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Another NGE?

MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489

Remember this?


Members of the Jedi Community and all SWG players.

I know this post may get flamed, but it is only expected. There have been many rumors around the forums, but my source is a bit more than a rumor. I have been a member of the Jedi Community for a long while, and a member of SWG since the beginning. What I am about to disclose to you is top secret SOE stuff so to speak.

I have a friend whose uncle is a SOE employee. (I would give his name here, but I was advised not to because I do not wish to jepordize that individuals job. Anyways, I told my friend to ask his Uncle "What is going on with jedi recently, and why all the nerfing and changes?" He did, indeed ask him, and the response was shocking. I cancelled my account immediately after hearing this. I am not advising you to do this, but since the SWG Community Relations, and Devs will not answer all of these issues, I felt obligated to inform the community of my disturbing findings.
Here we go........

1.- Jedi are being phased into a regular profession, that will be selectable from the beginning of the game. This is the reason so many nerfs appear to be hitting jedi recently. They are attempting to slowly transition jedi into a normal class. They have not and will not inform the community about this, because it will enrage the vets. But they are hoping to keep everyone quiet while they work on this. They are also counting on the fact that more and more players will be influenced to buy the game, if jedi are immediately selectable. The bottom line is their numbers show that more players have quit the game because they were lazy and didnt want to work for jedi, as opposed to players who complain about jedi, but will not quit. They are hoping that subscription rates will soar if Jedi are immediately selectable, because jedi is the reason most players buy this game. This is also the reason why pearls/ FRS have been removed, so that vets will slowly become accustomed to being converted, and hopefully stay with the game.

2.- All melee classes are being removed. The bottom line is that SOE feels that melee professions do not appear in the movies, and they will remove them from the game. The current status of Ranged professions being dominate is all in their grand scheme of things. They are hoping that most melee players will switch their templates to Ranged now, so that when they eliminate all melee, there wont be enough of them left to cause an uproar. Therfore everyone in game will be A.- A jedi B.- Ranged C.- Crafter, Entertainer, or other. All remaining melee players will be given a respec period.

3.- All grinding is going to be removed. All leveling will soon be quest based and not grinding. Example: You will need to run to a trainer, get missions from him, he will teach you a skill box, back to step one. They are hoping that this will keep the playerbase more nethralled with the game, and get the quest based system they have always wanted.

Now the reason this may all seem far fetched to you, is because so many people on these forums cry wolf, and start rumors. but I assure you, this is the reason we dont get the responses we are looking for. Alot of people complained about the CU, but once they played it, they became adjusted and despite their complaints they still stayed subscribed. If they announced all this now, it would cause mass mahem and anger, so they will keep it quiet until it goes live, and then we are stuck with a "Like it or leave it" option. And the bottom line is (it has been proven) we will still play it.
Also, cancelled jedi accounts are a given in this, but look at it from the outside, ALOT of new players will also spawn out of this mess, because jedi will be made readily available to them.

I did not get any info on the Jedi vs. BH situation, or other important issues, but they did make it clear that there will be no more alpha classes in this game. Also do not shoot the OP, or myself. He is a messenger for me (since my account was banned) and I am a messenger from another, and I simply feel obligated to inform you all.

So if you flame me, that is fine. I am not a troll nor a rumor starter, and it is your choice alone on what you want to believe. I am simply warning you all that this will come to pass.

Well, this persons Alt Account (the one he used to confim the info above) just posted a warning that another combat system was being developed for SWG that is based on faster Pre-CU combat, and the Old Profession system is being revamped. It was deleted in minutes, before I could even read it all. Maybe ths individual decided to cause trouble for no reason, but I have a BAD (or is it giddy) feeling about this. And considering the SWG:Complete box set comes out on the SAME DAY as the NGE, well....


I tried to Clicky it before C/P'ing it, so if anyone out there copied the text, could you let me know? TY...

I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • IsostranIsostran Member Posts: 6
    Thats what I heard also. SOE cant get there shit strait and its beginning to become a stain on humanity.
  • LeelLeel Member Posts: 455

    This is exactly what I had heard.

  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928
    Would be alot easier to just go back and necro old post up here.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Spathotan
    Would be alot easier to just go back and necro old post up here.

    If you have the text from his post that was just deleted, by all means Necro it... or if you saw it and were smarter than me and C/P'ed it...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Spathotan
    Would be alot easier to just go back and necro old post up here.
    If you have the text from his post that was just deleted, by all means Necro it... or if you saw it and were smarter than me and C/P'ed it...


