting for the EMU server rattled so they respond to your posts in some way feeding your need for attention.
Also I doubt this will have an effect on people who have already decided on playing the EMU, if there ends up being 5 or 6 decent servers, word of mouth can play wonders and players will come. This is exactly why the NGE has such a small player base negative word of mouth advertising coupled with numerous negative press reports and bad reviews even though it was marketed quite heavily during the time of the 3rd film.
So basically when the EMU is at such an early stage, we can't really say anything until something more solid is there for people to experience and then make a judgement. We can however look at other games which have succesfully been run using emulators, such as UO, some WOW servers etc.
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If your refering to yourself being put off playing on a EMU server when they eventually come up be it in 6 months to 18 months time, I think you've already have decided against it. That the posts you are making are just to get people who are waiting for the EMU server rattled so they respond to your posts in some way feeding your need for attention.
Also I doubt this will have an effect on people who have already decided on playing the EMU, if there ends up being 5 or 6 decent servers, word of mouth can play wonders and players will come. This is exactly why the NGE has such a small player base negative word of mouth advertising coupled with numberous negative press reports and bad reviews even though it was marketed quite heavily during the time of the 3rd film.
If your refering to yourself being put off playing on a EMU server when they eventually come up be it in 6 months to 18 months time, I think you've already have decided against it. That the posts you are making are just to get people who are waiting for the EMU server rattled so they respond to your posts in some way feeding your need for attention.
Also I doubt this will have an effect on people who have already decided on playing the EMU, if there ends up being 5 or 6 decent servers, word of mouth can play wonders and players will come. This is exactly why the NGE has such a small player base negative word of mouth advertising coupled with numberous negative press reports and bad reviews even though it was marketed quite heavily during the time of the 3rd film.
i was also excited about the SWGEMU, but when you hear that people u play with on the server can get onto your account and do what SOE did (on a much smaller scale) but to only yr char (as in destroy all yr stuff and /unlearn my skills) im a lil scared to hear this. I mean here the reason i posted on this site was to get some assurance, hell here you go.
SWGEMU IS NOT BAD, ITS A GREAT IDEA, AND I SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO TRY AND MAKE A PRECU SWG
but people need to know that their character is vulnerable to the server administrators and ect, and this will probably be a problem for maybe the first month, then after that and the last 5-6 servers are left it should be over with. Hell im even going to play SWGEMU on a friends server, hes got 100 of his guildies comin over to it, so it should turn out great.
And on the note of harry-sack preventing players from playin ... UHHHH do you really want to play with an asshat like him? but then again we did in PRE-CU and we even had some Running the game.
i was also excited about the SWGEMU, but when you hear that people u play with on the server can get onto your account and do what SOE did (on a much smaller scale) but to only yr char (as in destroy all yr stuff and /unlearn my skills) im a lil scared to hear this. I mean here the reason i posted on this site was to get some assurance, hell here you go.
SWGEMU IS NOT BAD, ITS A GREAT IDEA, AND I SUPPORT THE EFFORT TO TRY AND MAKE A PRECU SWG
but people need to know that their character is vulnerable to the server administrators and ect, and this will probably be a problem for maybe the first month, then after that and the last 5-6 servers are left it should be over with. Hell im even going to play SWGEMU on a friends server, hes got 100 of his guildies comin over to it, so it should turn out great.
And on the note of harry-sack preventing players from playin ... UHHHH do you really want to play with an asshat like him? but then again we did in PRE-CU and we even had some Running the game.
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Any way yes of course your character is at the mercy of server admins, the same can be said that your character is at the mercy of the CSR's /SOE on the official servers, all it depends on is if the people that have been put in charge of the day to day running of servers arn't immature and use their heads when taking on the responsibilities.
Just relax, its still a fair way off yet and many things can happen between now and when its complete.
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Just to clarify, I am not promoting the EMU. Not even sure if I would play it tbh.
My rude post was a direct reaction to your multiple trolling threads on a topic that we all know at this point should not be discussed on this forum.
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The Sony rootkit bypassed Blizzard's anti cheat spyware.