    Ive been banned from the forums, not only that my account died 2 weeks after the NGE went live. What I said was sarcasm, in meaning that this same thing has been said by basically everybody on these forums. All we can do is wait man, its apparent we cant rely on SoE for a damn thing, let alone the truth. So either a solution is gonna just fall down in our laps, or nothing will happen at all.

    "There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
    — Boba Fett

  • LeelLeel Member Posts: 455


    Originally posted by MX13

    Originally posted by Spathotan
    Would be alot easier to just go back and necro old post up here.
    If you have the text from his post that was just deleted, by all means Necro it... or if you saw it and were smarter than me and C/P'ed it...



    This EXACT thing was told to me personally about 3 weeks ago.  I made a post kinda alluding to it.  Thats why I have been so skeptical about all the press releases that have come out as of late,  especially the first one.

    I have been waiting for a post to coroborate it, knowing that others would eventually get the word.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,488
    lol, there have been a lot of rumors, posts aking if we would come back if they brought pre-cu or cu back, fake/real press releases (which now seems less of hoax since the supposed fake one was dated today the same day the supposed real one hit) plus now the guy who leaked the NGE is back saying another revamp is coming and the emu is flying full speed ahead and threatens to pull tons of vets out of their game? Hmmm. This will be interesting to watch.
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  • Wildcat84Wildcat84 Member Posts: 2,304
    It wouldn't surprise me at this point if they did something like that.  Pre-CU combat is of course the overwealming favorite.  I guess they could be looking at bringing back the old professions by introducing them as elite professions in expertise.



  • kairaenekairaene Member Posts: 256
    I can only hope that this is indeed the case.  

  • mindspatmindspat Member Posts: 1,367

    I've heard intresting things.  They can all be chalked up to hearsay and rumors since I have no sources to share. :P

    A major reason for the lack of forward development in the live game is due to the sub development of another "ehancement"!!  

    The current "live" development is focused on Jedi and Bounty Hunter since these 2 professions have the largest percentange of users.

    When the developers said it was "techincally impossible" to produce a dual tool bar for specials the were essentially saying that they refraining based on the business model; produce a working game in a single revamp publish! 

    Proof?  Do you think every single gamer who had SWG installed on their client would have been able to mode the GUI for multiple functioning tool bars if it were "techincally impossible"?  It was.  Many had it....until they altered the client to crash if it detected the presence of a multiple tool bar in publish 30. (?)

    It's sad what they are doing.  Now they are selling ingame items at insane prices.  $30 for a vehilce that has no other usage outside of the pre-existing vehilce other then a different model.

  • War_DancerWar_Dancer Member Posts: 941
    If they are pulling another NGE it appears they learnt nothing about being honest and straightforward with the playerbase from the first one.

  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529
    Think this could be the model from the Stratics site?

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    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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  • LeelLeel Member Posts: 455

    MX13 - do you remember what was said specifically about the prof system?

    I hadn't heard that part. I had heard that a revamp was coming described as Pre-Cu in burst run mode, but when i had heard they still hadn't decided on what profession system they were going to use.  I had heard that they would be discussing it these last two weeks (BTW - I'm sticking to my claim that TH was not on vacation). 

  • LeelLeel Member Posts: 455


    Originally posted by Shayde
    Think this could be the model from the Stratics site?

    Hope not - there was no CH, TK, or BE in that model.
  • War_DancerWar_Dancer Member Posts: 941


    Originally posted by mindspat


    It's sad what they are doing.  Now they are selling ingame items at insane prices.  $30 for a vehilce that has no other usage outside of the pre-existing vehilce other then a different model.


    Smedly has always been very open about wanting to set up a system where players pay for content. What is sad is how many people are likely to pay that much money for so little content as one vehicle.
  • ShaydeShayde Member Posts: 4,529


    Originally posted by Leel

    Originally posted by Shayde
    Think this could be the model from the Stratics site?
    Hope not - there was no CH, TK, or BE in that model.

    I HOPE not too... but they've stated publicly many times that they can't get their heads around "balance" for pets... my guess is they gave the hell up and hope that we are so happy to get a closer approximation to pre-cu we may just give them a pass on it.

    If this isn't all B.S.

    Shayde - SWG (dead)
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    It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled :( - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
    I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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  • LeelLeel Member Posts: 455


    Originally posted by Shayde

    If this isn't all B.S.


    I dont think it is, but if it is - my wife will be sleeping on the couch for a good while.  Ohh wait, who am i kidding,  I will probably just end up staying in our guest room.
  • tjvoodootjvoodoo Member Posts: 293


    Originally posted by War_Dancer
    If they are pulling another NGE it appears they learnt nothing about being honest and straightforward with the playerbase from the Second one.


    Not a dig at you personaly but corrected never the less:

    NGE #2 (CU #3) is inevitable no-one including SOE/LA like the way the NGE #1 is going (when unsure) but i do know the emu is going to take alot of valid customers from SOE when they see the amount of bugs and lack of support they get for there money(why pay for it when you can get it for free).

    Do keep in mind MMO's are a fairly new thing and not even SOE are experts at it - what makes this a real shame is SOE seem to make all the logical mistakes when it comes to SWG (consistency, balance, bugs to name a few).

  • MX13MX13 Member Posts: 2,489


    Originally posted by Leel

    MX13 - do you remember what was said specifically about the prof system?
    I hadn't heard that part. I had heard that a revamp was coming described as Pre-Cu in burst run mode, but when i had heard they still hadn't decided on what profession system they were going to use.  I had heard that they would be discussing it these last two weeks (BTW - I'm sticking to my claim that TH was not on vacation). 



    No, when I got to that part, like a genius, I skimmed and tried to Stickie ASAP to show everyone here. Like an IDIOT I tested the URL.

    AS far as the Stratics thing, I have no idea, but it would be doubtful. The way that was listed seemed off, but who knows, maybe it's the core.

    This surprises me, because I have it from a good source that SWG Classic was under Developement, but I guess they could be calling it that as a Project Name.... SWG Classic = NGE2? I don't know, but man, I KNOW someone C/P'ed it.... please... then again, no one left probably knows who he was...

    I'll start my own SWG... with Black Jack... and Hookers!!!

    In fact, forget the SWG!!!!

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  • chronictokerchronictoker Member Posts: 18
    do you know wat the guy that posted its account name was so you could just email him and get the story.
  • IsostranIsostran Member Posts: 6
    I saw a post on SWG Sony forums that stated the exact thing..and of course it was deleted for "non game discussion" The only thing that gets me is that no-one will know what the hell is going on until November when they release it.
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,488
    How come they didn't post the latest press release on the SWG forums at the same time like GarVa said they always do? Now there could be a 50% chance it's some kind of a smoke screen.
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  • hargravehargrave Member Posts: 329

    Why does this matter? SOE/LA is involved either way i wish people would get this point!! The biggest problem with SWG is SOE/LA there reputation is one of lies and making people pay to be beta testers. This is something people just dont get PRE-CU NGE NGE2 NGE3 and so on are all worthless unless you yank SOE/LA out of the picture. Just sick of all this false hope and bs on here EMU is on the hope. Unless another company releases a star wars MMO.

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    We're sitting in our offices thinking of ways to upset our paying customers. I think were on track to meet that goal.

    John Smedley

  • hargravehargrave Member Posts: 329

    Why does this matter? SOE/LA is involved either way i wish people would get this point!! The biggest problem with SWG is SOE/LA there reputation is one of lies and making people pay to be beta testers. This is something people just dont get PRE-CU NGE NGE2 NGE3 and so on are all worthless unless you yank SOE/LA out of the picture. Just sick of all this false hope and bs on here EMU is on the hope. Unless another company releases a star wars MMO.

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    We're sitting in our offices thinking of ways to upset our paying customers. I think were on track to meet that goal.

    John Smedley

  • ShucklesShuckles Member Posts: 158


    Originally posted by Isostran
    Thats what I heard also. SOE cant get there shit strait and its beginning to become a stain on humanity.

    They have fumbled every MMO ball they have caught.
    This is consistent with my understanding as well.
    They are required to meet certain goals in order to maintain the license for SWG2.
    Which they have already spent, are currently spending, and have planned a large budget to do.

    The whole problem with ALL of it:  SWG reborn, SWG2, SOE and LA:  both companies suck from a player perspective...they do not want to maintain sandboxes, they are too much for both companies.  Especially with an IP such as Star Wars.  What we need is a good Verant, or Mythic, or Bioware, or bla bla bla...how many of those are not owned now.

    Depressing...
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