Blizzard's anti cheat program isn't a rootkit. However I classify it as spyware, which is one reason why I don't play WoW, I don't like their intrusion into my PC in that way. However, on the plus side, people can't get away with speed hacking there like they do with impunity on SWG.
ive got a few friends in my guild who i know have used the speed hack, about 4 people to be exact, and only 1 got their account perma banned
To associate with those that are dishonest and to call them 'friend' is to be as guilty as them. People like you and because people are prone to having favorites is why I won't play on EMU. Not to mention it is illegal, no matter how you slice it. People condemn SOE for unethical business practices, but I see the EMU as just as unethical as what SOE did, except what SOE did is legal.
All I have to say is that you all participating in EMU should be ashamed of yourselves, just like those who hack or know those that hack ought to be. You either spend your life doing what is right and defending it or you do what is wrong and say nothing about it. You choose which you fall under. Don't sink to the level you have been condemning all this time.
Go ahead and flame me now. I already know that you all will choose what is wrong over what is right. You're no better than SOE.
People won't put up with that.
You really believe that? Look at how many people including those playing and running the EMU servers put up with years of crap from SOE. People will put up with it, considering they catch them in the act in the first place. If the Admin is the one cheating or playing favorites, who will you report it to, to have it investigated?
Its legal because of the some obscure statements in their EULA, TOS, or on the box, and the SWGEMU team have so far used exactly the same premise to produce something which SOE took away along with 2 1/2 years of subscriptions. So you can see clearly which are worse of the two; people who sell you one thing watch you pay for it while gladly taking your money, lie for 2 1/2 years making x amount of promises, then to turn around and go we don't care if you paid us for x amount of time we want new blood and we don't care. Or are the people who are makng the EMU who are doing it in their spare time, making zero profit to give something that x amount of people were conned out of, while using a similar legal loop hole.
They may be both ethically wrong but when it comes down to it I know which one I support.
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SOE is evil, vile and corrupt. Even if they offered classic servers I would never go back. They can't be trusted.
Emulation project guys might have their heads in their butts (all their ego) but my only problem with these guys (besides being thieves) is that even if they do RE a server for pre-cu, there were lots of bugs and problems with pre-cu and I do not trust that they will work them out.
I asked some people in my Guild on Eclipse last night
"Will you play on an EMU server with me"
They said
"nah cause what if one day we log in and all the time we spent on a toon is gone and stuff deleted or worthless"
I replied and SOE have never done this to you already, and you spent money on the game?
They didnt have an answer.
They also arn't thieves they haven't stolen anything, the server code they made themselves but thats another kettle of fish which i won't go into.
Water cooled Intel Corei7 920 D0 Stepping OC'd 4.3GHz - 6GB Corsair Dominator GT RAM 2000Mhz - ASUS RAGE II EXTREME X58 Mobo - 2x HD 5870 in Crossfire X, OC'd 0.9Ghz core 1.3Ghz RAM - Dell 2407WFP Flat Panel LCD 24" 1920x1200
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -
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John Smedley beat up my grandmother.
I find it really interesting that a couple of threads whose titles, at least, seem to indicate they are bashing the that-which-must-not-be-named, have been left up now for quite some time, even though they contain clickable links, whereas those that seem positive toward you-know-what, get deleted almost instantly.
I think the mods need to excercise some consistency here. If that-which-must-not-be-named is taboo for all the reasons they say (and I'm perfectly on board with that -- it's a legally questionable project at best), then it should be taboo period... not taboo when you say good things about it, but perfectly fine to talk about negatively.
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WHY WONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, THE POST IS FOR WARNING......
WARNINGWARNINGWARNINGWARNINGWARNINGWARNING WILL ROBINSON
I mean i look at the SWGE** site and forums and see threads getting deleted for no good reason, and i have found out that the admins can screw around with your characters, YES I KNOW SOE ADMINS COULD TO but even still they are part of a big organization, and i have never heard of SOE admins logging onto accounts deleting everything, but i mean like i said, i just found out today and thought i might tell everyone else, i mean if you alrdy knew THATS FINE, its for people who DID NOT know.
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
KUF2's Official Website - http://www.kufii.com/ENG/ -